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- arevolutionof1, on 02/16/2008, -2/+59It was a very reasoned and well delivered argument. Not a lot of rhetoric or posturing. Why couldn't all discussion on the floor of the house be like this?
- Gabberwok, on 02/16/2008, -2/+44Every representative in the House is up for re-election in 2008. Tell your representative that if they allow telecom immunity to stand, they will lose your vote and those of your family and friends.
- Insightful, on 02/16/2008, -1/+35Seriously, telecom immunity is not about gathering intelligence or national security but really "liability protection for the private sector", so says McDonnell, director of National Intelligence on NPR Morning Edition, 2/15/08.
The Republican fearmongers will tell that you government will be powerless as telecoms will not cooperate. This is not correct. Telecoms are required to comply with legal requests - they do not have an option to refuse to cooperate. Morover, just last month Justice Department audit revealed that "telephone companies have cut off FBI wiretaps used to eavesdrop on suspected criminals because of the bureau's repeated failures to pay phone bills on time. " Bush will scare you into that people will die the moment he does not get the power to spy without warrant but telecoms? They get a free pass.
Telecoms are not patriots. They broke the law. They deserve no protection. - Napoleone, on 02/16/2008, -1/+33The so-called "Protect America Act" (another Orwellian title), needs to die. Period.
Understand this: Every Congressman and woman that votes for the "Protect America Act" is in fact voting against the 4th Amendment to the United States Constitution.
That's in direct violation of their oath of office. Read...
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter." - DuraznosTJ, on 02/16/2008, -2/+32Congress, please stop Bush putting the US @ Danger.
DIGG: Please call/email your Congress-person! - idiggmacs, on 02/16/2008, -0/+20Or better yet, vote for someone who'll actually do their job, protect the constitution.
- brese1200, on 02/16/2008, -3/+21The "Protect America Act" in far from it. There was absolutely nothing wrong with FISA as it stood. WE need to stop this nonsense!
- elliotys, on 02/16/2008, -1/+16I don't get it. Do the rest of the politicians just not give a *****. I fell like I'm eating crazy pills!!!!
- idiggmacs, on 02/16/2008, -1/+15Nobody deserves protection from the law when they're breaking they're breaking them.
- cockaroachie, on 02/16/2008, -1/+12The United States is now the most corrupt nation in the history of man thanks to Bush and the Republicans. I feel so ashamed that I was born into this polluting, war-mongering imperialist country.
- someguyouknow, on 02/16/2008, -0/+10I hope you are just joking but after reading your past comments, i don't think you are. Its sad really.
- idiggmacs, on 02/16/2008, -3/+12Because it doesn't make money!
- thomasnikl, on 02/16/2008, -1/+9Use these tools to message Congress that you support the Restore America ACT and DO NOT support the Protect America Act:
http://ga3.org/campaign/fisa
http://action.firedoglake.com/page/petition/Restor ... - tomarocco, on 02/16/2008, -1/+9I'm beginning to think I'd feel safer living in Pakistan.
- EarlOfLade, on 02/16/2008, -1/+9The biggest threat to US security are the criminals in the White House!
- tshawkins, on 02/16/2008, -0/+8Naivety in all its forms is quite touching really
- lvp1138, on 02/16/2008, -0/+7Thanks to Bush and neocons, not Republicans. Bush is not a true Republican.
- Langford, on 02/16/2008, -0/+7Something odd about the whole immunity thing. Constitutionally, we are entitled to sue the government, but somehow the government is granting an outside entity with the ability to evade lawsuits? How can the government give others powers that they themselves don't posses? If they can do that, they can just appoint an outside organization every time they want to do something unconstitutional. Their power is then theoretically limitless.
- inertic, on 02/16/2008, -0/+6Because he actually knows some logic. He used to be a physicist.
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -0/+5 I'm also so ashamed to live in a country that behaves this way...To the rest of the world,I am sorry America has turned into such a vile place and that it could be a threat to any country who opposes it.
- emmeron, on 02/16/2008, -0/+5And the republicans seem to be intent on protecting themselves from being removed from power, at any cost.
- Shadowtheweak, on 02/16/2008, -1/+6call or e-mail your congressman and tell them to kill the protect america act.
You can go through lobbyist groups like: http://www.downsizedc.org/index.shtml
or you can find their contact info on your own. - yodaj007, on 02/16/2008, -0/+4That's why he's talking on the HOUSE floor.
- PeteyNice, on 02/16/2008, -1/+5Rush Holt is awesome. When he is not being an excellent Congressman he is a nuclear physicist so you know he is smart as hell. He is also leading the push for verifiable ballots for elections. When I lived in NJ I was proud that he was my Congressman. The House needs to stay strong and not give in on immunity.
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -1/+5Rush Holt, Chris Dodd, the heros are starting to emerge.
- yodaj007, on 02/16/2008, -0/+3Give power to someone, and either they or their successors will abuse it.
- xXGriffXx, on 02/16/2008, -1/+4Can't agree more Arevolutionf1.
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -0/+3No! They literally copy EVERYTHING that goes over the Internet AND they can tap cells and phones without warrants under this ridiculous "Act".
Read up on Mark Klein about the rooms installed in Internet/Telecom hubs. - travbrack, on 02/16/2008, -1/+4I say more power to speaker Pelosi for calling Bush's rhetoric "Fear mongering"
- nebion, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2You're either not too aware of history or exaggerating quite a bit...
The US under Bush is certainly very far from a modern democracy, but there are more corrupt nations in the world (especially among the ones that have always been dictatorships).
In other words, you're still better than the worst...which isn't saying much. "We're better than North Korea" has always been a very bad excuse. - d03boy, on 02/16/2008, -1/+3Well.. let's not mix 'safer' with 'more respected'
- yodaj007, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2Hey, how did these skittles get into my prescription bottle?
- d03boy, on 02/16/2008, -1/+3Obama!
I went to his rally in Milwaukee today and I heard him talking about how we need to change the government because they're doing things such as "encroaching civil liberties" and when I heard that, I almost started laughing because of his stance on the patriot act. - donbigmano, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2Well I'll call my buddy in South Africa about how ***** up this is, and hopefully there will be an article about me and how I contacted a foreigner about the laws here and the cesspool they originated in. I smell a revolution coming.
- yodaj007, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2You can't copy everything that goes over the Internet. That's ridiculous. They can monitor certain traffic, but the entire Internet at once?
You would have to be a giant brain building an Infosphere to accomplish such a feat.
http://futurama.overt-ops.com/The_Infosphere - inactive, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2You can make the world safer for "American citizens" like yourself by just gassing all the liberals, yes?
I feel for anyone that has to work with your sorry ass. No doubt sane people avoid you like the plague.
Reich-wing fascist. - unclerichard, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2Move to North Korea, coward. There're no terrorists there.
- N3M3515, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2goto the home page of Factbeat and check the utube video its awesome!
- purag66, on 05/13/2009, -0/+1He's my Congressman, and yes, he IS a rocket scientist.
- troye, on 02/18/2008, -0/+1Sir, I would like to know what is your highest level of education?
- inactive, on 02/18/2008, -0/+1Glad you learned, "The lesser of two evils" is still EVIL
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1
The Democrats are growing some balls and nipping creeping Reich-wingnut, American fascism at the bud. - endlessrayne, on 02/16/2008, -1/+2what the hell is with my new jersey legislators suddenly waking up? first both my senators vote for the FISA amendment, now this? I'm so confused. ah well, cheers.
- Rollleft, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1Rush Holt has the air of an orator. He provides space between his phrases allowing himself to catch his breath quietly. This issue is bigger than the average sound byte. Rush's tempo is appropriate to the gravity of the issue.
Contrast this to Condi Rice and Philip Zelikow ( 911 committee chair ) wheezing between between accelerated obfuscations in Congressional testimony. I'm wondering if they also jogged while they wrote their book together. - ordig, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1it's not impossible. they are already doing it.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story ... - shakbhaji, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1A case proceeds through all 3 levels of the federal judicial system to reach the Supreme Court. The case is filed for a federal District Court, then Appeals Court. If the Appeals court doesn't uphold the decision of the District Court, then the case is put into a pool of cases to be considered by the Supreme Court. If the SC agrees to hear the case they grant it a writ of certiorari.
Some cases involving disputes between states or matters of federal importance (like presidential elections, Gore v Bush) may go directly to the Supreme Court.
But if I'm not mistaken the Supreme Court doesn't need to be formally petitioned to challenge the constitutionality of a law passed by congress and approved by the president. The bill is still being debated, so after it's all been voted on and it eventually is signed by Bush, we might still see signs of principle in DC if and when the SC gets involved in overturning this atrocious bill. Given this court's track record, I wouldn't count on it though. In the mean time, contact your congressman and urge them to vote against this bill. - inactive, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1" I suspect that is bull."
Boy, this is going to be easy.... You can only suspect because there will be no-one watching them and they will not have accountable to anyone.
Just like what goes on in seriously authoritarian countries. - inactive, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1Hilarious, off the page bell-curvers guys like you are Fox News/Rupert Murdock's bread and butter.
No doubt you and your Reich-wing ilk pushing for creeping American fascism would like to open a few gas chambers and internment camps for guys like Holt, yes? - inactive, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1"Foreign on foreign communication"? You mean they only spy foreigners living in the US?
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