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- CloakandSwagger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+48I don't know much about where Kinky stands on other issues, but he's making a whole lot of sense on this one.
Goes to show we still have some cool mofos down in the south. - AliceLillie, on 10/12/2007, -5/+48Friedman's marijuana ideas make a great deal of sense. In fact this is the only thing that does make any sense.
To ban a plant that grows just about anywhere because of a mild intoxication effect is preposterous, especially in the light of the history of marijuana prohibition. There was this book that I bought from a NORML booth in Venice, CA back in the '90's called something like The Emperor Wears No Clothes. Get it.
And, as most people know by now, the medicinal benefits of cannibis have been proven over and over. It helps cancer patients with the nausea caused by their medications, helping them keep their pills down. It does much more than that for some critically ill patients. Even the establishment is reluctantly allowing baby steps towards it's medical use in some states.
My own personal opinion (and I am neither a medical or recreational user as I have no need for any drugs) is that all laws prohibiting, restricting, regulating or taxing cannibis or hemp should be repealed forthwith.
Individuals own their bodies and their lives. They are a gift from God to individuals. The government has no proper stake at all.
Medical marijuana patient Steve Kubby was instrumental in getting Prop. 215 on the California ballot and passed and then ran for governor of California in 1998. He nearly died as a result of constant legal harassment since.
Now, Kubby has announced that he will seek the Libertarian Party's nomination for President in 2008.
I, Alice Lillie, aka anti-Bush Alice, wholeheartedly endorse Steve Kubby.
Learn more at http://www.Myspace.com/stevekubby . If that doesn't work, link to him through my own Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/alicelillie (and see my blog while you're there!). - jfreeman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25He proposes securing our border from all illegal entry by paying 5 Mexican generals to enforce it any way they see fit, and to cut funding for athletic programs in schools, saying that companies like Nike can pay for it if they want teams to use their products.
I like him for those positions and the fact that he's not a career politician. The reality is he stands little chance of winning. - RatherDashing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21In NY it is already decriminalized. If you are caught with less than one oz (little more than 28 grams) in one bag, they will just take it away from you and write you a $50 ticket and send you on your merry way (well not so merry, you just lost $250 of bud and got a $50 ticket). The problem comes with a) having the marijuana in plain sight b) carrying it in two or more bags, or having empty bags in the region of the marijuana c) handing the marijuana to another party or d) smoking it, then you are in trouble.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense but its better than most states.....
I'll give you one guess as to how I know all of this...and I'm not a lawyer or a cop ;) - mrgreen4242, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21"We should not have to wear seat belts in vehicles."
There is actually an argument against that one that makes some sense. Getting in a car wreck w/o you safetly belt isn't going to kill 100% of the time, or even close to it with modern vehicles. It is going to hurt you very, very badly, though. In which case your insurance pays the bills and the money for this comes from all the insured people with that company... since the state requires you to have insurance to drive a car they should be allowed to take reasonable steps to keep the cost of insurance down as much as possible.. in this case by requiring seat belts.
Personally, I think you should be allowed to not wear a seat belt if you chose, but if you are pulled over for some other offense and you're not wearing it, or if an officer observes you not wearing it, you don't get a fine they just send a notice to your insurance co. and they are required to impose an additional 'unsafe driver' fee on your bill which pays into a statewide fund to help cover the cost of medical care for people in auto accidents. But that's just me. - wozley, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Decriminalize marijuana? Do you even know the consequences!?!
1. Slow drivers.
2. Cheetos, Funions, and Dorito prices will rise.
3. Skateboard lanes on roads will be a necessity.
4. Fire safety will be paramount.
5. Another Cheech & Chong movie.
Do you REALLY want that? - Foenetik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16For those unfamiliar with Kinky here's a little insight as to how he thinks:
EDUCATION:
"I think we're 48th in funding for public education. The only states below us are West Virginia, New Mexico and Arkansas. That means Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi are ahead of us. When Mississippi is ahead of you, you've got a problem."
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT:
"We're No. 1 in only one thing - executions. I'm not anti-death penalty. But I'm damned sure anti-the-wrong-guy-getting-executed."
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS:
"People are nervous. They're afraid to say 'Merry Christmas'. Afraid to light up a cigar. We didn't get to be the Lone Star State by being politically correct. America's last stand is Texas...I want to take things back to a time when cowboys all sang and their horses were smart. I'm looking to evoke an older, richer spirit of Texas. I'm going to fight this wussification of Texas if I have to do it one wuss at at time."
RELIGION:
"I'm not really a charismatic atheist. I have Jesus and Moses in my heart. They were both independents, by the way".
DRUG ABUSE:
"Us Jews have had cocaine around for thousands of years. We call it HORSERADISH...I admire people who struggle with their demons and conquer them.
CHESS:
"Willie [Nelson] and I play, on his [tour] bus, usually. He's very good and very fast. An instinctive player. Of course, you need to wear scuba gear to avoid the second-hand-smoke."
CAMPAIGN SPENDING:
"More than $100 million was spent in the last gubernatorial race by the two candidates for a job that pays $115,000. That smells fishy to most of us. Something is wrong with that picture. I've always said a fool and his money are soon elected. But not this time around. The guy with the most money shouldn't always win." - TheBarge, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14@dclowd9901
If it was legal, you could always just grow it yourself for free. Oh yeah. - LoungeActx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11He's not talking about legalizing it. He's talking about decriminalizing it. Making it so that if you get caught you basically pay a fine instead of going to jail.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15"Individuals own their bodies and their lives. They are a gift from God to individuals. The government has no proper stake at all."
So...
We should also not be penalized for trying to kill ourselves.
We should not have to wear seat belts in vehicles.
Its our bodies, we should do what ever we want with them. - wozley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11That'll make another Austrailia.
- Jawood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Hell, just make legal. I don't see any reason why pot is illegal. Alcohol is much more toxic to the body, so it's not health reasons; there hasn't been any research that backs up the premise that pot leads to other drugs....I think it's illegal because there's some groups out there who just don't like it.
There was an editorial in yesterday's Wall Street Journal by a cop who thinks drugs should be made legal. It would also stop the innocent people who gunned down by gangs AND police - look up "No Knock Warrants".... - spellbin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"Marijuana is not a drug. I've sucked dick for cocaine, you ever suck dick for marijuana? NO! I didnt think so!" - Bob Saget in Half Baked (probibly misquoted)
- Libberkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Here's some advice from Steve Kubby about how to protect yourself from people who would want to harm you (not thugs; the police!).
http://www.libertyforall.net/?p=94 - fjacky66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9yes...
- lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@mrgreen4242
That makes too much damn sense. Somebody get this guy outta here. - lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Yeah, you can grow tobacco yourself if you want to for personal use too, it's just that nobody does it.
- bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Since when do people steal to buy weed? I have never heard of anyone ever say they stole to buy weed.
To quote bob sagat, "Did you ever suck @$%# for weed?" - rancemo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9You're mostly being misled. I have read that several studies have shown no physical addiction to pot (you won't get the shakes or get sick if you quit smoking). There are obviously people that make it a bad habit though. Some habits are hard to break!
- eggo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It's a nickname, his given name is Richard.
Even better is his campaign slogan;
Vote for Kinky: Why the hell not?
He's got my vote. - BigBaRay, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I support you on this Kinky. I am as Conservative as they come and I'll go to the line with anybody about G.W.B, but this is one issue that makes sense.
- omnithought, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Better than meth-addled tweekers driving like it's a race track.
- lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8George Carlin did a great bit about making whole states a prison system.
Colorado and Wyoming (because they are square and easy to fence off).
He said put sex offenders in one state and all other violent offenders in the other state.
Then make a gate on the border that opens once a week for one hour, and film it and make it a reality TV show.
Genius. - Foenetik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I've met Kinky and he's a good man,hopefully he can get the votes.
- bntphoretwunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7go kinky
- rancemo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"He did say that he doesn't favor making marijuana legally available for purchase."
That's dumb! Why decriminalize, then leave the black market that is mostly at the root of the problem? Put it in the liquor and drug stores, and maybe put a few standards in place for manufacturing, processing, and selling... Everyone would know what they are buying, what it contains, and where it came from.... It would also make it dirt cheap, so people wouldn't need to steal to buy it. - asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I hope you're right but what makes me lose hope is the fact "they're gonna legalize it soon" has been people's attitudes since the 70s. You can get so close but then the DEA comes up with another bogus/exaggerated argument.
It's very very important to realize that while all drugs have to be legalized, marijuana prohibition is the #1 thing that keeps the DEA going. Legalize that and then the DEA has nothing. It will lose all credibility for lying for a whole century. What if people actually find out that Pot is relatively harmless? *gasp* think of THOSE consequences.
Think of everyone benefiting from prohibition. Alcohol companies, drug dealers, corrupt politicians, corrupt police, etc.. some of the richest/worst people are keeping prohibition alive for their own sake. It's going to be hard to undue a century of damage.
But to end it on a good note, the Internet and sites like Digg are spreading awareness about the Drug War and about the truth on Pot. So we might be closer than ever. - Yage2006, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Having alcohol and tobacco legal and yet pot illegal is so ***** absurd :(
- 10001110101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You know, pot is nearly legal in Canada too... You may want to rethink which direction you relocate too..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Go, Kinky! I disagree with a lot of his positions on issues, but at least I know where he stands. And I'd still get along better with Kinky when we disagreed than most politicians I see eye to eye with.
I'm agreeing with this one. We're spending billions to enforce laws against a weed. Confiscating people's homes, pulling law enforcement resources away from serious crime, filling up our jails and clogging the criminal justice system...it's insane. From the beginning of time people who wanted to get high have found a way and that's never going to change no matter how many laws you enact. The more you try to regulate people's behavior, the more inspired they become in mischief. - chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Even as one of the 'conservative' diggers, we could do a lot to save money on the prison system:
1. Decriminalize pot.
2. Pedophiles do not goto jail, they go in the gound (much easier to keep track of them that way).
3. Violent criminals goto an island somewhere - just drop them off and let them fend for themselves. - jsls, on 10/12/2007, -0/+43. Violent criminals go to an island somewhere - just drop them off and let them fend for themselves....I think they tried that once already, ie; Australia
Decriminalization is for sure the way to go, they decriminalized marijuana in Denver and other cities with "smart" politicians (and I use that term very loosely)....their just isn't enough jail space...I am sure in due time people will realize where priorities need to be...but then again maybe not... - MrTea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'll tell you what. I'd rather see cartons of joints being sold by Marlboro than bags of pot being sold by trigger happy drug cartels.
- 10001110101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4From the article:
He also said he would favor a review of people already imprisoned on marijuana charges to "rehab them, try to get them back into society."
I'd be interested in knowing what sort of 'rehab' a pothead needs...
"No, chips and Joe Louis ARE NOT food groups!"
"Did you remember your keys?" - Funkly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yes you are being misled, and it snot just you, most people believe that stuff. The only study that ever showed brain malfnction with pot was disproven, the tester were basically suffocating chimps with marijuana smoke for about 5 minutes at a time. That means no oxgen just smoke, ingest any 'smoke' or non-air substances you will show brain damage, if not suffocate.
As far as being addictive, no one has ever proven any addiction connected with pot, well excpet for those tasty ass zingers at 7-11after you smoked out. but then that would involve getting up, going some place.... - cragga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5pesonally, i feel things like seatbelt laws are ***** up darwinism for us all, if the dumb ones never get killed off they just keep becoming president, and you know how much that can suck.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Decriminalized also doesnt need to mean soft. You can still have high fines, and forced rehab, you just dont go to jail or have a criminal record.
- toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3thats why we need more statesmen and fewer politicians
- MrTea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Well, if all you're going to care about is getting more crack, you'll probably be willing to do whatever you can to get some more.
- positron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You've obviously never heard how corrupt the Mexican military is. They are the ones working security for drug and immigrant smugglers. Pay them more than they're getting now, and I garauntee you'll have some extremely effective border security.
- omnithought, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@TubaTechno
I'd agree with that. It is your life and your body. If someone kills themselves, it's unfortunate, but shouldn't be illegal. Either you own your body or you don't. All or nothing. - asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"I'm not 100% sure on this but isn't pot much more addictive than alcohol? I know many many more addicted potheads than alcoholics. And 2nd, although alcohol will screw up your liver, ect... weed from what I've heard slows the brain down even while off the high. Am I just being mislead or is this true?"
Sigh. Do your own research, don't read bias .gov *****. Pay attention to the source of information. People have self interests that they want promoted. Anyone who thinks Marijuana causes much damage to the body/brain is seriously misled.
http://www.perkel.com/politics/issues/pot.htm
The founder of NORML is a 62 year old pot smoker. He's been smoking daily for 40 years and look at how good his health is. - asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Tobacco is significantly harder to grow and it ruins the soil so you have to change that annually. With pot you sort of just set it and forget it. But that's not the point. Most people will buy it instead of growing their own. Same with distilling alcohol.
What *might* happen is you might have people who grow it in large amounts and then give it away for very cheap/free just for the hell of it. Because the pot community is like a big family. Of course legalizing it will probably kill that whole culture.
Rolling Tobacco is NOT taxed. You can buy 50 grams of it for a few dollars. Most people opt to buy the pre-rolled cigs even though they are more than triple the price of rolling Tobacco in some places. - lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5$250 for one ounce!
I'm glad I live in Michigan! - JackyTreehorn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I can imagine late night trips to the corner store to pick up a pack of Marlboro Extra Stickies.
- bcdowell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4pot is absolutely -not- addictive.
I would know, I'm a nicotine addict. I have also used pot fairly heavily and frequently in the past, and I can tell you firsthand that there is a difference.
At one point I had to give up pot for 6 weeks to get some IQ and aptitude tests. For the first night or two maybe, I had trouble sleeping because a j was just part of my winding down routine. But after that I didn't even know the difference. It was honestly no big deal. Actually I haven't smoked pot since then just for the lack of opportunity and it really doesn't bother me. I'm more addicted to Dr. Pepper than I ever was to cannabis.
Now quitting cigarettes... if you've ever tried to do that then you -know- what addiction really is. The withdrawal symptoms gnaw at you constantly; you can't think straight; you are angry for no reason; you will start sweating; every sound will hurt your ears; the lights will always be too bright... your mind will be fixated on having a cigarette, and you won't be able to think about anything else.
All I can say is, thank god for nicorette!
So all that to say, anyone who claims that pot is highly or even mildly addictive is just spreading disinformation and lies. - Foenetik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5While it might not be illegal to be a pedophile as long as they don't act out on others it's certainly immoral, and immorality goes hand in hand with being a politician.
- t3hCyborg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ahh, Kinky Friedman, awesome guy. The bumper stickers he gives people to support him say: "My Governor is a Jewish cowboy."
He's got my vote. - greymaxcat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Hell... I'm moving to Texas!
- wozley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hahah.
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