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- Napoleone, on 12/08/2007, -3/+103The "protecting the interrogators" story is such a sham. They did not need to destroy the tapes in order to achieve that. Even MTV has the technology to blur out a marijuana leaf or a logo.
I remember reading about the deaths of those Princes. Thirst??? Even Terri Schiavo lasted over a week without water, and she was in a coma. You gonna tell me a wealthy, healthy 25 year old is going to suddenly die of thirst? Those men were obviously assassinated; either to keep them quiet or out of revenge. The timing of their deaths and the access that would have been necessary in order to pull it off lead me to believe the former.
Michael Haden is Osama Bin-Laden West. The C.I.A. is an institution at war with itself, and the small good side isn't winning any of the battles. We're being lead by criminals. - Dukeye, on 12/08/2007, -11/+78Two-thirds of Americans are now in at least the LIHOP (let it happen on purpose) camp. The MSM still won't even acknowledge any of this. Two wars, each lasting longer than WWII, continue to be fought based on a terrorist act that was knowingly supported by elements of our government. Get outraged, then get active. Support 9/11 truth, support free media, support alternative energy, support free elections (with paper trail), support Ron Paul, stop supporting corporations and politicians who destroy our freedom, prosperity, environment, and soldiers. Our future is up to us, so let's bring freedom back to this land!
- iching, on 12/08/2007, -3/+63 Sen. Graham -- Bush Covered Up Saudi Involvement in 9/11
Wednesday 08 September 2004
The former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee tells Salon that the White House has suppressed convincing evidence that the Saudi royal family supported at least two of the hijackers.
As the Senate Intelligence Committee chairman during the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks and the run-up to the Iraq war, Sen. Bob Graham tried to expose what he came to believe were national security coverups and manipulations by the Bush administration. But he discovered that it was hard to reveal a coverup playing by the rules. Much of the evidence the Florida Democrat needed to buttress his arguments was being locked away, he found, under the veil of politically motivated classification.
My own personal conclusion was that the evidence of official Saudi support for at least two of the terrorists in San Diego was, as one CIA agent said,
I'm almost certain this was a prearranged meeting. Later, Bayoumi takes the two terrorists to San Diego, where he introduces them to people who arrange for them to obtain [phony] Social Security cards and flying lessons.
Did the White House specifically request classification of the section on the Saudis?
Technically, it was done by the CIA, but it was at the direction of the White House. I cannot tell you with 100 percent certainty, but I am 90 percent sure that was the case. The White House played a heavy role throughout not only our investigation but the investigation of the 9/11 commission.
http://www.16beavergroup.org/mtarchive/archives/00 ... - MEGAMERICAN, on 12/08/2007, -2/+55How about bomb nobody?
- tillerman00, on 12/09/2007, -4/+45Jesus Christ, when will the media bring attention to the elephant in the room: the underlying connections behind 9/11, the power, money, and greed that brought it about, and the Saudi-Pakastani-U.S. involvement in carrying it out. The media's coverage contains about as much reality as the tales of Mother Goose. Wake, naive children of America.
- JapaneseEconomy, on 12/09/2007, -2/+40There were more nations in the middle east that knew 9/11 was going to happen then that. I'm not going to say specifically which nation or I'll sound prejudice, but one of the defining moments I remember about 9/11 was watch a video broadcast across all the news agencies about 4 men standing on top of a van and videotaping the towers. When the planes hit they started cheering and dancing and laughing in joy. A women in her window in a nearly house though this was strange and video recorded them celebrating, then turned it over to the new york police.
Well later it was found out they worked for a certain nations intelligence agency and were sent there in disguise as a business to record 9/11 for documentary purposes.
They were eventually questioned and detained for several weeks, but then later forced to be release by pressure from some high level execs in the administration or CIA. - gmc360, on 12/08/2007, -0/+35No traction on this in MSM. The buzz there is that tapes destroyed to cover up torture tactics. Noce diversion
- bugsy187, on 12/09/2007, -0/+34Yep, I'm pretty sure that all of this is all worse than lying about a blowjob. Impeachment anyone?
- argoff, on 12/08/2007, -1/+31I don't know if it's true, but one thing is for sure. They set themselves up for these types of accusations by destroying the tapes.
- rperiod, on 12/09/2007, -6/+34So, so far...
Bush, private investors, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan were all aware of the 9/11 attacks before they occurred... completely believable. - iching, on 12/08/2007, -1/+25But all of digg's advertisements function fine.
- source1984, on 12/09/2007, -2/+26People here in the west don't understand the Saudis. You have to understand the king has A HUGE FAMILY. They marry up to 4 wives and have a lot of children and then that family expands. Secondly, the Saudis have a lot of money and PERSONAL saudi people give money to whomever they wish. If someone in the Bush family gives money to some extremist that DOESN'T MEAN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT was involved in the donation.
SECONDLY, everyone knew the attack was going to happen. Mossad knew. CIA knew. Cheney knew. For God's sakes, Cheney told the planes to stand down. I'm sorry people, but our government, THE U.S.A.., needed this attack to happen so they could go out on their big adventure in the middle east without looking ENTIRELY CRAZY. They needed something to happen. - inactive, on 12/09/2007, -1/+25The Hague should get ready for new trials of the century, coming soon
- williamdyer, on 12/09/2007, -4/+25Do you think the Israelis would, at least passively, collude in the deaths of 3000 Americans to advance their agenda?
You bet they would. You can take that to the bank. And some of them did. - paganmonkeyboy, on 12/09/2007, -1/+22considering the president even admits his job is to catapult the propaganda, rummy admitted we lost track of a trillion or 2 on 9 10, and haliburton just moved to dubai....i think it's safe to assume at this point that the hands at the wheel have anything but our best interests at heart...or am I just being paranoid by sticking to the known facts here, and not even engaging in speculation about the foreign agents filming the tower collapse...
- induren, on 12/09/2007, -4/+24I can see the future... Digg will tag this as 'possibly inaccurate.' Just give it a while.
- brinewr, on 12/09/2007, -3/+23Dude! Whacking an enemy that attacked you is fine by me, but I think that the issue we're all mad about is the simple fact that our President and our Government could have prevented this attack, but didn't. They were "in bed" with the attackers. If our President lied about this one and was culpable of standing by while we were attacked, that pisses me off!!! It also means that he's the worst traitor in the history of this country, YET, he's still the President.
You can understand that, right? - inactive, on 12/09/2007, -2/+21 There's already a solid link to the Pakistani ISI which has a long history with our own CIA. http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO206A.html
So far it looks like CIA, Mossad and ISI at the very least had a hand in the operation. The intelligence agencies not only work for their prospective countries but are also a proxy police force for the global establishment of bankers and drug dealers. In that respect they often work together even if the countries themselves may be in conflict. Especially with the drug dealing/money laundering. - felchdonkey, on 12/09/2007, -2/+20People are unhappy about the destruction of tapes, not the destruction of terrorists. Work on your reading comprehension.
- inactive, on 12/09/2007, -1/+19The Office of White House Legal Counsel told the CIA not to destroy the tapes. The CIA's own lawyers told the CIA not to destroy the tapes. What do you know about the law that they don't?
- krnldmp, on 12/09/2007, -3/+20This article isn't about a little group of people for you to focus your football season aggravation upon . It's about state supported terrorism.
- Damian91, on 12/09/2007, -1/+17How can these people live with themselves, what were they in 4th grade thinking "hey, I want to be an ***** when I grow up."
- SeethisPass, on 12/09/2007, -0/+14Intelligence gained through torture is designed to return a false outcome, any outcome you demand.
When all is said and done the globalist faction within America imported the " terrorists" and paid a bonus to those who facilitated their visas, Mary Ryan and Thomas Furey .
The CFR CEO Peter G.Peterson funded the trade tower transaction because the Port Authority needed to have them "accidented" which played into the hands of PNAC, Bushco, and globalists who expected to eventually rule the world because of these acts on 9/11. Bob Graham and Porter Goss funded Mahmoud Ahmad who ordered that the "terrorists" be paid as they trained and awaited their orders. Ahmad's Pakistani ISI a partner of our CIA was the go between for our funding to the terrorists
On the morning 11 September, 2001, Goss and Graham were having breakfast in the nations Capitol Building with General Mahmoud Ahmad.[9][10] Ahmad's network had ties to Osama bin Laden and directly funded, al Qaeda
http://tinyurl.com/k7z9m
http://www.nndb.com/people/425/000044293/
Ahmad who met repeatedly with our CIA in the week of 9/11 had his underling Ahmad Umar Sheikh sign the checks that funded Mohammed Atta and his counterparts. Since the attacks the bush adminisration has fought doggedly to hide these facts .
Here's the cover story minus the fact of the check signed by Ahmad's employee.
Associated Press item dated May 30, 2002
"The morning of Sept. 11, Sen. Bob Graham and Rep. Porter Goss were
doing what the two intelligence committee chairmen frequently do -
having breakfast together at the Capitol. With them was then-Pakistani
intelligence chief [Mahmud Ahmad]. [General Ahmad's] task was to
persuade Afghanistan's Taliban leaders to hand over terror suspect
Osama bin Laden. As the three men talked over the knotty problem, an
aide handed Goss a note saying an airplane had hit the World Trade
Center. A few moments later the Capitol would be evacuated, and the
following month [General Ahmad] was fired." - inactive, on 12/09/2007, -0/+14the entire Bush family and the entire Bush administration from 2000-now should be arrested immediately
- williamdyer, on 12/09/2007, -0/+14That would be "mass-murdering *****." Really, the whole neocon movement is like Naziism or Stalinism or Pol Pot's regime: a cancer on the Planet that should be cut out, burned out, whatever it takes to remove it and destroy it.
- Groovemaster, on 12/09/2007, -0/+13Has been since 2001.
- skews13, on 12/09/2007, -0/+13when it gets to the hague.please call me for jury duty
- RandomGorilla, on 12/09/2007, -1/+14Raise your hand if you already saw this "revelation" coming from a mile away...
- cipher64, on 12/09/2007, -3/+16People on digg actually are a bit stupid. Pakistani military, ISI and the Afghans helped the US bring down their biggest enemy the USSR. Once that mission was accomplished the US abandoned them. The Afghans were left with a warn torn country and all their infra structure gone. Whole generations were brought up who know nothing but war. Their are no jobs no optimism for the future, the extremists provide them with food and money. What else do you think they are going to do. The US then goes ahead and invades another Islamic country spending billions on that mission. Had the US spent that money to build up Afghanistan after the war there would have been no Al-Qaeda. And now the blame is on Pakistan and Saudia. The Pakistani president had 3 attacks on his life their is a sorts of a civil war going in the northern Pakistan. What else do you expect them to do? Remember Aimal Kansi, he was the guy who killed FBI agents and escaped to Pakistan. The US authorities had him recovered from Pakistan within months. Do you really think they are having such a hard time capturing Osama? The US had two buildings destroyed and a few thousand people killed. Have you tried finding out how many innocent civilians have died in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan for your war on terror. Seriously what reality are you living in?
- AnarchoGoth, on 12/09/2007, -0/+12Interesting, but you have to remember that intelligence gained through torture is notoriously unreliable.
There is much better evidence out there that Saudi Arabia is the country we should be concerned with, like say that 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, and that Wahabiism is taught in Saudi Arabian schools. - krnldmp, on 12/09/2007, -2/+14no
- inactive, on 12/09/2007, -2/+13I suspect a mighty wind is what fills the space between your ears.
- Starch, on 12/09/2007, -0/+11Right... The 9/11 Commission investigated the allegations, and it was explained away as "coincidental".. Give me a break.
- Groovemaster, on 12/09/2007, -6/+17"I know damn well what brought down the towers"
You mean you have an opinion, which many people believe to be incorrect. - peretti, on 12/08/2007, -2/+13Yeah, I can't shout either. Have not been able to shout for two weeks now.
- Groovemaster, on 12/09/2007, -0/+11I think you need to look up the word "ignorant".
- williamdyer, on 12/09/2007, -0/+11The snopes article does not list WHO sold the airlines short. It also just asserts that the 9/11 commission, which is itself now discredited, found the activity "innocuous." Trades are easy to trace. WHO did this should be widely known. Yet it isn't.
- inactive, on 12/09/2007, -0/+10Hague Here We Come!
- iching, on 12/08/2007, -12/+22Can one of my friends group shout this?
Digg is impossible this morning, I've tried Camino, Safari and Opera and have limited things I can do. I don't want to download another browser. Even this submission told me I got errors from the digg site. - DangerCollie, on 12/09/2007, -2/+12Is there anyone who doesn't know the Saudis have been supporting groups providing...still providing...the majority of the really hard core terrorists? The Bush family owes their fortunes to the Saudi Royal family. Bush let the Bin Laden family leave the country in the wake of 9-11 without being interviewed by the FBI. That still hasn't happened. Not only do they supply us with the oil Jethro needs to put in his monster pickup truck but they spend a lot of our dollars buying sophisticated weapons systems from us.
If we were really serious about going after terrorists, we would be invading Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. - inactive, on 12/09/2007, -1/+11That's ***** up. Gerald Posner is legit. Former Cravath associate.
- Napoleone, on 12/09/2007, -1/+11Why play the relativism game? That only injects partisan politics into what should be a non-partisan debate. And Clinton did plenty wrong that had nothing to do with getting his dick sucked.
Both Republicans and Democrats are giving the People, the Constitution and the Rule of Law the shaft. - Groovemaster, on 12/09/2007, -1/+10If you mean that it's being suggested that all private investors plus everyone in Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan were aware of the attacks before they occurred, nobody is suggesting that.
Interesting attempt at a strawman argument, though. We see a lot of those here on Digg. - inactive, on 12/09/2007, -0/+9If you ever read personal accounts of what Dubya was like as a young man, "I wanna be an ***** when I grow up" pretty much sums it up. See e.g. http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0406,mondo1,50942 ...
- hiphoc, on 12/09/2007, -0/+9True, the shoot down orders used to come from the air force generals. Early in 2001 either Cheney or Rummy took control of the shoot down orders. Instead of 6 minutes, it took 2 hours for fighters to get into the air and the ones that did get into the air were directed to fly in circles over the atlantic ocean. Richard Meyers head of the Air Force got a promotion out of that one.
- sanman, on 12/09/2007, -0/+9Heheh, read this part:
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It would be nice to further investigate the men named by Zubaydah, but that is not possible. All four identified by Zubaydah are now dead. As for the three Saudi princes, the King's 43-year-old nephew, Prince Ahmed, died of either a heart attack or blood clot, depending on which report you believe, after having liposuction in Riyadh's top hospital; the second, 41-year-old Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki al-Saud, died the following day in a one car accident, on his way to the funeral of Prince Ahmed; and one week later, the third Saudi prince named by Zubaydah, 25-year-old Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud al-Kabir, died, according to the Saudi Royal Court, "of thirst." The head of Pakistan's Air Force, Mushaf Ali Mir, was the last to go. He died, together with his wife and fifteen of his top aides, when his plane blew up -- suspected as sabotage -- in February 2003. Pakistan's investigation of the explosion -- if one was even done -- has never been made public.
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Haha, what, nobody got read their Miranda rights? No phonecall to a lawyer? ;) - brinewr, on 12/09/2007, -2/+10Holy *****!
- DooM, on 12/09/2007, -0/+8Yes, you see - you blur a copy and THEN destroy the original. Is that you, Brownie??
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