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- inactive, on 07/26/2008, -9/+64It is pretty obvious Obama is gonna be our next president. I for one am not very excited about that. (even though I donated to him pre FISA and pre Faith Based *****) However I believe I belong to a large minority of Americans who are ardently against the backward selfish, pro war, socialistic (privatize profits, socialize losses) policies of today's Republican party. And we live in a 2 party system, which means if I vote for Bob Barr, or Nader, I am essentially voting for John McCain.
And John McCain is a ***** joke. Seriously. John McCain is a ***** joke.
So I have decided to donate money to two different congressional seats in 2 different states I don't even live in, in hopes a few more reasonble voices will enter our Congress, and get some semi important posts on sub committes.
But I am forced to vote for Obama, because, a vote for any other presidential candidate, in today's world, is a vote for everything I abhor.
McCain is a ***** joke. - soccerman90, on 07/26/2008, -5/+51Nothing about our government surprises me any more
- Insightful, on 07/25/2008, -5/+40jabberwolf - you ignorant dumbass. Guess when the McCain speech was delivered? June 20th, *2008*, less than 30 days ago.
Furthermore, while there was some courting going on, the 1st primary was in January 2008, not June of last year.
Why don't you address the issue at hand - why are diplomats barred from Obama speech and not McCains? Double standard? Unnecessary and perhaps illegal politicization of government activities? - mikesoba, on 07/26/2008, -7/+41This is consistent with the Soviet method of crowd control at Party functions practiced by the Republicans.
- t3rmv3locity, on 07/26/2008, -3/+35The U.S. Government is corrupt? No ***** way, you gotta be kidding me.
- JeremyWhittaker, on 07/26/2008, -5/+32This is funny McCain can't fill a room full of people and the US government bars diplomats from attending an Obama speech and he brings in over 200,000 people. Simply amazing, the candidate of unity Obama 08
- Zenham, on 07/25/2008, -14/+41Obviously a Liberal plot to discredit John McCain!
- insomniac8400, on 07/26/2008, -6/+32Not only that they bared Obama and his staff from visiting the troops there. He is a senator! The right acts as if he is a chinese national.
- KibblesnBitts, on 07/26/2008, -4/+25the neocons and bush probably forgot that Canada is not a United States Entity
- kingofinternet, on 07/26/2008, -6/+26the surprises keep coming from the bush cabinet policymakers: first a solar power moratorium, second, census doesn't recognize gay couples, and now this.
- dood, on 07/26/2008, -1/+20Hell, I'd rather they take my money for services offered to me than take China's money, to be paid back by our next several generations -- the so-called 'conservative' plan.
- Berkana, on 07/26/2008, -0/+17Not so; the article says "Not only did McCain make clear references to and critiques of Obama’s policy positions in the speech, but he also referred to his own presidential campaign six times" refering to his visit to Canada.
McCain's was definitely a political rally. What this thing amounts to is blatant bias and a double standard on the point of Bush's diplomatic appointees. - charm803, on 07/26/2008, -2/+17You know, Obama has had many obstacles that keep coming at him and he's doing a great job at what he has been thrown.
So, the McCain camp, Fox, O'Reilly, and those that barred the diplomats can keep trying, but Obama is giving you the big FU in the most classiest way.
buahahahahaha! - qbthemc, on 07/26/2008, -12/+26Obama 08
- mr_wej, on 07/26/2008, -3/+15Makes complete sense to me, Obama will be the next president, McCain was just a tourist.
PS - I'm republican. - infinitus64, on 07/26/2008, -2/+13you hopefully forgot /sarcasm
- thesonofdarwin, on 07/26/2008, -0/+11No, they want the law applied equally. In both this case and the Bush trial.
Ridiculous thing applying the law equally, isn't it? - rz8472, on 07/26/2008, -0/+10I agree; it would take 5, 10 or even more FISAs to bring Obama down to the level of McCain as disappointing as his vote was.
Would those two congressional seats be the ones of Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul? - quandrum, on 07/26/2008, -0/+9Recognize gay marriages as marriages is what he means.
In states where gay marriage is allowed(CA, MA) the census takers will be not give gay couples the same consideration as straight couples.
They still mostly don't care who you screw, straight, gay or animal rape. - tomarocco, on 07/26/2008, -0/+9It's ironic how the people who cry 'brainwashed' are usually the ones who are most affected.
- Tenlow, on 07/26/2008, -1/+9The problem isn't that the hatch act exists. (I knew it was the rule, I just didn't know what it was called) The problem is that it is only applied toward the opposition party. When it means better press for the incumbent party, it's "just a goddamn piece of paper". That's the problem.
- CCUboogernjit, on 07/26/2008, -0/+8oh look an excellent e-mail for the spambots
- hipnerd, on 07/26/2008, -2/+9The census does track marriages. Two states now have legalized gay marriage. The Bush administration made a policy decision to not recognize that those couples are married.
When a state legalizes marriage to barnyard animals, you'll have a point. I hear Mississippi is close... - smacksaw, on 07/26/2008, -0/+6Congressional visit? What, the US Ambassador's personal congress in Ottawa? Ottawa's congress? Sorry, they've got a parliament.
Just what in the ***** are you talking about? - ironhide, on 07/26/2008, -3/+9Trust me, a chinese national (at least one with lots of money) would be treated very well by our government (including the "right")
- blackjack75, on 07/26/2008, -0/+6As much as I value Obama, I can't forget you guys voted Bush twice... So he may have all on his side, but the idiots who are going to vote are the same as those who did 4 years ago. I still have hope that the new voters will make a difference.
- arvvvs, on 07/26/2008, -0/+6@blackjack75: You've obviously never lived in the US. The amount of dirty tricks that were played in '04 and '00 is amazing. For 2000 Florida's vote was screwed up, and very close. There are a few conspiracy theories, about that one, mainly because Florida SoS got high honors from Bush. In '04 there was a false attack ad run against Kerry, that made him lose, along with voter suppression in Ohio. The thing is GOP likes to influence the sub concious so when your in the booth, the weak minded idiots get scared a bit.
You can see it happening; Obama's a muslim, he has secrets to hide, he's a socialist, yadayadayada. - smacksaw, on 07/26/2008, -1/+6I doubt you will be man enough to own up to your mistake. You claim to seek intelligent debate, but you got ***** OWNED...and part of intelligent debate is getting the facts right. You stand corrected. We wait for your admission of your mistake.
- Berkana, on 07/26/2008, -1/+6Obama being a presidential candidate does not make him cease to be a senator; even if McCain were merely invited as a senator, he turned his speech into a political promotion by critiquing Obama's policy positions and referring to his candidacy multiple times. Read the article. No one is without bias; this particular report from Think Progress is factual, and their over-all progressive leanings do not negate that.
- n00ptic, on 07/26/2008, -1/+6Nice spin, but not quite. The Pentagon informed Obama the day before the visit (which had been scheduled for weeks) that he could bring only Senatorial staff and and not travel by campaign funded means. However, the European leg was a campaign funded trip, so he had already sent his Senate staff home when he left the Middle East. (To have brought them along on the campaign leg of the trip would have shown ethically questionable judgment, after all.)
So, either the Pentagon showed gross incompetence in their handling or it demonstrated partisan motivation. Neither reflects poorly on Obama, but both paint the Pentagon in a very bad light. When you add to it the fact that the State Department's guidance was in direct violation of the Hatch Act and also in conflict with their previous handling of McCain's trips, it's hard argue against some serious partisan games going on. - SverigesKung, on 07/26/2008, -0/+5I too, am shocked..
- CletusTSJY, on 07/26/2008, -0/+5Nothing gets past you guys.
- Lewie, on 07/26/2008, -0/+5NOT RELATED
YOU
DOUCHEBAG!!! - lamiaconfitor, on 07/26/2008, -0/+5Yeah, because when I am looking for valid information, I go to blogspot... because I trust drunk rambling college students and wannabe porn models to tell me how to think. That is a step below political corporate pundit-news whores.
- Kanten, on 07/26/2008, -3/+8One who recognizes that Bush destroyed the economy?
- JoeVet, on 07/26/2008, -2/+6Sorry your candidate is a giant turd and you aren't getting any media interest but really, no one else cares about electing a Bush apologist.
- arvvvs, on 07/26/2008, -1/+5Critiquing Obama's position.... Which he does ALL the time.
he was supposed to give a speech on his energy policy. He attacked Obama on Iraq instead. - paigeinphilly, on 07/26/2008, -1/+5oh yes...lets not even consider impeaching him...
geesh. - dudeguy1234, on 07/26/2008, -0/+4LOL Yes. Obama, with roughly 1.5 million in personal funds, who grew up middle class, is MUCH more elitist then McCain, with his wife's fortune.
- inactive, on 07/26/2008, -1/+5I cringe at your comment, even though we are on the same side.
We have to find a way to de-poision the national dialogue.
Remember it's that kind of attitude that led us to discredit the UN weapons inspectors, and to discredit the critics of the veracity of our inside sources from Iran (which were Ahmed Chalabi, who has turned out to be a fraud, he was Curveball in all the CIA reports)
We need to stop the gutter culture gang like culture in politics. - SQLserver, on 07/26/2008, -0/+4Lets face it:
Obama is the best candidate on faith.(and I'm atheist)
A. You need faith to become president.
B. Obama has faith, but UNLIKE EVEN RON PAUL, he doesn't support Creationism, not believe in Evolution, he isn't anti gay-rights, he is pro-choice. - inactive, on 07/26/2008, -0/+4Kucinch and Darcey Burner.
Darcy Burner is running in WA-08 Check her out. I donated big to her campaign in 2006 and just doubled it for this one.
She is the real deal. - solarbeat, on 07/26/2008, -1/+5Mccain, who [insert list of mistakes too long to include here, but not limited to being one of the Keating five, mistaking Iraq for Afghanistan, confusing Sunnis for Shiites], is a grinning maniac (remind you of someone?), and adulterer (his personal life, but since it's been made an issue). Look at his campaign posters, they look like an ad for a retirement community.
26 years in the House and the Senate and has done f*ck all. Yeah, twenty-six years of being out of touch, that's experience. - parkerparrot, on 07/26/2008, -0/+3That was a State Department memo to Obama. . It isn't about one ambassador or the other. And there isn't a separate State Department for Canada. It's not whining. Fair is fair.
- CptBuck, on 07/26/2008, -1/+4by preventing diplomats from going to overseas rallies? Wow, the soviets sucked at crowd control.
- richbleak, on 07/26/2008, -0/+3Dangle: You are terrible at this.
- wallish, on 07/26/2008, -1/+4Why choose the lesser of two evils?
Vote Cthulhu '08! - FairDinkumMate, on 07/26/2008, -0/+3Do you HONESTLY believe that JHB?
Seriously, I understand you want to support your candidate, party, etc, but do you HONESTLY believe that Obama was speaking as a Presidential candidate & McCain was 'just a Senator'?
I HONESTLY belive that the incumbent party has always had an advantage of some sort due to the type of access that being in power brings. But I also believe that previously, this power was leveraged very carefully by the incumbents to avoid the 'appearance' of favours comng from the President. Whether it's harder to do now with so much information easily available to so many through the internet or whether the current Administration doesn't have the finesse or desire to achieve the same I don't know, but it is certainly different than in previous times. - insomniac8400, on 07/27/2008, -0/+3I am sorry the pentagon is the one who ***** up with the failure to acknowledge that the time Obama was going to visit was no longer part of the senatorial leg of the trip. For them to conveniently only discover this fact weeks after the trip was planned and only the day before he visited suggests a specific motive by someone up high. The terms that were laid out made it impossible for Obama to visit. He would have had to in less than 24 hours get a senate/us government funded trip approved and scheduled for him to visit the troops. Once his actually official US senate trip ended leaving him overseas, he was on the dime of his campaign. I guess someone up high that does not like Obama decided to selectively only acknowledge this less than 24 hours before he was going to visit. And to say Obama could have just walked to the front door demanding the rules be ignored would have worked is insane because military people just don't get fired when they disobey orders. A lot worse happens. You really should be disturbed that the military would not allow the front running in the race for the white house to have a campaign fund his way to a military base abroad. In the end if Obama was not a senator, the military would never let him visit troops. I find that disturbingly wrong. It gives a huge advantage to a senator during a time of war if he is running against someone who is not a senator. And I find it ridiculous that someone that is currently the front runner for president cannot get clearance to enter a military base as a private citizen.
- n00ptic, on 07/26/2008, -0/+3I'd recommend you go back and read Obama's plan on faith and community based initiatives. It shows no preference to any religion (or non-religion) and is really just an attempt to create a national program for grassroots community improvement. Such an approach is entirely in keeping with Obama's work as a community organizer and pretty much the position he's held his entire political career.
As an agnostic, and aggressive defender of the wall between church and state, I actually like Obama's plan on faith and community based initiatives (and I vehemently objected to the Bush program). Obama's plan adds checks and balances to ensure that the government will in no way support or endorse proselytizing, but takes a pragmatic approach to improving communities. I suppose I might have taken your position a few years ago, particularly in light of what the Bush program is. But then my sister spent a year living with me while she was in AmeriCorps. She has the same basic political and religious views as me, but she quickly learned that coordination with churches and community groups is essential to effective community outreach programs.
On the FISA thing, I actually support Obama's vote, but I've also been a proponent of FISA reform since before the Bush administration. My perspective comes from a several years of professional experience, and even then I readily admit the amendment was far from perfect and will need some additional refinement in the years to come. So, I can appreciate that people would justifiably disagree with Obama's position on that one. -
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