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- justguessing, on 07/31/2008, -2/+109And the same machines will be used again in November. Still no paper trail.
- irobot2, on 07/31/2008, -2/+70Yep...and this is only what happened in Georgia. Good luck America.
- swrostmore, on 07/31/2008, -3/+66Voter fraud is real, it's here, and its already taking place in preparation for the 2008 elections. Hundreds of thousands have already been disenfranchised.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Call_to_action_V ... - owenkun, on 07/31/2008, -2/+53It's pretty sad that I have more trust for Microsoft's undocumented software patches than I do for Diebold's.
- Cadenzah, on 07/31/2008, -2/+49It's not the people who vote that count; It's the people who count the votes - Joseph Stalin
BTW, they had elections in East Germany too. Democracy is the biggest lie ever. - crash331, on 07/31/2008, -3/+45I thought it was really weird that Georgia, which has pretty much been Democratic up till 2002 all of a sudden cleaned house and replaced everyone with Republicans.
Sonny Purdue is the first Republican Governor of Georgia since 1872. - FredFredrickson, on 07/31/2008, -1/+37This isn't a partisan issue - this is a human issue, and one which we should all be concerned about, Democrat, Republican, or what have you.
Fixed voting machines are a problem for everyone because they will always go to where the money is. Corruption is something we should all be against. It doesn't matter if it benefits your party or not, because if you play with this sort of fire, it will come back to burn you later. Eventually, your party will not be the one that's favored by the guys who rig the machines, and then you'll be in a deeper pit than you were before. - inactive, on 07/31/2008, -2/+38Just a conspiracy theory, eh?
Just like the many, many other examples of real conspiracies in history, this newly proven one will be conveniently ignored, and those who mocked people who looked seriously at this will slink away and not have the courage to admit they were wrong. Certainly, nothing will be done. - inactive, on 07/31/2008, -2/+36Anyone think Georgia is alone?
- muckemuck, on 07/31/2008, -2/+34Watch this.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4463776866 ... at least the last few minutes of it. That's when they do a mock election showing how a hacked sim card can change the vote and alter the paper trail.
... he who votes changes nothing, he who counts the votes changes everything.. - Hangly, on 07/31/2008, -0/+27Actually I think it will make it tediously predictable.
- RavagesOfTime, on 07/31/2008, -4/+26This ought to make November really interesting.
- AttilaD, on 07/31/2008, -1/+22Every time I read these articles I roll my eyes and think, "time for the tin-foil hats..."
Then I think some more and realize there's more evidence to support a hacked election than there was for Iraq's WMDs. - mikelieman, on 07/31/2008, -2/+21Show up, say the machine's broken and keeps messing up your vote, and demand a paper ballot.
Fill it out, and stick around to make sure they don't throw it out and it actually gets counted.
That's the key, I think... Taking the day off work to MAKE SURE that *YOUR* vote gets counted and there's no hanky panky between the ballot box and the tabulation.
And, rhetorically, who can take a whole day off the ensure the fairness and proper operation of the vote?
Screwed Again. - adamsetzler, on 07/31/2008, -0/+19When can we get to the mobbing of corrupt politicians already?
- swrostmore, on 07/31/2008, -1/+20http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/21/60minute ...
Raw Story began reporting on this story months before CBS' 60 Minutes picked it up. - swrostmore, on 07/31/2008, -3/+22“People working for Diebold were told to keep this quiet so Cox would not find out,” the whistleblower said. “They knew she was in over her head and had come to completely rely on Diebold. They controlled the warehouse, the machines, and the certification. There were no state employees.”
- berryessence, on 07/31/2008, -1/+18You can fix this by VOLUNTEERING FOR THE ELECTIONS POLLS!
This can curtail voter fraud! GET ACTIVE...I'M GOING TO BE A POLLSTER INNOVEMBER! - subgeniusd, on 07/31/2008, -0/+15From the article - "They controlled the warehouse, the machines, and the certification. There were no state employees.” In the intown Atlanta precinct where I voted in 2002 I remember some clown with a Diebold name tag "observing" the activity.
And to your point about "claiming machine malfunction" there are like 20+ machines in most urban precincts so that won't work at all.
I in fact asked that dope why there was no hard copy voting reciept and he said it was not necessary with their "secure technology". I asked "so my vote just went into the ether I guess" ( I vividly recall this having just heard about Diebold fraud on Coast to Coast).
And this is how we got 8 sad Bush years.........corrupt bastards. - h3lx, on 07/31/2008, -2/+16Someone, anyone, The Spaghetti Monster, Jesus, Krishna, I don't care who needs to compel the DoJ to act. This is a year or more after this story first broke, since then we've had scores of professional people come forward with testimonials to how it was done, who was doing it, and why it allowed to continue... it shouldn't take a congressional hearing to determine that something is not quite right in Dodge and the matter deserves the attention of the FBI. Some of that no-warrant wire-tapping could be useful in unraveling this conspiracy.
- bakstuh, on 07/31/2008, -1/+14Sonny Purdue is a serious *****-bag. I'm a Georgian native and currently reside here, and because of Sonny's recent controversies (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Perdue), I doubt that another republican official will be elected in after Sonny.
- adamsetzler, on 07/31/2008, -0/+13The source code for gambling machines is publicly available. But not voting machines. Conflicting priorities?
- yosserhughes, on 07/31/2008, -3/+16And the reaction from the American publis is:......................................................where's that ***** channnel changer got to?
- zip000, on 07/31/2008, -0/+11I live in Georgia (unfortunately) and one of the biggest deals in voter fraud right now is actually absentee voting. The state government has made it increasingly difficult for people to vote in person, and have, at the same time, made it increasingly easy to vote absentee.
I am also very concerned about diebold as well obviously. - Stavrosian, on 07/31/2008, -0/+10The tin-foil hat reaction is understandable. There are plenty of people out there who believe in conspiracies which clearly have no basis in truth, and when we people of the internet, good and true, are bombarded with them daily it's easy to just dismiss every conspiracy claim as nutty.
Unfortunately, this is what has historically been relied upon to convince people to look the other way while nefarious plots are carried out. In years to come, when people study American history and take a close look at this highly controversial period, I suspect they will sit looking at all the evidence we have available to us and wonder just how it is that a nation founded in revolution as a reaction to tyranny blithely sat by and did nothing while democracy was hi-jacked. The family ties, the backdoor deals, the selective hiring, the voter blocking, the swings between exit poll data and actual results described by experts as "statistically impossible" to justify, the incomprehensible decision not to allow a recount, the swathes of colored voters denied their basic right to vote...people will wonder how naive we were to assume that nobody could possibly attempt to corrupt the electoral process. After all, it's not as though we are not aware that such things happen in other parts of the world, are we just so arrogant as to assume that our politicians, whom we see lie, cheat and steal on a daily basis, are somehow above this behavior?
Basically, yes. There's much more evidence, and I believe you are correct to re-evaluate your first impression, reasonable though it initially appears to be. - poiuytrewq44, on 07/31/2008, -0/+10Diebold keeps saying that a paper trail is impossible, and yet their competitors in a so-called dictatorship have been doing it for years. http://digg.com/politics/Venezuelan_Voting_Machine ...
- swrostmore, on 07/31/2008, -0/+10While I agree the Rawstory and Huffington are obviously partisan, comparing them to right-wing propagandists is stupid. When has O'Reilly or Hannity EVER broken a story that has been covered in the mainstream news? What they do is not journalism. Rawstory does engage in journalism, whether or not it is partisan is almost besides the point, because what they report is TRUE regardless of whether or not you agree with the slant they put on it.
- stretch611, on 07/31/2008, -0/+10Are you referring to the same DOJ that has only been hiring Staunch Republican party supporters and has been caught firing people for politically motivated reasons?
- Trenchcoat77, on 07/31/2008, -0/+10Volunteering is good, but how exactly can you prevent Diebold from screwing up the results?
- jlhoben, on 07/31/2008, -0/+9People get 10 years in jail for growing some pot and these scum escape justice? Let's not stand for this any longer!
- swrostmore, on 07/31/2008, -0/+8Do you think, when voter rolls get purged, each person who's name is removed gets a little valentines' card that says "we're sorry, you are no longer registered to vote?"
- stretch611, on 07/31/2008, -0/+8And this year, thanks in part to Bob Barr, it should be a close election between Obama and McCain in Georgia.
I wonder what 'patch" Diebold will install this year. - scojac, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7Exactly, justguessing. I hear all of these outrages against our democracy again and again... and nothing ever gets done about it. Rove, executive powers, Diebold, Blackwater, you name it: it seems that all of these abuses are just catalogued and thrown on the backburner.
I sincerely hope that there isn't just too much going wrong to fix it. But how can a person expect change when the people who are responsible for these things aren't held accountable and aren't really elected? - nickels, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7How is it that we still use these machines again?
- digitalhair, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7IMJGaltstill
another Ayn Rand fan, John Galt idolizer that wants us to believe he's upset that citizens got screwed over by anyone. Oh yeah...you're SUPPOSED to be an *****, I forgot.
Who is John Galt?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/23/the_skin ... - SolitarySoviet, on 07/31/2008, -2/+9take a nail and scrape the edge of the touchscreen to destroy it... silent but effective, they wont have time to replace the machines so they would have to start doing paper ballots.
- zip000, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7Well there was Zell Miller...sure he is technically a Democrat, but he and many other Southern Democrats are often democrats in name only.
- swrostmore, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7"In swing-state Florida, the state is refusing to accept about 85,000 new registrations from voter drives – overwhelming Black voters.
In swing-state Colorado, the Republican Secretary of State conducted the biggest purge of voters in history, dumping a fifth of all registrations. Guess their color.
In swing state New Mexico, HALF of the Democrats of Mora, a dirt poor and overwhelmingly Hispanic county, found their registrations disappeared this year, courtesy of a Republican voting contractor.
In swing states Ohio and Nevada, new federal law is knocking out tens of thousands of voters who lost their homes to foreclosure."
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Call_to_action_V ... - JoeVet, on 07/31/2008, -2/+8So the end result is that lack of competence on the part of a DEMOCRAT has once again Allowed the Republicans to screwed the citizens. Shocker.
Fixed! - ConAmoreEFuoco, on 07/31/2008, -1/+7Alright, I'm calling this scenario:
"Despite a clear lead in the polls, Barack Obama lost the presidential election to John McCain, 55% to 43%. Media pundits rationalize the unexpected results: "It turns out that a lot of white people who had said they would vote for the black candidate were lying to pollsters to appear politically correct."
And that will be it. Hey, maybe we can win in 2012 though. - digitalhair, on 07/31/2008, -0/+6@dafragsta:
give me a ***** break...
not all of their reporting has been "sensational" as you and your buddy Karl Rove would like everyone to believe.
stop poisoning the well water with your talking points about bias - we already know which source is sensational (1- because we're not shoulder-biting morons, and 2- ) by weighing their respective Britney Spears and Paris Hilton references w/in their front page headlines at any given moment.
LIKE RIGHT NOW:
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2424/33417228wb ... - zip000, on 07/31/2008, -1/+7Yeah, Sonny lied...lol.
If you drive through any backwater redneck region of Georgia....i.e. 9/10ths of the state...you're likely to see big signs with rebel flags all over with the slogan "Sonny Lied" on them. The signs are complaining about Purdue's campaign promise to restore the old Georgia flag with the confederate flag on it....which he did not do....which is maybe the only good thing that he's done in office.
The Sonny Lied posters were much more popular a few years ago, but you can still see them in around. - VitriolAndAngst, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5Obama has to win by at least 15% to be shown to win.
But it's all the little crooks they let in that will make the real difference.
Rigging the vote for Max Cleland was just too obvious -- the problem is on all the elections where we aren't looking, or don't know who should be winning. - crash331, on 07/31/2008, -1/+6Sonny lied! lol. Yeah, I live in GA, too.
- diothar, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5Not at all.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5I am in Georgia, and even knowing that Diebold will be rigging the vote -- I must vote. Because I must force them to steal it each time. We cannot complain about rigged elections if we stay home. More and more people are accepting that our elections are manipulated -- people I used to argue with -- now they agree.
So don't stay home. Don't let the bad guys make you quit. If we never give up, they can never really win. Little by little, election by election, we can get good people into politics if we never quit. - VitriolAndAngst, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5Yup.
I guess we know why the main people getting arrested these days are whistle-blowers. - cosinezero, on 07/31/2008, -0/+4Mobbing? How about execution for treason?
- GSnake, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5Maybe 'anonymous' can provoke people to destroy/damage the touch screens. If enough random/anonymous people disable the touch screens as previously mentioned, they'll be forced to go to a paper trail balloting system. If this happens at enough polling locations, you could lead an effective offensive against those slimy bastards that attempt to sway the outcome of the most important election in the history of the known universe.
- zip000, on 07/31/2008, -0/+4Lots of people live in places that they hate due to circumstances that are beyond their control. Sure, I could just up and move elsewhere, but first I'd have to sell my house, find a job wherever it is that I'm moving etc.
I know that fundamentally I have the choice to leave, but practically speaking, it is a long process that I can't realistically undertake right now.
And actually, I kind of like the city that I live in, it just unfortunately happens to be located in Georgia.
It's harder to vote in person than it used to be. It is easier to vote absentee than it used to be. They have added restrictions to in person voting and taken restrictions away from absentee voting; I think that is pretty clear. -
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