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Dem Senator: Mukasey won't rein in 'King' George

rawstory.com — "According to the last attorney general (Bush) was king, and maybe this one believes the same thing, he can do whatever he wants to," Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin said. "But even in 1215, the King of England was held to the standard of habeas corpus. I guess we want to turn the clock back to before the Magna Carta."

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  • greenback1, on 11/10/2007, -4/+22Harkin delivers absolute and frightening Truth. This Administration and Congress are forcing an End Game against the American public. They're armed and dangerous. We are massive and courageous.
  • mrcoderga, on 11/10/2007, -4/+15Ahh, a Senator decries publicly the coming of the end of the constitutional republic, and the rise of the empire.

    Too little, too late? Did other constitutional republics in the 20th century or earlier follow this same pattern too?
  • inactive, on 11/10/2007, -2/+10Mukasey refused to answer the question "do American citizens have the right to habeus corpus?"
    On the other hand Harkin must love the electoral process, being given a chance to spout inflammatory rhetoric on the floor of the Senate and not being called on it because the other side is afraid to have a serious debate.
  • Raerth, on 11/10/2007, -0/+6"NO Freeman shall be taken or imprisoned, or be disseised of his Freehold, or Liberties, or free Customs, or be outlawed, or exiled, or any other wise destroyed; nor will We not pass upon him, nor condemn him, but by lawful judgment of his Peers, or by the Law of the Land. We will sell to no man, we will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right."

    First English, then also American law, for almost 800 years. R.I.P.
  • ZenMojo, on 11/10/2007, -2/+6American Education = EPIC PHAIL
  • spyd3rweb, on 11/10/2007, -0/+4Screw paying for it, get it off torrent.
  • locojones, on 11/10/2007, -0/+4Right, let's take Wikipedia as gospel, that's why the world is in decline.

    How about a real source, like, oh, the BBC? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4329839.stm

    And I quote: "Sir William Blackstone, who wrote his famous Commentaries on the Laws of England in the 18th Century, recorded the first use of habeas corpus in 1305. But other writs with the same effect were used in the 12th Century, so it appears to have preceded Magna Carta in 1215."

    ...

    The article goes on to mention, "It is thought to have been common law by the time of Magna Carta, which says in Article 39: "No freeman shall be taken or imprisoned or disseised or exiled or in any way destroyed, nor will we go upon him nor will we send upon him except upon the lawful judgement of his peers or the law of the land.""
  • inactive, on 11/10/2007, -1/+4Tiberius Gracchus 2100 years later.......
  • ZenMojo, on 11/10/2007, -1/+4I'll wait for it come out on DVD.
  • YourDoom123, on 11/10/2007, -0/+3i don't understand how these people can just refuse to answer a question like that... it's in the ***** constitution, spelled out word for word! even if you are just a lackey, you have to have some self-respect don't you?
  • GuacamoleSan, on 11/10/2007, -2/+5Too little, too late? What will Bush do? Will he destroy America? What horrors will unfold! Turn in next week for the shocking conclusion on, America! The series
  • spyd3rweb, on 11/10/2007, -2/+4You cant even spell right you moron.
  • spenix, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2Since waterboarding is not torture, could I do it to my dog or would that constitute cruelty to animals?
  • ipodman715, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2I was at the British Library and saw the Magna Carta in person. Impressive document.
  • spyd3rweb, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2In before epic fail guy.
  • crapmatic, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2/internet tough guy

    Back to our iPods!
  • spenix, on 11/10/2007, -0/+2To quote The Who's song Won't get fooled again~"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
  • banq59, on 11/10/2007, -1/+3I felt proud that there are still eloquent, passionate people in this world fighting for justice. Amazing speech.
  • heystoopid, on 11/10/2007, -1/+2Oh well it looks like Jose Padilla times 280 million has finally arrived on the scene !
  • inactive, on 11/12/2007, -2/+3You mean like when Janet Reno didn't reign in Bill Clinton -- even when he slaughtered 80 men, women and children at Waco?
  • inactive, on 11/10/2007, -0/+1OK, I am a Ron Paul supporter. But, I do not think it is beneficial to mindlessly post the same comments everywhere. If you want to talk about Ron Paul at least keep it relevant to the story people are commenting on, otherwise it just looks like spam.
  • AdamGeld, on 11/10/2007, -1/+2I encourage everyone to educate themselves about Ron Paul's views and opinions. If he is the candidate for president that you would like to support, please check out the campaign website. www.ronpaul2008.com/join

    December 16th, the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party and birth of the American Revolution, is our next major fundraiser event. If Ron Paul is the candidate for you, please donate whatever you wish on that day through the campaign website. Tell your family and friends. www.teaparty07.com
  • inactive, on 11/10/2007, -0/+1Its only not torture if the President does it, duh!!!
  • inactive, on 11/12/2007, -1/+2Do you realize how pathetic your comment is? "B-b-b-but Clinton" is over. Move on.
  • MikeFallopian, on 11/10/2007, -0/+0A flawless analogy, since the Roman economic and political structure at that time was identical to ours. Oh wait...
  • mikesbaker, on 11/10/2007, -2/+2its mean to be condescending spelling it wrong
  • MikeFallopian, on 11/10/2007, -3/+1What are you going to do about this imminent "end game"? Sit at your computer and post furiously on conspiracy websites? If I believed that the government was about to plunge the US into the dark ages (I emphatically don't believe this), I'd up be up in arms...
  • XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 11/10/2007, -5/+2Wow, I guess I'll be a ***** sheep and believe whatever an article says even though it cites no source. Moron.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus#History ...
    First recorded use: habeas corpus ad subjiciendum in 1305

    Dumbass.
  • XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 11/10/2007, -9/+2I swear, there's one of these comments in every thread.
  • mikesbaker, on 11/10/2007, -11/+2ug end game - go away troofer
  • XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 11/10/2007, -12/+3If you can cite examples where the King of England was held to the concept of Habeas Corpus, I'll believe you.

    And does the title make sense for anyone?

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