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- jaymzdean, on 09/06/2008, -4/+76The police are terrorists.
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -1/+54His head was covered and he was gagged and he was literally tortured and abused by Police while in detention. He was taken to a hospital for his injuries.
- NeoConned08, on 09/06/2008, -2/+50Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. -JFK
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -2/+47The fascists are doing their best to get everyone accustomed to life in their totalitarian dystopia. Will people get used to it? Or will they do what they need to do and resist it with every fiber of their being?
- allowners, on 09/06/2008, -2/+44People are naive if they think such tactics will be reserved for foreigners and other "undesirables." The New World Order is here now, it's called corporatism and the US is simply the host colony for this global fascism. People have been wearing a bag over their head for a long time. They spelled out the sum total of your choices some time ago, "you are either with us or against us."
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -1/+41This has barely caused a blip on the MSM. Here's the only article I could find, the whole basis of this article is that Elliot is lying. If the MSM would do their job we wouldn't be heading towards a Police State like we are now.
"Man says police beat, tortured him in jail"
http://www.startribune.com/local/west/27891909.htm ...
Sheriff Bob Fletcher said that Hughes was "extremely disruptive" and that "it took some force to control him." The sheriff said that the jail has a lot of recording devices and that they would provide evidence of what happened.
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I'd like to see those tapes - unedited. I'm sure his attorneys will be very interested. We already have videos of his arrest which show the Police had no reason to detain him in the first place. The torture just compounds the case against the Police. - graphictype, on 09/06/2008, -1/+38Here is the arrest video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNc9ImWpNT0 - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -2/+35I submitted the arrest video in graphictypes comment.
It shows the Police were the ones that entered into the area where the protesters were marching and caused the bike collision that ended in Elliot's arrest. Please digg.
"2008 RNC : Protester arrested for "falling" off his bike"
http://digg.com/politics/2008_RNC_Protester_arrest ... - unlawflcombatnt, on 09/06/2008, -1/+28(from the 2nd video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNc9ImWpNT0 ) The Police were following extremely close, in what appeared to be a deliberate attempt to cause an incident.
What possible reason was there for a swarm of Policemen on bicycles to be trailing a peaceful march by only a few feet? The only reason was a deliberate attempt by the Police to create an incident. (And they succeeded.)
Elliot Hughes, the subject of the video, was standing away from the fray at the side of the road with his bicycle, when the Police forced him to the ground face down, and cuffed him behind his back. (I had to watch the first few minutes of the video several times to follow this.) There was no reason whatsoever to push Hughes to the ground in order to cuff him. He wasn't armed, he wasn't threatening, and he wasn't the slightest bit combative. He was standing still holding his bicycle.
The Police that forced him to the ground SHOULD be fired, and sued for excessive use of force. This was clear-cut excessive use of force by the police.
And in the bigger picture, the Police caused the whole incident, by trying to intimidate the marchers by trailing them so closely.
Even without Hughes's testimony about his abuse while in jail, he was wronged. He was arrested as if he were a violent, combative, and armed felony suspect. The video clearly shows that he was none of these. - AdmiralHalsey, on 09/06/2008, -0/+26All of these events are slowly escalating, getting a little worse each time. Not allowing the exercise of the most basic of our rights, wrongfully arresting and charging protesters, and then possible outright torture of our own citizens? Scary
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -1/+27From Fox News:
http://www.myfoxlubbock.com/myfox/pages/News/Polit ...
"Whoever got arrested was whoever didn't disperse and was still on the bridge," Fletcher said. "The tactic of blocking people on the bridge could very well have prevented a lot of activity later tonight. Clearly there were a number of people with no intention of being law-abiding tonight."
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So this really is 1984 and Fletcher is the Thought Police. He ordered people arrested because of their "intent". Not because of anything they had done!!! - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -1/+17The Pain Compliance which Elliot describes is part of Police training. I found this article online:
http://www.officer.com/web/online/Operations-and-T ...
"In the police academy, I was fortunate (depending on how you look at it) to have been on the receiving end of some perfectly executed pain compliance techniques, such as wristlocks, twist locks, and bar arm control holds. Even more memorable were pressure point applications to my mastoid (located in the area under the ear, near the jaw line), salivary gland (located under of the jaw line), and the sterno-clavicular nerve (located between the collarbone and the top of the sternum) just to name a few. These techniques were so painful that I assumed they were near foolproof. That is until I graduated from the academy and tried some of them on uncooperative suspects."
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It seems like this technique is designed to be used while arresting someone. Any use in a detention center can only be called torture. More than likely Elliot was already fully restrained when this was being done. He describes having a hood over his head and being gagged. He may also have been in a restraint chair at the time, although it is not clear from his statement.
Here's an article about the abuse of Restraint Chairs used in prisons. Also known as Devil's Chairs.
http://www.progressive.org/mag_cusacchair - ad33lshahid, on 09/06/2008, -0/+16i wish there was like a group of well trained people financed by the public that served the interests of the civilians, we could call them something like policemen or policewomen
- zmedico, on 09/06/2008, -1/+15Just as torturing prisoners of war puts one's own soldiers in greater danger, so does torturing civilians put police in greater danger.
- DemDude, on 09/06/2008, -0/+12Dear U.S.A.
THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING YOU BURN.
As it's citizen, it is YOUR TURN, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, to END THIS HIPOCRISY!
Only you can use your voices and, if necessary, your fists to defend your rights. Your own country is turning against you and the entire world.
DO SOMETHING!
Also, read George Orwell's 1984, it's like the republicans and the police used it for guidelines... It's very alarming.
Regards,
The Rest Of The World
PS: WHY THE ***** IS MY TEXTBOX DOING THE BOOGY?! Get your ***** sorted out, digg! - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -0/+11That from a man who had leftists assassinated on three continents.
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -0/+11You mean the state educated sheeple who can't find Iraq on a map?
It'll take mass incarcerations and blatant and graphic abuses for a few of them to get off their asses.
So long as they're comfortable and ignorant, nothing will happen.
This is true for all nations. - Infidelcastr0, on 09/06/2008, -1/+11Raise your hand if you didn't already see this coming in 2000.
- stinkymonkey, on 09/07/2008, -0/+10At some point, the police forgot they are supposed to protect us, not kill and hurt us. But sadly, I don't think they ever tried to protect us.
- ad33lshahid, on 09/06/2008, -0/+10too bad the same ruling-class-elite who stand to benefit from such a state are the ones pedaling mainstream propaganda outfitted as news.
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -1/+11I think that was actually Ghandi who said that, the quote of course is excellent.
- zmedico, on 09/07/2008, -0/+9Please digg this related Firedoglake post too:
Sadism, Cruelty, Torture In The Twin Cities: Professional Cultural Norms For US “Law” Enforcement
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Sadism_Cruelty_T ...
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Police_Assault_o ... - ad33lshahid, on 09/06/2008, -1/+9agreed, it seems as though there will be one straw that'll ultimately break the camels back
- thecatcantalk, on 09/07/2008, -0/+8Remember the kids in high school who looked clean-cut but were actually the biggest thugs in the whole school? The ones who would drive from party to party, stealing kegs, groping girls, starting fistfights, stealing lawn furniture and doing doughnuts on other people's lawns? The kids who thought it was funny to bury a shotgun shell in the dirt of a campfire ring? The kids who shaved your mom's cat?
Yeah, well, those kids are all grown up now. And they're cops.
Forty years old, but still cruising all night, starting fights, terrorizing hookers, beating up Indians and generally ***** ***** up. *spits* - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -2/+10Absolutely correct. The raids on "illegal immigrants" are a warm up act for the Police State. Defend the rights of undocumented workers, or you may find yourself with no rights either.
- eldudereno, on 09/07/2008, -0/+7Makes me wonder about Guantanamo and Abu Garib prisons. america has now become like its enemy's and foreign dictators that it sponsors, just what the terrorists wanted
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -3/+10One way that they are getting us accustomed to totalitarian rule is by raiding "illegal immigrant" workplaces with SWAT teams. Allowing this type of abuse of undocumented workers sets a precedent for the mass arrest of protesters at the RNC.
Working is not a crime! - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -1/+8You can digg that video here:
http://digg.com/politics/2008_RNC_Protester_arrest ... - inactive, on 09/07/2008, -0/+7Why is MSM ignoring this, ANSWERE US GODDAMNIT! If they have the little Digg guy next to their stories on their huge news websites, they know that we know what the hell is up, but why do they continue treating us like such morons? Stop ignoring the real topics at hand, stop double-talking, stop giving us the ***** run around cause we are SICK of it!
- unlawflcombatnt, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6"The New World Order is here now, it's called corporatism and the US is simply the host colony for this global fascism."
Well said, 'allowners'.
You're right on the money. - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -1/+7Francis? And sorry I don't think Americans torturing Americans is funny, I think it's sick and unConstitional.
- xenuxenuts, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5remember, government > people.
- swrostmore, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5The RNC cut a deal with the City of St. Paul wherein the RNC will foot the bill for the majority of lawsuit settlements which result from the police response around the convention.
It's a win-win situation - the RNC ensures that free speech around their convention is adequately suppressed, and St. Paul government officials ensure that there is no taxpayer backlash as voters' money is used to pay for wrongful arrest settlements. - swrostmore, on 09/07/2008, -0/+5Yes, its hard to imagine any reason why someone who was knocked unconscious by having their head slammed into a concrete floor would have difficulty remembering anything.
- dracostimpy, on 09/06/2008, -3/+7Lighten up, Francis. I think you and the other 8 people who dugg me down all need to get a funny bone transplant. I thought the "FEED HIM PORK!" with reference to a non-Muslim would be enough to ensure that people understood I was being facetious. After all, if we can't laugh at Americans being tortured by fellow Americans, what CAN we laugh at?
- noupsell, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4ramsey cnty jail is a warm snuggle place compared to minn work farms and a likely model for future prisoners of the police state
- zephyear, on 09/07/2008, -1/+5disarm the police
- DemDude, on 09/07/2008, -0/+4Way to be the stereotype of the self-absorbed, dim-witted American!
Us being jealous of you? Please. Our economy isn't going right into the gutter, our politicians aren't nearly as corrupt as yours. We don't get beaten up AND TORTURED by our own police. Our troops don't torture prisoners of war. Your troops torture them for fun.
Also, if you don't want anyone to get in your affairs, why do you insist on playing the world police? Why do you go to war all the time? Against countries that have never done anything to the USA?
People like you are the plight of the USA, people like you are running your country into the ground! - NonServium, on 09/07/2008, -0/+4*me raises hand*
I didn't wake up to the realities of our government until sometime in 2002.
Next test, raise your hand if you don't already see that Obama will continue and expand this should he become "elected", (of course, McCain will too, but I imagine you already know that). - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -2/+5I wouldn't laugh too hard there draco if we give these bastards that much power they'll want more, are you the right kind of fundie Christian to not get your ass tortured under President Palin?
- inactive, on 09/06/2008, -2/+5Hang those ***** pigs. The police are now the terrorists. It's a police state, violence is needed. Chanting will do *****.
- inactive, on 09/07/2008, -0/+3YES!!! Not that is a damn good point, and I'm glad someone besides me made it!!! I have NO sympathy for the damn cops!!!
- hoyaman, on 09/07/2008, -0/+3According to the Second amendment, we call them "militia."
OR, next group of protesters could hire Blackwater for themselves. - patrickbwells, on 09/07/2008, -0/+3I agree. But when law enforcement thinks its okay to attack people because they are exercising their Constitutional rights, what can be done?
- inactive, on 09/07/2008, -0/+2Thank you for mentioning militias. It is long past time that everyone able to use a gun of any kind get all they can get their hands on!!! Stock up on ammunition, and someone organize a militia of the willing from across the nation who are committed to saving America!!!
- inactive, on 09/07/2008, -0/+2You think our own citizens aren't tortured already?
- inactive, on 09/07/2008, -0/+2You've probably figured out by now that this story was buried. I submitted a new story on Elliot Hughes.
"Elliot Hughes: American Hero"
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Elliot_Hughes_Am ... - patrickbwells, on 09/07/2008, -0/+2Im not sure what part your talking about, but I thought the video was pretty interesting because it clearly shows that the protester, who had just been in a bicycle wreck, was standing still with his bike when the ossifers jumped him.
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