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- MadN, on 10/12/2007, -17/+209Sample questions:
1) Are you a Republican or a terrorist?
2) Do you accept George W Bush into your life as your personal savior? - Gtitian, on 10/12/2007, -15/+169Chemical re-education anyone?
It's freaking crazy... every single thing associated with this guys reeks of dictatorship. Am I just being paranoid? - hipnerd, on 10/12/2007, -11/+129This site is sponsored by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, a Scientologist front group that has zero credibility. Psychology is Scientology's number one bogeyman.
Bury this story. It's nutjob propaganda. - Smoove, on 10/12/2007, -14/+125It's certainly a good argument for home-schooling. The day they try to push unnecessary drugs on my son is the day I leave the country.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+66Brave New World. :)
- sinmostaza, on 10/12/2007, -2/+55The 3rd link on this website's link page:
www.cchr.org
The Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) was co-founded in 1969 by the Church of Scientology and Dr. Thomas Szasz, Professor of Psychiatry Emeritus at the State University of New York Upstate Medical University in Syracuse, to investigate and expose psychiatric violations of human rights. Today, it has more than 135 chapters in 34 countries.
Maybe TeenScreen has problems, but advocating against ANY psychiatric treatment (like Scientology, and many of their other linked-pages) is even more wrong. - JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+49I'm ***** nuts. So what? I know it, My friends know it (and they like me because of it), my family knows it.
Funny story about Psycho diseases...
When I was in the third grade, we were learning how to round numbers. I already knew how to do this, so I whipped out a book and started reading. The teacher got pissed, took the book, told me to pay attention. Later that day, I heard my mom shouting into the phone.
The principal of the school had called home and told my mother that I had attention deficit _hyperactive_ disorder and required Ritalin. For reading a book silently and calmly in the back of a classroom.
I'm not currently nor have I ever been on mind-altering drugs of any type (weed, ritalin, etc.) and I seem to be one of the most proficient people in my graduating class.
-jX
PS. From what I've heard, Ritalin ***** with your brain more than weed... so why isn't weed legal and Ritalin illegal? - stonebear, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34Smells like Scientology.
- Chairboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33I think everyone may be missing the other possibility:
Namely, what if there's something terribly, terribly wrong with Colorado? - rm999, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32"Out of the last thirteen school shooters, nine of them were taking these drugs. And those are just the ones we know about -- the others were most likely on these drugs as well. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) just last year said that psychiatric drugs can actually cause kids including teens to kill themselves.
It's possible that if the parents refuse to give the drug to their kid, the TeenScreen people will try to have him taken away from his home by the child welfare agencies to force him to take drugs."
This is like the definition of FUD. Read the facts to educate yourself, but don't entirely depend on a single (obviously biased) source to make you opinion.
OMG hipnerd is right, they link to scientiology sites
http://www.teenscreenfacts.com/links.htm - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -20/+46leaving the country isn't the answer.
but yeah the 'legal' drug companies are pushing for this. - nahteecirp, on 10/12/2007, -14/+39This gives new meaning to the song "We Are All On Drugs" by Weezer.
- blablaman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Can we make Bush himself take this test?
- gdragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23This test was easy. My friend told me all the correct answers as I took it. I didn't get in trouble for cheating because my friend is invisible.
- vikingofmars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21the phrase: "a front group for psychiatrists" just sounded very Scientologist to me. and the "Hooking Kids on Psych Drugs" section of the website i think solidifies that link.
- sdbear, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Just a question? Is there any connection between the page carrying this story and Scientology? Just asking . . ..
- kingfoot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22I wanna just take it online real quick to see if I would pass or not lol. Just for kicks
- heavensblade23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Scientology front group. Buried.
- brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16This web page is suspicious and its allegations seem vague. "About Us" doesnt really reveal who is behind the site but it doesnt *feel* like a grassroots org.
"When it was done in Colorado , 71% of the kids who took the test were told they had a mental disorder"
User what circumstances? Were the participants in that study pre-screened?
"Out of the last thirteen school shooters, nine of them were taking these drugs".
Which drugs? How come the drugs are not noted? The statement infers that the drugs were the cause of the school shootings, but isnt it just as plausibale that school shooters would have a history of mental illness which required treatment?
"And those are just the ones we know about -- the others were most likely on these drugs as well."
Most likely? Says who?
This website looks fishy as hell but its sad how fast some digg users will eat the right flavor of dog food. - PigThief, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16AHH!!! Site... colors... so bright...
My vision is tinted red now, no joke. - Hackintosh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1410 bucks says this site was made by those Scientology bastards.
it seems to have a strong anti-psychiatry slant. - ragnorok999, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16The webpage hurts my eyes...
- vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Ditto, it took a good 10 minutes for my eyes to re-adjust. Maybe I need to be medicated to fix the problem...
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14All it took was 30 seconds at that psychedelic website to convince me I was nutso..
- atb12688, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Propoganda group for scientology. Bury it please.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Woohoo!!
Wait.. you said psychedelic drugs right? - estvir, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Would you like some Soma Highborn ? ;)
Do you think Digg users would in the Alpha or Epsilon caste ? - diggn_it, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15"Yes they can. They can force you to take the drugs by locking you in the looney bin if you decide not to take the drugs."
NO they cant, not unless a court determines that you are a danger to yourself and society. This is unlikely to happen since such a proceeding requires extensive evidence, not just one group who supports it. However, they could theoretically kick you out of school I guess - nmeadata, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20An 84 - 94% Chance Your Child Will Incorrectly Be Determined to Have a Mental Illness
Stolen from http://www.teenscreentruth.com/
I'll be on the lookout for this one! - finnishgeek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12God what a bunch of Scientologist ***** propaganda. Marked as spam.
- MalaysianMafia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11sounds like a Scientology front... they seem pretty anti-psychology....
- EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I'm big proponent of helping people get help for mental illness. But as far as I can tell, antidepressants in widespread use today were never responsibly tested for use in children. We are currently conducting the largest uncontrolled human medical experiment in history, and who knows what we'll find in ten years time. We have no hard proof that these drugs don't affect the on-going psychological development in children. We have no hard proof that they even do what they're supposed to in children.
And the fact is, proper psychological screening takes hours, if not days worth of discussions to distinguish a person's underlying symptoms from the superficial ones. Any psychiatrist who claims a diagnosis in one session (or 10 minutes) is a fraud, IMO. - Derrekito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11***** Scientology.
- fredgarvin1138, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I wouldn't say you're crazy, but Iwould say you are extremely naive to believe something this unsupported by facts, obviously biased and generally silly just because somebody mentioned Bush's name.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1871% of people were reported to have some sort of psychiatric problem? Yeah, I believe it. At least 3/4 of people have some sort of problem in the head or are just retarded/idiots.
But seriously, forcing drugs onto children with no real research on the drug's effects is just wrong. - lokai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12This is absolutely horrible.
This program will do to untold numbers of young adults what the mental health practitioners of my state did to me: It will ***** them up.
I was a troubled teen. My father was an alcoholic, drug-addicted sex fiend. My mother was torn and losing her wits, trying to raise her two kids while trying to keep from stepping on her husband's toes. Dad had fibrous toes that weaved a fine silky web over our whole home. If you breathed you would trigger a hair on that death trap.
I did what troubled teens do. Only, somehow, I decided to seek counseling for what was going on in my own home. Somehow this lead to me getting put into an inpatient hospital, diagnosed with cyclothymia.
That diagnosis turned into, over some weeks, bipolar type II. After a few more weeks, that morphed into possible schizoaffective type disorder.
I lived, in and out of mental inpatient and outpatient facilities from the age of seventeen until I was twenty. I was put on a cocktail of psychoactive drugs which never belonged in my system. I was sent to a long-term facility and sentenced for a life stay. Somehow, thank GOD, I was discharged from that place after three months.
Arthur Brisbane Child Treatment Center in NJ USA was hell. I am glad they've shut it down.
I quit all of my meds on my own. I have a 3.3GPA in college after a bad semester. I will be graduating next Winter, probably with honors. I have a two-year relationship with a wonderful girlfriend, and a job I love just as much and have had for just as long.
Now if I were nuts I would not have been able to do any of that. According to these professionals I was insane, had to be on meds the rest of my life, locked up under close watch.
After kicking my meds for almost a full year, my parents paid to have me re-examined. What did the independent practitioner find? I just had a horrible childhood, and my family is now working things out. I was NEVER nuts.
I was just human.
This ***** has to stop. - ricree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@JoshuaLaskin
Is that from a reputable source, or from this link? If it's from the page, I would be extremely skeptical, since it has ties to Scientology, which is far from an unbiased source. - everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11i was just thinking that.
- EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Followup: Reading through to a more authoritative site (still a critical one), it looks like the 10 minute screen leads only to a followup with a trained human evaluator who asks much better questions.
So I'm going to have to mark this post as inaccurate, because the screening doesn't automatically lead to medication. To criticize this, you'd need to show that the followup screening doesn't work, not the initial 10 minute test. - TheSevenDuffs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10thats exactly the first thing i thought of too. i doubt a 10 minute test would allow a child to be given prescription drugs
- JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8no... not really.
- interrogate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8scientology site getting 300+ diggs?
how can you trust what they say? anyone have any other sites that back up this 70% claim? - myheaditches, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I've taken a test with the same goal, not sure if it is the same test. You would rate the statements as strongly agree, agree, disagree, or strongly disagree. Some of the statements were along the lines of:
I hear voices others don't.
I think about harming myself.
I often times think about sex.
I don't get along with people.
I want to harm others.
You know, questions you can easily fake the answers for if you so desire! - Wizardo55, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Buried for Scientology.
- john2kx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's time to let kids figure ***** out in their lives by themselves, for once.
- JoshuaLaskin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7They can't force parents to make their children take it, but if the parents refuse, then the child can be taken by child welfare agencies.
"It's possible that if the parents refuse to give the drug to their kid, the TeenScreen people will try to have him taken away from his home by the child welfare agencies to force him to take drugs." - Holosoth, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I swear to god. Weed is not a mental disorder.
- iomegaboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If I wrote a paper like this in high school I would get an F. Many conclusions drawn and "facts" stated without a shred of evidence or reference.
No debate for you. Not yours. - devinpleuler, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9soma... coming to a school near you
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