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- thegsa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Democrats Hold Double-Digit Lead in Competitive Districts"
Well, Not if Diebold has Something to say about it! - unkieLolo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Was that a joke? This is no small time blogger. Pew Research Center is one of the biggest, most reputable political polling groups around. "Larger news sites" get their stuff from these guys (if they're smart).
- kenvsryu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Vote! Don't let the news tell you who will win, decide.
- successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@alteal
As a fellow "conservative", I think this country doesn't NEED another 4-6 years of the present so called "conservatives" that we have in power at the moment. America needs to rid itself of this "conservative" party that has been hijacked. When that happens, I will once again vote republican.
As for your statement about raising taxes, I'd simply point you to a VERY basic fact of life in these United States. We are Spending Spending Spending, and borrowing borrowing borrowing to a very dangerous point. We are, and have been, being "taxed" to death on every manner of things at this point already. We are in an inflation, and we are at an extremely dangerous point in America's future when it pertains to debt and our spending. Who's fault is that? It certainly isn't the "libruls" fault, and you would be hard pressed to prove so.
I've got terrible news for you.
1) AMERICA needs to start thinking like AMERICANS, instead of a "party". If that means that "we" as a "conservative" party need to learn a lesson and get kicked in the ass for letting this administration and Congress get away with the last 6 years, then SO BE IT, for AMERICA. We are, Americans...First.
2) Taxes......are going to HAVE to be raised, not matter which "party" is in charge. Reality comes into play here. This is a SIMPLE fact of life, since we cannot continue to borrow and spend without facing reality. Our govt isn't going to pay it off, are they? Of course not....
Furthermore....I'd like to see you show proof that "90 percent of the MSM" are democrats. That's a lie, and it's being perpetuated consistently. REALITY certainly points to having a complacent, asleep MSM in America these days that doesn't ask questions but parrots the admin's stance. - duzytata, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Just like "larger news sites" had Kerry picked for the 2004 elections eh? Polls, are BS. Go out there and vote, and you decide who wins.
- addrake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4A partying drunk Democrat ? Do you guys do anything else ?
I'm kidding, i'm kidding ! - mattman59, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If this is true it will be good for the nation.
- jonnydobad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I guessed at that meaning, it is just a stupid title that has no meaning. If the writers used a little more sense they would have used a better title.
- successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What will happen is we will have America to continue down the same BS path if that happens. No thanks....
- vezquex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, they're not very competitive anymore. Headline should read, "Democrats Hold Double-Digit Leads in (Previously) Republican Districts".
- OriginalLucid1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Most polls are simply attempts to sway opinion, one way or another. The media presents a story, hammers the hell out of it, then produces a "poll" to prove the folks agree with them. I think if Mark twain where alive today he would amend his famous saying to this....There are three kinds of lies....lies, damn lies and public opinion polls.
- cramtod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1addrake> Myself, I only trust non-biased sources
Biased organizations are fine. It's when such organizations issue biased "reports" or "findings" that problems arise. Issuing an _opinion_ based on unbiased research is fine providing we can all look at the original data and method of data collection and argue the meaning. When an opinion of an organization is based on flawed/biased data collection is when problems arise. - jonnydobad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How can you put the same words together in a sentence, double-digit lead and competitive district? Doesn't a double-digit lead mean that the race isn't competitive. I can trust a source that uses such a nonsense title about as much as I can trust a politician.
- bushy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm quite conflicted about this. Bush is terrible, of course, but the Democratic leadership is just not up to snuff. They will cave under media pressure and not investigate the administration, let alone try to impeach. Moreover, they will also be an incredibly useful foil for Repubs, they will be damned for everything, they will not challenge it, and media will buy it.
But if they lose, not only are the Dems guaranteed the White House in '08, but it will instigate a regime change within the party. - successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Analyze..
THAT race was called CLOSE from the get go.
Tell you what clown, the "libs" will stop "measuring the curtains", when YOU can start living in the reality of the NOW, not 2004...
It's not your Daddy's 2004 anymore....ding ding wake up.... - Brutis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3the above comment is a firm reason why this article is false, lol
- jonnydobad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@successrealm,
I agree that the way our government has been going will lead to a higher tax burden, but it shouldn't be!
It is very hard to say what exactly should be done without pissing everyone off. Personally i feel that the government is in place to protect life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, nothing more (particularly the Federal government, we were designed as a republic in order to give states the right to address most everything else). Therefore, I feel that the federal government should really only be concerned with protecting our country (military, boarder security, intelligence, and similar functions). If they would be restricted to these basic tasks and let the states handle the rest we would eliminate the double dipped spending habits (Federal Departments->State Departments->Local Officials all skimming money off in order to fund bloated bureaucracies... schools are one example of this that is completely unacceptable, close to half of the dollars appropriated by the Feds for education are spent on complete BS rather than on better teachers and facilities).
I am pressed for time right now, in a few hours I'll be back to continue my rant on how to control spending. - successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0baaaaa
It's nice of you to give us your teenage rendition of reality based on 2004...
Gonna step in the REALITY based community anyday now clown? - jonnydobad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pelosi has already stated that she won't push for impeachment.
I don't really see any reason for impeachment, Bush has done nothing illegal. You may not agree with his ethics, but as far as the law is concerned he has not broken it. Congress approved the Iraq war a continues to fund it (including most Democrats). The wiretap program has precedent dating back decades (Clinton used the same program). Everything that people state as being illegal is much more of an ethical issue which is not impeachable. Clinton was not impeached for his unethical actions (who really cared if he slept with an intern, he had been adulterous since he was governor in Arkansas and everyone already knew that), but for perjury in a sexual harassment suit (Paula Jones) which was illegal. - successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oops should have put this here...
Agreed very much jonny. I should have clarified the debt/deficit issue.
"Yet tax increases are precisely what will be in store if some control is not imposed on runaway federal spending. If entitlements are not reformed and the American welfare state continues to assume new unsustainable responsibilities, we will endure high tax rates and low levels of private sector dynamism that resemble the stagnant welfare states of Europe. Republicans will not be able to continue credibly cutting taxes as entitlement programs on autopilot threaten to bankrupt the nation
If both parties remain committed to increased spending, the likeliest result is once again higher taxes."
http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/2003/antle/qtr2/0603.htm
I'm very interested in this convo with you, and would like to hear more on your thoughts of how to return us to fiscal responsibility ( I fully understand the "entitlements" issue, from both sides of the aisle) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@succesrealm: Let me congratulate you on surviving a Democratic birth. Sadly, it has left you with little sense of reality so I pity your brainless comments. But you go ahead on thinking your delusions of Democratic grandeur. Enjoy your defeat and have a nice day.
- jonnydobad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@successrealm
I don't get what you say. Raising taxes does not mean more money for the government to pay off debt. Typically higher taxes lead to lower taxable income, often due to more aggressive deductions, off-shoring, lower employment levels, and lower investment. Paying off our debt isn't really a big priority of any economist, reducing/eliminating our deficit is the priority. Considering that our deficit this year is projected to be about $250 billion (or about 1.9% of GDP) we are on the right track. Cutting funding for stupid projects like much of the pork that ends up in appropriation bills would solve that deficit problem. I will agree that the government has had a policy of taxes, spending, borrowing, and spending more. At times this policy in not bad, just take last year for example. We had the larges natural disaster in history, are involved in fighting a war, and had a slowly recovering economy. Under those circumstances a modest deficit would be appropriate (the deficit was higher than it should have been). Next year, if we don't raise our budget by more than inflation, we will have a surplus. If the government would quit utilizing pork (it won't no matter who is in power), examine projects more carefully (it never will), and just have more responsibility (this is my only hope) our debt will not be a problem ever. The current debt service payments that our government incurs are not all that out of line with most of recent history. Interest expense as a percentage of GDP is about as low as it has been since the 1970's. It has gone up slightly over the past couple of years due to the recession and military spending, but in percentage terms only 1/4-1/2% of GDP. I don't have an exact figure for you but by looking at a graph used in a macro-economics course I am taking the trend is that interest expense is going down in real terms in relation to GDP (approximately 2-3% of GDP today compared with about 5% in 1990, and 2-3% in 2000). Absolute numbers are never a very reliable method (although these are the numbers that the press and politicians always use) of looking at economic data because inflation and economic growth are not considered. If you extrapolate that further and about 30% of GDP goes to taxes, then about 8% of our taxes go to interest payments. - daedpid1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@addrake
Then you must trust now one. - successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Agreed very much jonny. I should have clarified the debt/deficit issue.
"Yet tax increases are precisely what will be in store if some control is not imposed on runaway federal spending. If entitlements are not reformed and the American welfare state continues to assume new unsustainable responsibilities, we will endure high tax rates and low levels of private sector dynamism that resemble the stagnant welfare states of Europe. Republicans will not be able to continue credibly cutting taxes as entitlement programs on autopilot threaten to bankrupt the nation
If both parties remain committed to increased spending, the likeliest result is once again higher taxes."
http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/2003/antle/qtr2/0603.htm
I'm very interested in this convo with you, and would like to hear more on your thoughts of how to return us to fiscal responsibility ( I fully understand the "entitlements" issue, from both sides of the aisle) - successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Either way, America is fed up. People have already made up their mind, and seeing a "poll" is not going to "sway" them.
polls reflect.
The "media" isn't presenting the story as you say, they are telling the events. (or they should unlike Fox, where the "opinions" of the story, ARE the story)
When Foley, Hastert, Bush, Frist, etc say or do things, it is their actions that are recorded and shown to America. The "media" isn't presenting anything other than reality.
The polls represent how America feels, and the Awakening going on.... - successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Johnny how do you suggest America gets back on track with it's funds? Can we continue to owe China?
If we are not going to stop spending and borrowing, then WHO is going to eventually pay for this? - jonnydobad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@successrealm
"Taxes are going to have to be raised"
I don't see this, if our deficit is one of the lowest percentages of GDP in history than why do taxes need to be raised? Taxes discourage growth, lead to job destruction, and hurt the economy. I will agree that the government should limit its borrowing, but not by raising taxes. If it would be more fiscally responsible and waste money on stupid projects it would rarely need to borrow money.
When taxes are raised (particularly on the upper-middle class) small business owners want to keep their take home pay the same. They then fire employees or don't hire more. They will maximize the use of lower wages and overtime in order to keep productivity high. Raising taxes is the worst thing a government can do for an economy. - Meadow113, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If the democrats take both houses, I am going to get drunker than you.
- jonnydobad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@alteal
I second your vote for Charlie to go. - addrake, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3The Pew Charitable Trusts is left leaning and politically aligned nonprofit organization based in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, with an office in Washington, D.C., that is the successor to seven individual charitable funds established between 1948 and 1979 by two sons and two daughters of Sun Oil Company founder Joseph N. Pew and his wife, Mary Anderson Pew. The trusts' current mission is to serve the public interest by providing information, advancing policy solutions and supporting civic life.
-From wikipedia
-Myself, I only trust non-biased sources - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2we'll see what happens come two weeks when the republicans take the majority in congress and the senate.
- gtiness, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Well, the Democratic candidate doesn't have a two digit lead in my district (NY-24).
From the site: "In addition to sampling error, one should bear in mind that question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of opinion polls."
When a pollster called my house, and my wife answered, she didn't answer the questions truthfully because she was curious to see where her answers would "lead the questioner". I wouldn't have done that but, I'm sure many other people do the same thing.
I've taken part in numerous studies on a variety of topics using human subjects...when conducting surveys...truth is a huge problem. Subjects notoriously misreport. - Brutis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2seriously how did this get dugg? maybe if cnn or nbc or someone posted statistics i would half way believe it. This makes dems look desperate making up stuff, its sad.
- Meadow113, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2@addrake,
you do know that wipiedia can be changed by virtually anyone with a computer, right? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Pew called the 2004 presidentail race 49 / 49 (Bush / Kerry). Bush won by 3%. They don't exactly have the best record. Hey Democrats, stop measuring the curtains. You haven't won anything yet. The only poll that matters is Nov. 7th.
Source: http://66.102.7.104/u/peoplepress?q=cache:2szbclOjvV4J:people-press.org/reports/tables/229.pdf+kerry+bush+poll&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8 - successrealm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0It means, that in a usually competitive district, the dems hold a double digit lead.....
- marklj, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I only trust larger news sites for something with complex statistics like this. This is meaningless from a small-time blogger.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Ever since the elections of November 2000, most of the pre-election polling by the big pollsters heavily favored Democrats. This may be due to the demographics of those polled or the wording of the questions or something else but those polls were mostly wrong. Since ninety percent or more of those in the main-stream-media are Democrats, they tend to play up every piece of data that favors their party. They also hope to convince Republican voters to stay home on Election Day because the polls say that the Democrats are so far ahead, the Republicans can’t win.
If all conservative-minded people get out and vote on November 7th, Republicans will maintain majorities in both houses of Congress and we will get more conservative judges and justice. There may be another special prize. Congressman Charles Rangel (D-NY), the hoped-to-be chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee has promised to repeal the Bush tax-cuts. He will increase current taxes and add new ones. He also said that he would resign if his party didn’t take back the House. We need to test his resolve. I vote for Charlie to go. - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Let's see 'em steal this one. It ain't going to be 50/50 this time and everyone knows it.
Oh don't worry, I'm voting alright. So are all my progressive friends.
When sanity once again prevails with a Democratic Majority in both houses, I'm going to have a party and get stinkin' drunk. It will be one of the happiest days for me in the last 5 years. - cramtod, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0sadf
- elebrio, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4I think http://realclearpolitics.com is a slightly better gauge. The old adage "all elections are local" comes to mind after reading this article. The general view of the Republican party may not necessarily trump the electorate's view of their local candidates. I guess we'll find out after the election.


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