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Coming Soon: The Mother Of All 9/11 Truth Hit Pieces
prisonplanet.com — An upcoming documentary entitled The 9/11 Conspiracies, to be aired on the History Channel, may represent the biggest hit piece to date on the 9/11 truth movement and is rife with bias, cronyism and conflicts of interest.
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- bluejay1993, on 10/10/2007, -8/+40This will of course backfire on them and will expose Hearst and the History Channel for the real traitors that they are.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -11/+6Maybe people will learn the science of what happened, and be far less receptive to Alex Jones' tragedy-pimp act?
I think my scenario is far more likely. I don't see a call to lynch the owners of the History Channel.- ringelman5, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Get a grip on reality before you slide totally int o hell.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6Says the man dripping with demon funk...
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6Actually, tonight... I dine... in HELL!
(Fridays are Illuminati movie night.)
- Rabbit63, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10
If that was the case you moron, then I would expect them to cover the actual science such as how two steel framed skyscrapers could fall to earth faster than if the intact 70 stories gave less resistance than water.
I would expect them to cover the fact that WTC-7, which was said to be absolutely, definately a controlled demolition by one of the world's top CD experts, Danny Jowenko; fell to earth at exactly the speed of gravity, meaning the entire building gave ZERO restance to the fall.
I'd also think they would then cover the scientific lab reports, from an acreditted Testing Lab, Materials Engineering inc, which prove that Thermate was used in the 911 building demolitions. Science, rather than mere irrelevant and peripheral issues, science rather than ***** pseudo-science from a bunch of shills.
Doesn't it occur to you that this piece just explained precisely why this program will be untrustworthy? Doesn't vested interests mean anything to you?
- ringelman5, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Get a grip on reality before you slide totally int o hell.
- imperium2000, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13So...Popsci-traitors, BBC-traitors(well they're British so technically it isn't possible), History Channel-traitors, NIST-Traitors, NYFD-Traitors, Engineers-Traitors, University Professors-Traitors...hmmm who else is left...?
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -13/+8Alex Jones. He's the real traitor.
- ringelman5, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7To see the traitor look in the mirror.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -6/+7Here's the pattern: If they disagree with the "truth" movement... Then they MUST have been in on it. Classic Conspiracy Theory Insanity. Paranoid Schizophrenia is a real problem in the world.
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -13/+8Alex Jones. He's the real traitor.
- Rabbit63, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4""hmmm who else is left...?""
YOU!
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -11/+6Maybe people will learn the science of what happened, and be far less receptive to Alex Jones' tragedy-pimp act?
- jugger74, on 10/10/2007, -7/+35Hey it is to the point now that every attempted propaganda hit piece just strengthens our ranks. The truth can only be twisted so much and when people open their eyes and do the least amount of research it quickly becomes clear to those willing to think for themselves that the inaccuracies and unexplained events weigh much heavier on the so called debunkers explanations of the events. I say bring it on this will not be so much a hit piece as just another opportunity to wake people up in record numbers like has been happening over the past couple years. So ring the bell and let the fight begin.
- mango42, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Definitely - remember that ex-MI5 David Shayler has already done an excellent refutation of the BBC whitewash
http://digg.com/politics/New_9_11_Truth_Film_Exposes_BBC_Hit_Piece
So long as the 9/11 pro-reality people on this show get to drum their web links into a largely braindead audiences heads!
- mango42, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Definitely - remember that ex-MI5 David Shayler has already done an excellent refutation of the BBC whitewash
- skibybadoowap, on 10/10/2007, -7/+30They are bringing Jason Bermas and Korey Rowe from loose change on the show too? This should be interesting.
- Rabbit63, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I fear not. Unfortunately both are young and do not handle interviews well in my opinion. They will also be edited and presented in the worst light. They can make a difference with subtle makeup changes even and I would expect no bottom to the lows they would stoop to.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -6/+36Two movies people must see:
The Matrix
V for Vendetta
Propaganda will only work on a person if they choose to remain brainwashed. Ignorance is a choice.- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9They're both great movies. What does that have to do with 9/11?
- Mik1984, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Nothing. Do they have to?
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7Look4Truth is insinuating that real life is like those movies; that there's "mysterious forces" that are keeping us all down.
Arguing something is true because it was like a cool movie is idiotic. I was interested to hear his rationalization.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7Look4Truth is insinuating that real life is like those movies; that there's "mysterious forces" that are keeping us all down.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Blue, if you can't see what our government is doing and we're all crazy, why come here and post? Why waste time on us nuts? Who's more crazy, the person who posts crazy things or the person who responds to the person lol?
If you want to go on believing everything our government tells us then that's your choice. It really doesn't matter that you bashers keep on trolling these posts to slam people because millions of people are waking up to what's really going on. Stick your head in the sand if you want, it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things.
People come here to warn others but call us crazy if it makes you feel better. These posts aren't meant to try and reach people like you and Herk, they're for people who can open their hearts and minds and see the truth in matters. That's all, so why not go find the sports threads or whatever turns your crank. ;)- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5I don't frequent Alex Jones sites. I'm not "in" to that kind of thing.
Submitting something to Digg is offering it up to the masses. If someone is going to put it out there, I'm going to express my opinion. I don't begrudge truthers for their opinion-my issue is that they can't back up their outlandish claims.
I'm not a huge supporter of the current administration at all. I don't trust them an inch. That doesn't mean that the "conspiracy" is true. My disbelief is due to the evidence I've seen.
I don't think you're crazy; I think you're wrong. - Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Do you believe any of these are true?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flags#Examples_of_false_flag_attacks_as_pretexts_for_war- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5I'm not familiar with enough of any of those to say for sure. I am perfectly willing to admit governments engage in all sorts of underhanded behavior.
What do "false flag" operations have to do with 9/11? I've seen a lot of conjecture that 9/11 was, but I've never seen any concrete proof. Serial killers have murdered people. That doesn't mean that every murdered person died at the hands of a serial killer. - JulioJuliopolis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2@blue, so you need "concrete proof", (which to you apparently means more than just things not acting outside the bounds of the laws of physics), to suggest that 9-11 was a false flag, yet the absolutely unbelievable story the govt. and media sell you you'll believe. Do you have "concrete proof" of that story? If no explanations meet your personal definition of "concrete proof", whatever that is, than which explanation is most supported by the facts? No go on and insincerely answer the official version.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5I'm not familiar with enough of any of those to say for sure. I am perfectly willing to admit governments engage in all sorts of underhanded behavior.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5I don't frequent Alex Jones sites. I'm not "in" to that kind of thing.
- Mik1984, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Nothing. Do they have to?
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -11/+8And there's no question that you have chosen ignorance.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Herk, you are the most vile, pathetic person I've ever talked to. Your incessant name calling and hate is so nasty that I wonder if you even have a soul. If you do, it is dark and filled with vileness. You've already stated that you don't care about people and I believe it. You don't care about anyone but yourself but make no mistake about it, you'll get what you deserve in the end, you and your evil soul you harvest with you.
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -9/+5You choose to wallow in ignorance by continuing to believe the truther garbage when the truth is easily available to you. You can prattle on about souls if that makes you more comfortable but I seriously wonder about your intellect.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Your comments are always so similar that you might consider just using a cut and paste method, it will save you time on all your hate mongering. Just a thought.
- virtualdc, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5And what have you chosen almighty, clairvoyant, all knowing, supreme being? You provide zero substance and plenty of bull.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5It seems you bashers are all the same. Unable to see the oncoming freight train in front of you because you're wasting time slandering the guy on the street corner because he's telling you to move.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5I've looked objectively at all of the "evidence", with an open mind. I've come to the conclusion that there was no "conspiracy".
What does that make me? The guy who realizes there is no train? - Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Heh, I guess I better add "the blind guy" to the list. Perhaps some new glasses are in order? I suppose I better add "the ostrich" as well, he should be along shortly.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Btw, I used to be the ostrich so I know that category exists. ;)
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I love these words. You are the kind of person we need more of.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -8/+5All fun and flames aside, I really have looked at all of the evidence.
Any "evidence" Alex Jones presents is very subject to interpretation.
The Towers didn't fall at "free fall" speed. The debris clearly fall faster than the buildings. WTC 7 was extensively damaged, and straddling a power station. It collapsed due to fire and missing a corner.
There's plane debris scattered in front of the Pentagon. I've seen the aftermath of a jet hitting a wall before. It looked the same. A plane flying at that speed would have only been caught on a few frames due to the slow shutter of a security camera.
If the government was going to attempt a "false flag" attack, why not just detonate the explosives already in the Towers? It could have been blamed as terrorism just as easily.
I know the talking points. I look at each one carefully. I'm convinced that the NIST report is correct.
What evidence could be provided that would make you renounce the idea that it was an "inside job"? I would admit I was wrong if I could be given concrete, independent evidence.
Examples:
Recorded phone calls, Watergate-style tapes, a paper trail indicating the purchase/installation of explosives, photographs of placed charges, or amateur video taken of installation/installed charges.
If you can provide any of the following, I will cease to become what you call an "ostrich". What can I provide you with to convince you of my side? - Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Convince me to join you? Heh, I used to believe it was all crap myself so why would I want to go back? Look, I used to be a "Herk", call people crazy and things like that. The problem was I never took the time to actually look at the information. All it took was video of building 7 to open my eyes. Anyone in their right mind can tell that was a demolition. If you can't see it, there's NOTHING I can say to you that will convince you of anything. Sorry, no can do my friend. Why do you think it takes weeks and months of planning by special companies to do these demolitions if it's so easy to bring them down in their own footprints by fire? Why not just toss a match in a waste basket and call it a day?
Demolitions expert:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/kaboom/loizeaux.html
Building 7 comparison:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6_czyNCNhDI
If you can't see, at the very VERY least, that building 7 was imploded, then there's no sense in arguing anything else.- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5"If you can't see it, there's NOTHING I can say to you that will convince you of anything"
Not true. If you can give me evidence of the variety listed in my other post, I will do everything possible to get the information out. I will become your most ardent supporter, and ask for your forgiveness. I willing to admit I'm wrong in the face of incontrovertible evidence.
I watched your video. "Looks like" isn't compelling. It looks like there's water on the road sometimes. It doesn't make it so. I've seen the other angles of the collapse, and this one is by far the most "flattering" to the theory, as it omits the extensive damage and fires on the other side.
Regardless, what evidence can I present you that will change your mind? - Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8You CAN'T change my mind, I can see now! =)
I'd love to go on arguing with you but I know it's useless. The truth will reach those that can and are willing to see, everything else is just chatter. I used to do this number with people when I believed as you do and they tried and tried to convince me but unless a person is willing to see the truth they won't no matter what is said. It's simply a waste of time my friend and I'm not going to go there. Believe what you want to believe and so will I, fair enough? =)
Enough people are waking up out there and I'd rather help them find the the truth rather than waste time arguing over something that's not going to change. I know, been there done that. Time is short and is best spent on those that will/can listen.
Take care my friend, and thanks for being polite. This world is getting dark and it gets frustrating dealing with all the "Herks" out there who care about nothing but themselves. God help us all... - theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -7/+4You're going to want to read more of the thread before you accuse me of being polite.
I'm perfectly willing to argue the "merits" of the conspiracy, but the spamming and pontificating get old really fast. If his supporters weren't so zealous to be "info-warriors", I wouldn't be so virulent in response.
Regardless, you should really re-think the whole "truth movement" thing. It's intellectually unbecoming. Open your mind to the possibility Jones is wrong. - Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Thanks but I'm ok. I'm very comfortable with the company I'm in.
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5"If you can't see it, there's NOTHING I can say to you that will convince you of anything"
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5I've looked objectively at all of the "evidence", with an open mind. I've come to the conclusion that there was no "conspiracy".
- Gratefuldead, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Hey herk - do you think the military industrial complex has an influence on our policy, foreign or domestic. To what degree?
What do you support. militarily, right now, in our "situation" in the middle east? Do you support President bush?
sorry if it seems like i'm prying, just trying to get some insight.....
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Herk, you are the most vile, pathetic person I've ever talked to. Your incessant name calling and hate is so nasty that I wonder if you even have a soul. If you do, it is dark and filled with vileness. You've already stated that you don't care about people and I believe it. You don't care about anyone but yourself but make no mistake about it, you'll get what you deserve in the end, you and your evil soul you harvest with you.
- earwigjoe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Lesson i page one Paragraph one Line one
Herkimer56 is an intell plant........ genuine bloggers(truther or not) beware
just dont respond to him or he has suceeded....- MrEguy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Of course he is. Many of us realize that. Why do you think he comes back, time and again, behaving as if he's never heard any of the proof he's been given months and months ago?
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4Further proof you truthers are 14 year olds in mommy's basement.
- OrganicDrew, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4As a respected member of the scientific community most notably with my work on Ortho- and Para- Hydrogen production through anodized electrolysis of water I resent that remark. It is insults like this that are causal to the current state of affairs with society rejecting knowledge and all whom wish to attain it.
Before you blindly point fingers calling out people with broad generalizations which are always wrong, do the research, investigate their claims however absurd they may seem.
Here is a fairly comprehensive respectable resource where you can investigate our claims, www.ae911truth.org
Now have you we don't all believe the same thing, but nearly everybody who has done any kind of investigation into the happenings on that fateful day has seen heard or felt something inconstant with the official report upon which we choose to base our arguments.
Here is an example of something TRUE "however completely unrelated" that seems Totally absurd that most people would reject instantly and call anyone saying it a "tinfoil hat wearing 14 year old kid"
This will outline the importance of investigating a claim before you judge people
PIG that is part SPINACH
SOURCE: ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1780541.stm )- Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+31) Your scientific field is creating hydrogen and oxygen by passing a current through water? I would have thought that area of physical chemistry was fully researched by now. Mine is bioinformatics, btw.
2) Could you kindly link me to a timeline of what the Troofer movement believes happened on 9/11? Not what they DON'T think happened, like the timeline presented in the site you link, but a timeline of what Troofers think really happened? Because it seems to me Trooferism doesn't exist as a coherent creed; as far as I can tell troofers cant agree on a single thing except that the government version is wrong. But I'd love for you to prove me wrong.
3) No, unlike with Troof, no-one considers transgene organisms to be the ramblings of tinfoil-hat wearing 14-year-old kids. Because there is independent, supporting, evidence for transgene organisms. By contrast there is no independent supporting evidence for Trooferism (somewhat dependent on what one puts in to that nebulous concept), but quite a lot of disconfirming evidence.
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+31) Your scientific field is creating hydrogen and oxygen by passing a current through water? I would have thought that area of physical chemistry was fully researched by now. Mine is bioinformatics, btw.
- OrganicDrew, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4As a respected member of the scientific community most notably with my work on Ortho- and Para- Hydrogen production through anodized electrolysis of water I resent that remark. It is insults like this that are causal to the current state of affairs with society rejecting knowledge and all whom wish to attain it.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9They're both great movies. What does that have to do with 9/11?
- digTruthiness, on 10/10/2007, -7/+33Please listen to Alex Jones and spread the info. Copy & Paste:
http://www.nw0.info/files/Radio/Alex%20Jones%20Radio%20Archive/2007/August/aj_2007-08-02.mp3- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Ever wonder what it's like to be in a cult? Well, look at your own life.
- biggD, on 10/10/2007, -8/+38The old cronies high atop History channel, Hearst publishing, Disney, GE, et al don't get it. They'll be digging their own graves with this one.
The BBC's recent credibility meltdown is a good example of what's at stake:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/19/nbbc119.xml
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article2067252.ece
The "established mainstream media" credibility crisis in the wake of this hit piece will make the BBC's look like a picnic.
People smell blood in the water and are looking carefully for any sign of media deception.
Credibility is the lifeblood of the mainstream media. They are already anemic from previous exposed deceptions. This will open the floodgates. - cybe, on 10/10/2007, -6/+27A popular 9/11 video series published on YouTube outlining the many 9/11 "coincidences" featuring snack-size clips from various 9/11 documentaries:-
http://digg.com/videos/educational/9_11_Coincidences_Parts_1_16 - alice104, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19The burden of defending the absurdity of the official fairy tale is that you can't give even a shred of credibility to any of the claims made in favor of an alternative theory. Not one.
They will allow Prof. Jones, the Loose Change guys and others to speak, but will ALWAYS give the last word to a debunker... so that no one watching the show will be left with the impression that unanswered questions remain.
We have to make this information viral so more and more people are aware that the sources cannot be trusted.- backflipper, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8Why would they leave the show with an unanswered question? Obviously they allow the "debunker" to have the last word so that no questions the "truthers" ask goes unanswered.
Here's the deal, all the truthers questions can be answered, and have been answered.- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Okay...here's one:
Which other steel-frame buildings in history have collapsed to the ground in mere seconds due to fire?
In all my research, I haven't had that one answered for good or bad, truth or otherwise.- backflipper, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5How many steel structured buildings were struck by airplanes? Fire alone did not bring down the twin towers.
As for WTC7, it was hit by a 100 story building, which caused severe damage. On top of that, there were unfought fires burning all day on multiple floors. How many steel structured buildings , with severe structural damage have fires burn all day wiithout attempts to put them out?
- backflipper, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5How many steel structured buildings were struck by airplanes? Fire alone did not bring down the twin towers.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0AND, days later, my question is still unanswered. GO FIGURE!
Wake up, people.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Okay...here's one:
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -10/+7Steven Jones is a liar. Dylan Avery admits that Loose Change isn't accurate. Why are you people still listening to people that are obviously lying to you?
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5Let's assume they gave the truthers the last word.
What would they say? Truthers make wild claims, tell spooky stories, and make insinuations. The dubunkers use science and facts. The only recourse a truther has is to allege the information is "tainted" by the same conspirators.
Truthers will keep denying evidence and demanding the last word until they hear what they want. The show would never end if they had the last word. - theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6Let's assume they gave the truthers the last word.
What would they say? Truthers make wild claims, tell spooky stories, and make insinuations. The dubunkers use science and facts. The only recourse a truther has is to allege the information is "tainted" by the same conspirators.
Truthers will keep denying evidence and demanding the last word until they hear what they want. The show would never end if they had the last word. - alice104, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6You guys are pathetic. Your lies and rationalizations are transparent. Spending your lives patroling and policing 9/11 stories on Digg just so you can ***** on them and insult people.
Give it up.- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5Prove to me that you're right and I will. Drag out some real, credible, verifiable evidence that proves your theories and I'll quit. Let's see what you have.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2If physics won't convince you, WHAT WILL? Troll on....
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5Prove to me that you're right and I will. Drag out some real, credible, verifiable evidence that proves your theories and I'll quit. Let's see what you have.
- backflipper, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8Why would they leave the show with an unanswered question? Obviously they allow the "debunker" to have the last word so that no questions the "truthers" ask goes unanswered.
- duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -6/+21Look at this guys:
"A&E Television Networks is a media company that owns several TV networks on cable and satellite. The company is jointly owned by The Walt Disney Company, The Hearst Corporation, and NBC Universal. AETN's networks include The History Channel."
Corporate propaganda at its finest. And on TV there will be no analog to the argument presented. The general American public will not be able to see a different side of the story. Sad huh? also seeing that Hearst owns this channel makes me cringe. Is there are free information left in the world that doesn't cater to corporate interested?- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -10/+9Why would you expect them to provide alternatives to the truth? I understand that you people have lost touch with reality but you should at least make an effort to understand that your lies are not going to gain traction in the real world.
- virtualdc, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6What truth coppertop? Yours? You are the one who has lost touch with reality, credibility, and in the end your bogus online alter ego. Go away troll!
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -7/+7Okay, here's your chance to prove me wrong. Just provide just one piece of solid, credible and verifiable evidence that proves one of your theories. Just one is all I'm asking you for. Drag it out here and let us all see it.
- sikh888, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7It is the government's job to prove whatever they think happened that day and they failed drastically.
Why were several testimonies omitted from the 9/11 Commission Report including that of Norman Mineta in which he stated:
“During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane is 30 miles out….and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president “do the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?”
Why didn't they mention WTC 7 ?
Why didn't the FBI released decent video footage from the Pentagon incident ?
The fact is that the government didn't investigate 9/11 properly and refused to answer a lot of good questions, most of them from the victim's families. Why ? - Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -7/+6Asking questions is not presenting evidence. You people have made these ludicrous claims and now it's time for you to pony up and show us the evidence that you've based these claims on. Show us the evidence of STFU!
- sikh888, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Didn't you read what I wrote ?
IT IS THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSABILITY TO PROVE WHATEVER HAPPENED THAT DAY. THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE RESOURCES. Did they do it ? NOT. - Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Just because YOU say they failed does not make it so.
- sikh888, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Then answer my questions listed above.
- sikh888, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7It is the government's job to prove whatever they think happened that day and they failed drastically.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -7/+5Ooooooh. You insult people with a comment made in a Matrix Movie. Wow. Did your mommy finally let you see an R rated movie on your 15th birthday?
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5YOU sound like a child. Silly monkey, no banana. HEY! Stop that! THAT'S NOT A BANANA! BAD MONKEY!
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -7/+7Okay, here's your chance to prove me wrong. Just provide just one piece of solid, credible and verifiable evidence that proves one of your theories. Just one is all I'm asking you for. Drag it out here and let us all see it.
- virtualdc, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6What truth coppertop? Yours? You are the one who has lost touch with reality, credibility, and in the end your bogus online alter ego. Go away troll!
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -10/+9Why would you expect them to provide alternatives to the truth? I understand that you people have lost touch with reality but you should at least make an effort to understand that your lies are not going to gain traction in the real world.
- brjohnson789, on 10/10/2007, -5/+21I'm just sad for all the sheeple being led to the slaughter that will see this show on the History channel and will be like 'huhhuh, yeah, stupid conspiracy theorists. Our gov't would never do anything bad. Where's my beer?'
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8"'huhhuh, yeah, stupid conspiracy theorists."
What would make people do that? Oh... the scientific evidence.- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Your ass is leaking words again.
Physics is a science and the way the buildings fell defies this science. Which science were you referring to?- jcm267, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Just how did the way the buildings fell defy the laws of physics?
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Your ass is leaking words again.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8"'huhhuh, yeah, stupid conspiracy theorists."
- readthis, on 10/10/2007, -6/+20Too many unanswered questions. What do we have to fear from more investigation?
Tons of evidence that the tower's were brought down by explosives.
Watch the video showing the collapse of the 3rd WTC tower in 6.5 seconds: http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html
Read this paper, "Why Indeed Did the World Trade Center Buildings Completely Collapse?"
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/Why_Indeed_Did_the_WTC_Buildings_Completely_Collapse_Jones_Thermite_World_Trade_Center.pdf
Watch Video 9/11 Mysteries:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003
Many 9/11 peer-reviewed scientific articles:
http://www.JournalOf911Studies.com
Video: 911 Revisited
http://www.911revisited.com/video.html
Testimony of top Architects and Engineers:
http://www.ae911truth.org - simjamlmx, on 10/10/2007, -15/+9I don't understand why alex and the truthers take part in these shows when they know that they're going to be made to look like nuts. somebody tell me
- bennyxbo, on 10/10/2007, -6/+9Its because Alex knows we are going to win the info war either way.
- bennyxbo, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14Its because Alex knows we are going to win the info war either way.
- maxtangent, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Because to refuse is cowardly and looks like you don't/can't stand up for your beliefs.
Look how telling it is that Meigs will not debate Alex on the issues. These people must be challenged every step of the way. - Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -10/+7Because this is an ego thing. They are absolutely convinced that they know more than anyone else and all opinions except theirs are incorrect. They are, of course, wrong. Truthers have plenty of theories but that haven't got a single piece of credible evidence.
- syxle, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3You're so ridiculous.
It's just wrong. - wbfree, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I guess most around here don't waste time with you but maybe I need to see the futility in it. So tell me again how concrete pulverizes into dust without an outside force acting on it? And yet we see two passports made of paper and plastic still legible and they happen to be the box cutter wielding terrorists. Oh yeah, of which seven are alive and well and have been interviewed on the BBC. You are the one missing the proof pal. Besides we have the laws of physics and common sense on our side. What's your excuse?
- syxle, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3You're so ridiculous.
- drxavier, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6If they don't participate, the History Channel will call them nuts anyway. This way, they have a chance to make their case and trust that some people will think for themselves.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1"The History Channel" is a propaganda machine. Still playing the same old _UFO_ videos from 10 years ago. Yeah, real hard facts there.
- raphinaus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4because Alex knows he's right, and he's not afraid of taking these phonies on.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Alex Jones is a true patriot and should be an example for all in the US, regardless of which side of the fence they think they are on. If we could all speak so boldly (and loudly, whew) about what we believe in...well, we'd have what this country was founded FOR.
But nope. Just a bunch of uneducated, lazy people.
Alex Jones wakes people UP and makes them ask questions. ANYONE doing this deserves praise; buildings, politics, belief aside....
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Alex Jones is a true patriot and should be an example for all in the US, regardless of which side of the fence they think they are on. If we could all speak so boldly (and loudly, whew) about what we believe in...well, we'd have what this country was founded FOR.
- Jim0000000002, on 10/10/2007, -13/+6Those planes could never have taken down the buildings, let alone in the total microwave pulverization manner that they obviously came down in. Super high tech BLACK technology was used in front of billions, and the slaves can't see it. They can't see the Joachim and Boaz symbolism, either. 9/11 was an inside job, the beginning of the final stages toward the new world order.
- bennyxbo, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9You also said "Al Qaeda doesn't exist. Al CIAda, with light years-ahead technology, does. And they will eventually let the 9/11 truth come out." -- you are a busy-bee planting dis info all over digg.
- readthis, on 10/10/2007, -5/+17Because truthers are scientists, scholars, architects, engineers and other common patriotic citizens who believe science more than politics, love their country, and hate to see lives lost and people hurt based on lies.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6Because truthers are douchebags, losers, lames, and other common folk who deperately need something to belive in, have a desire to "belong", and gain self esteem from perpetuating lies.
Fixed.- Rabbit63, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Good argument. Typical of the way in which the 911 lies are presented. One of you faith brigaders recently started telling me to ***** a goat and making homosexual innuendos at me, in response to being asked to provide a soruce for some ludicrous claim he made. Quite accustomed to seeing ranting ad-hominem and profanity from the dwindling small percentage left who still cling like scared sucker fish to the official fairy tale.
- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4You didn't read any of the rest of this thread, did you?
- Rabbit63, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Good argument. Typical of the way in which the 911 lies are presented. One of you faith brigaders recently started telling me to ***** a goat and making homosexual innuendos at me, in response to being asked to provide a soruce for some ludicrous claim he made. Quite accustomed to seeing ranting ad-hominem and profanity from the dwindling small percentage left who still cling like scared sucker fish to the official fairy tale.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6Because truthers are douchebags, losers, lames, and other common folk who deperately need something to belive in, have a desire to "belong", and gain self esteem from perpetuating lies.
- Vermifax, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17I used to like the History Channel. Oh, well...
- Vinadetta, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17This sucks, but the the holes in the official story are so big, that no amount of duck tape is going to fix them or stop people from researching it further!!! The only thing that this show is going to do is to give those that would never open thier minds up to any alternative theory even more confirmation that everything the government says is 100% correct and it is silly to question anything that the powers that be say!!!! Too bad for them that this movement is growing by leaps and bounds everyday and they are scrambling trying to continue to prove the official LIE that the 9-11 Commission report is!!!
9-11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!! YOU MF'ERS!!!!!- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4Where did you get your doctorate degree?
- maxtangent, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16The wonderfully funny thing is that if the official story is so convincing, why are they having to prop it up still?
More and more people see through the lies.
There is no such thing as bad advertising - many will now look at Loose Change and Alex Jones for the first time and do some research on their own.- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -8/+7I fail to see how presenting scientific evidence is "propping it up".
More and more people are going to see this, and know you're full of *****. People who were ambivalent to your cause will see this, and know you're an idiot. You're going to be laughed at.
That's why Jones is so key to start denigrating it now. His ad revenue stands to take a big hit when people realize that he's nothing but a phony.- Rabbit63, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4The day we see any actual scientific evidence, in contrast to the usual ducking of science and facts from these clowns, will be the first.
So far my friend, the 911 truth movement has risen to double you faith brigadeer numbers, we have hundreds of independent experts and you have NONE. NOT one of the experts being presented by thie program are independent, all are employed by the government or organisations compromised by the government.
Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth has more than 130 professionals, and rising by about four per week since they began only a few months ago.
There is NO comprable organistaion for the 911 lies. NOT a single independent expert have you at this stage, and with numbers less than 16% in 2006, what chance you ever will get any?
ZERO. - SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5It truly does have the feel of the truth movement is imploding upon themselves. Just the desparation yesterday of them trying to show why the bridge collapse in Minnesota proves them right shows how much they're stretching. Add that in with the hordes of high schoolers on summer vacation going nuts on message boards this summer with their dreams of V for Vendetta and M for Matrix. It's show how pathetic they're becoming, and how they're losing credibility, so they just shout louder and louder and claim more and more people are in on "it".
- Rabbit63, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4The day we see any actual scientific evidence, in contrast to the usual ducking of science and facts from these clowns, will be the first.
- theblueprint, on 10/10/2007, -8/+7I fail to see how presenting scientific evidence is "propping it up".
- LadyKofNYC, on 10/10/2007, -5/+17Not surprising. One of the history Channel's is devoted completely to the glorification of the Military Industrial Complex.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5I think you missed the memo where your hero Ron Paul said the truthers are essentially idiots.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Almost every time I pass that channel on the way to Comedy Central (for a better aproximation of news), I see guns, tanks, bombs, et al. It sickens me how they push up the 'cool factor' in their presentation.
Way MIC compliant.
- 3n7r0py, on 10/10/2007, -8/+17http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - http://patriotsquestion911.com/ -http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - http://patriotsquestion911.com/
- 3n7r0py, on 10/10/2007, -9/+12http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - http://patriotsquestion911.com/ - http://patriotsquestion911.com/
- Robodoon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12Oh sure Corp History Channel will get to the bottom of it :rolleyes:
The buildings were demoed, I said it that day as I watched it and I still say it today, but now there is proof that they were. ;) Golly!
May God Bless America again, and may we recognize the enemies of old, who our founders warned us about.- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2You too? I stood there and asked the person next to me why we had just watched a building being demolished just as another started to be blown up. My eyes were not clouded by fear that morning and have NEVER been since.
Kudos, fellow patriot.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2You too? I stood there and asked the person next to me why we had just watched a building being demolished just as another started to be blown up. My eyes were not clouded by fear that morning and have NEVER been since.
- forgottenhope, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Of course george bush is not capable of organizing 9/11. That is not what the truth movement asks. All that we ask is that any question that you have about 9/11 that no one has an answerer for. Example, where did the planes go? No group of people could keep this a secret. Many experts disagree that our government wouldn't do it. Thats great, they also like suspending one of the building blocks of many years ago.
But what no one person can get around is that laws of physics can not, i repeat, can not be suspended for george bush's lack of intelligence nor groups of people that could keep a secret.
You find an answer to laws of physics being able to be suspended, and I will listen to any who thinks the official story is the work of our wonderful flawless, lawful government. - groundhog777, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I use to have alot of respect for the history channel, but no more the people know 911 was an inside job, and the people are not buying this crap!!
- FelicityJones, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8There is no way Hearst would shoot themselves in the foot and air the truth. It is going to be a PM style hit piece. If they air this garbage, not only are they complicit with covering up mass murder, but they will also be accessories to the next staged attack by helping the perpetrators proceed forward. These people have no conscience to speak of.
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6"It is going to be a PM style hit piece."
So it's going to be historically and scientifically accurate as opposed to the crap the truther movement has been spreading? Well, I'll be watching.- FelicityJones, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2It's laughable that you consider Hearst yellow journalism "historically and scientifically accurate".
PM has been debunked long ago:
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/
Scientific analysis on how the towers fell:
http://howthetowersfell-ri.blip.tv/
Wake-up call to those living a lie (which is almost everybody):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331
Wake up America. Your country is being stolen right from under from you.
- FelicityJones, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2It's laughable that you consider Hearst yellow journalism "historically and scientifically accurate".
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6"It is going to be a PM style hit piece."
- wakeupyouidiots, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I used to view The History Channel as the do all, be all, as far as the the subject of history goes.
It's really disappointing to know that they are just as controlled and manipulate the truth as ALL media does these days.
This, I suppose, is why the Bible states that "the truth shall set you free".....thanks for setting us critical thinkers free Alex Jones, kudos to the
Watson brothers. They are real journalists.- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5And then as soon as they insult your cult... you whine and cry. Don't worry, you'll be back in those Special Ed classes in September.
- cp833, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16I am so sick of this *****. I have some questions for all you 'debunkers' which I really would be genuinely interested in your replies to. You are forever saying to us 'You troofers are full of *****! I have not seen any evidence to back up your crazy delusional accusations!!' etc etc.
Yet, when it comes to the official story, which is still yet to be conclusively proven to be true (I wonder why that could be), you have no problem swallowing it up completely. No-one has been able to prove what we are officially told is true, and quite frankly some of it is so far-fetched it is insulting. Yet, you willingly accept all of it, while only demanding to see proof for the 'conspiracy theories'.
So here are my questions. Obviously you believe the official account in its entirety, right? So, are you telling me you believe..
1. We were attacked because we are the brightest beacon for freedom in the world and Bin Laden hates our freedom?
2. Despite the enormous amounts of debris, smoke, charred remains, fire and dust, one of the alleged hijackers passports SURVIVED UNTOUCHED, floated down to the floor and just happened to be spotted by an FBI agent who was just passing through?
3. The hijackers accidentally left their Korans in their car (but remembered to bring their box-cutters)?
4. The Pentagon was taken by surprise and could not have foreseen or prevented itself from being attacked?
5. The BBC reported the collapse of Building 7 early because of a mistake due to the confusion, even though they managed to not only 100% accurately 'predict' the way it would collapse as well as the (unprecedented) REASONS for its collapse? (And then lost the tapes for reasons of *****-up, not conspiracy?)
6. The war games being conducted that morning (of planes crashing into buildings) was a pure coincidence and no-one could have guessed that it would actually happen on the same day?
7. Fighter jets weren't scrambled in time to prevent the attacks because after the Cold War it was assumed that an attack would come from outside the country?
8. The plane that hit the Pentagon swooped down and flew in a straight line just metres off the ground at speeds of hundreds of miles per hour, before accurately ploughing into a wall only several metres high, piloted by a man who had never flown a Boeing passenger jet before let alone under conditions of extreme stress?
9. Debris from Flight 93 can be expected to be found 600 ft/one mile away from the crash site, along with the bandana of Zacarias Moussaoui which, like the passports, survived unscathed?
10. 19 fanatical Arabs, directed from a cave in Afghanistan, caught the whole of the U.S. military intelligence, the whole of U.S. political and diplomatic establishments, and NORAD completely off guard?
I'm not mocking you, I would just genuinely like to know if you believe all of that. You are forever accusing us of believing in ***** theories, and so now I am accusing you of the same. Do you honestly believe all of the above statements are true?- PaulJamesPaul, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Of course no one has replied to your comment, because they don't have an answer...
- mango42, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4There IS no answer to the fantasies of psychopaths. They have to be STOPPED, is all. NOW.
AMERICA - you are on the brink of DICTATORSHIP due to the 9/11 Big Lie and you're STILL arguing detail instead of ACTING!
"Fog of war could explain why some people were confused on the day of 9/11, but it could not explain
why all of the..investigations and public testimony by FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue."
Thomas H. Kean, Chairman, 9/11 Commission 8/4/06
now a 'member' at:
www.patriotsquestion911.com - duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I noticed not one LGFers has responded! Bravo cp833!
- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4I'll respond:
Questions aren't evidence. True ***** Story.- duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2There is this site called YouTube, they would appreciate your comments.
- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Nice rebuttal. So you agree that cp833 is talking out of his ass? Cool.
- cp833, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2If I am 'talking out of my ass' why is it you are not able to answer any of my questions? I am asking for EVIDENCE to prove that those things are true, because according to the official version they are. Can you provide any?!?
- duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2There is this site called YouTube, they would appreciate your comments.
- molardiere, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5The three towers brought down by NWO explosives received no media attention as compared to President Clinton and Monica, the Menendes Bros., or O.J. Meigs works for Hearst. They are transparent, unless your brain has been thoroughly rinsed by TV.
- towne420, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Probably they'll mix in some of their digitally remastered Osama clips. Bunch of crooks, I want to see their lame explanation of building seven.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Well, ask any of the bashers here and they'll say fire. I sure hope they're not having any people over for BBQ's this summer, their grills might melt.
- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4Yeah, my grill doesn't handle jet fuel very well. And large buildings collapsing on it.
I really need a new grill, this thing is WEAK.- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I dare you to use jet fuel in it. Double-dog dare.
- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4Yeah, my grill doesn't handle jet fuel very well. And large buildings collapsing on it.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Well, ask any of the bashers here and they'll say fire. I sure hope they're not having any people over for BBQ's this summer, their grills might melt.
- Beck911, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6myspace.com/beck911truth
- sikh888, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16List of Morons Who Slipped Up And Practically Admitted 9/11 Was An Inside Job
1. Bush saw the first plane hit live on tv:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4841608667647433773&q=bush+saw+1st+plane+hit+tower&hl=en (1min)
2. Rumsfeld Says Flight 93 was shot down:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7171005197553914151&q=rumsfeld+flight+93+shot+down&hl=en (30sec)
3. Rumsfeld Says Missle Hit Pentagon: "Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center"
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/Missile-Not-Flight-77.html
4. NYC Mayor Slips- Knew Collpase in Advance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNmf76GUCw
5. SilverStein Admits WTC Was Pulled:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=Larry+silverstein
6. EyeWitness Said Missle, eh Plane Hit pentagon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA5AmFpQlJA
7. John Kerry Slips says WTC-7 Was Controlled Demolition:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLnaogsm60A
8. Bush is scared:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5M0xtxQVQ
9. Giuliani Caught In Bizarre Building 7 Lie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoGfhv80ii0 - sikh888, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9Revisit The Events of 9-11 From A Perspective You've Never Seen Before:
http://www.kickthemallout.com/staticpages/index.php/Revisit_9-11
Description:
"This video highlights 4 of the most obvious questions that still, after all these years, remain unanswered and totally ignored by our government. They refuse to answer them. There is no good reason for not doing so. It speaks volumes about what kind of people we have running our government. These are not conspiracy theories. These are simply valid questions that we should be demanding answers to." - Rabbit63, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10What will not come out of this program though it is an astounding fact of itself and has indirectly the greatest relevance is the following:
Whilst 911 Truth has now got hundreds of Inependent Experts onside, including the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth with more than 130 Professionals in Architecture and Engineering, which is gaining roughly four new profesisonals per week, in the short few months of its existence.
http://www.ae911truth.org/
This fact is of itself enough to make any thinking person sit up and pay attention to what we are saying in 911 truth.
By way of contrast the 911 Faith Brigade, those whose belief in the events of the day is based on faith in a poorly presnted and dicredited fairy tale by the worst admin in history; have EXACTLY ZERO independent experts in any field of consequence. The very few independent experts who spoke out before for the lies, have even come over to us. Today while those who believe 911 was an Inside Job number about 30%, those who believe the lie, are less than half that. (last poll was 2006, when it had fallen to 16%)
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/13469
Those who believe the official lies are a small, generally poorly educated and very ignorant band of dwindling lowest common denominators.
We have hundreds of Independent experts. FACT
You Faith Brigade, have ZERO independent experts. NOW I would like to see the History Channel piece mention that handy little fact!- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -7/+5You would think that with all of that behind you it would be easy to prove your case. However, the truther movement hasn't provided any credible evidence at all to support their easily disproved theories. You people lack any kind of even basic knowledge of engineering, fire science, architecture, metallurgy or physics. Architects and Engineers for 911 is a joke. Anyone can go there and sign up without establishing any kind of professional credentials. I would be interested in hearing exactly what your criteria are for establishing exactly who is and who is not independent. You claim, for instance, that the people at Architects and Engineers for 911 are independent but you fail to mention that many of them have political agendas that can only be helped by proving the truther movement correct. People like that are extremely likely to set aside professional judgments to support a theory that will promote their agenda. So your "experts" are no more independent or qualified than any that worked on other investigations. The only difference that I can see is that if they were any good at what they do they would have been recruited for one of the real investigations.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -7/+5I see you're on to you thousandth digg account trying to pimp your website.
- syxle, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12It was, obviously, an inside job.
Believing the official story is complete nonsense...
'Debunkers' are nothing but brainwashed coincidence theorists.- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -6/+7Prove it. I'm still waiting for one piece of credible, verifiable evidence from the truther movement.
- cp833, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Hey Herk!! I can prove it's a load of crap. Did you not see my questions earlier, which so far not one of you 'debunkers' has even attempted to answer? I wonder why that could be.
Answer these questions honestly, and then see if you think the official story is so believable after that. I will repeat them again for you because I doubt you can be bothered to scroll up again and read them.
So are you telling me you believe:
1. We were attacked because we are the brightest beacon for freedom in the world and Bin Laden hates our freedom?
2. Despite the enormous amounts of debris, smoke, charred remains, fire and dust, one of the alleged hijackers passports SURVIVED UNTOUCHED, floated down to the floor and just happened to be spotted by an FBI agent who was just passing through?
3. The hijackers accidentally left their Korans in their car (but remembered to bring their box-cutters)?
4. The Pentagon was taken by surprise and could not have foreseen or prevented itself from being attacked?
5. The BBC reported the collapse of Building 7 early because of a mistake due to the confusion, even though they managed to not only 100% accurately 'predict' the way it would collapse as well as the (unprecedented) REASONS for its collapse? (And then lost the tapes for reasons of *****-up, not conspiracy?)
6. The war games being conducted that morning (of planes crashing into buildings) was a pure coincidence and no-one could have guessed that it would actually happen on the same day?
7. Fighter jets weren't scrambled in time to prevent the attacks because after the Cold War it was assumed that an attack would come from outside the country?
8. The plane that hit the Pentagon swooped down and flew in a straight line just metres off the ground at speeds of hundreds of miles per hour, before accurately ploughing into a wall only several metres high, piloted by a man who had never flown a Boeing passenger jet before let alone under conditions of extreme stress?
9. Debris from Flight 93 can be expected to be found 600 ft/one mile away from the crash site, along with the bandana of Zacarias Moussaoui which, like the passports, survived unscathed?
10. 19 fanatical Arabs, directed from a cave in Afghanistan, caught the whole of the U.S. military intelligence, the whole of U.S. political and diplomatic establishments, and NORAD completely off guard?
I eagerly await your response. Of course I won't be holding my breath.- Noureddin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21. Bin Laden thing was bull. He died around 1999. He had nothing to do with 9/11. Only the fact that the people that actually did it used him as their excuse and copied how he looked most recent photo or whatever before he died. and used it.
2. Most likely the FBI must have place it their. There were no terrorists though. They remote contoled it. Heck if they can remote control a damn robot on mars then this is easy as hell to do. Also, If they can do a rocket too. Then it should still be possible even if we couldn't do the mars thing.
3. Korans?
4. No, They could. If they didn't let it happen like they did. I'll explain in an other post.
5. I don't know about that one. But, Building seven got "pulled" the owner admit AFTER saying quite a bit of excuses.
6. It wasn't a cioncidence. If you want more details I'll try in an other post. Its same as 4. Its just too much to type in all in one post. Sorry. :/
7. Hmmm... Tell more details. Too short of details. I think I might know what you're talking about. But, Not all too sure. Sorry again...
8. Ahahahaha. Whats lie will be next? "Aliens knocked out the man and controlled the plane to do a mricel and then wipe the man's memory and made him say "Was mi first time" lol
9. Didn't know that one. What would he have bandanna? Would it be a hat or something? Bandanna doesn't help all that much as the hat in the sun. :/
10. Foxnews: "It's true!" Man: "It has to be a lie!" Woman: "I don't beilive that..." -Foxnews waves some money at the man and woman- Man: "Well, It does seem kind of beiliveable." Woman: "Yeah, Maybe they were dressed up like americans... with long breads... And darkish Middle eastern skin... and guns...and 19 all in a groupp..."
lol
I'll try to answer the ones I'd said I'd put in details soon. Too much for now. :/ - Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4That's not evidence, *****.
Questions
are
not
evidence.
Get it through your thick, *****, skull. - cp833, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2So why can't you answer any of them then, *****?
- Noureddin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21. Bin Laden thing was bull. He died around 1999. He had nothing to do with 9/11. Only the fact that the people that actually did it used him as their excuse and copied how he looked most recent photo or whatever before he died. and used it.
- mango42, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Norman Mineta - testimony to 9/11 Commission
Thomas Kean - Chairman 9/11 Commission
Lee Hamilton - Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission
Bill Christison - former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis.
Can you guess what all these high-flyin' names have in common?
Find out at www.patriotsquestion911.com- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Ooooo, I know!
They're all liars!
- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Ooooo, I know!
- cp833, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Hey Herk!! I can prove it's a load of crap. Did you not see my questions earlier, which so far not one of you 'debunkers' has even attempted to answer? I wonder why that could be.
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -6/+7Prove it. I'm still waiting for one piece of credible, verifiable evidence from the truther movement.
- caponumen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8The National Geographic channel is in on this as well.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -8/+5Let me guess. They were in on it and covering up the REAL truth too?
Listen to yourselves. You're all maniacs.- Noureddin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Well, I'm not all that. I don't agree with the National Geographic part... But, I'm not saying its not true. It might be true. They are a big TV station. So, I don't know for though...
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/10/2007, -8/+5Let me guess. They were in on it and covering up the REAL truth too?
- azizeeee, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3History is in many cases not the real truth. History is decided by the Victors. Take this hit piece as a lesson to all those who don't understand the truth behind "history". Plus, isn't this a PRESENT issue? Why is it on the HISTORY channel??? Seems like the powers that be are trying to push the truth movement into the pages of history, becuase the way it looks is the pages of the future will be littered with the destruction of the false prophets that are the current worlds elite.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Becuase they want to move on to calling it 'history'. Simple.
- Noureddin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0It's not history. History has to be like 25 years ago AT LEAST. It's only been almost 6 years.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0"The difference between a national tragedy and a joke is about 20 years."
Woody Allen, loosely quoted from childhood memory. It's a wonderful lesson in perspective. - ringelman5, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1his·to·ry ( h¹s“t…-r¶) n. pl. his·to·ries Abbr. hist. 1. A narrative of events; a story. 2. a. A chronological record of events, as of the life or development of a people or an institution, often including an explanation of or commentary on those events:
hmm, seems like history to me.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0"The difference between a national tragedy and a joke is about 20 years."
- Noureddin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0It's not history. History has to be like 25 years ago AT LEAST. It's only been almost 6 years.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Becuase they want to move on to calling it 'history'. Simple.
- mango42, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9"Believing the official story is complete nonsense..."
Agreed 100%
'Debunkers' are nothing but brainwashed coincidence theorists."
Disagree 50% - sadly people, the other 50% seem to have something they desperately want to be kept HIDDEN. Why do you think this might be? What is it that distorts these 9/11 anti-Reality types so much that they will jump onto any thread, any print article, any website, any TV show and spill lies and deceit wherever they go? Do everything they can to eradicate anyone who gets in their way - either literally (Paul Wellstone, Dan Wallace, Chris Bollyn, JFK...) or figuratively - go take a look at what one Mort Devonshire has 'accomplished' at Wikipedia recently...
NO - you have to face up to the fact that those who set-up 9/11 will stop at absolutely nothing to keep their nightmare intact.
So they have to BE stopped - by us - all of us - NOW. - 3n7r0py, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Our Constitutional Republic has been destroyed. The foundation of American Liberty has been either erased, distorted or forgotten. Our entire planet is ruled by an oligarchy of bankers, oil men and global corporations. We the People find ourselves intoxicated and enslaved by an economic system that deprives the world of higher living standards, education and prosperity. The time has come to ascend upon Washington and RESTORE THE REPUBLIC! Rediscover Patriotism. Resurrect Dissent.
- jeremiah77769, on 10/10/2007, -4/+119/11 Was an INSIDE JOB! I just want to note that my eyes are open, and I am NOT one of the dumbed down sheeple. I will continue to spread the word in the all ways that I can. I will be handing out the flyer's that WeAreChange . org has put out on their website. SPREAD THE WORD, wake these stubborn morons up!!!
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5Actually, you are one of the dumbed down sheeple. You've marched off on this holy campaign of yours on the basis of false information from a conman that's playing you idiots like a violin. Welcome to the world of blind obedience. I'm sure you'll enjoy not having to think for yourself any more.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The founding fathers would've shot your lip off as useless. You should be ashamed of your pseudo-patriotics.
- jcm267, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3Oh lord. A WeAreIdiots fan. Why are you joining up with those illiterate douchebags? William "the janitor" Rodriguez wasn't looking for anyone?
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5Actually, you are one of the dumbed down sheeple. You've marched off on this holy campaign of yours on the basis of false information from a conman that's playing you idiots like a violin. Welcome to the world of blind obedience. I'm sure you'll enjoy not having to think for yourself any more.
- Noureddin, on 10/10/2007, -8/+0V=QUOTE=V
i have an unanswered question for the truthers - let's say for a second there was some big government plot to drop the towers. why get planes involved? and if you don't believe planes; rockets, really large canaries with attitude problems, whatever. if the gov wanted to fake an attack as an excuse to go to war, they could have just blown up the towers and said "they bombed us!" why go through all that extra bs of planes and involving even more people that could potentially spill the beans and creating additional complexities?
riddle me that, batman.
^=QUOTE=^
If it was a rocket they couldn't have made it that easy to be fake. So, They could make a fake remote contol plane very easy. But, A rocket thats fake AND is somehow is remote contoled its just hard as heck.
And if a rocket then it would just cause the War In Iraq alone. BUT, With a plane the get the excuse to put camras! "They are pubic things! They might be hiding and waiting" SINCE the "terrorists" already did cars. So, They get the excuse to use camras and all.
Its for control. Man, You are slow. It's quite simple. :/
They want;
control, By making you fear and putting cameras everywhere and other things like saying terrorists are gonns get ya. Like the boogie man. He's not there but you still fear him.
Money, Companies, Oil, Profit from war. And other ways they get money.
Power, Having money and control gives them lots of power. There are other ways they get power.
I'll just end my post here for now. - shaggytoker, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5The government will find any way to silence the people that speak out against them. Look at the footage of 9/11; the buildings imploded, it was a controlled demolition. Giuliani and the owner of the World Trade Towers have said these things in past interviews. To think that certain people will go to this length to silence the people that are trying to obtain the truth. Hats off to them, and hell is waiting…
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5Prove it.
- sikh888, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/Why_Indeed_Did_the_WTC_Buildings_Completely_Collapse_Jones_Thermite_World_Trade_Center.pdf
- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4I couldn't stop laughing while reading that "paper"
Know what that is? Some guy's crazy rambling's in a pdf to give it credibility.- sikh888, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Really ? Why should I take your word for it ? Since it's a scientific paper from a certificated academic physics professor, you may aswell try to refute it scientifically. Good luck though, you'll need it.
- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I don't have to, his peers already have:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones#WTC_collapse_controversy - BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1This SHOWS how dumb you are...who the HELL would assume a document's FORMAT has *anything* to do with a document's legitimacy?!? WHAT?!?! That is some seriously retarded logic. Next, you'll be asking us to burn books becuase THAT format is stupid.
You remind me so much of Herk, I am willing to bet you are.
- Hortnon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4I couldn't stop laughing while reading that "paper"
- sikh888, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/Why_Indeed_Did_the_WTC_Buildings_Completely_Collapse_Jones_Thermite_World_Trade_Center.pdf
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5Prove it.
- theelectricafro, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Here is the simple science for you who are too brain-dead to realize what is happening here. The videos are all the evidence you need of a controlled demolition. First: notice the planes (yes there were planes) impacting the building and the amount of damage as a result. Especially take note of the size of the dust clouds and smoke clouds created by the force of the impact of the plane and resulting explosions caused by the fuel. Now fast forwards to the collapse. Look at how much dust is created immediately after the onset of the collapse. Something created the dust immediately and based on the videos did so with more explosive force than the impact of the plane and explosion of the fuel. If you believe this was gravity then neither science nor medicine can help you.
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Are you insane or just completely clueless? The videos are in no way conclusive evidence of anything. The fact is that chemical analysis of debris from the WTC has found zero traces of any kind of explosives or burning agents. There is no way possible to have a controlled demolition without explosives. How much clearer can we make that for you? Is there another language that we can use that you would have less trouble understanding?
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1SOURCE?
You get my blood boiling this morning. I guess i should thank you for THAT.
Start sharpening your butterknife, dude.
- BrapAllgood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1SOURCE?
- Herkimer56, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Are you insane or just completely clueless? The videos are in no way conclusive evidence of anything. The fact is that chemical analysis of debris from the WTC has found zero traces of any kind of explosives or burning agents. There is no way possible to have a controlled demolition without explosives. How much clearer can we make that for you? Is there another language that we can use that you would have less trouble understanding?
- MoneyReformer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think a show like this is great for the movement. So many people will be watching this with truthers and truthers will be able to point out the cover ups.
It will also renew the 9 11 debate and draw more people into the discussion.
I can't imagine how they will explain the collapse of wtc7. I'm going to watch it with a puke bucket beside me just to hear this. - tmspecial, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The documentary is a big joke! Not one conspiracy theory has been proven wrong. Unless they show credible evidence, I believe that the US government was involved. There are just too many unanswered questions and conflicting statements.
- shaggytoker, on 11/30/2007, -0/+0However, these images, while refuted by professionals, point to a US involved attack. The explanations that they give don't make any sense. For instance, the hole in the Pentagon that they attribute a plain hitting. It doesn't make any sense, and they literally think that the plane disappeared upon impact of the building. There are some facts being withheld, but how many?
