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- bitfreak, on 05/08/2008, -15/+73I saw the video, and the way she said it. While I understand her right to privacy, she is going into an office that can invade my privacy at will, redefine the very meaning of 'privacy', has more or less total immunity to the common law, and can destroy entire countries at will. She's not applying at Walmart for God's sake, her and her husband are trying to into one of the most powerful offices on the planet. One more reason not to trust her or her husband. Maybe she could take all of that money and go buy some common sense.
- thirdcoastborn, on 05/08/2008, -17/+73John McCain demands accountability and transparency from everyone else but himself. It's complete BS. Cindy McCain needs to realize that her husband is running to be president. If they are so separate then why did he continuously use her corporate plane to make campaign stops illegaly.
- jstohler, on 05/08/2008, -11/+43What she should do instead is release her boobies from that bra. Am I right, fellas? Huh? I said: Am I right?
- swrostmore, on 05/08/2008, -6/+34Imagine the heat Hillary would have gotten if Bill had refused to release his tax returns this year. It would have been a bloodbath.
- The_Red_Monkey, on 05/08/2008, -4/+20I don't know why they release their tax returns anyway. What does that have to do with how they will run the country?
What we really need is real time updates of contributors to campaigns and to our Senators and Assembly people. - 5seconds, on 05/08/2008, -0/+15It's not about what the IRS has or hasn't missed. It's about accounting for where their money comes from and identifying potential conflicts of interest. For instance, it's not illegal to make money being an adviser to a pharmaceutical company, but that's the kind of thing that the voting public might be interested it.
- whataboutdave, on 05/08/2008, -7/+20Where in the constitution does it state that spouses of candidates must do anything like release their tax returns?
- TheSwashbuckler, on 05/08/2008, -3/+14She has a right to privacy, the government isn't forcing her to make her tax returns public.
Keeping her tax records private is her choice. Just as it may be a choice for a voter to not vote for her husband because of possible financial relationships that they don't want the public to know about. - patpl22391, on 05/08/2008, -6/+17How does releasing your tax returns = automatic accountability. That's the worst measure of accountability, ever.
- eir574, on 05/08/2008, -2/+12I suppose one reason s that releasing tax returns is supposed to score McCain political points. But, his wife's tax returns aren't about just her money; they're about shared finances. If McCain had done something questionable, he could just hide it on his wife's tax returns. They have every right to keep them private if they want, but disclosing only one tax return isn't exactly being transparent. He wants political points for his disclosure, but the disclosure isn't really complete without his wife's data.
- WasabiBomb, on 05/08/2008, -5/+15Where was Kerry's wife's "right to privacy" when you conservatives demanded that she release HER info?
It's funny how much conservatives whine when liberals insist that they play by the same rules. - peticsu, on 05/08/2008, -2/+12lets be fair guys, Teresa Heinz (Kerrys wife) didnt disclose her tax records either...
But I would like to see McCains medical records... - jaxcs, on 05/08/2008, -4/+14the spin begins
- StaticThunder, on 05/08/2008, -10/+20I wouldn't release them if I was running. All the public needs to know is that I've obeyed the law. I don't like McCain but this whole fishing for tax returns thing is just more political *****. I'm sure McCain has done everything he could to avoid paying taxes JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. What I care about is that he followed the law, and if the IRS hasn't caught him cheating, then thats good enough for me.
- Calcularius, on 05/08/2008, -2/+11Yes. I would release mine. I don't have anything to hide.
- StaticThunder, on 05/08/2008, -7/+16What do you really expect to find in her tax return that the IRS missed?
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -0/+9What tax return?
- Calcularius, on 05/08/2008, -6/+14He's not going to win, anyway.
- aznhomig, on 05/08/2008, -3/+11FYI, there's nothing in the law saying that a presidential candidate even has to release their tax returns to begin with. It's just good form and tradition at this point, but it's not like it's illegal.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 05/08/2008, -6/+14Nowhere of course.
However, voters can infer that someone who does not release their returns may have sources of income, and thus relationships, with people that they'd rather the voters didn't know about. - WasabiBomb, on 05/08/2008, -0/+8... which is why Hillary's claim of experience was bogus.
However, it would be very easy for John McCain to sanitize his income by hiding conceivably embarrassing items on Cindy's return. They didn't file jointly- so for all we know, he took massive bribes from the KKK and hid them in his wife's return. The only reason for them to file separately was to hide something, since he knew he'd be asked to show his income. - inactive, on 05/08/2008, -7/+14I guess we shouldn't worry, because McCain will never become president.
- Tex, on 07/28/2008, -3/+10If his children are also providing him corporate jets, sure, why not?
- Colecoman1982, on 05/08/2008, -0/+7The IRS doesn't check for conflicts of interest such as owning huge stocks in company X that then gets a no-bid contract a week after he wins the election.
- dmadzak, on 05/08/2008, -2/+8I wasn't aware that the "First Lady office" had the power to invade your privacy at will.
- PHiZ187, on 05/08/2008, -0/+6Dugg up for the link to Prof. Solove's excellent paper. However, these candidates put themselves into the public spotlight, and it is a pretty entrenched tradition that you release your financial and medical records.
- eir574, on 05/08/2008, -0/+6That's not the only reason to file separately, but it is a suspiciously good reason for revealing only his tax return's and not his wife's. I don't think either of them should have to reveal their tax returns if they don't want to, but McCain scores no political points for transparency by revealing only his returns.
- Tex, on 07/28/2008, -1/+7Michelle Obama's hotter, and with less plastic surgery.
- eir574, on 05/08/2008, -2/+8I agree in general, though certainly plenty of people get away with questionable accounting practices without being caught.
- DeucesWild, on 05/08/2008, -0/+5She looks pretty damn scary to me to be honest.
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -4/+9x 2
- WasabiBomb, on 05/08/2008, -3/+8It IS illegal, though, if someone else pays for his usage. And since Cindy McCain isn't going to show her tax return, we don't know whether some lobbyist paid for his travel experiences or not (which would, of course, be a backdoor bribe).
- Colecoman1982, on 05/08/2008, -1/+6Marriage is a union. As such, YES, it is reasonable to scrutinize the spouse of a politician as well as the candidate themselves. It is inherent in the relationship between husband and wife that he could easily hide bribes or unsavory business relationships (Halliburton, big oil, etc.) in his wife's finances and keep his own squeaky clean for PR reasons. Filing separate taxes is EXACTLY the way he'd do it.
For Christ's sake, he's a lifelong politician. We shouldn't be trusting him any further than we can throw him. For that same matter, we shouldn't be trusting any of the others either (Hillary, Obama, Al Franken). The rest of them have also taken heat, and rightfully so, when they played games with their tax info (Hillary with stall tactics and withholding the info from her husband's charity, Franken with just not paying them). - bjornski, on 05/08/2008, -0/+5Because of some of that $100 million is invested in defense contractors and the like, then maybe it would be worth looking into. Especially contractors that do things like get no-bid contracts.
You're right. Having the wife of a sitting President as a major investor wouldn't get you any influence at all. I think the scrutiny of her tax and income records is legitimate. - allengeer, on 05/08/2008, -0/+5Pretty sure thats not elitism... A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: ... if he cant pay his taxes im pretty sure thats not superior social, economic, or intellectual status.
- Troy64, on 05/08/2008, -1/+6Are specific investments even listed on the tax return? I know you have to report gains and losses, but I don't believe it is by specific stock. Even if you do that is only for stocks you sold.
- whataboutdave, on 05/08/2008, -22/+27There is nothing democratic about demanding documents of people who are not running for office. It's intimidation.
Filth like this would never come from the Obama campaign itself. Chill out people! - InspectorGadget, on 05/08/2008, -9/+14Guilty until proven innocent? Your thinking applied to the Fourth Amendment is exactly why we have the current warrantless wiretapping mess. The burden of proof is ALWAYS on the person claiming "X exists" or "X happened". Go march in lockstep in someone else's country.
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -3/+8Good for her. Too bad for her, Clinton/Obama will crush her sacrificial lamb husband.
- Calcularius, on 05/08/2008, -1/+6No, you're wrong. You made a mistake. She did release her tax records.
- MrDaBomb, on 05/08/2008, -2/+7The faulty premise here is that wanting privacy is about hiding a wrong. Check out Professor Daniel Solove's paper on the subject, "I’ve Got Nothing to Hide" and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id ...
There are plenty of other reasons to keep McCain out of the Whitehouse. Now, if we had reason to suspect Mrs. McCain of profiting from organized crime or some such, then its a big deal. But until we have that, her privacy should be held. - WasabiBomb, on 05/08/2008, -2/+6Well, the interesting thing is that McCain's tax returns shows that he only made $50k last year. We all know that's not the case- so that means that he's hiding some of his income in his wife's return. There's only one reason to do that- to hide something you don't want the public to find out about.
- p4r4d0x, on 05/08/2008, -2/+6"Do as I say, not as I do."
- exegesisClique, on 05/08/2008, -7/+11She's a *****!
...McCain said it, not me! - thirdcoastborn, on 05/08/2008, -4/+8it's not ***** when McCain demands accountability and transparency of everyone else but himself. Who the ***** does he think he is.
- peticsu, on 05/08/2008, -3/+7not when your 71 years old running for the presidency...
- Colecoman1982, on 05/08/2008, -1/+5Or, maybe he's a lifelong politician and makes sure to keep his taxes squeaky clean while putting anything dirty/controversial on his wife's financials. I guess we'll ever know. If I'm going to vote someone into a positions like the presidency, with all that power to abuse conflicts of interest (as Bush Co. has proven) or even nuke the planet if he chooses, I expect to know all potential conflicts of interest.
- allengeer, on 05/08/2008, -0/+4shes kind of botoxic.
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