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- SheilaNoya, on 10/15/2007, -24/+73The religious fanatics are threatening to destroy the Republican party if they don't get there way? FINE!!! Hopefully, this will teach politicians on both sides not to pander to these crazy bastards, or let these nutjobs have so much control. Government needs to get back to governing and stop trying to be the "morality police" for the idiots who want to force everyone to obey some archaic rules that were written by sheep herders during the Bronze Age.
- JigoroKano, on 10/10/2007, -4/+51I couldn't.
- Reese268, on 10/15/2007, -7/+51I think that this could actually be pretty interesting. The group which Dobson represents does in fact have a significant amount of voting power, and if they choose to support a 3rd party it could have an interesting effect on the political system, especially with everyone being as disillusioned as they are with the current dominant political parties.
While I truly hope Ron Paul will win the republican nomination, if he does not, I will be interested to see what happens here. - Reese268, on 10/15/2007, -5/+37They aren't really "theatening" anything. They just don't want to support someone like Giuliani. And who really does?
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25As a Christian, I agree these religious fanatics are destroying America. This is not a very Christ like America right now.
- CannedMango, on 10/10/2007, -9/+33The irony of your statement is that Ron Paul is the only candidate that *isn't* controlled by money and corporate interest. His support is just from a bunch of citizens banding together to try and save their country.
- JigoroKano, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23They threaten education standards, life saving research, and even our national security with their zealous support for Israel.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23There is no possibility that Rudy could win the general election if Dobson tells people to vote for a third party candidate. You can disagree, you can hate Dobson, but millions of people listen to him. They are the millions that have put Republicans in the White House. Without those votes Rudy's campaign is dead.
- mantodea, on 10/15/2007, -8/+28Gosh, does this mean the GOP might actually shed the ***** crazy demographic and return to a party of common sense and actual conservatism?
Yeah, you're right. That's crazy talk. I don't think republican polticos are ever going to abandon the Family Values Nanny State they so dearly want.
"The state will make you moral, citizen!" - fadeout, on 10/10/2007, -5/+25Republicans, enjoy having your owner Nader this election cycle! :)
- JoEBlack982, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21"pro-lifer Giuliani"
Huh? - vuke69, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19"***** nazi mega-bitch Hillary *****-face"
Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel. - Fordi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17Heh. Even the religious right wingnuts don't like Giuliani.
- Fordi, on 11/08/2007, -3/+20Funny. We're *giving* money to Paul's campaign by the bucketload, Paul's barely spending it, and he thinks a bunch of Diggers are getting paid to promote him.
Here's a secret, man: not a dime. He'll pay all of us when he gets elected, in the form of increased liberty, decreased spending, and the removal of the IRS. - EndersGame, on 10/10/2007, -6/+22Pwn'd.
- jadecristal, on 10/10/2007, -5/+20No, he's going to do what he believes is right, and not compromise on his principles. I may not like the man, but I have to admire that he actually stands for *something*. So many people are spineless about what they believe in, choosing the lesser evil until all that's LEFT is evil.
- jcaino, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17i dugg you down because i graduated college years ago. i even work in my field of study!
- mattyG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13"if the GOP nominates pro-lifer Rudy Giuliani."
should be pro-choice... Just so no one gets confused. - EndersGame, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Its great to see that these people won't get behind Guiliani along with Romney, like you said they do have a significant amount of voting power and are the reason Bush got voted in twice. If they aren't supporting the GOP's decisions, that cripples the GOP and leaves it wide open for somebody like Ron Paul to take the nomination. For Ron Paul to win the election is a whole other story, he will have to get people from all walks of political life behind him to pull it off.
- jcaino, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13YES!
- Botanicus, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15I'm glad Dobson is sticking to what he said in the spring, that he wouldn't vote for Gulianni. A true Pro-Life person should have a hard time voting for a 'Pro-Choice' person IF the abortion issue is a heavy one for them.
- jhofman, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Has no one noticed the OBVIOUS mistake in the story? Guliani is NOT a "pro-lifer." He is a pro-CHOICER. Dobson would back Guliani if indeed he was a pro-lifer.
Does NO ONE ACTUALLY READ THESE STORIES???? - maz2331, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Actually, for Paul the general election would be the easy part, with getting the nomination being the difficult battle.
- j0keR, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13The end-game of governing is a totalitarian police state. That's why the original intention of the founding fathers was a small (or even some believed in no) federal government.
- JackHorner, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10If Giuliani becomes president he will destroy the usa
- JamaicaJames, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12you think the lobbyists haven't been after him for twenty years? that's why he's called "Dr. No" by the lobbyists-he won't say yes to anything that causes bigger government!
Do some research before making yourself look stupid! - davidg11, on 11/08/2007, -25/+33I could care less either. However, I would take his voting block for Ron Paul.
- gryphonauto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Why not hate them both? The world isn't black & white, or even shades of gray, there's a whole spectrum of "colors" that many people miss . . .
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11no, he's just really committed to turning this country into a fascist christian theocracy.
- thewump, on 10/15/2007, -13/+20My usual response to this crowd is "focus on your own damn family". I hate this group and will never support them but would be happy to see their arrogant self righteous leader lead his sheep in a direction which benefits me for once.
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6don't celebrate yet, still have the neo-cons to contend with.
- Suricou, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Not a hope. Elections can be narrow, and every vote really is fought for. If Dobson leads his followers to a third party candidate... a loss of even 2% of republican votes will be enough to let the democrats win. Republican leaders know this - thats why Dobson makes his threat. Mutually-assured destruction. "Either give us the candidate we want, or will will destroy your chances of winning next election - even if it means letting those we loathe into power. Give us domination, or give us defeat - we will not compromise."
- Fordi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5One can assume that Dobson's group are not going to vote for Giuliani in the nomination.
- Frostman3D, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7I hope Ron Paul runs 3rd party when they don't give him the republican nomination because they're afraid of going back to the constitution.
- rgodfrey, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10If Dobson promises to follow through on this, I will campaign for Giuliani. I will throw up a little in my mouth, but Go Giuliani!
- erkokite, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Good luck on that one.
I'm off to find a candidate that will let me run around naked on acid while shooting an automatic rifle into the air. - nullvector, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7I don't think he's a bad dude, or has any evil motives, but the idea of stirring up a religious movement to vote in a certain way, based on his opinion, somehow pokes a nerve for me.
- Suricou, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5He isn't as rabbid, but his views are much the same - and he still comes out with some rediculous positions quite often. He just puts them in a calmer way. My favourites include blameing the Foley incident on democrats support for gay rights, claiming that vaccinating against HPV would turn girls promiscuous, and blameing contraception for the collapse of western civilisation.
- NnyCW, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Neocon world. Same ones that think Europe is lost to the muslims. They're the crazies.
- Suricou, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6He would impliment "Scandal Contingency Plan A": Disappear for a week, spend a month at an intensive christian de-gaying program, annouce to the world that the power of Christ has cured him of the illness of homosexuality, and go on as if nothing has happened - while being much more careful not to get caught next time. If the scandal is really bad, he will announce he has retired from politics to 'spend more time with his family,' and get a position as an advisor behind the scenes somewhere to be free of public notice.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You REALLY need to shed the whole "if I have A and B in front of me, I have to hate one and like the other" mentality that talk radio seems to have instilled in you.
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4yeah, and if states want to allow slavery...
- scottc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4While Dobson is not a looney like Robertson, he certainly does not promote Christian values. His twisted theology allowed him to support terrorists in Central America in the eighties, for example. He helped funnel money to them during Reagan's illegal war against Nicaragua.
- mfelkins, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I was wondering if anyone else caught on to that or I was missing something.
- saifatlast, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Read pintomp3's reply to your post. Conservative presidents nominate conservative supreme court justices. Once we get enough of those in the supreme court, Roe v. Wade gets overturned.
- rtcrump, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5no kiddin, should read "pro-choice". Hard to take an article serious when they flub on am issue by promoting the opposite fact
- scottc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Dobson was on the Board of Governors of the Council for National Policy, which helped fund the Contra terrorists.
from "an independent Christian research" website: http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.d.htm
from a watchdog group: http://www.watch.pair.com/database.html#dobson
more on the CNP from another watchdog group: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/groupwatch/cnp.php
Oliver North, former director of the terror campaigns, was also a CNP member. Dobson helped raise money for North's legal defense fund, but I couldn't find online sources to give you links for that. I probably still have one of his fundraising letters filed away somewhere.
Though this part of history is not well documented on the web if you talk to anyone involved in humanitarian or church aid efforts in Central America at the time they will probably remember Dobson's role, particularly after it became public and North went on trial. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6I agree with that jadecristal.... I disagree with our extremely liberal mayor here in Salt Lake City... but I respect him for sticking to his principles.
- NnyCW, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4And it seems the media is giving him a bit more attention lately after he pulled in the amount of money he did this past quarter. Not to mention the fact that he's spent a very small amount of all the money the campaign has brought in, they're going to have a decent amount of cash on hand for advertisments and TV spots come the primaries.
- Richandler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I don't like the evangelicals but I think any time there is serious 3rd party following it is good for America.
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