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- lady49, on 08/24/2008, -24/+79I'm reminded of the truth of General Clarke's statement:
"getting shot down" doesn't qualify you to be president.......
No greater words of truth have ever been spoken! - Lynx55, on 08/24/2008, -15/+56And I will say this again, being a POW is not a guarantee that you are a man of sterling quality and wonderful characteristics. Unless of course, McSame is willing to ssy the same things about all the guys in Gitmo. They are POW's after all.....er, right?
- kingofinternet, on 08/25/2008, -16/+50how dare she say that about john mccain, he was a p.o.w.
- EatingPie, on 08/25/2008, -9/+39I actually found this a legitimate criticism.
McCain deserves credit for surviving his POW experience. But it's not a free ticket, and if that's what his campaign is using it for, they're in danger of losing credibility. Basically it'd be analogous to saying that if you don't vote for Obama it's because you're a racist.
I don't think it's quite as bad as Dowd makes it out to be, but it should serve as a warning, and I hope the McCain campaign keeps this in mind.
-Pie - contemplate, on 08/24/2008, -13/+37If his father and paternal grandfather had not been "four-star United States Navy admirals" (Wikipedia) he probably never would have been accepted at the naval academy, probably would have never been allowed to be an aircraft carrier pilot and therefore would have never been shot down in the first place. He's not so much a hero, as a unlucky victim of his own privilege. Take away the privilege and luck and the 'hero' disappears in a mist.
- Turbojugend27, on 08/25/2008, -19/+40Digg, fix your DNS servers, they are forwarding to the huffington post again. I thought this probloem was fixed?
- MaryanneAZ, on 08/24/2008, -22/+43I think I will personally duct tape McCain's mouth if I hear him utter "My Friends," "Surge" or "POW" one more time. One would think his new handlers would try and ratchet back some of that redundant rhetoric to prevent the public at large from getting fed up with his constant use of those tired terms. We've already had 8 years of a President who had a limited vocabulary, poor articulation skills and poor ability to explain and lead a Nation. I look forward to a President Obama just to get a rise in the skill level of our Nation's leader. Obama/Biden '08
- lhbaker, on 08/25/2008, -2/+22Not to mention the fact that Bush's definition of torture implies that John McCain was never actually tortured.
- MiltonWaddams, on 08/24/2008, -24/+42HuffPo spam. Article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/opinion/24dowd.h ...
- maxgoedjen, on 08/25/2008, -3/+20This would be funny if so many people didn't think exactly like that.
- suhongy, on 08/25/2008, -1/+15A "War on Terror" was never a war against a country in the first place.
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -5/+16Uh... Huh... I'm sorry, I just can't follow. What, exactly, does your comment have to do with lady49's original post?
- cg4et, on 08/25/2008, -1/+12Guilty until proven innocent, I suppose. Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out, right?
- chase001, on 08/25/2008, -3/+13According to Bush and the GOP, McCain was not a POW he was a detainee and not subject to the Geneva Convention.
- BelatedHero, on 08/25/2008, -1/+10What? That's Maureen Dowd... definitely not McCain's wife, smart guy.
- quandrum, on 08/25/2008, -1/+10But most are exceptional students who begged one from their local Congress critter.
John McCain was never an exceptional student and got it handed to him on a silver platter. - BelatedHero, on 08/25/2008, -4/+12Did you read the article? Nobody is questioning his experience and what he went through. And you're probably right, most of us wouldn't last under the same circumstances. But what attacks are you talking about? McCain sure as hell isn't getting swift-boated here. Criticism of him on this issue is fair because McCain and his PR people are CONSTANTLY bringing up the fact that he was a POW. The only way you wouldn't know it by now is if you had been living under a rock for the past 8 years. McCain's handlers are using his POW story as a way to deflect criticism and it's getting old. Wesley Clark was right, simply being shot down and held as a POW does not mean you're entitled to be president (same goes for Clark who got shot up in Vietnam). In using his POW story as a political shield he cheapens it.
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -12/+20Yes moron, change and hope and thinking we can are such stupid concepts. So much worse than cheating on your wife and being waterboy for failure.
Just ***** vote for McCain and stuff your head back up your ass. - DivisibleByZero, on 08/25/2008, -7/+14"I was startled, but it brought home to me what a powerful get-out-of-jail-free card McCain had earned by not getting out of jail free. ...
So it's hard to believe that John McCain is now in danger of exceeding his credit limit on the equivalent of an American Express black card."
This article has more analogies than a deaf pope trying to cut down a tree in the woods with nobody else around except for a flying pig.
Anyhow, his divorce happened pretty shortly after the P.O.W. thing, so I don't see a problem with it. It's not like he's doing morally dubious stuff today and using 'Nam as an excuse. Why get onto a guy about stuff that happened 28 years ago anyhow? - plebiscite, on 08/25/2008, -3/+10"This is a guy who lived in a one house for five and a half years - in prison" Brian Rogers McCain spokesman, In response to Obama making light of McCain not remembering how many homes he owns.
"The insinuation . . . that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous" Nicole Wallce, McCain spokeswoman, in response to McCain not being in a cone of silence at Saddleback.
within the last week... - inactive, on 08/25/2008, -1/+8Big ***** deal....there have been a lot of pow's in this country - the difference between McCain and most is that they are not expecting to receive special consideration for anything.
- plebiscite, on 08/25/2008, -1/+8... Because he brought up being a POW.... repeatedly
- hatdrop, on 08/25/2008, -2/+9ad hominem
- Bith8654, on 08/25/2008, -2/+8Actually I would say yes, graduating from Harvard is a much better qualification for the presidency than getting shot down on a mission you were unqualified for. If it was really about fighting for freedom, they would have sent the best pilot for the job, not the one with the highest ranking daddy and granpappy.
And just to be clear, you did just seriously ask if a Harvard education trumps failing a military mission right? Seriously? - publiclurker, on 08/25/2008, -1/+7And nothing that happened to him meets the current administration's definition of torture.
- elipabst, on 08/25/2008, -0/+6Yeah I'm sure that the fact that his dad and grandpa were high ranking generals had absolutely nothing to do with it. Graduating in the bottom 1% of his class is the kind of hard work that got him into fighter training school. No wonder he got shot down.
- steelytrip, on 08/25/2008, -3/+9No greater words? Ever? About anything? You sure about that?
- VicHislop, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5OK, lead2thehead, since you don't count people working for McCain as people speaking for him, here are some from the man himself.
This sort of thing has apparently been in McCain's campaign strategy for the duration of his political career:
-In response to questions about his involvement in the Keating Five scandal, McCain said, "Even the Vietnamese didn't question my ethics."
-In 1982, when running he was accused of moving to Arizona merely to run for office, McCain responded that he lived in many places while in the military and that "the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi."
-When asked about Elizabeth Edwards' comment about McCain benefitting from health care provided by the government, McCain said, "It's a cheap shot, but I did have a period of time where I didn't have very good healthcare, I had it from another government."
-During the primary debates, McCain said, "Now, my friends, I wasn't there. I'm sure it was a cultural and pharmaceutical event. I was tied up at the time." This was in response to Senator Clinton's request for funds to create a museum about Woodstock in New York.
All those that I provided in these posts were from a few minutes scouring Google. - NikoKun, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5They are still prisoners of our war. Guilty or not... That technically makes them POWs.
Don't have to be innocent to be one. - chase001, on 08/25/2008, -1/+6The Right doesn't need facts. They have their hate and fear to feed them and the Ministry of Misinformation, Fixed News.
- beldark, on 08/25/2008, -2/+7If you think that people in the academies did not get there through hard work, then you are ignorant, plain and simple. Getting a recommendation from a legislator is a small part of the work involved.
- VicHislop, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5How does criticism of McCain equate to support for Kerry? I keep seeing this brought up, but I don't understand how it's relevant to compare a current Presidential candidate with a poorly received, past candidate who lost his election bid. Are you sure that's the sort of impression you want to create about McCain?
- clarkd, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5I don't understand why people are digging you down. Huffington lifted parts of the article word for word and didn't even add any original or paraphrased material. Hell they didn't even give the author proper credit on their site. At least they had the common decency to put a link back to the original story.
I hope from now on that people will do what you did. Go to the site, find the original article, and post that in the comments section. Better yet, just submit that as an article on Digg. - DutchGuilder, on 08/25/2008, -19/+24> I will personally duct tape McCain's mouth if I hear him utter "My Friends," "Surge" or "POW" one more time.
Ditto for "change", "hope", and "yes we can!". - aussiejan, on 08/25/2008, -4/+95 years as a POW still does not make him any more qualified to be president than just about anybody else. In fact PTSD is a distinct possibility which would make him a lot LESS qualified. It may be that or something else but there's just something wrong with that man.
- DreadPirate, on 08/26/2008, -1/+6*Allowing* himself to be captured? Do you realize how arrogant you are, CRC? I would bet my entire life savings that you would do a hell of a lot worse in the same situation, you hypocritical coward.
- cg4et, on 08/25/2008, -1/+6ummm . . . did you read the article?
- publiclurker, on 08/25/2008, -2/+7He never brings it up? Who fed you that crap sandwich?
This morning I heard him try to explain how he couldn't remember how many houses he had. The first thing out of his mouth was a reference to him being a POW. - mimigins, on 08/25/2008, -0/+4The brother doesn't want help. He's not living on a dollar a day.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/22/bts.obama.b ...
-"But reports surfaced in the past few days, springing from an Italian Vanity Fair article saying George Obama is living in a shack and "earning less than a dollar a day."
The reports left him angry.
"I was brought up well. I live well even now," he said. "The magazines, they have exaggerated everything.
"I think I kind of like it here. There are some challenges, but maybe it is just like where you come from, there are the same challenges," Obama said."-
-""I would like Obama to visit his brother to see how he is living, to improve his way of life," said Emelda Negei, who runs a small dispensary near Obama's house.
But George Obama will have none of it." - DFutureIsNow, on 08/25/2008, -0/+4McCain is a ***** mad man, you thought Bush was bad, this guy is going to bring back the draft and start going to war with other countries, you dont want this crazy SOB near the nuclear button, that much I know.
- VicHislop, on 08/25/2008, -0/+4Well, recently with the whole issue around McCain not knowing how many houses he has, his campaign responded with:
"This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years -- in prison."
There have been more, but I'm curious: was this a serious question? I mean, have you not been reading any newspapers or watching any footage of McCain? He really does spare no opportunity to remind people of his service or his time as a POW, no matter how irrelevant it might be to a particular situation. - DivisibleByZero, on 08/25/2008, -1/+5I never said the swiftboaters were right either.
- DivisibleByZero, on 08/25/2008, -2/+6Do you feel any sympathy for the soldiers dying in Iraq? They volunteered too.
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -3/+7Um. I think you don't know exactly what you are talking about. The story is not as simple as you would like to believe.
- mikemx7f, on 08/25/2008, -2/+6The fact that it just linked to a nytimes article is just stupid. Why not digg the actual article instead of the Huff link?
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -4/+8He never brings it up?????? Do you ever watch the news or read a paper?
- DevilInPgh, on 08/25/2008, -1/+5I thought the answer was "barely managing to pass at Annapolis".
- edebolt, on 08/25/2008, -13/+16McCain was offered release from the tortures of the Hanoi Hilton and he said kiss off unless my buddies go with me. None of the chicken ***** journalists, politicians or diggers would ever in a million years be that tough. Stop watching movies with fake heroes and open your eyes to a real bad ass. Most journalists and politicians would throw a ***** fit if their Mocha Latte is cold.
- mchisari, on 08/25/2008, -0/+3
Here you go.
-- Asked again about the matter in an interview with CBS’s Katie Couric, McCain noted: “I spent some years without a kitchen table, without a chair, and I know what it's like to be blessed by the opportunities of this great nation.” -- - inactive, on 08/25/2008, -1/+4We can all thank God that McCain isnt black or a woman too or he would be playing those cards as well.
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