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- Awklib, on 02/17/2008, -4/+93How come the major news outlets don't carry this?
- lauraks, on 02/17/2008, -3/+76A newspaper with courage to print the truth. Hope other major media follows suit.
- Korinthe, on 02/17/2008, -4/+71Finally! Putting a gag order on her that applies only to U.S. news sources reeks of corruption and a cover-up. This story is absolutely HUGE, and the Bush administration does NOT want the average American to hear it. Spread this story everywhere. Give it legs.
- nosecohn, on 02/17/2008, -1/+46Finally, a semi-major news outlet is talking about this story. It's been buried in the US for years. If even half of what Sibel Edmonds says is true, it represents the biggest breach of national security, and indeed the biggest threat to world stability, in history.
FTA: "Prior to 2006, Rep. Henry Waxman of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee allegedly promised Ms. Edmonds that if the Democrats gained control of Congress, he would order hearings into her charges. But following the Democratic sweep, he has been less forthcoming. It is suspected that Mr. Waxman fears that the revelations might open a Pandora's box, damaging Republicans and Democrats alike."
And this is the problem. All of our so-called reprensentatives are worried how their decisions are going to affect them and their parties, and not the American people. While they're quibbling over strategies designed to play well in the media, our country is failing. - inactive, on 02/17/2008, -4/+43This isn't a Bush administration issue, but rather an abuse of government issue. The people in the positions this lady detailed are not political appointees but rather career public service workers. That is what should scare us. We are being turned into a police state. This has been happening for some time.
- HoosierDeb, on 02/17/2008, -5/+43Because the Bush/Cheney cabal has either bought them off or has them too scared to say anything. This is what happens when the media is consolidated into the hands of just a few people. Think Rupert Murdoch. Of course, that doesn't make it any less of an outrage.
- kuantan97, on 02/17/2008, -3/+38We should be past the stage where we're wondering why a major story isn't being carried by the MSM.
- valsagem, on 02/17/2008, -4/+35OMG a news paper that has real news what a new concept, and a Texas one at that. Lets see more of this kind of reporting on all the major papers.
- sephius, on 02/17/2008, -7/+37If it is one thing Bush&Co loves more than war profiteering, it's breaking the law. And Edmonds' critics, say she didn't see the "...whole picture...", that it is "...complicated..". First, you are confirming her account, and second that would imply Bush is capable of complicated thinking......he is not. Put this scandal next to the missing $8 billion dollars, missing WMD, and missing democracy we have yet to find.
OK, Democrats can we put Impeachment back on the table. - bobbarkerbilly, on 02/17/2008, -4/+33Every day a news piece like this comes out, the tin foil hatters are looking less and less crazy. Guess who was right after all?
- Frnnkdlxx, on 02/17/2008, -1/+26Because slaves have no business knowing things.
- vroom101, on 02/17/2008, -0/+23Here's the full-length article...
Found in Translation: FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds spills her secrets
By Philip Giraldi, The American Conservative, January 28, 2008 Issue
http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_01_28/article1.h ...
( amconmag.com/2008/2008_01_28/article1.html ) - InfamousAtheist, on 02/17/2008, -3/+23It doesn't serve the corporatocracy's interests to let the sheeple know about this sort of thing. These cover-ups at the highest levels of government are designed to preserve the status quo and keep the ruling elite in power. Allowing the common citizen access to this sort of information could lead to serious backlash (ha-ha) from the public and could potentially alter the balance of power. Unfortunately, the average citizen is so distracted by who's winning American Idol or if their car has a talking navigation system that they can't spare the brain power necessary to understand that the real power in this country is consolidated into the hands of the wealthy few while the rest of us struggle to make our next mortgage payment and put food in our children's mouths.
- thesonofdarwin, on 02/17/2008, -4/+23"USofA" and the cute Ice Cold Conservative avatar are the only things we need to know to bury your comment. It's neat how we can make such quick decisions.
- jasperjed, on 02/17/2008, -2/+20Agreed. However, any Democrat that refuses to put impeachment "back on the table" should be recalled. Nancy Pelosi included.
- lhbaker, on 02/17/2008, -0/+18Unfortunately, this is in the commentary section. Not exactly above-the-fold coverage.
- btsr7414, on 02/17/2008, -2/+19Move along people, there is nothing to see here. Now lets get back to investigating steroids in baseball and whether the New England Patriots were videotaping their opponents' practices.
- kilowat, on 02/17/2008, -2/+18well it's about time!!! this has been on the internet for how long now!!!.i can't remember
- shakbhaji, on 02/17/2008, -2/+18Rock on Dallas. Rest of MSM: ***** you.
- h0ser, on 02/17/2008, -1/+17There is nothing stopping all of you from informing as many people as you can about the current events that you find important. You can't always rely on the big news media outlets to spread the word. Before there was television, people still knew what was going on over on the other side of the world.
- digindrivefast, on 02/17/2008, -3/+18From The Sunday Times
January 6, 2008
For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets
Insight: Chris Gourlay, Jonathan Calvert, Joe Lauria
A WHISTLEBLOWER has made a series of extraordinary claims about how corrupt government officials allowed Pakistan and other states to steal nuclear weapons secrets.
Sibel Edmonds, a 37-year-old former Turkish language translator for the FBI, listened into hundreds of sensitive intercepted conversations while based at the agency’s Washington field office.
She approached The Sunday Times last month after reading about an Al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.
Edmonds described how foreign intelligence agents had enlisted the support of US officials to acquire a network of moles in sensitive military and nuclear institutions.
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Among the hours of covert tape recordings, she says she heard evidence that one well-known senior official in the US State Department was being paid by Turkish agents in Washington who were selling the information on to black market buyers, including Pakistan.
The name of the official – who has held a series of top government posts – is known to The Sunday Times. He strongly denies the claims.
However, Edmonds said: “He was aiding foreign operatives against US interests by passing them highly classified information, not only from the State Department but also from the Pentagon, in exchange for money, position and political objectives.”
She claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials – including household names – who were aiding foreign agents.
“If you made public all the information that the FBI have on this case, you will see very high-level people going through criminal trials,” she said.
Her story shows just how much the West was infiltrated by foreign states seeking nuclear secrets. It illustrates how western government officials turned a blind eye to, or were even helping, countries such as Pakistan acquire bomb technology.
The wider nuclear network has been monitored for many years by a joint Anglo-American intelligence effort. But rather than shut it down, investigations by law enforcement bodies such as the FBI and Britain’s Revenue & Customs have been aborted to preserve diplomatic relations.
Edmonds, a fluent speaker of Turkish and Farsi, was recruited by the FBI in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. Her previous claims about incompetence inside the FBI have been well documented in America.
She has given evidence to closed sessions of Congress and the 9/11 commission, but many of the key points of her testimony have remained secret. She has now decided to divulge some of that information after becoming disillusioned with the US authorities’ failure to act.
One of Edmonds’s main roles in the FBI was to translate thousands of hours of conversations by Turkish diplomatic and political targets that had been covertly recorded by the agency.
A backlog of tapes had built up, dating back to 1997, which were needed for an FBI investigation into links between the Turks and Pakistani, Israeli and US targets. Before she left the FBI in 2002 she heard evidence that pointed to money laundering, drug imports and attempts to acquire nuclear and conventional weapons technology.
“What I found was damning,” she said. “While the FBI was investigating, several arms of the government were shielding what was going on.”
The Turks and Israelis had planted “moles” in military and academic institutions which handled nuclear technology. Edmonds says there were several transactions of nuclear material every month, with the Pakistanis being among the eventual buyers. “The network appeared to be obtaining information from every nuclear agency in the United States,” she said.
They were helped, she says, by the high-ranking State Department official who provided some of their moles – mainly PhD students – with security clearance to work in sensitive nuclear research facilities. These included the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory in New Mexico, which is responsible for the security of the US nuclear deterrent.
In one conversation Edmonds heard the official arranging to pick up a $15,000 cash bribe. The package was to be dropped off at an agreed location by someone in the Turkish diplomatic community who was working for the network.
The Turks, she says, often acted as a conduit for the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan’s spy agency, because they were less likely to attract suspicion. Venues such as the American Turkish Council in Washington were used to drop off the cash, which was picked up by the official.
Edmonds said: “I heard at least three transactions like this over a period of 2½ years. There are almost certainly more.”
The Pakistani operation was led by General Mahmoud Ahmad, then the ISI chief.
Intercepted communications showed Ahmad and his colleagues stationed in Washington were in constant contact with attachés in the Turkish embassy.
Intelligence analysts say that members of the ISI were close to Al-Qaeda before and after 9/11. Indeed, Ahmad was accused of sanctioning a $100,000 wire payment to Mohammed Atta, one of the 9/11 hijackers, immediately before the attacks.
The results of the espionage were almost certainly passed to Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani nuclear scientist.
Khan was close to Ahmad and the ISI. While running Pakistan’s nuclear programme, he became a millionaire by selling atomic secrets to Libya, Iran and North Korea. He also used a network of companies in America and Britain to obtain components for a nuclear programme.
Khan caused an alert among western intelligence agencies when his aides met Osama Bin Laden. “We were aware of contact between A Q Khan’s people and Al-Qaeda,” a former CIA officer said last week. “There was absolute panic when we initially discovered this, but it kind of panned out in the end.”
It is likely that the nuclear secrets stolen from the United States would have been sold to a number of rogue states by Khan.
Edmonds was later to see the scope of the Pakistani connections when it was revealed that one of her fellow translators at the FBI was the daughter of a Pakistani embassy official who worked for Ahmad. The translator was given top secret clearance despite protests from FBI investigators.
Edmonds says packages containing nuclear secrets were delivered by Turkish operatives, using their cover as members of the diplomatic and military community, to contacts at the Pakistani embassy in Washington.
Following 9/11, a number of the foreign operatives were taken in for questioning by the FBI on suspicion that they knew about or somehow aided the attacks.
Edmonds said the State Department official once again proved useful. “A primary target would call the official and point to names on the list and say, ‘We need to get them out of the US because we can’t afford for them to spill the beans’,” she said. “The official said that he would ‘take care of it’.”
The four suspects on the list were released from interrogation and extradited.
Edmonds also claims that a number of senior officials in the Pentagon had helped Israeli and Turkish agents.
“The people provided lists of potential moles from Pentagon-related institutions who had access to databases concerning this information,” she said.
“The handlers, who were part of the diplomatic community, would then try to recruit those people to become moles for the network. The lists contained all their ‘hooking points’, which could be financial or sexual pressure points, their exact job in the Pentagon and what stuff they had access to.”
One of the Pentagon figures under investigation was Lawrence Franklin, a former Pentagon analyst, who was jailed in 2006 for passing US defence information to lobbyists and sharing classified information with an Israeli diplomat.
“He was one of the top people providing information and packages during 2000 and 2001,” she said.
Once acquired, the nuclear secrets could have gone anywhere. The FBI monitored Turkish diplomats who were selling copies of the information to the highest bidder.
Edmonds said: “Certain greedy Turkish operators would make copies of the material and look around for buyers. They had agents who would find potential buyers.”
In summer 2000, Edmonds says the FBI monitored one of the agents as he met two Saudi Arabian businessmen in Detroit to sell nuclear information that had been stolen from an air force base in Alabama. She overheard the agent saying: “We have a package and we’re going to sell it for $250,000.”
Edmonds’s employment with the FBI lasted for just six months. In March 2002 she was dismissed after accusing a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals.
She has always claimed that she was victimised for being outspoken and was vindicated by an Office of the Inspector General review of her case three years later. It found that one of the contributory reasons for her sacking was that she had made valid complaints.
The US attorney-general has imposed a state secrets privilege order on her, which prevents her revealing more details of the FBI’s methods and current investigations.
Her allegations were heard in a closed session of Congress, but no action has been taken and she continues to campaign for a public hearing.
She was able to discuss the case with The Sunday Times because, by the end of January 2002, the justice department had shut down the programme.
The senior official in the State Department no longer works there. Last week he denied all of Edmonds’s allegations: “If you are calling me to say somebody said that I took money, that’s outrageous . . . I do not have anything to say about such stupid ridiculous things as this.”
In researching this article, The Sunday Times has talked to two FBI officers (one serving, one former) and two former CIA sources who worked on nuclear proliferation. While none was aware of specific allegations against officials she names, they did provide overlapping corroboration of Edmonds’s story.
One of the CIA sources confirmed that the Turks had acquired nuclear secrets from the United States and shared the information with Pakistan and Israel. “We have no indication that Turkey has its own nuclear ambitions. But the Turks are traders. To my knowledge they became big players in the late 1990s,” the source said.
How Pakistan got the bomb, then sold it to the highest bidders
1965 Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, Pakistan’s foreign minister, says: “If India builds the bomb we will eat grass . . . but we will get one of our own”
1974 Nuclear programme becomes increased priority as India tests a nuclear device
1976 Abdul Qadeer Khan, a scientist, steals secrets from Dutch uranium plant. Made head of his nation’s nuclear programme by Bhutto, now prime minister
1976 onwards Clandestine network established to obtain materials and technology for uranium enrichment from the West
1985 Pakistan produces weapons-grade uranium for the first time
1989-91 Khan’s network sells Iran nuclear weapons information and technology
1991-97 Khan sells weapons technology to North Korea and Libya
1998 India tests nuclear bomb and Pakistan follows with a series of nuclear tests. Khan says: “I never had any doubts I was building a bomb. We had to do it”
2001 CIA chief George Tenet gathers officials for crisis summit on the proliferation of nuclear technology from Pakistan to other countries
2001 Weeks before 9/11, Khan’s aides meet Osama Bin Laden to discuss an Al-Qaeda nuclear device
2001 After 9/11 proliferation crisis becomes secondary as Pakistan is seen as important ally in war on terror
2003 Libya abandons nuclear weapons programme and admits acquiring components through Pakistani nuclear scientists
2004 Khan placed under house arrest and confesses to supplying Iran, Libya and North Korea with weapons technology. He is pardoned by President Pervez Musharraf
2006 North Korea tests a nuclear bomb
2007 Renewed fears that bomb may fall into hands of Islamic extremists as killing of Benazir Bhutto throws country into turmoil - Dysarthria, on 02/17/2008, -1/+16I guess you didn't read the part where Democratic investigator/congressman Henry Waxman promised to help her after his party regained control of congress, then gave her the cold shoulder 'cause it looks like some Dems are pretty thick in this (these allegations go back to 1997).
Lets push ahead and get all the facts out! - ccheath, on 02/17/2008, -2/+17it's not the buch/cheney cabal (they're just the current figureheads)
think about it for a minute or two... after reading as much as you can about sibel edmonds - Richandler, on 02/17/2008, -0/+14The democrats were pimping the same things that have gone wrong so they aren't exactly someone you can turn too.
- TheReverendBill, on 02/17/2008, -2/+16The DMN is probably the finest newspaper I've ever read. After the brisket tacos at Mia's, it's what I miss second-most about living in Dallas.
Now if they'd just fill us in on that JFK thing... - 2trkpony, on 02/17/2008, -0/+13Correct. Just pay your taxes and vote in rigged elections. The serfs are on a 'need to know' basis..
- ZenMojo, on 02/17/2008, -0/+13Good to see there's a price tag being put on my country. I always wondered how much it was worth.
(*****.) - inactive, on 02/17/2008, -2/+15Here's a good Sibel Edmonds video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-dNjrVhc2U
More Sibel Edmonds links and videos on
http://yellowcakewalk.net - iching, on 02/17/2008, -1/+13The first one in the US.......the news will spread now.
This story is gonna take down many of the power players in both parties.
Now if can get to diggs front page? - inactive, on 02/17/2008, -0/+12Here is a documentary on her.
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3816260/Documentary_-_ ... - iainc, on 02/17/2008, -1/+13Timing could not be better.
- americangoy, on 02/17/2008, -0/+12DIGG this people.
Thanks to the internet, once the story is out, there is no effective gag order.
So DIGG it. - ichserbe, on 02/17/2008, -0/+12This needs to get out a little more...
- yankeeblue, on 02/17/2008, -0/+11 "That said, it should be conceded that Ms. Edmonds might sometimes have seen only a piece of the story, and those claims based on her own interpretation should be regarded with caution."
But I concur with the sentiment, that if indeed she knows just part of the truth to something far more dangerous, the Democrats need to step up on this. National Security, World Security knows not of the Right and Left.
Really interesting this is. - omgTHEPATRIOTS, on 02/17/2008, -2/+13hey bush, we're in your base exposing your crimes! boogie oogie!
- baalzebub, on 02/17/2008, -1/+11i hope this get nationwide coverage and head roll on capital hill because of corruption...
- 2trkpony, on 02/18/2008, -0/+10There is a good reason the villainous 'powers that be' criminals have got Sibel 'gagged'. She knows too much and has damning, crucial information which will incriminate the lot of 'em. They wish to keep her silenced. Let's keep pounding these collaborators and accessories and cowardly servants of AIPAC, CFR and Trilateral Commission: let Sibel Edmonds testify before the American people. In public, under oath. 15,000 signatures is not enough for Waxman??
Check this: http://digg.com/politics/WeAreChangeLA_confronts_R ... - mal1964, on 02/17/2008, -0/+10Ms. Edmonds approached the Sunday Times of London. On Jan. 6, the Times, a Rupert Murdoch-owned paper that does not normally encourage exposés damaging to the Bush administration, featured a long article. The news quickly spread around the world – but not in the United States.
Is this the same story, or does someone have a link - mal1964, on 02/17/2008, -0/+9I not saying this is the reason, but i have a strong feeling it is. things like this most of the time surface for a reason.
Dallas Morning News endorses, Obama
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2 ... - nirav72, on 02/17/2008, -5/+14The ACLU is most likely the organization that will defend your rights when the DoJ or the government itself doesn't give a rats ass about you and your constitutional rights. Regardless of your ideology or political affiliation. They'll even do it for free! I never heard of Ron Paul or any other Right winger ever mention the ACLU. Considering he's so big on the constitution.
- aboutlogin, on 02/18/2008, -0/+8because they don't want it to come out that the world is less safe today because we are actively and purposefully making it so, that we want instability and turmoil, that we are actively enabling the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction so we can profit financially and politically from the crisis filled and unstable world that that creates. they don't want us to know that our own government is our worst enemy and that it is doing everything it possibly can to prevent peace from breaking out.
- 2trkpony, on 02/18/2008, -1/+9"moonbats" wow how deep. A dumb soundbyte! What does that make you?
Sibel Edmonds has yet to testify before the American people. In public, under oath. That is what NONE of the so-called 'representatives' want to address. They won't touch it. That is the issue. The appeal court's decision on her case was to dismiss it completely, no opinion cited, no reason provided. Sibel was subject to unconstitutional, panic-driven assault by former U.S. attorney general John Ashcroft at every turn. She was threatened, gagged several times, prevented from pursuing her due process, all reports and investigations looking into her case have been "classified', and every investigative authority dealing with her case has been shut up. According to legal experts familiar with her case, the level of secrecy and classification is unprecedented in the entire history of U.S. courts, she is one of the most, if not the most, gagged woman they have ever heard of. Why? In Ms. Edmonds' unimpeachable testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee almost seven years ago, she named countries and specific government people who had contributed to the attacks of 9/11. At the time, the FBI had evidence from Colleen Rowley, The Phoenix memo, and other FBI translators. Twenty-five more whistle-blowers have joined them. Who would be damaged by the release of the reports? Who is being protected? It pertains to the gate-keepers of empire, the status quo, treason, and despotism. Sibel Edmonds has faced an unprecedented level of government secrecy, gag orders, and classification. She has been silenced, gagged from testifying in a court of law. That is the real issue at hand here. Not whether or not the controlled MSM does some little spin hit-piece sound-byte mock "journalism' on her story.. - GhostyBoy, on 02/18/2008, -0/+8The whole concept of the "conspiracy theorists" started with a Bush speech after 9/11. The quote was "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theorists". Then the media echo chamber ran with it and 6 and a half years later a growing number of persistent and courageous truth seekers are still trying to fight to make their voices heard.
But if we dissect the initial statement that started the trend of silencing and marginalize them, we can see that this was a flawed response from day 1.
"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theorists"
We have since seen that Bush and the neo-cons have promoted their own conspiracy theories. WMD's and Iran's nuclear program were conspiracy theories that should never have been tolerated, due to a lack of reliable evidence.
The official story of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory as well. The theory that 19 hijackers theory, along with Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were able to bypass the entire U.S. defense network and pulverize 3 buildings into dust using 3 planes. Actually the official story suggests that Al-Qaeda somehow had the amazing knowledge that the resulting fires would bring the buildings down.
Along with the fact that Bush is mostly full of ***** and has either lied or been wrong about damn near everything, the reasonable conclusion is that we should never have tolerated BushCo's outrageous conspiracy theories. They have led America to war, poverty and general disaster.
So take a few hours if you haven't yet, remove the blinding blanket statements like "crazy", "tin-foil" and "conspiracy theorists" and do some research.
911research.wtc7.net
ae911truth.org
911scholars.org/
911truth.org
Trust me, there are some unsung heroes out there who deserve to be commended for their brave and patriotic efforts. We may owe them an apology as well. - digindrivefast, on 02/17/2008, -0/+8http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle ...
Sorry about that! - apc3161, on 02/18/2008, -0/+7Usually I close the torrents once my upload/download ratio hits 1.1
But for the sake of patriotism I think I'm going to seed this one as long as there is reasonable demand. Thanks for the link. - GhostyBoy, on 02/17/2008, -0/+7Dude, I didn't know you had a website. By the look of these pictures you are kicking some real activism as well. Nice ***** work, man.
- 2trkpony, on 02/18/2008, -0/+7Watch it online via Googlevideo:
Kill The Messenger - The Sibel Edmonds Story (52 min) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-635938003 ... - inactive, on 02/17/2008, -0/+7Thanks, GB. When you live here in DC, it's not just a low-hanging fruit, it's a duty!
- ajchavar, on 02/17/2008, -2/+9the dallas morning news is MSM. . unless you mean why isnt it on NBC, CNN, etc, to which the answer would be that there is virtually no real broadcast news anymore (barring NPR)
- inactive, on 02/17/2008, -3/+9 The media has to bury this. If the extent of the Israeli and Jewish partisan penetration of our security apparatus were ever to be fully realized there would be a lot of explaining to do, they're not about to let that happen.
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