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- MarkCiccone, on 01/02/2009, -80/+258So Republicans are going to prevent a man who a majority of the state elected from taking his rightful seat? Unbelievable. These Republicans would rather a dictatorship then? This is what democracy is...sometimes the people elect some one you'd rather not see elected, how do you think nearly half the country felt who did not vote for Bush?
- Lomstradamus, on 01/02/2009, -48/+224"Coleman lost, Get over it and move on"
Remember hearing that from the righties when Bush stole the 2000 election?
LOL!! - MiddleAmerica, on 01/02/2009, -35/+149
There is no evidence that the Democrats cheated in any way.
Pre-election polls & exit polls also agree.
- JenniferInMO, on 01/02/2009, -43/+139The Republicans would rather prevent Minnesota from having anyone serve their interests in that seat? If I was a Minnesotan I would be livid. This idiot from Texas has a lot of nerve working to prevent Minnesota from having a second voice in the Senate? What's wrong with giving the Senate seat to Franken provisionally?
btw: aren't the 2 lawsuits pending against Coleman for the return of illegally laundered cash filed in Texas by a Texan and a Texas based business? Please correct me if I am wrong here. - JimMayJr, on 08/06/2009, -8/+76They want to push back the seating until the recount and legal cases are completely finished.
"But since Minnesota state law won’t provide Franken a certificate of election with an election contest pending, seating Franken could be a risky and difficult proposition. Franken leads the race by 49 votes with all challenged ballots resolved, but Coleman’s campaign is attempting to include about 650 improperly rejected absentee ballots from areas friendly to the incumbent. That would be on top of about 1,350 improperly rejected absentees already designated by recount officials. Beyond that, Coleman is expected to take up a legal challenge to the result." - AllHereTruth, on 01/03/2009, -24/+91Really?
There is NO evidence the Dems...or ANYONE...are stealing this election. The votes got counted. Then recounted. Then checked over. There were challenges from BOTH sides. Those got rechecked. Then counted or not.
There were reps for both Franken AND Coleman. There were lawyers involved. Absentee ballots that were improperly rejected were properly counted.
After all that we have a winner. Franken. He won. He got more votes. And for those saying ACORN ACORN ACORN: ACORN had nothing to do with anything. at all. They grow from trees. Grow up. - apastafarian, on 01/02/2009, -29/+88Franken will eventually be seated and this will be much to do about nothing. OTH, republicans with actions like this, seem bent on handing the democrats that elusive filibuster proof majority in 2 years. It's almost like they don't realize that they're one election away from insignificance.
- allowners, on 01/02/2009, -22/+80Why wasn't this concern present in 2000 when the Supreme Court ruled that counting the votes would taint Bush's throne seat, ruling in effect that he was the pre-ordained leader and that the voting was a mere formality?
- AllHereTruth, on 01/03/2009, -13/+48On a side note, vidgms the OP, has 959 'Friends'
He sent over 300 shouts in the last hour for THIS story alone
In 1 minute time he Dugg: 2 videos, 6 full articles, and 2 images
FYI - ScienceDoc, on 01/02/2009, -45/+80Can we please give Texas back to Mexico?
- inactive, on 01/03/2009, -12/+46First, they need to grow a brain. Then a heart.
- novenator, on 01/03/2009, -1/+31Cornyn stated, "I think it is very clear that the people of Minnesota and the courts in Minnesota should make the decision about who won the Minnesota Senate election"
Yeah, Minnesotans should decide this, not some right wing nutcase from Texas who once tried to abolish the fillibuster when the republicans had a super-majority in the US Senate - inactive, on 01/02/2009, -13/+43ACORN - again, lame. Which election did Gov. Gregoire steal 04? So what did she do to win again- besides running against Dino Rossi who is a slime ball. Do you have any proof, sources, or just a hunch and sour grapes(?)... I wonder what the world would be like if Bush didn't beg, borrow, and STEAL to become the worst president in history- like a run away train. That's all been pretty well documented... "Kalifornia"- never been there is it part of Disney?
- publiclurker, on 01/03/2009, -15/+44I think we would have to sweeten the pot before Mexico would be interested.
- inactive, on 01/03/2009, -17/+46It's too bad the Republicans didn't institute the nuclear option for filibusters that we heard about oh so long ago. From the sounds of the Republican harping at the time, you'd have thought that it was a travesty of justice for the filibuster to exist at all.
Now it is ever so convenient isn't it hypocrites? - absurdist, on 01/03/2009, -7/+36I wasn't aware that Franken being elected was going to strip anyone of their rights.
- Maddoktor2, on 01/03/2009, -27/+55Why do republicans hate America?
- mentallyinhell, on 01/03/2009, -19/+46Has anyone else ever thought of a filibuster as a childish ploy?
- crispy, on 01/03/2009, -10/+37@MarkCiccone, so you think that the two thousand absentee voters who were not counted should be ignored? I don't like filibusters, no matter who uses them, but it does seem improper to seat someone as senator when the election results have not been fully determined by the elections officials.
- Dhalsim007, on 01/03/2009, -5/+30It's not "rightful" until the final court appeals are made. The same rights would be given to Franken if he were behind. Also, the election can't be certified by the state until those court challenges are done, so Franken can't be sent as the state's Senator until he has that certification.
- absurdist, on 01/03/2009, -11/+34I seem to remember several Republican operatives being convicted on election fraud charges last year. I also seem to remember a lot of bleating on the right about ACORN which went nowhere. Rumor and innuendo do not a case make.
From Wikipedia, re Loretta Sanchez: "A Congressional investigation found evidence that 624 votes were indeed cast by non-citizens. An additional 124 votes had already been thrown out by California officials. These votes were not enough to throw Sanchez's victory into doubt, so the investigation was halted and the outcome was upheld by a Republican-controlled Congress." Note: Republican-controlled congress.
B-1 Bob, is that you? - SteveMTyler, on 01/03/2009, -1/+24why don't you just admit you were wrong and misread the "one election away"?
- JigoroKano, on 01/03/2009, -3/+26Provide some facts then. What's the evidence? You don't need evidence to sue somebody. Coleman has sued the past 2 or 3 people that ran against him over nothing. He is litigious.
If anyone is stupid it's you and your failed reading comprehension and/or understanding of the U.S. legal system.
Franken and Coleman are an a statistical tie. The difference in their votes is comparable to the measurement error. There has been nothing to suggest foul play. The results could easily flip back and forth up until the point at which they stop counting, and as per their laws that point has already passed. - Lomstradamus, on 01/03/2009, -29/+52Coleman is a LOSER!!!
- EjectGoose, on 01/03/2009, -19/+41All this article says is that Cornyn would support a filibuster against a Senator-elect that had not yet been officially certified by the state he is to represent. I don't have a problem with that. And, come on, let's not pretend the Dems wouldn't do the same thing if the roles were reversed.
- AllHereTruth, on 01/03/2009, -2/+24Wow. Looking at your comment history i am shocked you still have an account on Digg.
- Dustin00, on 01/03/2009, -10/+31Republicans: State's Rights!
(sir, the state chose a Democrat)
Republicans: FEDERAL POWERS! - cg4et, on 01/03/2009, -6/+27Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence!
- buckrogers1965, on 01/03/2009, -1/+22The actual truth is that when they recounted every vote for the whole state Gore won.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/jan/29/uselec ...
"Al Gore, not George Bush, should be sitting in the White House today as the newly elected president of the United States, two new independent probes of the disputed Florida election contest have confirmed."
But hey, don't let reality stop your delusional view of the world. - xGeneric, on 01/03/2009, -4/+24Indeed. I'm sure the instant reaction to the headline, especially on Digg, is "OMG Republicans trying to keep a democratically elected Democraft out of office... how low can they get?"(I won't lie, that was my instant reaction), but after reading the article, Cornyn has the right to try and get every vote counted in such a hotly contested election.
Of course, some people are either so biased towards one particular party that they don't care about the process of Democratic elections, or they automatically assume the worst from a particular party that they feel they don't need to read the article before commenting.
Sorry Mark, it seems you jumped the gun on this. It's not his "rightful seat" until he gets the majority of the votes. Apparently, they're still counting, so hold your judgment until the process has taken it's course. - JimMayJr, on 08/06/2009, -10/+30Texas is one of the only states who's local economies are doing fairly well. The state makes too much money to get rid of.
- absurdist, on 01/03/2009, -19/+38Did you miss the part about "one election away"? Or "that elusive filibuster majority in two years"?
I know, reading is hard. Maybe a remedial course in reading for comprehension would help. - senatorpjt2, on 01/03/2009, -3/+22Why couldn't anyone do this over something important, like giving a trillion dollars away to a bunch of banks?
- absurdist, on 01/03/2009, -7/+26@ThinkOutTheBox:
"There are 34 seats up for re-election in 2010 the next election cycle. "
"Further more 15 democratic seats are up for reelection."
Let's see... basic math... 34 seats up for election, 15 Democratic seats up for reelection... that leaves 19 Republican seats up for reelection. Even if Coleman manages to pull this out of his ass, there are still roughly twice as many seats up for grabs as the Dems need to take a filibuster-proof majority. Given the current state of the Republican party, I don't see that as an insurmountable task. Saxby Chambliss winning in THIS election cycle has little to do with what may happen in the NEXT election cycle. You know, the one in two years the OP spoke of.
And of course, I meant "that elusive filibuster-proof majority," as the OP mentioned. - cg4et, on 01/03/2009, -0/+17Susan Collins. Olympia Snowe. George Voinovich. John McCain.
Something tells me that, on a lot of issues, getting one more vote is not going to be a problem. - absurdist, on 01/03/2009, -4/+21@ThinkOutTheBox:
I'll ignore your ad hominem attack on me ("actually read somethings outside of Digg and quit forming your political opinion based off of what is flavor of the week") and leave you with the words of Frank Zappa, as he was contemplating running for president (1992):
"The way I look at it, take a look at the people who have been Presidents of the United States so far. Could I do any worse? If I didn't know ***** from Shinola, could I do any worse?"
Given how far the bar has been lowered by the current occupant of the White House, all Obama has to do is keep the the seat warm and he'll do a better job.
BTW, I do agree with you about throwing both parties out and giving some independents a chance. However, given the political climate in the bulk of the country, that's not likely to happen any time soon. - CrackWilding, on 01/03/2009, -0/+17As I read it, those 200 mysterious votes are nothing more than a rumor propagated by Republican operatives. They never existed. You'll note, if you try to find articles about mystery votes, that the only sources are publications like Newsmax, which cites the AP (without any links, interestingly). But guess what? The AP articles they cite are nowhere to be found.
Most mainline Republicans (Tim Pawlenty, for example) have long since realized the foolishness of these sort of accusations where there's no evidence. I suggest you join us here in the real world. - q00u, on 01/03/2009, -4/+20I live in Washington. We all get our ballots WELL in advance of elections; three days aren't going to make much of a difference.
And ACORN... you do know that ACORN fights against voter fraud, right? I remember my roommate watching FOX News and the person on had a stack of voter registrations and was going on and on about how every single one they had looked at so far was fraudulent, and they all came from ACORN.
And then a representative from ACORN came on, and said "Well DUH! That's the stack we made of all the registrations that we THOUGHT were fake! But we have to turn them in anyway, because that's the LAW. We set them aside so that you'll KNOW that they're probably FAKE! OF COURSE every one you've checked so far is fraudulent! We told you they would be!" Only she wasn't shouting, I only =wish= she were.
And nobody remembered that part. They only heard that first soundbite, about all the fraudulent ACORN registrations, even though that was a complete Republican fabrication. Just like "Al Gore claimed he invented the Internet!", the lie gets so big so fast (ignorant) people don't have time to hear the truth.
It's really quite frustrating. - sugarazor, on 01/03/2009, -10/+26Funny that Republicans suddenly care about making sure that all votes are counted and elections are won fairly... only took them eight years.
- Spytap, on 01/03/2009, -3/+18@lootermcbear: "your correct...your too stupid to understand it."
I rest my case. - mrcaulfield, on 01/03/2009, -7/+21You sure are hard on Texans. At least we're putting Cheney & Rove's feet to the fire, yeah?
- draculthemad, on 01/03/2009, -2/+16The question isn't that they 'appeared', since they were all for properly registered voters.
The question is:
*What the hell were they doing in the trunks of election officials that happen to be registered republicans?*
Its not like someone showed up with an extra box of ballots to be counted, you know.
It was more like, "Your precinct recorded X votes, the number you submitted to the central office came up short. If those votes show up before Friday, I guess we wont have to have the FBI come around and ask you where the missing ones wandered off to"
Guess what? I think I might know where those might have got lost at, let me go look...
Then Coleman pitches a fit and tries to keep them from being counted. Queue the DNC lawyers asking if they *really* want the movements of those ballot boxes to start coming up in discovery. Either they have to accept that they were in the officials custody at all times and were just honestly misplaced, or the DNC would be happy to open an investigation if it would make you happy...
GOP lawers concede the point, Judge rules in favor of the DNC by reason of the other party not coming up with a compelling reason to argue they shouldnt. Rinse, Repeat.
You seem to be confused about recent history, the republicans have been in control of the state in question's apparatus of power for quite some time now. Its not like the democrats are somehow managing to rig a machine that's been tended by the party in power, you know.
Rather, it is that the results are so close, and suddenly the close scrutiny is dragging a lot of the small time stuff out into the light of day. - emkaysmith, on 01/03/2009, -1/+14Speaking as a Texan-in-exile, the fact that Texas overwhelmingly elected Bush to the statehouse TWICE, and then supported him for president just as overwhelmingly, says nothing good about Texas voters.
I sure miss the days of Ralph Yarborough, Sissy Farenthold, and Jim Hightower. - inactive, on 01/03/2009, -15/+28Coleman only got in the senate because Wellstone died in a plane crash! I think Coleman needs to shut up and go away!
- issaccheriyathu, on 01/03/2009, -26/+39I think first we should try Cornyn for treason for being an agent of the Japanese car companies that received taxpayer money and opposing a loan for the auto companies. Once he is out of the Senate, there won't be any filibuster. Yay!
- method7670, on 01/03/2009, -12/+25The Republicans insinuating that the Dems did something wrong in an election?!?
Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? - DangerCollie, on 01/03/2009, -2/+14They're just showing themselves to the party of obstruction and ignorance. Keep it up until 2010.
- flossdaily, on 01/03/2009, -1/+13I don't know what newspapers you read, but the ones I read said that had all the florida votes been counted, under ANY standard, Gore won.
- emkaysmith, on 01/03/2009, -3/+15No, I sincerely hope the Republicans keep right on being Republicans. The extremists in charge of the GOP think they lost the election because the party was *insufficiently* conservative. They're determined to forced out the few remaining moderates. Specter is already facing a strong threat from the Right Wing in the 2010 Republican primary -- which means, if he loses in the primary, that the general election will almost certainly go to the Democratic candidate, in a state which is growing ever more Democratic, and where Specter is personally popular.
Keep it up, Republicans. You people are your own worst enemies, and the most useful allies the progressives in this country have. - novenator, on 01/03/2009, -2/+14I agree that every vote needs to be counted, but Coleman's lawyers are cherry picking districts to challenge. Funny how he once claimed if he were behind by a slim margin, he would concede.
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