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- portis, on 10/12/2007, -21/+57Next, we need to confirm the correlation between donkey ass sniffing and scientologists.
- dgendreau, on 10/12/2007, -13/+46I hate Bush and all, but Correlation is not Causation. This is just retarded. If anything, its probably Republicans promoting this news story hoping lefties will take the bait.
- isemism, on 10/12/2007, -20/+37FTA: “Bush supporters had significantly less knowledge about current issues, government and politics than those who supported Kerry,” the study says.
Thanks Fox News! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21dgendreau:
"I hate Bush and all, but Correlation is not Causation."
What you're stating is a logical fallacy only in cases where you're trying to prove causation. This study did no such thing. It was specifically showing correlation, which is a perfectly valid analysis of data.
"Group A is more likely than Group B to agree with Proposition X."
If I'm analyzing this wrong, please call me out on it and tell me what a doofus I am. :) - camix, on 10/12/2007, -10/+26This is a ridiculous study and should be buried as inaccurate or just straight up lame. In a country of over 300 million people (122,293,332 who voted and 62,040,610 that voted for Bush in 2004) 69 outpatients from Connecticut represent all Bush supporters? I like to consider myself a moderate and neither a Dem or Rep but come on people you can't possibly be taking this article serious??? I'd bet more than half the people that are digging this aren't even reading it. I'd like to think that people are digging this up because they read the article and believed what it says rather than digging it up because they just hate Bush. I would also like to believe that any semi intelligent person would've seen that sample size and immediately labeled this post as inaccurate. I mean come on people you don't have to be a Statistics major to see that.
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19No no no, DV, read it again, it starts out saying:
"A collective “I told you so” will ripple through the world of Bush-bashers once news of Christopher Lohse’s study gets out.
Lohse, a social work master’s student at Southern Connecticut State University, says he has proven what many progressives have probably suspected for years: a direct link between mental illness and support for President Bush."
That is the authors little piece of ***** contribution to this article, he is trying to make it sound like only the mentally ill voted for Bush.
The article goes on to say that the study really says that people suffering from psychosis vote for authoriatarians. A completely different reality that what the author was trying to spread. It's unecessary crap and poor writing. - krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -6/+21“Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,” Lohse says. “If your world is very mixed up, there’s something very comforting about someone telling you, ‘This is how it’s going to be.’”
your headline and description totally neglect to mention this. stop foxing. - johndi, on 10/12/2007, -18/+32They didn't uncover anything new, used a ridiculously small sample group, and are presenting it in a misleading way by hyping the Bush angle upfront before casually getting down to the real findings of the study. You could say the same for any authoritarian figure, but they decided to turn science into politics.
- mjl5629, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20Good idea... but the survey only draws on 69 participants.
- LaueOfficer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Buried as lame, if this was directed at any other group of people (minorities, liberals, etc) then it would be flamed to hell as derogatory.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+21stooge88, do me a favor. Look up at the summary of this submission and then look at the line right under it. See what it says there?
Topic: Political News
Let me tell you something, don't even waste your time spewing your holier-than-thou ***** when you don't have the common sense to go into your profile page and UNCHECK any category you don't want to see on the front page -- like, you know, Political News or Political Opinion, or any of the countless other categories that exist specifically for this purpose.
You say Digg has been infiltrated by non-geeks? Well, guess what, you're one of them. Any geek would be smart enough to understand how to use this damn website. - dampeal, on 10/12/2007, -13/+22Oh look, another Bush Bash fest on Digg... Dugg Down... as innacurate and just lame, yes I'm a repbulican but the story is just a lame attempt to twist things. what they want you to believe or infer from this is that those mental patients went out and voted for Bush. It's a minuscule sampling, I'm sure I could got out and find 69 mentally ill people that prefer Kerry...
- 1111, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18First, the sample size is too small. Secondly, even if they did show correlation that does not equal causation, as there could be a spurious relationship between the two. And all of this I learned in a lower division poli sci course. The only response this merits is that "I want to believe" UFO picture.
- LaueOfficer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Damn, I guess the "unbiased study base" was a little hard to find, i wonder what state he was in, that MIGHT throw it off a LITTLE bit [/sarcasm]
- SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8yesterday conservatives were labeled evil, today bush supporters are insane.
what are dems then? pinko commie naive hippies? - serpicolugnut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10OK, Here's my "scientific" study.
Left leaning people are more prone to mental illness than those who lean right.
My study is supported by the actions of the following leftists:
Barbara Streisand, Alec Baldwin, Michael Moore, Cameron Diaz, Madonna, Snoop Dogg, Howard Dean, Al Sharpton, Dennis Kucinich, Ted Kennedy, Natalie Maines, Michael Richards, Patty Murray, John Kerry, George Michael and Elton John.
The above is just a partial list. To make the list, the leftist must have made a crazy statement or perform a crazy act in the last 5 years.
Where's my Nobel prize? - KingPhallus, on 10/12/2007, -19/+26self described "Reagan revolution fanatic" qualifies as a lib these days? You bush supporters really are ***** crazy.
- corporate70, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Hmm, so instead of engaging Bush supporters on a intellectual and rational level, just call them retarted.
Sounds like a cop out to me. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9This article does not say people who vote for Bush are psychotic, this article says that psychotic people in Connecticut vote for authoritative leaders. It implies that all psychotic people may vote for authoritative leaders.
This is just lame. - ccrook, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@CopperFalcon
You mean being uninformed like inner city voters who are anti-intellectual sheep just as much as the religious right? - digdug135, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Buried as inaccurate. It does not show "GWB voters" are more likely to have mental illness. It purports to show that those with certain disorders are more likely to support a particular type of leader. And, for the record, we should probably never rely on someone who is a "social work master’s student".
- jonathan70, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Setting aside all issues of validity of the study:
Note that the Bush-supporting "psychotics" were mental PATIENTS. In other words, they were getting help for their mental illness.
The insane who are so insane that they don't even know that they are insane support Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha, Alcee Hastings, and read Daily Kos. There is a name for them: moonbats. - dontspamjay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Inaccurate
- MoonDogAFO, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7UGH - buried as INACCURATE.
Look at the title of this Digg, "Correlation between mental illness and GW Bush voters". And now, what does the article actually spell out? As people have demonstrated, it states that people with mental illness tend to prefer an authoritative leader. This is a clear attempt by the poster to stir the pot.
What's worse is that the publication's editor and (possibly) the author of the article use the titles and the first 2 paragraphs to establish EXACTLY that tone, instead of just reporting the facts.
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Bush Nuts
Are George W. Bush lovers certifiable?
A collective “I told you so” will ripple through the world of Bush-bashers once news of Christopher Lohse’s study gets out.
Lohse, a social work master’s student at Southern Connecticut State University, says he has proven what many progressives have probably suspected for years: a direct link between mental illness and support for President Bush.
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Look at the last sentence in the 2nd paragraph: where in the rest of the article does the study's originator state that he has a direct link between mental illness and support for Bush? Nowhere!
Here is the last sentence of paragraph #3: "The more psychotic the voter, the more likely they were to vote for Bush." Is this statement inaccurate in itself? No, but the proper way to phrase it was to say, "The more psychotic the patient, the more likely they were to vote for an authoritative candidate - in this case, Bush."
I'm also concerned about the statement regarding the 1977 study showing that similar patients preferred Nixon over McGovern in the 1972 election? Why go back that far, when they were so close to the Ford/Carter election of 1976? Is it because neither of those cadidates was really "authoritative" enough?
I have no problem with a Master's thesis using the sample that they did, nor do I have a problem with the conclusion. Hell, I came to the same conclusion before I had even gotten past Paragraph #2. Isn't it funny that the professor overseeing the project states that “You can ask new questions of the data. I haven’t looked at” Lohse’s conclusions regarding Bush. Not exactly a ringing endorsement there about these conclusions. This guy should have stuck to his original thesis and left the politicizing alone. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+22I think the person that submitted this as being news worthy has some sort of mental illness -- Buried!
- tablatronix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"When someone's life is total chaos they will seek out order. That is not new, psychiatrists have known it for years."
Leaders have known it for a few thousand years. They have also known that to control your people you have to sometimes create the chaos.
I still prefer public works as a means of focusing the masses. - saigumi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Alphabet,
Done.
I asked 3 other people here at work what their last rated IQ test was and who they voted for in 2004. Turns out that that those 3 people average 112 and all voted for Bush. Having used a sampling sized that is insignificantly different in percentage than the one in the article. This "proved" that Bush supporters are extremely smart to genius in level. Hrm.. I guess it also "proved" that no one voted for anyone besides Bush in 2004 as well.
Learn how to read a poll first, kthxbye. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14Thanks for sharing you generalisations and stereotypes guys, it happens that a lot of us voted for Bush because Kerry was an incompetent lying knob. But you know delude yourselves if you must.
The man lies and confesses in the same sentence. Bush is a harmless jabbering moron, it's the administration that a lot of us wanted gone. I personally liek the current balance, no one side should hold a majority at every level of government. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10Meh. What a sad ***** inflammatory piece of ***** this article is. And I say that as a moderate libertarian who ***** despises Bush and his theocons, not a "Bush voter" or GOP voter.
- elebrio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6But what about the correlation between Liberals and Buttplug usage?
- pcx99, on 10/12/2007, -10/+15But it's OK when democrats do it.
- Bryan6Aero, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10This reminds me of the highly acclaimed study that found that people who try to use the social sciences to validate their political ideology tend to be *****.
- sylentmode, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"People with mental illness supporting Bush != People supporting Bush being mentally ill"
exactly, this shows how knowledgeable some of the people are who are reading this.
What if an article said that 93% of African Americans from a specific small urban area vote democratic?
Does that mean that if you are democratic, you must be black?
This is a dumb article, and people are definitely twisting the results - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Copper quit trolling, you know damn well that the description, title and first half of this article are all meant to mislead the readers. Anyone who read the entire thing would understand what the findings actually were and have every right to complain about all the retards who are digging this crap.
- Brewdaddy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@ stooge88
*COUGH* Tool. - corporate70, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Don't democrats support a bigger government? (Socialized meds, gov monopoly on education, etc.)
Wouldn't that suggest that Democrats like authorative figures? Don't get me wrong I think the article is bogus.... I'm just showing a flaw in the logic. - ccrook, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8It's not so much that Bush supporters tend to be psychotic as psychotics tend to be Bush supporters.
That's a key difference there. - The_Wallbanger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Interesting read, more for the science of the mentally ill rather than the politics. Just remember, a disproportionate number of mentally ill patients may support the President, but Bush supporters themselves don't have a disproportionate amount of mentally ill people in their demographic.
- SpacemanSpiff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Why do I get the feeling you're not even old enough to vote?
- ckrimmel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4HAHA - Southern Connecticut State University - wow that's good.
“Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,”
This fool must be kidding. That is the absolute worst conclusion I have ever heard in my life. He goes on to say: “Bush supporters had significantly less knowledge about current issues, government and politics than those who supported Kerry,”
all his conclusions are drawn from the massive number of people he conducted this study on - all 69 of them. WOW. - erickf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This article is ridiculous.
- Jagdhund, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3First of all, didn't we have a similar discussion yesterday about the mental status of conservatives? This one just happens to be more bluntly spun by the author.
In any case, I prefer my leaders to have some authority, and to make the tough decisions that ordinary folks don't have to think about. Perhaps sometimes they make the wrong decisions, like Bush has, but that does not mean an authoritive president is a bad thing. It just happens to be what leaders do for a living... they lead. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7While it's clear that Copper is a troll. There is nothing wrong with the survey itself, this is some kids Masters study, not a full blown scientific study of the entire country. The results really don't even require publishing. The anti-bush spin comes in solely through the author.
- saigumi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Copperfalcon,
69 people are not FACTS.
Get your Democrat head out of your Democrat ass and realize that this "Scientific" study is flawed from the start and that this was just another lame attempt to bash Bush. Any scientist knows that a 0.000000023% sampling hardly makes for any sort of proof. - mickisdaddy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5People with mental illness supporting Bush != People supporting Bush being mentally ill
- mrnukem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I hate to break it to everyone but there is not that much difference between the 2 parties and any candidate they produce. Everyone who runs for office now trys so hard to move to the "center" and please everyone.
A lot of what is being said now about GW and Iraq was said about LBJ and Vietnam. Its just a cluster fu_K that never ends. - Larofeticus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The conclusion is crazy people are more likely to vote for bush.
The conclusion is not that people who vote for bush are more likely to be crazy.
I tremble in fear at the likes of the all powerful mental patient voting bloc. - SpacemanSpiff, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7"Lohse says the trend isn’t unique to Bush: A 1977 study by Frumkin & Ibrahim found psychiatric patients preferred Nixon over McGovern in the 1972 election."
Looks like they prefer the incumbent more than anything. - CosmoP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Too late, there is already a book out called "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder".
- rabiddogma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is old, I mean it's self evident right?
In other news ... the sun came up this morning. -
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