166 Comments
- psiege, on 10/04/2008, -15/+82If there's nothing to hide, why hide it? Curious indeed!
- inactive, on 10/04/2008, -16/+79Damage control!
- kolobcreek, on 10/04/2008, -12/+74In all fairness he did win his first election by getting the other candidates disqualified.
- OldGaDawg, on 10/04/2008, -19/+79If Obama will not release documents of his true birth records then he should not be allowed to be a candidate in this years Presidential election. This is just one of several documents that should have been made known long before now and that his attempting to be a candidate for President should have been denied.
Mr. Obama .. What have you got to hide? - Kaffir, on 10/04/2008, -18/+77Mr. Berg is a GREAT American Patriot! It's about time we all put our country first! (Sound like a good political slogan, doesn't it?! Lol!) God bless him, and may God bless America! (We're gonna need it!)
- Navigator7, on 10/04/2008, -12/+62Can anyone deny the plethora of weird stuff swirling around the Obama campaign?
His proof of citizenship is just one of many straws on the camel's back.
Given the time that has expired....Obama could produce anything by now.
Regardless...It's not that Obama is black, It's not that he came from Chicago, it's not that he has a mission, it's not that he may or may not be an American born, it's nothing to do with his religion, muslim or not, never mind Ayers, never mind Wright, never mind that Michelle is finally proud of America......
It's what Obama 'says' that makes my skin crawl.
Obama's Ideology destroyed The Jamestown Colony... why wouldn't it have the same affect today?
http://concretepumpingadvice.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_I ... - inactive, on 10/04/2008, -12/+61FTA "Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg has challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit."
If the document is real, why won't Obama produce it and end the entire debate? Only allowing FactCheck.Org to verify this document feeds the conspiracy theory since Obama worked for Annenberg for years. Obama has the ability to silence the debate yet chooses to allow it to continue. - pandasm, on 10/04/2008, -9/+560bama wont release anything for some reason, birth certificate, college grades, law firm records, college thesis, no friends from his college years, it's like the man didnt exist until he ran for the senate. Funny how no one has seen or talked about his white grandmother. He is hiding something. The news wont investigate his many shady connections, they're too busy investigating Palin & her family. All the reporters are too busy in Wasilla to dig for any dirt on their Messiah.
- inactive, on 10/04/2008, -10/+55The Nay-sayers seem very agitated.
The expounders only seem curious.
Can one of these who spoke against said action, provide reason as to why this SHOULDN'T be investigated? - xman8, on 10/04/2008, -10/+55Obama is one of the biggest scams on the American people. Period.
- DrReaper, on 10/04/2008, -10/+54I for one would like to know the possible next president is a legal U.S. citizen. It would be nice to know that before the election. It would save millions of dollars and every ones time and effort to know that in advance. Everyone is going to freak if he wins and it turns out he isn't an American.
- PuterPrsn, on 10/04/2008, -12/+55I was so sure that Obama was American until his campaign insisted that they didn't NEED an official copy of his birth certificate. It would be so easy to get one and only costs a couple of dollars - I had to get one to get my passport and it took less than three weeks. It is such a simple thing, I don't understand why it hasn't been done and this circus would be over. I do wonder about it now since it would be so easy to just get it and put it all to rest.
- inactive, on 10/04/2008, -9/+50Then DNC stepped in to put a stop to this???
It is OBVIOUS that Obama has something to hide. - elleigh2, on 10/04/2008, -9/+50Another reason NOT to vote for the ONE,,,,HE IS A DAMNED LAWYER,,, and there are just too many of them in Washington!
- TYRONEBR549, on 10/04/2008, -10/+51There is NO birth certificate. If there was Obama would have produced it LOOOOOOng ago. End of story. Case closed.
- sbowers2, on 10/04/2008, -15/+55I went to BO’s site to check what was posted about his birth cert. Got linked to:
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertific ...
I noticed it’s a Certificate of Live Birth, and in the lower left corner of the document, it has Rev 11/01 LASER.
Why doesn’t he have the original, certified Birth Certificate posted?
What does he not want us to see? - buddywlkr3, on 10/04/2008, -7/+46So far, the Obama organization has relied on the fact that the Fact Check organization (run by the Annenberg Foundation) has verified to the authenticity of the document, so they feel that there is no need to produce it and silence the critics. One big problem is that the Fact Check organization is run by the Annenberg Foundation, founded by Bill Ayers, the terrorist, and Obama was the Chairman of the organization. How convenient!
- Pacer78, on 10/04/2008, -6/+44I think Mr Berg should bring a suit to halt the election until Obama provides proof to the Court or any other legally authorized entity. I'm sure McCain would be happy to supply whatever is needed to prove his eligibility although his family history is more documented than most americans.
In the future all candidates for any office should prove constitutional eligibility before the party primary
I find it hard to believe Obama would not have his attorneys supply the proof rather than this order to dismiss. If the case is only dismissed because of the plaintiffs standing, it would only cause suspicion among voters. - DCMacHead, on 10/04/2008, -3/+41the DNC's response tells you there's a problem. if there weren't a liability, they would release the document already. it suggests there's something we don't know about bill clinton's repeated references to the "constitutionally qualified candidate" during the primaries.
- inactive, on 10/04/2008, -7/+44Given Obama's unique origins and parentage, a birth certificate is a completely logical request. It is not out of line, or racist, or petty, to ask this of him. Our constitution prohibits someone who is not a natural born citizen from seeking the highest office, that is plain. And Obama's citizenship at the time of birth is questionable because of the circumstances of his origin, and that is plain as well.
If there is a question, why not simply produce the birth certificate with a raised seal to the court, and be done with it? - inactive, on 10/04/2008, -6/+42The McCain campaign should do a national ad showcasing this Democrat who wants answers. The campaign doesn't even have to accuse Obama's campaign of falsification, simply raise SUSPICIONS.
Turn the Democrats' own playbook on THEM: "Remember it's not the facts that matter, it's the SERIOUSNESS OF THE CHARGES."
Hahahahaha!!!!! - smellslikebo, on 10/04/2008, -5/+41What more solid proof do you need that there is something to hide.
AS you all have stated, if there is a real cert, then produce it, if there is NO Certificate then file to dismiss and use your Factchecks.org (Ayers, annenberg, ACORN, etc) sites to disclaim it.
It is obvious there is something to hide, or as you all have stated he would have produced one on national TV to silence everyone.
The (bo) campaign cold have cleared this, MONTHS ago, but the original one they first posted was in fact a fake since then they have changed it, to ? possibly another fake. But I believe they did NOT want to disclose anything as either case they are guilty if they got a real one, then the people would ask why did you lie and post the fake one and say it was real.
Why is your real name Barry, do you have dual citizenship? Was your mother really below the age of 18. there are so many possible questions, THAT FACT IS THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG, AS anyone that had proof to disclaim another's claim would provide the facts to silence and humiliate them. This is 100% solid proof something is corrupt. Wither he has a real one but something is wrong, or he does not Have one. Those are the facts, and to use Liberal sites to lie for him is pathetic, it should always be done in a non-bias way.
Just as John McCain was cleared in a Non-bias way.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=sr11 ...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/28/politics ...
lets see obama do that. then all will be fine. along with a NON-BIAS review of the cert and citizenship. Like on... lets see who is the only news agency NOT i n the tank for obama???? ,,,, hmmm Fox News that's it!!!! all others in the tank.
http://www.SmellsLikebo.com - inactive, on 10/04/2008, -3/+39Philip Berg, the attorney who filed the lawsuit, has a website
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
on which he has posted all the lawsuit documents (available as .pdf downloads). The lawsuit is not just about his probable Kenyan birth, it is also about his loss of U.S. citizenship (if in fact he was born in Hawaii) when he became an Indonesian citizen and his failure to re-naturalize as a U.S. citizen.
Reading the actual lawsuit is an eye-opener. - nippinawassee, on 10/04/2008, -5/+41While James Corsi is in Africa, he should get notarized statements from BO's 'family' as to where he was born, etc.
- smellslikebo, on 10/04/2008, -5/+40I suggest you all send this link to the FOXNEWS people, if enough send we might get a look into all this. AS WE ALL know NO other news agency will dare cover it. So far I think WND has been the only one.
- PuterPrsn, on 10/04/2008, -3/+38That's not official - it's a private organization. I was so sure that Obama was American until his campaign insisted that they didn't NEED an official copy of his birth certificate. It would be so easy to get one and only costs a couple of dollars - I had to get one to get my passport and it took less than three weeks. It is such a simple thing, I don't understand why it hasn't been done and this circus would be over.
- OldGaDawg, on 10/04/2008, -6/+39The next thing to ask of this possible cover up would be "What can we as Americans do to see that this lack of information or refusal to provide said information will not go un-noticed and that this and other information required by all candidates have been given up for processing the truth be known to all. That the next American President has been legally investigate to the fullest of there back ground and proven beyond any doubt of there American heritage."
- inactive, on 10/04/2008, -4/+36You know what? Even if McCain thinks it's easier to run against Obama than Hillary I STILL want to know the truth about Obama, regardless of the outcome. The AMERICAN PEOPLE deserve the truth about this shady leftist who is getting so much money - unreported - from foreign Muslim sources.
- GlobalRoamer, on 10/04/2008, -5/+37Hawaiian Birth Certificates are printed from a laser printer onto a pre-printed paper stock. It is impossible to have a valid Birth Certificate be printed off center as the one you list in your URL.
My hobby is genealogy. I have Hawaiian Birth Certificates. What they show in this URL is NOT a valid Hawaiian Birth Certificate.
Just like the smoking B. Hussein Obama I use for my logo; what is he trying to hide? - xman8, on 10/04/2008, -2/+34I cannot agree more. It is like the Liberals are trying to pull one of the biggest scams on the American people. The real concern is that at least half of America is buying it.
- beanepatch, on 10/04/2008, -3/+34Manchurian Candidate? It won't be investigated because this country is not run by the people anymore. We have gone from a representative Republic to a socialist state run by private organizations like the Fed, the globalists, and other groups that once you mention their names, you become known and branded as a conspiracy theorist. Don't expect it to get better until the American people rise up and require a return to a Republic, not a democracy.
- GlobalRoamer, on 10/04/2008, -6/+35Look at this photo:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certi ...
My hobby is genealogy.
Again, Hawaiian Birth Certificates are pre-printed on a form that is EXACTLY centered top-to-bottom and side-to-side. This photo Obama uses for proof is off centered horizontally and vertically. Most States without pre-printed forms still follow the same convention for horizontal and vertical centering.
Notice that none of the photos from the website show the edging detail or the no copy watermarks.
Either it is a poor copy or a deliberate fake. - PuterPrsn, on 10/04/2008, -5/+33Unfortunately, FactCheck is NOT an authorized governmental entity. They are simply a private institution with their own axe to grind - not partisan, mind you, but with their own private agenda. I don't wonder that Obama is a citizen - his mother was, and thus so is he, but why not just put paid to these allegations and provide a certified copy like we all have to do when applying for an inheritance or a lost bank account, or many other legal things.
- PuterPrsn, on 10/04/2008, -6/+34FactCheck is NOT an official entity - they are a private organization. I was so sure that Obama was American until his campaign insisted that they didn't NEED an official copy of his birth certificate. It would be so easy to get one and only costs a couple of dollars - I had to get one to get my passport and it took less than three weeks. It is such a simple thing, I don't understand why it hasn't been done and this circus would be over.
- susiewat, on 10/05/2008, -4/+32When applying for a job in the US proof of eligibility is required. Immigrants have to provide their alien registration numbers etc. I wonder why proof of eligibility for the most important job in the nation is so hard to come by?
- GlobalRoamer, on 10/05/2008, -3/+30I put copies of the Obama birth certificate from their own website on my profile in Digg. LOOK AT THEM. The Hawaiian Birth Certificates are centered horizontal and vertical. LOOK AT THEM. The birth certificate for Obama is off centered horizontal and vertical. This is NOT a valid birth certificate.
What is he hiding? - buddywlkr3, on 10/04/2008, -2/+28Very good point. The fact check web site is run by the Annenberg Foundation, founded by the terrorist Ayers. If you will remember, Obama once served as the Chaiman of the Annenberg Foundation. So, how convenient it is that the left wants to point to the Annenberg Fact Check site to "prove" that the birth certificate of Obama is real. Why can't Obama just produce the document before an impartial group and let them see it? Why is everything shrouded in such secrecy? What is it that he has to hide?
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 10/04/2008, -3/+29sassyannie - I know you don't have to have a birth certificate to get a driver's license. I never showed mine. And, that is the *hoopla* surrounding those from Virginia and a few other places where illegal aliens get their's from.
As long as his passport (showing whatever) is current, no problem. Although, it does seem he does NOT travel on regular airliners, does he? - xman8, on 10/04/2008, -4/+29I know you "dig Obama". But how can you argue this?
If Obama has all the credentials, then why is he not providing it?
The only thing that I can think of is that you are very young and do not know or understand why we have laws in place. - GlobalRoamer, on 10/04/2008, -3/+28Hawaiian Birth Certificates are printed from a laser printer onto a pre-printed paper stock. It is impossible to have a valid Birth Certificate be printed off center as the one you list in your URL.
My hobby is genealogy. I have Hawaiian Birth Certificates. What they show in this URL is NOT a valid Hawaiian Birth Certificate. - inactive, on 10/04/2008, -4/+29Maybe if we search Africa we can find his birth certificate? Did his mother ever visit Africa say around the early 60s? What about her passports issued, are they a matter of state record?
- enpassant, on 10/05/2008, -4/+29When I went to register my 10 year old son for little league I had to show an original BIRTH CERTIFICATE so he would be in the correct league. When I went to put my son on the plane to visit his grandfather in Hawaii, I had to show a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Why can't (won't) Barry just produce the document? Where is the accountability? Talk about a double standard...
- inactive, on 10/04/2008, -1/+25Add to the list:
The hospital he was born in.
The airline his mother flew back from Kenya on.
The date his mother flew back from Kenya.
And all the Indonesian information.
Also, why a campaign which has collected in excess of $420 Million dollars can't afford a high quality document scanner and is unable to put the documents up on his own campaign website.
Philip Berg, the attorney who filed the lawsuit, has a website ( http://www.obamacrimes.com/ ) on which he has posted all the lawsuit documents. The lawsuit is not just about his probable Kenyan birth, it is also about his loss of U.S. citizenship (if in fact he was born in Hawaii) when he became an Indonesian citizen and his failure to re-naturalize as a U.S. citizen.
Reading the actual lawsuit is an eye-opener. - proveritas, on 10/05/2008, -4/+28Mr. Berg better watch his back, if you know what I mean.
- inactive, on 10/04/2008, -1/+25From:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
"Factcheck.org has a conflict of interest in covering Barack Obama because they are owned by The Annenberg Foundation. And now they have published a new “fight the smears” story about Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth (COLB).
Remember, Senator Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation. William (Bill) Ayers, unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist and a friend of the Obamas, was instrumental in founding the Challenge, thanks to his ties to Mayor Richard Daley. The first Daley was also a pal of Thomas Ayers, Bill’s father, former CEO of ComEd (owned by Exelon).
[Incidentally, the current CEO of ComEd, Frank M. Clark, is a major money bundler for the Obama campaign.]"
Bottom line, you can't trust factcheck, they're part of the Obama organization. - PuterPrsn, on 10/04/2008, -3/+27I was so sure that Obama was American until his campaign insisted that they didn't NEED an official copy of his birth certificate. It would be so easy to get one and only costs a couple of dollars - I had to get one to get my passport and it took less than three weeks. It is such a simple thing, I don't understand why it hasn't been done and this circus would be over.
- sassyannie, on 10/04/2008, -4/+27Does he have a driver's license, a passport, both of which require a birth certificate? I don't know how one becomes a naturalized citizen but don't you have to take a citizenship test and be sworn in. Seems like that would be pretty easy to determine if that were the case.
- inactive, on 10/05/2008, -3/+26This is typical of Nobama's arrogance. He acts like he is ABOVE everyone else.. be damned if I should prove my citizenship.. Hell, I had to prove my citizenship when I got my passport. It is not a unfair request, especially considering what is at stake here.
You liberals can make all the excuses you want for this guy.. but until he produces the birth certificate he is considered a fraud by many people.. so Nobama, get off your ass and prove who you really are.. which team are you batting for.. Africa or the United States..
http://seeingright.com (personal blog)
Cheers,
Bob - tasine, on 10/04/2008, -2/+25With respect, if he wins, we will NEVER DEFINITELY know his true identity.
- Jeff82, on 10/04/2008, -2/+24I believe McCain thinks it's easier to win against BO than Hitlery so he'd rather BO stay in the game. If BO is forced out then they'll stick Hitlery in and likely take the White House.
Dems don't believe rules are for them anyway. -
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