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- TyroPyro, on 05/05/2008, -8/+299"Clinton considering option to destroy Democratic party, assure McCain victory" also works as a title
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -7/+251It takes a Clinton to raze a village.
- thirdcoastborn, on 05/05/2008, -23/+186There won't be a black person in America that would vote for her in November if she pulls that crap.
- tcbishop12, on 05/05/2008, -5/+142Why, Hillary, I thought voters mattered to you! (Not)
They call this the nuclear option for good reason. If Hillary uses it, or even attempts to use it, she will obliterate the Democratic party. Whose side did she say she was on? Oh, that's right: hers.
All the more reason for the superdelegates to act now, commit to Sen. Obama, and seal this nomination away from Hillary's forthcoming nuclear war on the Democratic party. - breadfred, on 05/05/2008, -5/+133I should sincerely hope the same foes for white, red and yellow people as well.
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 05/05/2008, -8/+100Just proves she isnt in this for the voters. She's only in it for herself and her self-glory
- masterm1nd, on 05/05/2008, -5/+92Ohh I see, so blue man group and smurfs aren't people now.
- redcolumbine, on 05/05/2008, -4/+89Shoot the donkey in the head
Wipe out Blue by acting Red
Little people follow rules
Voters are a pack of fools
Supers standing idly by
While I obfuscate and lie
Only one thing it could mean
Screw the ballots, crown me Queen! - dld0531, on 05/05/2008, -17/+92If the Clinton camp exercises this undemocratic option, I will be forced to vote for McCain...
- inactive, on 05/05/2008, -5/+70To the people saying, "She would NEVER DO THAT!!!", instead of living in la-la land, you better BELIEVE she would do it. Why do you think she has spent the time and effort it took to stack the rules committee with her people? Look, take some action today: Go to the democrats(dot)org website and send them a 'contact us' note explaining that you will campaign AND vote against Clinton if she steals the nomination. Then, pass this note on to 10 other Obama supporters. The DNC needs to know that she is not electable even if SHE STEALS THE NOMINATION.
- glibpaxman, on 05/05/2008, -14/+70Even the spineless Howard Dean wouldn't allow this to happen... I hope.
- inactive, on 05/05/2008, -9/+64LOL!!!
I dare her to try!
Like all the superdels would stand idly by if she even dared attempt this asinine move!
Even if she miraculously got what she wanted using this "option', the supers would crush her with their votes.
She's blowing whatever smoke she can find to see if something, anything sticks. Hillary is so pathetically desperate I almost feel bad for her.
OK, it passed.
The DLC is dead. Long live the Democratic Party. - vance1, on 05/05/2008, -4/+58Who does this woman think she is? Give up already, Hillary, and stop ripping the Democratic party apart! Sweet Jesus...
Seriously, if she gets the nomination, EVERYTHING is wrong. - kmom5, on 05/05/2008, -3/+37I don't know which one bothers me most- that she is actually considering this, or that there are lots of people out there that see absolutely nothing wrong with usurping democracy...
- inactive, on 05/05/2008, -1/+34Instead of just leaving it to the superdelegates, go to the DNC website and tell them that you will campaign AND vote AGAINST CLINTON if she STEALS THE NOMINATION. The DNC, and Howard Dean are filled with politicians. Politicians need the appearance of a reason to do what they want to do in the first place. Give Dean a reason to reject any rule changes by Hillary. Write the DNC today at democrats(dot)org 'contact us' tab. Pass this on to 10 other Obama supporters. Help write the history you want to see, don't wait for someone else to write it for you.
- vandernderyid, on 05/05/2008, -5/+37I think you misspelled "Nuclear Option." The correct spelling is "Putsch."
- amfinkel, on 05/05/2008, -6/+34If Hilary is in any way successful with her outrageous and undemocratic plans, I am renouncing my membership in the Democratic Party. I implore everyone reading this to not only write your congressional representatives that you too will become an independent, but to truly follow through with the threat if she is successful.
- castlecraver, on 05/05/2008, -4/+31If this were to happen, Rush would get his riots in Denver.
- cranium, on 05/05/2008, -3/+29I think the message that the DNC needs to hear is that, if Hillary steals the nomination, many democrats will not only vote for McCain, but vote a straight Republican ticket, which will throw several tight races. How's *that* for your "nuclear option"?
- kaoru777, on 05/05/2008, -2/+26For some reason the democratic establishment seems to imagine that just because we voted Democratic in the primary they've got us for life, but if Hillary won by doing this and the supers-party establishment let it go through then not only won't I vote for Hill, I will unregister as a democrat. They'd loose the youth vote, some of it for good.
- asauterChicago, on 05/05/2008, -3/+26Screw it, I'll vote for Nader.
- rhabd0mancer, on 05/05/2008, -2/+25I suspect that Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman would both be offered high-level positions in a McCain administration.
- arbouler, on 05/05/2008, -3/+25somehow i feel like mitt romney is a much better person than hillary is. romney backed off for the sake of the party...hillary only wants to win the nomination. she should realize that voters who hate her but wont vote for mccain will only stay home to protest the general election...
- jogleby, on 05/05/2008, -5/+25I think that Hillary realizes that her chances of getting the nomination are small and she has now started a scorched earth campaign. She wants to weaken Obama enough that he will lose in the general election. The war and the economy problems aren't going to be over anytime soon, so this will leave a great opportunity in 2012 for her to step in for the Democratic nomination.
- Mejari, on 05/05/2008, -2/+22Gargamel, since when do you have internet?
- irightthebook, on 05/05/2008, -5/+25I'm an American, thank you, and an American first. Just because I'm a registered Democrat doesn't mean I have some blind allegiance to the party. In fact, I'm a registered Democrat almost solely so I could vote for Obama in my state's primary. I won't vote for Clinton come the general election because I don't want my vote to count in the election of someone who disparages economists as elitists and vows to obliterate Iran. I do that as an American, because I refuse to let my nation be sullied by some shadow of a woman. Nor will I vote for McCain.
Please check yourself before you go around calling fools those of us who won't blindly vote D straight down the ticket. You serve as an embarrassment to democratic values when you do. - drunkjack, on 05/05/2008, -3/+23Wow, the Clintons' thinking of doing something dirty and underhanded, I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED I say.
No more Clintons, no more Bushes. End this sick farce. - Identity4, on 05/05/2008, -1/+20***** McCain...I'll be writing in Mickey Mouse
- Amazetbm, on 05/05/2008, -1/+20If she did that, there are a lot of people who wouldn't vote for her...period.
- xceptionaly, on 05/05/2008, -2/+20I think sleezy underhanded tactics that ignore the will of the people so the candidate can continue on their own personal power trip is a pretty good reason not to vote for someone.
- adrianmonk, on 05/05/2008, -0/+16What really needs to happen, IMHO, is that the Florida and Michigan voters need to exercise their own "nuclear option" and get their stupid party leadership replaced with people who won't recklessly throw away the entire state's vote in a bid for more influence.
- Moosington, on 05/05/2008, -1/+17The DNC didn't ***** up, the states ***** up by moving their primaries up full well knowing what the potential outcome would be. The states are to blame, the DNC is merely maintaining authority and showing these two states that they can't just decide the order of primaries that have already been laid out by the Party. They were trying to make a political move to make themselves and their delegate counts more relevant and it backfired, Hillary trying to get these delegates seated is a blatantly ridiculous display of fear, she is brilliantly selfish.
- tcbishop12, on 05/05/2008, -2/+18Clever and apt.
- hinchb, on 05/05/2008, -2/+18Clearly the voters agree with you, which is why hilary is leading this race, right?
- inactive, on 05/05/2008, -13/+29What about Bill Clinton? Wasn't he the first black president? Won't he vote for his wife?
- T8erT0T, on 05/05/2008, -3/+18If Hillary pulls the trigger on this, I predict a blowback of sheer animosity that Obama supporters will have and they will vote against her out of spite. Hillary will burn any chance the Democrats have at regaining anything after this happens. It's one thing for the GOP and Bush cronies to disenfranchise democratic voters, but for a candidate to do this to their own paty?! How could she expect to gain any support after this?
Howard Dean needs to grow a pair and law down the law, or else this will be the black eye he caused for the party for years to come. - TyroPyro, on 05/05/2008, -0/+14http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership ...
- thatwasawkward, on 05/05/2008, -4/+18Honestly, even if she did try this she would fail and would look even worse. This "plan", for it to work, would need the support of Howard Dean's personal appointees to the Rules and Bylaws Committee. It's inconceivable to me that he would allow her to pull this off.
- flossdaily, on 05/05/2008, -0/+13I can't vote for McCain, but if Hillary pulls this stunt, I'll write-in Obama.
- gnuyen, on 05/05/2008, -2/+14Obama and Edwards took their name off the ballot. Hillary said she "forgot" to
- inactive, on 05/05/2008, -3/+15He decided to not put him name on the ballot because the democratic convention pledged to not campaign in Michigan and Florida.
- kymike, on 05/05/2008, -2/+14I just don't understand how any Democrat could vote for her. I mean, I'm an ashamed former Republican (thanks to Bush), and although I was hoping Ron Paul could pull a miracle, I'm going to vote for Obama because he is clearly a decent and intelligent person. We need that more than anything.
But I WILL NOT vote for Hillary. Democrats can either have this election, or they can give it to the Republicans by nominating Hillary. How hard is it? I WANT to give the Democrats my vote! My vote takes one from the Republicans, and gives it to the Democrats. (And there are lots more like me!) Please, LET me give you my vote - just nominate the best person you have: Obama! - Disgod, on 05/05/2008, -2/+14Every single reason that she is saying Obama isn't as electable as her are completely media fabricated. She has federal charges pending against her, and all the media wants to talk about are his pastor and the word bitter. The media in this country is out of control, not that this is new, but the way they are treating Obama borders on racism, I swear. Hillary lies and cheats constantly, and the media pretends that she has a shot at winning this race legitimately. Obama says something real, like people are bitter, and dear god it's like the world stopped turning and he had actually called all white people sheep raping, child molesters.
Obama has integrity and he got in trouble for it. He chose to defend a friend, Jeremiah Wright, instead of distancing himself, but then Wright betrayed Obama's trust with his new level of crazy and Obama is the one taking the hit, so Obama has to finally distance himself from Wright, and, it's obvious that Wright isn't speaking for Obama, but the media is acting like it came straight from his mouth. First he gets in trouble for defending Wright, and now he's in trouble for distancing himself from Wright, he's "throwing Wright under the bus". McCain has done the exact same things and no one raised an eyebrow, but nope Obama is EVIL. The media and Hillary sicken me. - 4bit, on 05/05/2008, -3/+15Ahem.
Dean already said they will be seating the delegates from Florida and Michigan. He said so on the Daily Show. He just wants to do so in a way that is fair for, Mi and FL, for the delegates, and for the 48 states that played by the rules.
I fully suspect that's why he's trying to call in the Supers early. That way he can seat them in the way that does as little change to their vote while still not actually having them make the difference.
Just relax. - Asrrin29, on 05/05/2008, -2/+14I'm also a Michigan resident, and I say ***** it. we made our bed, we lie in it. We knew going in that our vote wouldn't count, we can't just change the rules now.
Oh, and Uncommitted got 45-46% of the vote. - netant, on 05/05/2008, -4/+15This is not a NUCLEAR option. A Nuclear option would be to declare an independent candidacy.
If you read the Hillary "plan", that it include Howard Dean turning on Obama by using his influence to select delegates that would vote to seat Michigan and Florida, as is. No, girls and boys, this is a Hillary fantasy.
Or better, it is Hillary's Iranian Nuclear option. Its the nuclear option that does not exist. - smithchr, on 05/05/2008, -0/+11One hopes. Else myself and a large number of other "young, stupid, idealists" will find it unconscionable to vote for a "Democratic" candidate for a LONG time.
- fadeout, on 05/05/2008, -0/+10Wisconsin did vote and Obama kicked Hillary's ass.
If you're going to make a strawman argument at least get your facts straight. - scallon, on 05/05/2008, -0/+10Obama wasn't on the ballot in one and didn't campaign in either. The states broke the rules to try and seem more important. So honestly, no I don't care about those voters. The elections they took part in were a sham and their votes are meaningless.
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