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- Richdiet, on 11/30/2007, -4/+88Replace "the internet" with "free speech" in the section this article quotes from the bill:
"Free speech has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens"
Conclusion? A tool != the purpose it's being used for by some sick puppy. - Ziggygallaway, on 11/30/2007, -2/+65Watch your comments comrades, big brother is watching...
- nicholai, on 11/30/2007, -6/+64"Land of the free", what a ***** joke.
- sweetrelease, on 11/30/2007, -2/+41go after the phone too, the phone is useable for exchanging terrorist information.
OUTLAW PHONES - inactive, on 11/30/2007, -5/+40THE CORRUPT FEDERAL GOVT. VS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
Thats what it has come down to - zombies187, on 11/30/2007, -3/+37Any chance they won't conclude that the internet aides terrorism? No? Dang.
- Napoleone, on 11/30/2007, -2/+35The People to examine "the government" as a tool for homegrown facism.
- GRTWHT, on 11/30/2007, -2/+33Interesting how easy it is to see how this could be how the Chinese got started with their 'management' of the internet....
- rupertmorris, on 11/30/2007, -2/+27And this, in a time when Congress is f#$%ing useless, and the Bush administration is under scrutiny for crimes against the people. Hmmm... Sounds like an attempt to stifle dissent.
- zomgz, on 11/30/2007, -0/+23i think their confusing the term "homegrown terrorism" for "citizens fed up with their *****".
can anyone blame the people for talk of revolution? - positron, on 11/30/2007, -2/+25Precisely. I was thinking of U.S. Postal Service, telephones, etc. but free speech covers all replacement terms and proves the point more succinctly.
- schroeder, on 11/30/2007, -1/+24Anything can be a tool for terrorism.
- bratpack8, on 11/30/2007, -2/+239-11, ban the internet!
- PhilLesh69, on 11/30/2007, -0/+17I'm not sure they are confusing the two. I think the goal is to eventually merge the two into the same concept.
Dissent is now, no longer vital for a free and open democratic society. In fact, a free and open society is to be attacked from every angle. - mokayogi, on 11/30/2007, -1/+16Copycats. China's already done it.
- MasterThief117, on 11/30/2007, -0/+15But then again, we can fight back. We can digg the US governments servers to death.
- principle, on 11/30/2007, -0/+14Soon the government will establish a department of “Thought Police” to censor undesirable thoughts on internet because "Thoughtcrime is the only crime that matters."
- latrosicarius, on 11/30/2007, -0/+13And also ban radios, post mail, writing, congregating in groups of 3 or more, etc
- demonsnake69, on 11/30/2007, -0/+13Someone needs to examine Congress as a tool for homegrown stupidity.
- islingt0ner, on 11/30/2007, -0/+13someone will have to explain it to them first.
- inactive, on 11/30/2007, -0/+12Saying that the internet helps create terrorists is like saying that watching an explosion in a Hollywood movie helps create pyromaniacs.
- bdub92, on 11/30/2007, -0/+11Sir, there has been a serious breech on the tubes.
- PhilLesh69, on 11/30/2007, -0/+11sounds like? It very damn well IS.
Welcome to the new america. Security trumps freedom. Thomas Jefferson should be rolling in his grave. - EntropyFan, on 11/30/2007, -0/+10In Soviet Russia, .... hold on, someone is knocking at the door.
- PhilLesh69, on 11/30/2007, -0/+10I've always believed that if we just put every citizen under house arrest, and require that they request permission to travel to work, or to buy food, etc, then we'd all be so much safer. If nobody could roam the streets without prior police approval, there'd be no crime or terrorism.
I'm sure that day will come, unfortunately. Hopefully I'll be long gone before it does. - mrfreeziexp, on 11/30/2007, -1/+11"tool for homegrown terrorism"
That's Congress talk for "let's spy on it." - Napoleone, on 11/30/2007, -1/+10A better idea would be to leave it alone. Freedom of Speech means sometimes being exposed to silly, bad and even dangerous ideas. It's far more prudent to have those ideas out in the open where they can be challenged by others than to have them brewing in secret.
- MasterThief117, on 11/30/2007, -0/+9Examining the Internet will only get them pictures of cats with silly captions, sick pornography, a bunch of retarded overused memes, and a few other things.
- inactive, on 11/30/2007, -1/+10i'm doomed.
- inactive, on 11/30/2007, -1/+10Id like to thank Ron Paul and the other supporters of the constitution . Ron Paul would veto this bill
- superdoofus, on 11/30/2007, -0/+9like a coup or revolution?
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4 [virtual] missiles ready to be launched at http://whitehouse.gov IF MY DEMANDS OF GETTING BUSH & CHENEY OUT OF OFFICE ARE NOT MET!!!! I'm dead serious, these missiles are massive, just look at them!! Over 150px long ffs! - dreamparacite, on 11/30/2007, -0/+8I'm starting to hate our government more every day. We are PARANOID and reducing our rights one by one.
- darkciti2, on 11/30/2007, -0/+8In light of the Bush Marshall Law, I appoint myself as the presiding judge over the United States of America.
As writ, it is hereby declared that local police municipalities fall under local jurisdiction as defined herein and be it spoketh both by the people (herein defined as "We") and common rule of law defined as "The Constitution of The United States of America".
It will be herein writ forever, that after careful consideration, I have determined that "The American People" have suffered both civil damages and punitive damages by one GEORGE WALKER BUSH, Et. Al for crimes in direct violation of the following as written:
GUILTY of violation of the CONSTITUTION THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
GUILTY of DESTRUCTION OF THE FIRST AMMENDMENT of the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
GUILTY of UNLAWFUL DETENTION with criminal intent
GUILTY of WAR CRIMES as agreed upon by all international parties to the GENEVA CONVENTION
GUILTY of DESTRUCTION OF GOVERNMENT PROPERTY as defined by REQUIRED RETENTION OF ALL PRESIDENTIAL COMMUNICATIONS, be they by Electronic Mail (email), Postal Mail, or other communications as defined by the Presidential Records Act as defined by Congress and the Lawmakers of the Federal Government.
I hereby order that GEORGE WALKER BUSH be ordained to appear before the Court ON OR BEFORE December 10th in the year 2007. If said DEFENDANT does not appear, it is hereby ordered by the Court of the American People that he be detained by the nearest municipality - irreverent to the penalty of local jurisdiction issues as they may arise.
In the event that the Presiding President does not appear for trial, local jurisdictions shall become irrelevant and the Supreme Court shall take control of the Military as controlled by the "Commander in Chief" [President] in order to take said Defendant into custody above and beyond LOCAL SECRET SERVICE PERSONNEL. Anyone found in contempt of this law, and found guilty of protecting this Defendant (as writ hereing), shall be construed as a willing accomplice and shall answer to the court as such.
It is writ, as within this order that you, GEORGE WALKER BUSH, are hereby ordered to appear on the date aforementioned.
Just like your father, you will pay for your treachery GEORGE WALKER BUSH. Dress accordingly. - PhilLesh69, on 11/30/2007, -1/+9But as long as we don't look behind the curtain and continue to believe that, we'll all be okay. Perception is reality in this new world.
- torched, on 11/30/2007, -3/+10Didn't you guys watch that south park episode with the Russian terrorists? We can catch terrorists much easier when we find their myspace profile and winamp playlists. Then if we don't want to deal with those pesky search warrants we can just turn to google!
- PhilLesh69, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7I think nicholai was saying, somewhat sarcastically, "and after proposing legislation like this, they still call this the land of the free?"
I think that was his point. - sappysyrup, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7Maybe we should ban mail too
- Bhatch514, on 11/30/2007, -1/+8All your freedom, belong to us!
- PhilLesh69, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6neither. I prefer honest, truthful discourse.
- galeninjapan, on 11/30/2007, -4/+10I want to kill Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA). Take that ***** in the FBI/CIA!! Define me as a homegrown terrorist because I don't like the status quo.
- Ardoon, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6o lawl they are gonna have a aneurysm when they hit the chans area of the web.
- PhilLesh69, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6That is what it has been for several decades. It is just that it is becoming harder and harder to ignore or deny anymore.
- Okari, on 11/30/2007, -2/+8I admit it, I helped spread the AIDS on the internet.
- jlhoben, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6What about the violent radicalization of the American government and the War on Democracy? This is *****. Without the Internet America would be a totalitarian regime already. Read Naomi Wolf's new book The End of America. Don't let them chill speech, with cointellpro, shills and a bought media - exercise your rights or be damned.
http://www.amazon.com/End-America-Letter-Warning-P ... - MrFunions, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6Dugg because everyone should read this bill. It introduces this ridiculous notion of "thought crimes"
- PhilLesh69, on 11/30/2007, -1/+7Ditto what tenebrousX says. Violence is not a great solution.
Plus, just like making threats against the president, I'm sure pretty soon a statement like that will be a very big mistake. Heck, I think it probably is a big mistake even now. I wouldn't be surprised if you now have a little folder on some FBI analyst or Secret Service agent's desk. - thespudmall, on 11/30/2007, -5/+11I don't think the Internet has the same effect on terrorism as it did on porn.
- superdoofus, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6i'm not a history student by any means, but i do recall learning of england's attempts to track down american publishers of pamphlets critical of the government which sought to overthrow or inspire revolutionary mindsets. a few screwballs were likely guilty of lese majesty but, when it became popular thought, any producers of critical material made it to their "watchlist" and their readers were surveilled and subjected to warrantless search and seizure and/or indefinite incarceration without specific legal charges.
- Berkana, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6True. They may as well do the same for cars, fertilizer, cell phones, and guns. But of course, that would piss off the right-wing gun lobby; they seem to be content with any number of their constitutional rights being taken away as long as the government leaves the second amendment alone. If only they were zealous enough to stand up for all the other constitutional rights.
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