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- bsegovia, on 02/06/2008, -6/+268holy *****.
- nosecohn, on 02/06/2008, -4/+215LOL! This electronic voting thing just gets funnier by the day.
- sulthernao, on 02/06/2008, -2/+142Why would they use the real key in the picture? Are they asking to be hacked or do they want to be hacked?
- HenryFatass, on 02/06/2008, -20/+120Yay! News from over a year ago! Wait...is that still considered news?
- inactive, on 02/06/2008, -9/+95If We the People are stupid enough to allow our votes to be counted by a machine, we deserve the outcome. Voting should be done via paper ballots counted by two groups of three individuals (1-D, 1-R, 1-I) and then those numbers compared for accuracy. Sure, it might take an extra few days or even a week to get the results but at least we could have some semblance of confidence in them.
I don't trust a goddamn result from any of these insipid machines. If we can't trust the voting box, we'll be forced to trust in the cartridge box. I have FULL faith in my cartridge boxes. - inactive, on 02/06/2008, -1/+72Unbelievable.
They need to lose their license for producing these things.
Why switch from Paper ballots? They worked fine.
Diebold should be sued. - koicho, on 02/06/2008, -1/+59They spent all the money on security holes not key holes...
- bearsandbulls, on 02/06/2008, -1/+52Yeah, funnier. :(
- birdly, on 02/06/2008, -3/+49It is if nothing has been done to correct it....
- Dokument, on 02/06/2008, -1/+46Americas Funniest Home Voting.
- bearsandbulls, on 02/06/2008, -0/+32For the first time I had to put my ballot in a machine. I don't know if it was deibold, I tried to look for a mark, but it said something vague like Federal Voting Machine model 100.
I live in a town of about 20,000. It's a nice town, I bet 70% of the people vote in the primaries. But there was 20+ people working the voting center. WTF are we spending money on machines for? The polls are open all day they could easily hand count by tonight. Give me a week and I could do it my damn self. - Epik, on 02/06/2008, -1/+30Wow... This entire process is a joke. We're fussing about who to vote for but who makes sure our votes count? God this system is so ***** up.
I volunteer myself to sit and count votes, I don't care how long it takes. Let's have a live video feed and everything. - sjbdallas, on 02/06/2008, -1/+26Funnier and also non-existent in mainstream media which is very annoying.
- inactive, on 02/06/2008, -3/+25I hope not! I prefer the Constitutional Republic our FF gave us.
- PhilLesh69, on 02/06/2008, -0/+21oh. a year ago they reported that the voting machines are compromised. So there's nothing to worry about. Once it is reported, you can just forget about it.
Oh wait, they are using those machines NOW, TODAY.
it didn't HAPPEN, it is HAPPENING!! It will KEEP ON HAPPENING. - PhilLesh69, on 02/06/2008, -0/+17Really. Those are basically lock-box or filing cabinet keys. They can be picked with a metal nail file and a paperclip.
They need to get a bump-proof lock, like a medeco lock. Even if they were dumb enough to put a picture of one of the keys on their site, unless they put both sides up, it would be impossible to copy both the tumblers and the side-pin dimples.
But of course, Deibold is a business, and they just want to make money, they don't care what happens once they ship the voting machine. So they'd rather stick a 10 dollar lock from staples or office depot on their machines, instead of spending $200+ on a pick-proof, bump-proof lock. - kingmanic, on 02/06/2008, -1/+16It's not the machines so much as the corrupt implementer. An ATM does a just as critical a task with out as many problems. Diebolds parent makes ATM's too. So why didn't they copy over anything they learned from that industry into their machines? Because the company is run by highly corrupt individuals.
- kingmanic, on 02/06/2008, -0/+13why didn't they use a more sophisticated lock? There are keys that are nearly impossible to copy.
- danielplainview, on 02/06/2008, -5/+17Democracy doesn't just die, it Diebold
- ryland2, on 02/06/2008, -3/+15RTFA. This happened january 25th. 2007 - thats over a year ago...
- bearsandbulls, on 02/06/2008, -0/+11Never was, never will.
- georgemason01, on 02/06/2008, -0/+11Diebold should be destroyed.
- metapop, on 02/06/2008, -0/+10if anything, it should only highlight the fact that although it's been known for a year, nothing has been done about it. i'm ashamed of this government, this process of electing officials is a sham designed to keep us convinced that we actually have something to do with it.
- stalefries, on 02/06/2008, -2/+12Congratulations, you just sold your soul. :)
- castral, on 02/06/2008, -19/+29This is ***** old news.
- PhilLesh69, on 02/06/2008, -0/+10You're right. 10 cents.
I guess if a sniper can kill an enemy for 10 cents (the cost of his bullet), why can't we kill democratic elections for the same low low price? - natedouglas, on 02/06/2008, -2/+10Google ***** Image Search. How tough is it? Or *****, just have an IT guy photograph his mailbox key. FFS.
- kingmanic, on 02/06/2008, -0/+8You're forgetting. They aren't paying retail. It's not $10, it's $0.10.
- tgc1, on 02/06/2008, -0/+8Simple, they didn't give a *****. The contract they received meant they only had to deliver the goods, not deliver WORKING goods. If you knew how these contracts worked, then you'd see there was absolutely no incentive for Diebold to do a good job. They could have made all of those machines spontaneously combust, and they'd STILL get contracts up the yin-yang.
- PhilLesh69, on 02/06/2008, -1/+8Today is "super tuesday".
This would be like reposting a story about problems with electronic filing of federal tax returns from a year ago, on April 15th, you know? A reminder of how the whole electronic voting machine system is extremely compromised. - drgmdp, on 02/06/2008, -0/+7if an IT guy leaves confidential info in an environment from where it can leak to public domain, he obviously doesn't deserve that job..
- Vektuz, on 02/06/2008, -8/+15January 2007... old...
- Typhoon2009, on 02/06/2008, -1/+8Live Free or Diebold?
- TheAstronomer, on 02/06/2008, -0/+7At least it didn't say BREAKING:
- peterjmag, on 02/06/2008, -0/+7Indeed: http://digg.com/politics/Diebold_Posts_Image_of_Ma ...
- shortwaveradio, on 02/06/2008, -5/+12Yes they want to be hacked. By republicans.
- IronGoldfish, on 02/06/2008, -0/+6Well, to be fair, we've got a population smaller than California...
- TruthforAll, on 02/06/2008, -0/+6I actually had the option of paper ballot or machine when I voted today (Southern California)! Not very many people seemed to care one way or another though.. and most I saw went with the machine anyways.
- HueytheFreeman, on 02/06/2008, -1/+7Let's all comment about how the story is old instead of addressing the other issues with Diebold!
- StiGUP, on 02/06/2008, -2/+8someone give ron paul a copy just in CASE!
- tgc1, on 02/06/2008, -1/+6Its worth repeating.
- PhilLesh69, on 02/06/2008, -1/+6Yet current events often make old news NEW again.
If I were to question Bush's pre-emptive attack on Iraq, I bet you would bring up isolationists before World War II. That is old news, you know? Yet if you wanted to defend pre-emptive attacks, you'd probably say "Chamberlain tried to appease Hitler, England was chased from Dunkirk by Stuka dive bombers. Churchill took office and faced Hitler head on" (even though that doesn't have anything to do with attacking a sovereign nation, just not standing by while your allies and your own expeditionary forces are attacked.) BUT THAT IS OLD NEWS.
Castral, I take it you just want to feel comfortable at any expense. You resent anyone attempting to bring up the uncomfortable problems of our modern world. Unfortunately, these problems don't go away just because you deny them and call them old news. - PabloMac, on 02/06/2008, -1/+6No matter who "wins" the presidential election, the legitimacy of that election will always be in question.
I hate when that happens. - inactive, on 02/06/2008, -2/+7How come all of your posts end with something about shooting and killing people? It's enough to make a guy almost want more gun control.
- bearsandbulls, on 02/06/2008, -1/+6Video taping the whole process would cost a fraction of what the machines cost. Do it. Do it. Do it.
- catbeller, on 02/06/2008, -0/+5Canada does it that way, and they finish national election counts in three hours.
- PhilLesh69, on 02/06/2008, -2/+6Both parties work for the same masters. They both do everything in their power to manipulate the popular vote, from dropping whole groups of people from the roles, slashing "get out the vote" tires, slipping extra absentee ballots in or taking absentee ballots out, robo-calling people and misleading them to the wrong polling place on the other side of town, etc. This is just a new tool in their tool box, another way to disenfranchise more people from the voting process.
Since the parties are owned by the same master, and the candidates all "work" for these parties, they would prefer that only those who fully and wholeheartedly bought into their lies be able to vote. Free thinkers, independents and cynics tend to mess things up by voting their own true will rather than what the party wants them to vote. - PhilLesh69, on 02/06/2008, -0/+4too many just simply trust the system. It is too scary of a proposition to even contemplate that there could be something wrong, so to them it is just best to trust the system, damn the facts or the results.
- kss42, on 02/06/2008, -1/+5Until "olds" is made a word.
- RedHerringHack, on 02/06/2008, -2/+6Diebold is a bunch of ***** AMATURES. It's hilarious how inept their, and I use the term loosely, "engineers" are.
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