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- JArrodIsCool, on 10/12/2007, -5/+77Why would Bush listen to this mere "human", when he says God is telling him what to do?
- qqstar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+71CIA#1: How do we tell him not to do it?
CIA#2: Hmmmmm. Maybe we should tell him a story. Use bible talk. Throw in some thees and thous for good measure. We could dress up in Robes! Use some fancy Hollywood style lighting in the briefing.
CIA#1: Naw. Let's just tell it to him straight. He'll listen.
CIA#2: Are you sure? When we tried to warn him about Bin Laden back in 2000 you wouldn't let me wear the Horse Costume and look where it got us.
CIA#1: It just didn't seem right having him hear the intel from a horse's ass.
CIA#2: Well...he listened to Cheney.
CIA#1: Good point.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+73It was a "slam dunk"
- malfourmed, on 10/12/2007, -6/+67If we don't worry about the mistakes of the past, we may be doomed to repeat them. Case in point: Iran.
- db0255, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39like getting into a land war in asia? o wait...we've done that a number times. we're really good learners...
- tpaine, on 10/12/2007, -4/+34@Corvette
Your assumption is that we can't do both when in fact we can. Malformed is right, if we don't learn from these mistakes we will only allow them to happen again. - laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+33***** - I voted against him with the informed majority.
- dracostimpy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29The Bush regime WANTED Iraq to break up so we could take their nationalized oil and divide it up among major American oil companies once Iraq's national sovereignty was ruined. This catastrophe was by design, and it went exactly as the CIA predicted. Nice job, CIA! Much better than Operation Zapata...
- laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25Don't forget that Hussein was going to switch his country's petrodollar influence to euros. He's too dead to do it now, but others might.
- laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25Yah, like you're going to give a CIA chief's son bad grades.
Yale is a finishing school. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Treason. Corruption. Gross negligence of duty. Crimes against humanity. Lies under oath. Taking part in a criminal organization. War crimes. Crimes under international law. Nationwide theft. Money laundering. Genocide?
Anyone keeping a list?
As it stands the Iraqi people are legitimate in waging a war against occupation and killing american occupiers in the bloodiest way possible. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I think most people on Digg voted against him both times..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Yeah, and his grade school teachers told him that eating paint chips would make him stupid.
Nothing new here. Bush is a D student. - dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14"Bush wasn't a "D" student, and in fact got higher grades at Yale than John Kerry...."
Then why did he get dinged by U Texas's law school? He only got into Harvard cause of daddy. - consonance, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Wow, Bush and company didn't consider the ramifications of a full-scale invasion?
At this point, is anyone at all surprised at this emergence of an opinion by another former senior ranking official? Anyone? - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11you are giving this administration too much credit. you are assuming they were merely optimistic. there are many mercenary forces and contractors profiting from this "blunder". which brings them more profit, a short war or a drawn out one?
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Well basically we're having the same exact problems that Russia had before they were forced to leave.. and that war left their economy in the ruins.. what a surprise. Most aspects of the current war could have been easily predicted because it has all happened in the past. History repeating itself. (and bush is supposedly a History major, ha).
- fuzzynyanko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10What's sad is that George Bush Sr. came up with a similar conclusion if we toppled the Iraq government after the first invasion.
- anachronaut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Follow the money (those cargo planes literally full of tons of dollars, much of which "vanished" into thin air -- they sent 363 TONS of bills to Iraq, mainly in the form of $100s). This Iraq war is nothing but a huge money-laundering operation to strip the [current and future] American taxpayers of billions and billions of dollars and funnel it to favored individuals and corporations.
There's absolutely _nothing_ inept about what they've done, because they got the exact results they were banking on (pun intended). They've caused the deaths of countless Iraqis and 3300+ Americans purely for [current and future] profit. The sooner people realize how cold and calculating these Machiavellian monsters truly are, the better. - the6thReplicant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9In the "power of nighmares" BBC series the CIA also warned about the collapse of the Soviet Union too. One of the people who not only ignored the advice but insisted on the opposite: Donald Rumsfeld
- reiner15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9*more, or the most stupid. Not stupider.
- laserblazer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Bush Brand condoms, eh?
So you'd surge in, make a mess, never want to pull out even though you find out you're ***** the wrong person, all while taking it up the ass from a guy named Dick and a guy you call Turd Blossom?
I don't predict record sales. - Jerky1312, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The people running this country new very well what was going to happen and triggered it anyway. The breakup and turmoil in the region is all part of the U.S. plan of "divide and weaken" they implement around the world. Nothing is a surprise.
- donkz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I knew this war was hopeless occupation with doomed eventual withdrawal. Russia battled afgani for 10 years and achieved absolutely nothing.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Humanitarian crisis? We already have one. There's a massive refugee problem and obvious sectarian violence,. Also FYI, Japan attacked America and Germany declared war on us. Iraq did neither. You can't compare the situation to WW2.
- SqueakyMouse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8
Hussein already had switched to selling in euros and the under US occupation it was switched back. Iran also expressed an interest in doing the same but have not yet switched.
One theory is that the US will not tolerate any competition as the world's reserve currency, since it enables the US to maintain a higher trade deficit. If the major commodities are not sold in dollars then there is less motivation to hold dollars in reserve with which to purchase them. They could still purchase dollars first and then buy what they need in dollars but there is an additional transactional cost in doing this and the additional risk of having to remain strong against the dollar. - dukeeeey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7if you want to know whats going on
watch this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230 - ichbinladen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Bush is a moron. A moron who likes to send American soldiers to their deaths.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Didn't know God was so interested in international politics...
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was an actual enemy and actual threat in the second world war. There's neither in Iraq (well, there wasn't before the US created an environment for them to breed).
- Talisian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7 Thank you for tagging the message with "EXPOSED." Is anyone else getting sick of this practice of capitalizing words such as "BREAKING" and on Digg? Maybe I'm becoming too cynical but I often feel mislead by people's agendas on Digg, especially when they use practices like this- it's either posted for advertising to someones blog instead of the actual story, or some persons political agenda, or some persons fanboy agenda.
- parax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The first time I didn't vote. I was coming off the high of the Clinton era and I couldn't even imagine things being bad. Jobs were everywhere, the dot-com boom was in full swing, companies were springing up in my city like never before... Once that party came to an abrupt end and we found ourselves in 2 wars, it compelled me to register just to vote against Bush.
- diggsIt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5A realistic goal? The invasion was over long ago. Mission Accomplished, remember. Colin Powell told the Pres. that if we invaded Iraq, we'd own the aftermath. It didn't take a CIA assessment to know that the post-invasion mess would be bad. I wonder if the Admin. would have been so gung-ho about Iraq if either Bush or Cheney had served in Nam?
- shadowkiller137, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@revisrev that would be because a lot of us couldnt legally vote due to the age restrictions
- MWIllMS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@jarrodiscool
True. Cause he sure as hell isn't listening to us. One Signature. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"whether you agree with how we got there or not, we can't leave Iraq now."
Of course we can. You order the troops to the airport, put them on planes and fly the planes to the USA. Mission accomplished.
"We can't leave now" is completely absurd. - bsmang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm a bit suprised there aren't 10x more of them, but there's still some time left before the world collapses.
- SilentSpyder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4All of a sudden Kucinich's plan to impeach Cheyney doesn't seem so far fetched to me.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm talking about RUSSIA'S economy, not Afghanistan's.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Well Russia's economic struggles have more to do with their pathetic socialist system's demise than anything else. Corruption notwithstanding, Russia is actually doing pretty well economically...
- chuckytaylor02, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That former CIA director is pissed they used his words, "Slam Dunk Case" out of context. Now his reputation and career is ruined.
- dmjarrington, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What's funny about this is that the CIA told him this, but anarchy in Iraq was probably the intention the whole time.
- zunipus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Question of the day:
Who is stupider?
A) William Kristol
B) George W. Bush
C) Dick Cheney - kd1s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3CIA warned him, State warned him, just about everybody warned him. But the oil companies would have none of that. So what if 130K troops wasn't enough to put down rebellion, so what if we aren't embraced as liberators.
With the price of a barrel of oil floating at $60, and gas climbing steadily towards $4 a gallon if you're an oil guy you're reeling in the money.
And let us not forget that a highly mechanized military uses an awful lot of fuel. - jhr007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+41950s CIA helps overthrow democratically elected leader. Source cia.gov:
https://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/vol48no2/article10.html
Leading up to this war I remember a General being swept underneath the carpet for saying that the force we were sending to Iraq was UNDERSTAFFED.
What about the WMDs and secret nuclear trucks? The media gobbled up government press releases like baby birds and pre-chewed food. No one bother to call an independent source and do some journalist legwork. Watch this
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/btw/watch.html - diggerydood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Bush wasn't a "D" student, and in fact got higher grades at Yale than John Kerry...."
It that's true, we should have elected the person who did Bushie's homework for him. - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@kurttrail: Haha, come on, those synonyms oversimplify things. The same site will tell you "heartbroken" and "depressed" is the same thing (yes, check yourself by looking for "sad") when that wholly depends on the circumstances. It's just a stupid thesaurus.
Anyway, anarchy is human society without a functioning state. So that's what oxigen is saying. Chaos doesn't have that requirement of lacking a state, you can have that regardless. So this is more like chaos than an anarchy. - oxigen, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6There is no Anarchy in Iraq.There is chaos. I'd hate to be annoying, but there is a difference and Anarchy is not synonymous with chaos.
- spock627corfu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@jcm: I wonder how much of Afghanistan's economic growth is based on poppy production?
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