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- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -20/+706Her little act of defiance tonight---basically an "F-you" to her fellow colleagues in the DNC---is reason enough for Obama NOT to offer her the vice Presidency. She did not, and has not, played by the rules. She refuses to accept reality---tonight was his night and she should have been graceful about it. Instead, she just tried to fire up her supporters into writing more entreaties on her website. Well I wrote her...and told her to step down! AND...I refuse to have one penny of the $$$ I sent to the Obama campaign go to get her campaign out of debt...especially after she continued to buy ads in Montana this week! The writing's on the wall, biotch! Please, go home. Take your toys and leave the sandbox. Oh yeah, and take your philandering husband w/you. When we elect a woman for President---and eventually we will---let's make sure it's one who's the best candidate for the job AND who plays by the rules, a woman who we can respect, who we want our daughters (and sons) to emulate.L3
- toddcat, on 06/04/2008, -13/+311No kidding. The woman should have conceded about 2 months ago if she cared about the Democratic party.
- snafflepaffle, on 06/04/2008, -11/+234Why can't the Clintons have a little class? WTF is wrong with those people? Take a cue from Mike Huckabee and gracefully bow out.
The Clintons are a deeply divisive force in politics. I saw this early on in the campaign and nothing has happened since to convince me that 4 years of Hillary wouldn't be just like the last few years of Bill.
I used to think that the major partisan divisions that appeared during the Clinton years was due to republican avarice and hatred for a successful president who wasn't one of their own. Now I'm starting to believe that it might have been Bill's fault.
No VP slot for them. Please. - Boopsie2008, on 06/04/2008, -13/+216I'm sooooooooooooooo ashamed that she's my senator. She's a disgrace to womanhood. I keep wanting to give her the benefit of the doubt, yet she consistently keeps doing the most selfish, low-class thing possible. Every time she opens her mouth, it's all "me, me, me." I don't think the Obama campaign should be tied to this woman and her uncontrollable husband. She shows total disrespect for Obama by her actions, and doesn't realize that one should show a little humility when asking the boss for a job. She has incredible gall to imply that she is owed anything. She was owed a hearing by the American public and she got it - they chose Obama instead. Deal with it, already.
- rondigg1, on 06/04/2008, -7/+183One of the few to speak plainly about the pathology of the Clintons. He's absolutely right. How is it her night? It was his night, and all she could offer was a generic congratulation - no mention of the historic achievement his winning represents, and now call to rally around the nominee. Contrast with his gracious tribute to her.
I don't think she's ensuring herself the nod for VP, all due respect. Her behavior will have set up a counterforce within the Obama campaign. And her and her supporters (like Lanny Davis) seeking to pressure him with her "leverage" guarantees a rejection, no doubt accomplished with the a weeks-long buffer of marginalizing her.
Obama promises to turn the page on the old politics. Hillary and Bill's faces are on that page. - georgemason01, on 06/04/2008, -32/+203She is biding her time until the assassination attempt.
- jbdobd, on 06/04/2008, -10/+157Hillary cares about Hillary. Nothing else. No one else.
- HenvY, on 06/04/2008, -9/+144Reading the comments on the CNN blog is incredibly depressing. The amount of people who say they would vote for McCain just because they can't take losing as amazing. I found this quote a great summation of their views, "Switching from Clinton to McCain is like a person, in desperate need of shoes. They find two pair of identical shoes - one in black and the other in brown. The ask for the black pair, but receive the brown shoes. So they shoot themselves in the foot just for spite. It is insane, and just shows how uninformed some of these people are."
- peterjmag, on 06/04/2008, -4/+85Winning the majority of delegates is pretty much as close to a mandate as you get.
- dflawson, on 06/04/2008, -5/+82Politically, she's toast. Deranged narcissistic toast.
- HenvY, on 06/04/2008, -7/+84Strange how relevant this comment I made in January is even though it now literally is impossible for her to secure the democratic nomination,
"Hillary Clinton must be kept out of the white house at all costs. She is an egocentric megalomaniac who cares not for the American people but only for her own empowerment. This is a woman who will let crocodile tears rain from her eyes to gain a female sympathy vote in a state where she was about to lose on the issues, and then accuse her opponent of campaigning on race. This is a woman who will tell blatent lies to the media and voting public about what her opponent has said, and then lie some more to cover it up. This is a woman who has convinced the public she is the candidate of experience when she has no more than her opponents. John Milton once said 'Necessity, the tyrants plea' and there is no candidate in this race who thinks themselves more necessary than Hillary. I realise i'm probably preaching to the choir here, but everybody who agrees with what I say needs to spread the message - Hillary will be a disaster for America. End the Bush-Clinton era NOW." - Gerz1219, on 06/04/2008, -1/+70I agree completely. If Hillary wanted the VP slot, she should have run a very different race. She should have stopped trying to tear down Obama months ago, as soon as it became apparent to everyone outside Hillaryland that she'd been mathematically eliminated from the nomination. It's all well and good that she wanted to run in every state and wait until the voting was over. The problem is not that she refused to drop out until the end of primary season, it's that she continued to run such a polarizing and negative campaign. She has fostered all the division and resentment in the party. Just Saturday, she actively encouraged her supporters to march on Washington, knowing full well that the RBC's decision would not hand her the nomination, no matter how favorable the outcome. Inciting a riot is not a conciliatory gesture. Last night, after objectively losing, she continued to lie to her supporters that she had more votes and perpetuated the idea that she's been unfairly denied the nomination. Her speech last night was the political equivalent of pushing Humpty Dumpty over the wall and threatening to withhold the only stick of krazy glue in the kingdom.
How could they even plausibly run on the same ticket at this point? Most people know that this is politics, and that most debate is really theater. But I mean, she's said (or implied) repeatedly that Obama is inexperienced, sexist, can't win white voters, stole the election from her, and is unelectable in the general. How will her acceptance of the VP slot change any of that? She's consistently refused to fall back on the talking point she's supposed to repeat over and over again to qualify her attacks -- the idea that whatever their differences, Obama will be a better choice than McCain. I followed the 2004 primaries closely, and there was a clear point where John Edwards stopped running for president and started running for vice president. He hadn't dropped out, but he ran positive against Kerry and negative against Bush. There's nothing like that here, so I don't see how Hillary can pivot and smile.
Furthermore, Hillary has played her hand in such a way that if Obama bends to this blatant extortion, it will make him look weak. This is the guy that's arguing for tough diplomacy with dictators and terrorist organizations. If he folds before a castrating bitch in a pantsuit, it will severely undermine his case that he can disarm Iran. - tdishman, on 06/04/2008, -4/+70I haven't been paying close attention to what's going on, but I did watch for a few minutes last night. What was painfully obvious is that Clinton is using her supporters as leverage in an attempt to secure the VP nod. Early in the speech she said something to the effect of "Obama and I are in negotiations to unite the party" or some similar *****. Translated that meant "I had better get something out of this or I'll run this party into the ground".
- nurall, on 06/04/2008, -0/+65that's why he can't make her his vp
- bannonto, on 06/04/2008, -1/+62I was watching CNN this morning with my 8 year old daughter. When she saw a Democrat say that she was going to vote for McCain, her jaw dropped. She said "Aren't Democrats supposed to believe in most of the same things. If they don't like him, they must not be REAL Democrats."
If an 8 year old can see this, why can't these supposed Democrats see it. - RoroCo, on 06/04/2008, -0/+59Courage to run the race to the end is a good thing, but it is lunacy if you do not have the humility to admit you lost the race. Asking her to be the VP will give her the ability to continue running this race in her narcissistic mind.
- warriorscot, on 06/04/2008, -0/+57What Obama needs to do is select a vice presidential candidate that is female but not a Clinton thus taking the wind out of the sexism nuts sails.
- fmaxwell, on 06/04/2008, -3/+55You don't need a "mandate." You need to win the majority of delegate to become the Democratic nominee. Obama has done that. Therefore, Obama has won and Clinton has lost. No amount of pouting, lying about the popular vote, or whining is going to change that.
Despite the tide of racism and bigotry that swept her to victory in states like West Virginia and Kentucky, Obama still won. She even reversed her position on Florida and Michigan, demanding that their delegates be seated despite because hers was the only name on the Michigan ballot and that, in Florida, Obama was basically unknown and had never campaigned there. She needs to get over it and quit whining, crying, and throwing temper tantrums. - inactive, on 06/04/2008, -5/+53Just wait till she goes 3rd party.
- toxicityj, on 06/04/2008, -4/+52Just watch...when she finally bows out (in a few years...) she'll say "the country wasn't ready for a woman president". Anything to make it look like she had some sort of disadvantage. Anything to avoid the reality that she's just a horrible person and would make a horrible president. No, Hillary. The country was ready for a woman president. The country just didn't want YOU to be that woman.
- rhabd0mancer, on 06/04/2008, -3/+49Well she's not going to be VP, so she should pack it up and MOVE ON.
- Jeepy, on 06/04/2008, -8/+54As much as I hate the way Hillary ran her campaign and hope she doesn't get the veep now is not the time to be bashing her. The ball is in our court now (Obama supporters) and we have to step up as fellow members of the same party. Barack is our nominee now and there is no service to him in continued attacks on the Clintons now that they are out of the spotlight as far as November is concerned. Pointing and laughing at her supporters who are upset that all the effort they put into their campaign and still lost to a pretty big underdog is not endearing and frankly a bit hypocritical. We have called Hillary out during her campaign on being snarky and divisive now its time to prove that we actually do condemn these things by rising above them.
I know its easy to say ha ha we won but the hard truth is we need Clinton supporters to win in November. As of tonight Barack and Hillary are no longer opponents so let's focus on reconciliation and unifying our country for the first time in a decade. - inactive, on 06/04/2008, -5/+50she's shrewd and cunning. she stayed in this race for so long to show her 'strength' and send a signal that obama 'needs' her and to strengthen her own hand for her next move: pressuring him to choose her as his running mate. she'll suggest to him that if he snubs her, then a lot of her supporters will snub him and vote for mccain and "we'll risk losing the whitehouse". 'we' meaning the party she oh so desperately wants to help (or hide her naked ambition behind).
she wants to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. if he gets assassinated (which clearly has been on her mind), she wins all. if he wins reelection, she'll be positioned 8 years from now as 'the candidate with 16 years of experience working on presidential level policy decisions.'
all this woman sees is power and her own advancement. it's a game she plays to win at all cost and all her talk about 'helping americans' is a lot of self-serving *****. she looks out for number one and the rest of the world can go to hell.
if obama would be foolish enough to pick her as a running mate, he's going to lose a lot of supporters who see through hillary's insincerity, her damaging her own party and ignoring its rules, and her raw and unsavory ambitions for power at all cost. besides, the clintons have a long history of scandal and selfish behavior behind them. has everyone forgotten how much 'clinton fatigue' we all had before bushie started killing our children because god told him so?
politics. excuse me while i find a bucket to go throw up in. - suntzusputnik, on 06/04/2008, -3/+42she disgraced herself to the end. worse is that it was expected
- barbiesnow, on 06/04/2008, -5/+43I waited and I listened,and I waited... but all she did was glorify herself and the states that she had won, using their code names and the number of votes that she had amassed This is one twisted sister. She is not fit, nor does she deserve the respect that Barack Obama so graciously gave her..Just say no....to her being a VP. No way, no day, nada...Hasta la vista...Hillary..
- bsmang, on 06/04/2008, -1/+38Looks more like she's ensuring she WON'T get asked to be VP.
- jynweythek, on 09/17/2008, -6/+43i can't believe she didn't concede last night.
oh wait. - gwyrth, on 06/04/2008, -2/+33I would not sleep at night if my life was the only thing standing between Hilary Clinton and the office of President. Get a huge life insurance policy on him, Michelle!
- poxonyou, on 06/04/2008, -0/+31Not in the Clinton's Math Class. If you deduct a bunch of states, include PR, MI, FL, remove caucuses, and count half the residents of Shanghai, then she wins.
- lonehunter01, on 06/04/2008, -11/+38She's a heartless, power-hungry bitch who never had a chance, but decided to go on even though it would hurt the party. Do her current actions really surprise anyone? Par for course.
- peterjmag, on 06/04/2008, -2/+29Scary thought...
- dazparkour, on 06/04/2008, -2/+29I think it is too late to threaten to run the party into the ground now, you threaten BEFORE you do something.
- tomlasusa, on 06/04/2008, -1/+27Your Daughter for President -- 2048!
- Berkana, on 06/04/2008, -2/+27God forbid!
- chanop, on 06/04/2008, -1/+25How is Obama denying anyones feelings? He very very much reached out to Hillary and her followers last night. I think he very much acknowledges that it was a very close race, and he hit on the same points that Hillary was making during her campaign. The two main ones: Healthcare for everyone (which he said Hillary would be a big part of) and Get out of Iraq. These are 2 fundamental things that they share. If these Hillary-supporters are going to vote for the absolute opposite of that just because their candidate didn't get enough votes (popular or delegate) then that's really sad.
- jeremyduffy, on 06/04/2008, -3/+27The thing that frightens me is that this kind of crap is the same delusional thinking we get from our current president. Screw reality and screw what the people of America think/want, I'm going to do what >I< want!! WAAAA!!!!
- theaceoffire, on 06/04/2008, -0/+23Although Obama has the popular vote I believe.
- chanop, on 06/04/2008, -1/+24Romney and Rudy didn't give a victory speech when they clearly lost
- Fordi, on 06/04/2008, -0/+21"Kathleen Sebelius"
Yes. Sebelius has the advantage of being both female *AND* quality human - which is one more point than Clinton. - anbudom, on 06/04/2008, -3/+24If Obama losses the presidential race (unlikely), Hillary will be held responsible by the party. In her mind she's battling Obama but in reality she's the main architect of the downfall of the Democrats. But I strongly believe Obama will make minced-meat out of McCain.
- Amazetbm, on 06/04/2008, -0/+21Exactly. Let's not forget that the father of John Hinkley, Jr contributed heavily to Bush's primary run in 1980. How ironic that his son attempted to assassinate Reagan after he took office...and Bush was the VP
- fani, on 06/04/2008, -0/+20Its 3am. The phone rings in the White House and says -
"Hillary, you can't sneak in and sleep here. Get up and get out." - stfucupcake, on 06/04/2008, -2/+22If Hillary is leveraging for a vp slot then Obama will have 4 years of trying to control her ego.
I don't see this happening. Personally, I don't know many who would vote for him with Hillary on the ticket.
If Hillary's supporters won't vote for the party's official candidate, if she doesn't soon bow down and send that message to her followers, then they really must want 4 more years of Bush in guise of McCain.
Congratulations Hillary, you can go down in history knowing that you proved your point. - johnsonjoeb, on 06/04/2008, -5/+24Vice President? She's coming with a ***** of debt, political baggage, and an overbearing self-centered attitude. Obama might as well make her a second wife!
- pinchduck, on 06/04/2008, -0/+19Obama won the nominating contest and has a hard fight in the general election. The Obama fan boys and girls shouldn't tone anything down, they should gird themselves for 5 more months of campaigning. Hillary was divisive and ungracious on Obama's day of victory. It is right to call her out on it.
- Fragowell, on 06/04/2008, -7/+26I love that Hillary and Bill's arrogance through this campaign is making a lot of people rethink the Clintons and their legacy. There are a lot of us who have known what they were all along.
- Lazydriver, on 06/04/2008, -1/+18Um, can you blame us?
Hilary's lost. End of story. She's still going, just to be a selfish *****. Obama would've never done that. - Wormfather, on 06/04/2008, -0/+17Aggreed, she should also be someone who can deliver a state that Obama wouldnt otherwise get.
Warriorscot, meed Kathleen Sebelius, Governor of Kansas, 6 electoral votes. - spoonz, on 06/04/2008, -1/+18That's the wild card here I think. Is she ballsy enough to run Independent just to siphon enough votes from Obama to ensure he loses in November so she can run in 2012? I just think she might be. She isn't crazy she is cold, calculating and self-serving. She hasn't been spending millions of dollars on a failed campaign for nothing these past few months. She is trying to damage the party and Obama enough to make sure she has a chance to run in 2012. Her continuing to not concede, and back Obama is proof of that.
- fmaxwell, on 06/04/2008, -6/+22Quit painting with such a broad brush. Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton. Despite his personal failings related to his affair, Bill Clinton was a damned good President.
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