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Dodd to Bush: We Would Never Take ‘Trust Me' For An Answer
thinkprogress.org — Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) took to the Senate floor and protested the bill today, arguing that that Congress should not reward the President ’s “favored corporations” for betraying “millions of customers’ trust.”
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- Pitofdoom, on 12/18/2007, -3/+42Who or what is there left to "trust", everything has been severely corrupted...
- krnldmp, on 12/18/2007, -1/+8Don't worry. Americans were Never supposed to trust government anyway. It's only since many have started to do it that things got bad.
- lazyfisherman, on 12/18/2007, -2/+3Chris Dodd ? His recent actions would not seem to endear him to our corporate masters.
- craftyguy, on 12/18/2007, -1/+3When I hear about a senator like Dodd who is actually doing the right thing, the first thought I have is that "wow, this guy needs to be our president". It's sad that doing the right thing is this rare.
- joebob, on 12/18/2007, -1/+7Dodd isn't exactly squeeky clean, but he's on the right track here.
It rarely seems to be that difficult to find the right thing to do on most issues, its getting enough of the ones in a position of power who aren't bought off on that particular issue to stand up and try to grab some limelight by showing off some of the backdoor shenanigans.
Throw em all out, convict most of the criminally liable and start whole checks and balances concept over again.
- joebob, on 12/18/2007, -1/+7Dodd isn't exactly squeeky clean, but he's on the right track here.
- Vektuz, on 12/18/2007, -1/+2I'm really glad to see him doing this. It almost makes up for voting for a bill a while ago (telecommunications act bill, which, thanks to him and a bunch of others, actually passed), along with Biden, which helped the same companies he's fighting here, monopolize the industry and also as an extra bonus, pandered to the religeous right in terms of "decency".
Its amazing what a candidacy does for changing your mind eh
- yellowcakewalk, on 12/18/2007, -2/+51F*ck Bush and every single senator and every single congressperson that supported immunity for the crimes committed by the telecoms. Prosecute the criminals responsible for breaking the law and chuck them in prison. Bush, of course, must be impeached and THEN prosecuted.
- maxyRO, on 12/18/2007, -3/+12too much Bush on the front page. And not the good one!
- Skootles, on 12/18/2007, -0/+5There is no such thing as good Bush.
- TTURabble, on 12/18/2007, -1/+14If you don't like the way your congress is acting, vote them out next election. Rise up and shout "No Incumbents!"
I'm sure if enough people say it then these congressmen will get the message (in addition to the thing being catchy enough for people to remember and repeat it)- zizzybaloobah, on 12/18/2007, -4/+3Even better than 'No Incumbents' would be 'No more Dems and Republicans'. Whether Incumbents or newbies, Congress is beholden to a broken two-party system that wholly exists to keep itself in power first, and maybe serve the electorate if that conveniently benefits that power grab.
- drhamad, on 12/18/2007, -2/+4We tried shouting "no incumbents" in 2006. It worked well. We voted out a lot of republicans, a lot of lame brained people. Problem was, the newly-powerful didn't do anything with it.
- aduzik, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1They weren't that powerful. They have a slim majority in the house and a slimmer majority in the senate. At best they could have prevented a lot of bad legislation but never had a chance to pass good legislation. I do believe they squandered their opportunity, though.
- jgzman, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1they have more power than they have shown. We just voted another 190 billion for the war in Iraq. No timetables. The vote was something along the lines of 90-4.
Great job they're doing.
- jgzman, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1they have more power than they have shown. We just voted another 190 billion for the war in Iraq. No timetables. The vote was something along the lines of 90-4.
- aduzik, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1They weren't that powerful. They have a slim majority in the house and a slimmer majority in the senate. At best they could have prevented a lot of bad legislation but never had a chance to pass good legislation. I do believe they squandered their opportunity, though.
- lnxfi, on 12/18/2007, -1/+12I think it's at the point that drug dealers are more trustworthy than Bush. Is there anyone who still actually thinks this guy is doing a good job?
- shredswithpiks, on 12/18/2007, -2/+5there are a lot of people who still think he's doing a good job.
:( - flyingcatcircus, on 12/18/2007, -1/+6I think he's down to about 20% approval. 20% also believe the earth is 2000 years old, so I think he'll hold steady. :-)
- Vektuz, on 12/18/2007, -1/+5Very true. The remaining 20% believe that the rapture is coming and bush is Jesus 2.0 and ... you know... you just can't EDUCATE that out. Can't be fixed.
- flyingcatcircus, on 12/19/2007, -0/+1I believe evolution will fix it. :-)
- Vektuz, on 12/18/2007, -1/+5Very true. The remaining 20% believe that the rapture is coming and bush is Jesus 2.0 and ... you know... you just can't EDUCATE that out. Can't be fixed.
- fuzzynyanko, on 12/18/2007, -0/+2They still think the economy is great
- shredswithpiks, on 12/18/2007, -2/+5there are a lot of people who still think he's doing a good job.
- Chunken, on 12/18/2007, -1/+11"I'd never ask you to trust me. It's the cry of a guilty soul."
- Vektuz, on 12/18/2007, -1/+2Is this a quote from somewhere/someone?
- Chunken, on 12/21/2007, -0/+0It's a quote from the movie Way of the Gun. Although I wouldn't be surprised if they got it from somewhere else.
- Vektuz, on 12/18/2007, -1/+2Is this a quote from somewhere/someone?
- bemenaker, on 12/18/2007, -1/+5Thank you Chris
- N3M3515, on 12/18/2007, -1/+10I wish every year was an election year, then the corruption might not be so rampant.
- zizzybaloobah, on 12/18/2007, -0/+2LOL You think politicians are less corrupt in an election year? maybe it's just that they're more careful about being caught!
- lnxfi, on 12/18/2007, -0/+2You missed the point. He means that way we aren't stuck with a idiot (well, as far as politicians go) for 4 years.
- zizzybaloobah, on 12/18/2007, -0/+2LOL You think politicians are less corrupt in an election year? maybe it's just that they're more careful about being caught!
- Orion682, on 12/18/2007, -1/+4I'm glad Dodd has stopped pandering to everyone for election and decided to, seemingly, go do his ***** job. He's certainly got my vote if he keeps this up. More politicians need to realize that often, the best campaigning of all is to do your job and to do it well enough to get noticed. More need to follow his example.
- Vektuz, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1While he must be commended for this, it is definitely a recent change in his voting patterns. Make sure to check his voting record first. Its all at http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=53277
- AMadeUpName, on 12/18/2007, -1/+3I am glad to see that there are still some in congress with backbones.
- OttawaMarcin, on 12/18/2007, -1/+3..."in any constitutional climate, the administration of justice thrives on exposure to light – and withers under a cloud of secrecy." J, Fish
- bowens44, on 12/18/2007, -1/+16Bushes first lie as President of the United States:
"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."- lazyfisherman, on 12/18/2007, -1/+6lol. "I do solemly swear that will faithfully execute the office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, make decisions that preserve and defend the rights of private corporations, the ruling class and my friends, undermine the Constitution of the United States and exploit the working-class citizens of America."
- Nth3nSum, on 12/18/2007, -1/+4Didn't they (congress and the senate) trust him on the Patriot act? Iraq War? Telecoms immunity?
They'll trust him again because they have no backbones. Dodd just figured out the poll numbers from 2004. - cambob76, on 12/18/2007, -1/+1So when did this change? Likely too little to late...
- unknownsoldierX, on 12/18/2007, -1/+2Anyone have any links to statements from politicians on why they support this bill? I don't see how they could justify it, but I am interested in hearing their arguments for it.
- AsusMobo, on 12/18/2007, -0/+5There was an interesting argument. The fact is that the telcoms have broke so many laws, and broke them so many times, that allowing law suits from American citizens to go forward would bankrupt them 10x over.
- peaceninja, on 12/18/2007, -4/+0maybe i'm stupid...but if i were a corporation and the government made me provide material to them, i would do it. why would the corporation be blamed for anything? I know it's a little bit more complex (ie corporations have the money to pay for the lawyers to consult them on these types of moves) but still...the GOVERNMENT asks for this information. Why blame the corporations? Shouldn't we be blaming the administration / government??
- 00Sean00, on 12/18/2007, -0/+4Each telecom company had the right to refuse, and could have fought on your behalf. They chose not to, and thus must suffer the consequences.
- drhamad, on 12/18/2007, -0/+3The government didn't make them do anything. It just said "hey, can we have all this info?" and they said "why sure, all that stuff that's supposed to be private, here ya go!"
If they'd been handed a court order or anything, it'd been fine. - bowens44, on 12/18/2007, -0/+2The government didn't make them do anything. That would have required a warrant. There were no warrants issued. What they did was a blatant violation of the law. BTW , we ARE blaming the administration but to put it in other terms, if someone planes a bank robbery and others participate voluntarily, they're all equally guilty.
- peaceninja, on 12/18/2007, -0/+0Thanks to everyone who responded, though I still find it very difficult to believe that the telecoms would still provide this information without either some sort of legal threat, or they were paid to do it. Certainly one of those things took place? Why am I being dug down to question what's happening? It's not very obvious what's happened but I do wish Congress would investigate it so that we would know what exactly happened.
- kreneskyp, on 12/18/2007, -0/+2even if the president asks you to shoot someone in the face you still goto jail for murder (if you don't get a coverup, retro active immunity, and or pardon)
- sremick, on 12/18/2007, -1/+1While I agree with this, it's like the third (or more) time it's been duped to the front page.
Dupes are bad, even when I like the article. - gthrank, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1And STILL nothing happens. Democrats cave in on warrantless wiretapping, immunity for corporate law-breaking, funding for Bush's misadventures, torture, CIA video tape destruction, global warming pact, assault weapons, etc, etc.
Why doesn't Congress just dissolve itself and go home. I just don't see how they are serving anyone. We all KNOW Bush is a lying SOB but congress was supposed to stop him - that's why we voted for them in 2006. And they've achieved NOTHING in stopping Bush's unbelievable destruction of American values and interests. - Kenzan, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1AW, C'mon! Trust me! Would I Lie?
- abid8740, on 12/18/2007, -2/+0I read that as "dood to bush"
- soehner, on 12/18/2007, -0/+3THIS is the type of behavior that we should expect from our representatives. Bravo Sen. Dodd!
- vorlons, on 12/18/2007, -0/+0Rock on Sen. Dodd. The other Senators who are running for president could not GOTFA. You sir have done your duty to protect the Constitution. There should have been an all out stampede of Senators wanting to go on record to oppose such a bill, how disgraceful there wasn't.
Go Ron Paul 2008!
- vorlons, on 12/18/2007, -0/+0Rock on Sen. Dodd. The other Senators who are running for president could not GOTFA. You sir have done your duty to protect the Constitution. There should have been an all out stampede of Senators wanting to go on record to oppose such a bill, how disgraceful there wasn't.
- mrzack, on 12/18/2007, -6/+1Don't support Hellary KLINGtON, or Balack O'BOMBa,
give money to Ron Paul. Support Real FREEDOM!!!! - nickrct, on 12/18/2007, -0/+5The pride of Conneticut is Senator Dodd... The equally painful shame is Senator Lieberman
- Runawaygerbil, on 12/18/2007, -0/+2remember when our biggest problems were the communist, not the democrats and republicans.
- cybersaur, on 12/18/2007, -0/+2Well, the "communists" are still killing our pets and brain damaging our children with lead paint, but the corporatists in DC keep getting wads of money stuffed into their pockets by lobbyists so they look the other way. Corporate lobbying should be outlawed. Period. The government needs to be more responsive to the needs of the People and stop bending over backwards for corporations.
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