239 Comments
- flailking, on 08/18/2008, -14/+425I could watch a toilet flush and learn more than I can from Bill O'Reilly...
- Qrange, on 08/18/2008, -2/+270the only difference is the direction the ***** goes.
- dsmx, on 08/18/2008, -20/+185Since generally more intelligent people watch the colbert report and the daily show then those who watch Fox "News" is anyone really that surprised by the findings?
- skelliewag, on 08/18/2008, -10/+142Papa Bear Bill O'Reilly doesn't need to tell people 'about' the news. He makes them feel it. In their gut.
- silverzone, on 08/18/2008, -13/+121It's because people who watch O'Reilly are More concerned with bashing the liberals than world events.
- clonemaster, on 08/18/2008, -4/+78Dugg for truth.
- dizturbd2, on 08/18/2008, -5/+76Dugg for Truthiness.
- inactive, on 08/18/2008, -4/+65Hmm, the nightly highlight of O'Reilly is his "body-language" segment. The Daily Show spends half of the show talking about the ongoing war between Georgia and Russia. Did we really need a study?
... there's a reason that The Daily Show reguarly books A-list guests, and O'Reilly has to continually cycle in the local nutjob-of-the-week - simX, on 08/18/2008, -7/+52The title is wrong, so this is marked as inaccurate. There was a study about this a while ago. It's not that the Daily Show and the Colbert Report provide better content. It's because those who watch TDS and TCR are *already* more informed and more interested in politics than the average person.
Altogether now: "Correlation does not equal causation!" - skipthefrog, on 08/18/2008, -8/+48All that thing is really saying is that more smart people watch Colbert and Stewart than other news: which only further proves what we already knew to be true.
- YodaJones, on 08/18/2008, -10/+44Belly button fuzz is more educational than Bill O'Reilly.
- silverzone, on 08/18/2008, -0/+29Wrong: Dugg for Truthiness.
- ZenMojo, on 08/18/2008, -2/+30The truth is, most of the people watching The Daily Show are getting their news from somewhere else already. We go to the Daily Show and The Colbert Report to decompress after a hard day's osmosis of self-destructive tragedy and mainstream stupidity.
Anyway, everyone knows conservatives don't understand irony. - robopuppy, on 08/18/2008, -4/+30I kept clicking the 'Digg Up' button over and over in hopes that you'd score more internets after reading your comment
- vt19991, on 08/18/2008, -1/+26That the news shows are a joke and that the comedian and his show are more intelligent and thought provoking.
- imnojezus, on 08/18/2008, -1/+25Hey... you don't need to be liberal to be pro-panda.
- nightfright, on 08/18/2008, -6/+28dugg for truth
- KMartSheriff, on 08/18/2008, -0/+22I'd watch the news more often if they featured actual news, not "controversy" or "opinions" or whatever the ***** Brittany Spears is doing.
- MattB123, on 08/18/2008, -7/+28I bet the O'Reilly watchers would claim to know more and probably believe it too. That's scary.
- hipnerd, on 08/18/2008, -1/+22They have been able to correlate political intelligence by asking questions about current events. Viewers of Fox News programming consistently score low in this regard, viewers of the Daily Show score higher than everyone except daily newspaper readers.
I'd argue that measures intelligence regarding political events rather well.
I fully understand why you stopped watching O'Reilly (although not why you started.)
Why did you stop watching The Daily Show? - puppyfox, on 08/18/2008, -2/+23Of course you would, fluid dynamics is a serious science. The funniest part is, this is not the first study released with these results, I remember one some time back that had the same conclusion. My NPR/Stewart/Colbert news diet looks pretty nutritious.
- Idietired, on 08/18/2008, -3/+21Stewart/Colbert have become modern-day heroes of journalism.
Stewart has carved his place as the man who wasn't afraid to put the news organizations in check, and Colbert -- not unlike a modern-day Murrow -- has put his jokes aside on many, many occasions to deliver a very real, stifling commentary on matters that are no joke.
They answer politically to no one, and that makes them (I think) the most honest opinion in news. - vinod1978, on 08/18/2008, -0/+17whaleyboy69 - FYI the data is there. Here are two snippets of information you should know.
1. "Viewers of Jon Stewart’s show are more likely to have completed four years of college than people who watch “The O’Reilly Factor,” according to Nielsen Media Research." (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6117542/)
2. Questions were asked to individuals, and then they were asked what TV shows they watched to get their information. The Daily Show & The Colbert Report (it was a combination of both of those shows) reached #1. Meaning the viewers of these shows answered general political questions more accurately then people that watched the O'Riley report, or even CNN.
http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledg ... (scroll down and read the "Knowledge Levels by News Source" graphic).
If this doesn't convince you, then you are just denying what is reality. - TheJimid, on 08/18/2008, -1/+17Well you could learn from Bill O'Rie..........***** IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!!!!!
- pintomp3, on 08/18/2008, -1/+17and people who watch dobbs are more concerned with kicking the brown people out of the country. dey tok our jerbs!
- rz8472, on 08/19/2008, -0/+16Correct; you learn nothing from a toilet flush, and you learn lies from O'Reilly.
- omenmedia, on 08/19/2008, -1/+17Comment of the year.
- FTWmovin2canada, on 08/18/2008, -5/+20I can't wait for someone to try to disagree with your point. This is going to be funny.
- getoffmybridge, on 05/05/2009, -3/+18You eat pieces of ***** for breakfast?!
- inactive, on 08/18/2008, -0/+15He's a proponent of internet censorship. He needs to, in his own words, "shut the hell up."
- notthatnoise, on 08/18/2008, -1/+15read the survey. thats what they did. they measured intelligence.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -2/+16"What about the people who read Huffingtonpost, jedreport, dailyklos, and thinkprogressive? "
Those people are also more educated than the Fox News crowd.
"Face it, the right wing garbage machine is = to the left wing garbage machine."
Wrong. Certain ideas are more reflective of reality than other ideas. Journalistic integrity comes from reporting TRUTH. It does not come from reporting "both sides" of an issue. Not all issues should have "two sides." This "two sides to every issue" ***** was created as a means to introduce absurdities into common dialog. Where have we heard it before? "We report, you decide." Or, "Fair and Balanced." By equating these two "garbage machines" you lend credence to the fascist ideas pushed by Fox by putting them on equal footing with the ideas that are pushed by HuffPo, et al. By extension, this means that a "reasonable" viewpoint could be arrived at by triangulating between these two extremes. This is also absurd. Fox's ideas do not become any more reflective of reality by virtue of their ratings, or their supposed preeminence in viewer's minds. If you believe that "far left" media and Fox are equal, then Fox has succeeded in convincing you that they are a coordinate to be used in the triangulation of reality. "We report, you decide" is a strategic weapon employed by Fox in their assault on reason itself. - notthatnoise, on 08/18/2008, -0/+13i don't understand people ripping thinkprogress. this wasn't their study. the study was done by the pew research center, an extremely credible organization.
- bencanfield, on 08/18/2008, -0/+13I don't think you get it.
- inactive, on 08/18/2008, -2/+13Comedy Central alone is more trustworthy than all the other news networks combined.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 08/19/2008, -1/+12Fox is the majority of the problem.
- omenmedia, on 08/19/2008, -1/+12"Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. Now, I know some of you are going to say, "I did look it up, and that's not true." That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut. I did. My gut tells me that's how our nervous system works."
- VitriolAndAngst, on 08/18/2008, -1/+12Just because you are laughing, doesn't mean you aren't learning. Even the nonsense that they have in skits, gives people a mental perspective on how they are being manipulated.
Boring news, doesn't challenge you or make you think. Sure, there might not be a huge amount of time or content -- but really, if you get two or three GOOD ideas of what is going on -- that is a lot more useful than the hour of pundits talking about offshore drilling when they are highly trained at deception. - bradysdaman, on 08/18/2008, -2/+13These are not just comedy shows...I don't understand why people keep saying that. Colbert and Stewart make fun of the "pundits" and others while talking about world events. The shows being funny just makes it more interesting to watch than all of those other options.
- Caffeinate, on 08/19/2008, -0/+10When do neocons ever do anything but criticize? They have absolutely no ideas of their own beyond rampant self-interest, so they have to criticize everything that doesn't directly serve that.
Seriously, when have you heard one support anything? It amazes me how hard-heartedness has become a virtue for them, and any trace of human compassion is anathema. How is it that killing people is so much more important than doing positive things in the world? If that isn't evil, then there is none. - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -2/+12Do you feel bad because it reminds you of your little right wing friends?
Help help, my lying warmongering rightard friends are drowning!
It's funny when such an unethical and honorless coward like yourself criticizes ANYONE else.
Honestly, you can BARELY criticize paedophiles and still be in the moral right. - tweedius, on 08/18/2008, -8/+18The problem here is that Lou Dobbs was included in this study. But seriously, what does this say about people and the media in general if they would rather watch Comedy ***** Central then news networks?
- ghank, on 08/19/2008, -0/+9Can I use that on a T-Shirt?
- Albumen, on 08/19/2008, -1/+10"But seriously, what does this say about people and the media in general if they would rather watch Comedy ***** Central then news networks?"
It's obvious really. For the same reason I watch South Park. Behind the potty humor is a show that consistently takes on the current issues of the day and provides sane discourse on serious topics and insane discourse on the crap the media is obsessed with that doesn't desreve the air time People would rather watch Stewart and Colbert because mainstream news is no longer about journalism and hasn't been for some time. They manage to inform while they entertain. Additionally, dumbasses aren't watching those shows to begin with because they wouldn't get the humor which is usually based on the facts of the stories.
I was employed in TV in the early 90s and noticed two distinct camps I call the journalists and the broadcasters. The former were passionate about journalism and the mission they had to bring the important, appropriate news to the people. The latter were more about ratings and making the jump to the larger market or they were just too young to understand what the implications of stories were to the audience. Asking a 22 year old line producer to make judgement calls about things they have no experience of is a recipe for disaster.
And while I'm at it... who really gives a ***** what Cokie Roberts has to say about anything!?! Its just the DC insider people lubing up and strokin' their tools. The White House press corps members are hamstrung by their need for access to the players in the government... the newsman who tells the painfull truth will be shut out, so the answer is to "go along to get along."
Ultimately, I blame the British. That's right, the Brits and their damn tabloid journalism! That was the precursor to "A Current Affair" (which starred future douchnozzle extroadinaire, Bill O'Reilly) which spawned a whole other carcass full of maggots. You could argue that Rupert Murdoch is behind the lion's share of this and you'd be right... but remember, although he's Australian, he was educated in Britain and therefore kinda British. From Wikipedia: "When the daily newspaper The Sun entered the market in 1969, Murdoch acquired and converted it into a tabloid format, which by 2006 was selling three million copies per day." He did the same thing with the New York Post and also created that bastion of journalistic integrity STAR Magazine.
So, to return to the Daily Show, and the Colbert Report; There is more intelligent, insightful journalism hidden in the bits and gags contained therein than there is in most of the "mainstream" news shows. These shows will call a spade a shovel regardless of the politics involved. They are able to draw attention to the absurdities of our government in action precisely because they are not too close to the players to step on toes, and that's what real journalism does. It shows you the facts without regard to whom it will piss off. - graphictruth, on 08/19/2008, -0/+9They did, they became corrupt, but they were smart ENOUGH to delay the impact (or at least a widely recognized impact) until The Regan Revolution. Those folks thought being crooked was enough. Fact is, if you are gonna sell your integrety, your good name - you have to have some.
- Cuchanu, on 08/18/2008, -1/+10I was about to say the same thing...apparently those two think that illegal immigrants are all murderers and rapists. Among other ridiculous things.
- ashwinmudigonda, on 08/18/2008, -6/+15I don't know about you guys, but reading this article...a tiny happy tear slid down...a tear of pride and happiness that I watch the right programs every night and the repeats the next day.
- Stormwern, on 08/18/2008, -0/+9Yea, it's probably that, smart people have no interest in watching stupider people telling them what to think. As for the news broadcasts, I have to agree with Stewarts crossfire rant, it's theater. They have decided they are not capable of making any judgements by themselves, so they adopt the questionable motto of giving you the facts and letting you deside...who am I kidding, that would take research, they give you each side's talking points and let you deside.
- tm13lke, on 08/19/2008, -1/+9well, garjon, it usually requires some intelligence to get through a college degree. sure, its different with every degree and school...but come on.
- brianjlowry, on 08/18/2008, -2/+10Yes, all the viewers of Fox "News" would be surprised by the findings; assuming of course they traversed political news stories on sites like Digg - which they don't.
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