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- tcbishop12, on 05/28/2008, -4/+133Hey, Bill! No one has had to push a candidate out before, because every other candidate who lost left on their own accord!
- jlhoben, on 05/28/2008, -18/+99There is no left wing left in America.
- Daunting, on 05/29/2008, -2/+76Bi-wing-ual
- aflaks, on 05/29/2008, -2/+65This whole election thing is making me sad. I used to like the Clintons, they appeared to be the voice of reason in a society that seemed to forget all about it. Now though, my image of not only Hillary, but Bill too is utterly destroyed. They are just as crazy as the rest.
- PapaZit, on 05/29/2008, -1/+27Digg is certainly more "left" compared to the mainstream news, but you use Kucinich as your argument against conservatism? Kucinich is laughed at, and ignored by most of America. This country has shifted further and further right ever since near the end of the Carter administration and the balance hasn't really shifted back. Sure we are more accepting of gays, social taboos have been smashed, but this is a country 5 years into Iraq that has no plan of getting out. 7 1/2 years into the Bush administration and most Republicans are still Bush loyalists. The left-wing of America latches onto "center" figures like Obama, rather than supporting candidates that better fit their desires. Obama wants more deregulation. He went on Fox News and said that Republicans tend to have it right on deregulation compared to Democrats. Obama is considered the most liberal senator (not sure if that actually accurate) and he is for deregulation? That's what is meant by there not being a left-wing.
- zhaojon, on 05/29/2008, -1/+20Hilary, here's some advice. Since you've been digging yourself a hole anyway, stop at 6 feet and lie down. I am tired of hearing about you. Leave gracefully. Your defeat is inevitable!
- solistus, on 05/29/2008, -1/+19The sites and people you mention are considered 'fringe' by the MSM and have no influence on politics. Also, Bill Maher is pretty damn conservative on a lot of things (he's not entirely against the WoT, just the administration of the Iraq war; in most of the world that would make him far right), and Keith Olberman is a moderate who hates Bush (in most of the world, hating Bush makes you sane, not a liberal).
Kucinich is a ridiculously fringe candidate who has never come anywhere close to the nomination. He is liberal, but two liberal politicians (throw in his friend Bernie Sanders (I), the only socialist in Senate) that have virtually no influence on the Democratic Party or the nation hardly constitute a 'left wing.'
Most western democracies in the world have a major party that is avowedly Socialist. In the US, that is a kiss of death outside Vermont. Most western democracies have also ended the death penalty, have about 1% our insane war on our own people (oops, I mean 'drugs'), most have severe restrictions on guns compared to the US, the entire EU (which contains a large proportio of the world's western democracies) has virtually open borders, many countries have no nuclear power plants, etc. You have to be absolutely ignorant about politics in the rest of the world not to notice that American politics is insanely conservative in comparison and is entirely lacking a major leftist party. It's still considered pretty far left to advocate universal, single payer health care (BOTH Democratic candidates refuse to advocate a single payer system), or the abolition of the death penalty, or a relaxation of border policies with Mexico (one of the most protected and difficult-to-cross borders between democracies with normal relations in the world). - solistus, on 05/29/2008, -3/+20How about relative comparisons to every other western democracy on the planet? Virtually every one has a major party - major as in, has controlled the executive (or been in the ruling coalition where applicable) in the past few electoral cycles - that consistently adopts positions far to the left of the 'left wing' of the Democratic Party.
In the US, 'socialist' is considered a pejorative even among Democrats, and the only self-avowed socialist in Senate is Bernie Sanders from Vermont, who only got in by cooperating with the Democrats (long story short, he was in the House, replaced the retiring Democratic Senator with Democratic support in 06 in return for supporting a Democratic House candidate because the Republicans were pouring money to beat the weak replacement Senator candidate the Dems had and Bernie is very popular in Vermont. In most democracies, 'socialist' means you belong to the SDP, LDP or whatever equivalent your country has; these parties are self-proclaimed Social Democratic or Democratic-Socialist parties with platforms well to the left of any major parties in the US. The US hasn't had a popular Socialist politician since Eugene friggin' Debs, and even he ended up in jail for a while and never won the Presidency despite running many times. - Osirus1156, on 05/29/2008, -3/+19"As you may know, the general election hasn't started yet..."
- mochaman, on 05/29/2008, -3/+17In a clintonian world it is no longer the vast right wing conspiracy or the vast left wing conspiracy it is now the vast bi-wing conspiracy.
- conostrov, on 05/29/2008, -1/+14Canada: http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-wi ... @ around 3:00
- chrissku, on 05/29/2008, -1/+13Please Hillary....exit stage left.
- InfamousAtheist, on 05/29/2008, -0/+10Man, I feel the same way. The Clinton years were the best in my memory (I'm 34) and now they've ruined that legacy. I feel sorry for them.
- Winston84, on 05/29/2008, -3/+13For us non-USA citizens it looks a lot like the "Center" in US-politics
is something even Attila the Hun would consider extremist .
What you call "liberal" or "leftist" we in Europe consider "moderately conservative" .. - l0k0, on 05/29/2008, -14/+23I honestly don't know how people come to that conclusion. I live in Massachusetts, which is probably the most liberal state in America, and quite frankly I sometimes feel there is no right wing in America.
However, both of these statements are simply not true. Surely I thought you'd be able to realize this considering most of the popular articles seen on Digg.
-Daily Kos
-Huffington Post
-Crooks and Liars
-Move On.Org
-Think Progress
-Keith Olberman
-Bill Maher
Are there any views these people have expressed that are even remotely conservative?
The same could be said about Dennis Kucinich. Is his voting record/positions even remotely conservative?
Seriously let's look at his positions and see if they are conservative or moderate.
-Pro Choice
-Legalize Medical Marijuana
-Legalize Gay Marriage
-Abolish Death Penalty
-Abolish War on Drugs
-After the Virginia Tech Massacre he proposed legislation that would ban the ownership of ALL handguns
-Universal Healthcare
-Open Borders Policy
-Phase out ALL of Nuclear Power
Are Joycelyn Elders and Al Sharpton conservative as well? If you want to simply compare us to Sweden and assume that we all have the same beliefs as Sean Hannity, then yes, you're incredibly naive analysis is correct.
- GroundhogBoy, on 05/29/2008, -7/+16Jon Stewart must be sexist. There's no other excuse for this skewering, right?
- l0k0, on 05/29/2008, -0/+9He must be elitist too, and no, I have absolutely nothing to support that claim, but it seems to be a word you can through around for no reason these days.
- DangerCollie, on 05/29/2008, -1/+10What really bugs me about Hillary's campaign is how Republicanesque they've become. Say anything to win, distort the facts until they're lies loosely based on truth, smear your opponent, openly suggest something "bad" might happen to them. Those are all the dirtbag behaviors we've come to expect from Republicans. In a country yearning for change, I'm not sure that's a smart public image to adopt.
- jkerrigan, on 05/29/2008, -0/+8Or, maybe he's from Canada, where the Comedy Central site doesn't show the videos.
- oselznick, on 05/29/2008, -3/+11That's funny -- you should write for the Jon Stewart Show.
thanks for this. You made my day. :-) - inactive, on 05/29/2008, -0/+8I cried laughing at "Hillary uses tragic events as a mnemonic device", and even more so when they showed her calendar.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 05/29/2008, -0/+7We can't even follow our own constitution. Unless there is a major turn around in the American psyche, more and more Americans will simply move to Canada, Europe, and Australia.
- inactive, on 05/29/2008, -0/+6I am so tired of liberalism and conservatism being measured on stupid wedge issues. For instance, you're not anywhere close to being a real conservative if you just hate gay people and reproductive rights; you're actually a douchebag. Seriously, why not focus on some of the real issues facing this country, rather than keep slamming on "moral issues" that have no meaning whatsoever.
- fasda, on 05/29/2008, -5/+11like all things political its relative there are no fixed benchmarks only shallow comparisons to something else.
- theaceoffire, on 05/29/2008, -0/+6I am sorry that no one read your post past the first couple of lines.
- flyingcatcircus, on 05/29/2008, -1/+7He meant: If there were a god, it would be Jon Stewart.
FTFY - undeadbydawn, on 05/29/2008, -0/+5The keyword you mention here is 'hypothetical'
as opposed to 'actual'
Hypothetically Clinton had the nomination wrapped up before the selection process started.
Hypothetically there was no way America could be collectively crazy enough to give Bush a second term. - bgrah449, on 05/29/2008, -0/+5They were always like that. The administration oversaw prosperity, but that is a different issue than the Clintons having remarkably unconscionable behavior.
- oldgal, on 05/29/2008, -0/+5My guess is jhoben is a European. A British person once explained to me that the British consider the Republican party the conservative party. They consider the Democratic party the other conservative party.
- missingnoh4x, on 05/29/2008, -0/+5Ron Paul hasn't left of his own accord despite not even having 10% of the vote.
(Yeah, I know, digg me down for blasphemy. It's okay when Ron Paul does it, right?) - solistus, on 05/29/2008, -1/+6Lazydriver: I'm not that invested in either side of the gun rights debate, but neither of those justifications has made sense for nearly a century. No number of mostly untrained civilians with legal firearms is going to pose any threat whatsoever to the United States Military. Any threat to the country that the military couldn't handle would most certainly not be stopped by ad hoc militias forming from random local gun owners, and the fate of any dictatorship in the US would depend entirely on the military; if they support the dictator, the dictator wins, and if they oppose him or her then they could easily stage a coup.
Give me one scenario in which public firearms would pose a credible threat to a dictator who had any chance to begin with. Even assuming the ridiculous assumption that all gun owners would unite and organise, which seems pretty far-fetched; even Bush couldn't unify us against our leader. - Fozefy, on 05/29/2008, -0/+4Posted further down: http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-wi ...
- Fozefy, on 05/29/2008, -1/+5Sigh...Canadian link please? I tried to find it myself, but to no avail.
- craigyjack, on 05/29/2008, -0/+4I do not think anyone understood what he meant. I believe he meant there is no left wing in America - compared to other countries in the world. The American left wing would basically be moderate or even moderate-right in other countries like European countries. I believe that is what OP is referring to. I don't know all the details, someone can look it up in more detail if they wish.
- charm803, on 05/29/2008, -1/+5I concur!
- homercles337, on 05/29/2008, -0/+3Wrong. Along the political spectrum Hillary and Obama are RIGHT of center. The Repugs are further right of center. There is no left in politics in the US. None what so ever. Do your research before spouting off.
- Navicerts, on 05/29/2008, -0/+3I think it's a virus - McCain got it too.
- inactive, on 05/29/2008, -0/+32 convenient places that I'm aware of...one of them is questionable in terms of legal standing:
-Comedy Central at 11pm eastern/10pm central time
-an RSS feed that's refreshed daily with torrents of the previous day's show - MrTulip, on 05/29/2008, -0/+3you heard it here first!
- gobbleplex, on 05/29/2008, -1/+4Jesus christ, "Electability" was the mantra of all the fools supporting John Kerry. Vote for who you believe in.
- EricMiIIer, 15 hr 16 min ago, -1/+4"Republicanesque", suddenly politics has the subtle feeling of an art museum.
- wmarcello, on 05/29/2008, -0/+3Are you in Canada? If so, there's a link further down in the comments.
- queenbee93, on 05/30/2008, -0/+2Obama cannot ever consider her as the running mate again--her freudian slip about waiting in the wings until he was assassinated in order to get her shot would make that a verrrrrrry baaaaaaad choice.
- geoboy, on 05/30/2008, -0/+2I think we need to install a trap door on the stage. It's the only way to get rid of her.
- brstilson, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2The conservative right-wing in Europe would qualify as far-left in our political realm. That's how far right we've come. Things like government health care are not even an issue with conservatives there. Universal health care in Europe and Canada is as non-controversial as the post office here.
- wmarcello, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2Why is there such a big gap between May 15 and May 27? Is that what other Canadians are seeing? I've been checking back a lot recently and have been disappointed not to see anything new.
- sean74, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2Here's an idea: Elect someone based on their merits! Who appeals to logic and reason! It's already been proven that these things are not requirements to lead this country. Something is bound to improve!
- HappyNihil, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2I completely agree.
Plus you should also point out, that virtually all countries in Europe have "communist" party (whatever is it called) as well, some sort of Green party, Libertarian party, Christian-democratic party (most of EU except Poland is really secular) and so on and so on, but since there are only 2 real parties in the US and the country is a presidential republic run almost completely by the side that´s at the vessel at the moment it only makes sense that Democrats and Republicans must be quite close in their programs and can´t propose anything that is "less popular" (let´s say 50% of people support it).
In "western" democracies (western means almost all other democratic countries other than the US) there are plenty of political parties and almost all possible (and legal, meaning no Nazis and so on) stances are represented by one party or the other.
Personally, in EU my opinions would be probably described as slightly left-wing and atheist, meaning that I would vote for Labourists, SPD or some other Social-Democratic party.
In the US I would vote for the Democrats out of pure lack of choice and probably be deemed a communist. - obliviousfool, on 05/29/2008, -0/+2*In* politics! Everyone you mention is on the outside looking in! Call us when Digg has a voting block in congress, will ya?
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