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- CJWright, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"More URLs from cjwirght's AIPAC's playbook." That's right chrisjj - when you have no real arguments to facts make ad hominem attacks against the person responding. Oh and by the way, are we not supposed to notice that you digg up Klu Klux Klan sites to understand how truly humanitarian you are (unless it's joos!)
I am completely proud to discredit a young naive American who visited Gaza sponsored by a terrorist supporting group, ISM, that loves to use naive idiotarians to try to combat I wouldn't speak negatively about Nelson Mandela also for daring to non-violently resist his apartheid oppressors but that has NOTHING to do with what Rachel Corrie did.
Since it was founded the Palestinians have done nothing but terrorize Israel and Israel has tried to defend itself in the most humanitarian way possible. I think chrisjj is a brit who has been nurtured on BBC anti-Israel propaganda. You fool no one with your lies, and once again you demonstrate a weak moral compass (mine is quite good thank you) because anyone who states obvious lies like "Israel has indeed committed atrocities against humanity just as egregious as any in history" is either completely brainwashed, stupid or in denial about any facts of history. And GET A LIFE. You, like the anti-Israel websites paid for by billions in oil money, just recycle the same lies and garbage over and over again (Rachel Corrie, the US Liberty, Pollard, etc. etc.) because 1 - there is nothing negative to say and 2- any look at current events gives lie to the propaganda you try to spin. - foopirata, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5"How dare you impugn the good reputation of Rachel Corrie and the ISM."
Thanks!!!! That made my day. Damn I haven't laughed so hard in YEARS! That's so good. Do you have any about a parrot too? Do you know the one with Saddam's wife and the camel and the U.N.? No? Oh, too bad.
The ISM is a terrorist-enabling organization. Their members go to the territories to be photographed with terrorists while holding their rifles, and they are malevolent useful idiots, and just idiots at best.
Here's to her reputation, the useful idiot:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004796
A Tribute to Rachel Corrie
Thanks for showing us what "peace" really means.
BY RUHAMA SHATTAN
Tuesday, March 16, 2004 12:01 a.m. EST
(Editor's note: On March 16, 2003, 23-year-old Rachel Corrie died in a bulldozer accident in the Gaza town of Rafah.)
Today is the first anniversary of Rachel Corrie's death. I want to thank Corrie for the explosives that flow freely from Egypt to Gaza, via the smuggling tunnels under the Gaza homes that she died defending.
Perhaps it was these explosives that in the year since her martyrdom--oops, death--have been strapped around suicide bombers to blow up city buses and restaurants in Israeli cities, particularly in Jerusalem, killing men, women and schoolchildren (two of them classmates of my daughter and her friend in the February 22, 2004 bombing) and leaving hundreds more widows, orphans and bereaved parents.
On the first anniversary of her death, I want to thank Rachel Corrie for showing Palestinian children how to despise America as she snarled, burned an American flag, and led them in chanting slogans, and as she gave "evidence" at a Young Palestinian Parliament mock trial finding President Bush guilty of crimes against humanity.
Perhaps her help in fanning the flames of violent anti-American sentiment led to the October 2003 bombing of the Fulbright delegation to Gaza to interview scholarship candidates, killing three. There will be no new crop of Palestinian Fulbright scholars this fall.
On the first anniversary of her death, I wanted to thank Rachel Corrie for providing her organization, the Palestinian-sponsored International Solidarity Movement, with the opportunity to release a manipulated photo sequence "showing" an Israeli military bulldozer deliberately crushing her. (I would also like to thank the Associated Press and the Christian Science Monitor for taking up the baton and immortalizing this cynical ISM stunt.)
On the first anniversary of her death, I want to thank Rachel Corrie for showing the way to all those who seek peace in the Middle East. Unfortunately, Corrie's peace, as anyone familiar with the Palestine Liberation Organization, Fatah, Hamas and Hezbollah organizations that she defended with her life knows--or as anyone familiar with the weekly rants of the Friday preachers in the Palestinian mosques is aware--means not peaceful coexistence but the elimination of the state of Israel, and death to those they call "the usurping Jews, the sons of apes and pigs."
Thank you, Rachel Corrie, of Evergreen State University, where the profs wear khakis and kaffiyehs at graduation ceremonies, for showing us what peace really means.
"The ISM's policy is to exercise only non-violent protest against the Israeli occupation."
Yes, it is their other activities that are more abhorrent. Like enabling the smuggling of weapons that target innocent civilians that just "happen" to be Israeli, for example.
http://www.stoptheism.com/
"Would you have supported the killer of Martin Luther King i the 1960s because MLK practiced non-violent resistance?"
What's that to do with anything? Would you buy a used car from a monkey that plays a one-corded violin because he supports the green Mars movement? This makes as much sense as your question. Nice try at misdirection, puppet.
"I don't know what or who motivates you but your opinions make you look like you'd be very comfortable wearing jack boots and making 'Heil Hitler' salutes."
Funny. Godwin's Law appeared early this time!!! Wooohooohooo you just called the big bad israeli a nazi! Woooooohoooooo! Yupi-de-dupi-de-dah for you, you must be feeling so...so....so...progressive! Can you feel the progressive wetness in your knotted panties ? Can you? My...you're so...smart. Cosmopolitan. I am sure all the chicks and guys or whatever your preference may be just love your intellectual parlay. You must be the absolute life of the party! Can I be your friend? It's ok if you hate me, as long as you let me tell people you're my friend. Can I can I can I pleeeease?
Go check www.stoptheism.com, perhaps you'll finally learn something true about your heroes. - foopirata, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Comparing Mrs. Corrie with the Tianmen square man is the epitome of ignorance.
She was protecting weapons smugglers, she was enabling terrorists, she was doing the ISM bit. An organization that dully milked her death and keeps on doing it to this day.
Her autopsy showed that she was not crushed by a vehicle, but hit by falling debris.
In the words of the OregonLive.com newspaper:
“No matter how you turn the question, Rachel Corrie's death Sunday is a tragedy....But Corrie's death is no more tragic than the deaths of other young people — some of them young Americans who had traveled to Israel — who died in bombings committed by Palestinian terrorists. They're also worth remembering this day. However you feel about Corrie's actions, whether she was a martyr or misguided, she at least made her choice. Palestinian terrorists didn't give the young people killed in their bombings any choice in their deaths. That, it seems to us, is another kind of tragedy for these young Americans and their families.”
She was a terrorist enabler, collaborator, and she's committed a stupid suicide trying to impress her "friends". She was an useful idiot to the end.
http://watch.windsofchange.net/pics/corrie.jpg - foopirata, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3>Like the White South Africans in the Apartheid regime of the 1980s, you are obviously so thoroughly indoctrinated by
> your one-sided 'superior-than-thou' schooling that I think there is likely no hope that you will ever understand the true meaning
>of injustice and non-violent resistance.
Blah blah blah blah....tell me chrisjj, what have you done today to make better your community? How did you improve the life of others around you? Or do you only find empathy and caring for stuff on the other side of the world, stuff that you don't need to get off your ass and your computer to speak about?
I at least spent years of my life doing something for what I believe in. I was actually there, sweat and blood. I gave up on stuff to do what I believe in. What do you do, apart from post idiotic racist drivel at all times?
You know, the only person I am sure I am superior to is YOU. That's because you're less than human, you're a regurgitator of lies. This would be an ad-hominem attack, the only problem is that you do not fall in the "hominem" category.
>who have joined ISM to non-violently protest your country's illegal occupation of the Palestinian Territories,
Then I guess they're not in the real one, only in the make-believe one. Tell them to check www.stoptheism.org.
> try to understand what it's like to be on the receiving end of the world's fourth largest military
Sorry, too busy trying to identify with the people of Sderot and the north of Israel, who find themselves bombarded from the land returned to your pals the Pals.
Once the shooting from there stops, I'll consider giving them something else. Until that happens, all they get from me is lead. - irvman21, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6When you see a bulldozer coming at you, move out of the way. Even a liberal should be able to understand that.
- Zacktopia, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Most liberals are at least smart enough to get out of the way, but a radical blinded by her desire to see Muslims exterminate Jewish children can see and hear only her own hatred. That's how Rachel of Pancake forgot to dodge the dozer. Maybe the posthumous extra credit from Evergreen State was a consolation.
- foopirata, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5Oh, and righthand - I don't see you crying over the number of american youth killed in Israel by palestinian suicide bombers. Is it only because some of them were jewish?
- foopirata, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3"What are you talking about? ALL deaths bothers me. Christian, Jew, Muslim, you name it, As a godless person, another's religion as no influence on how I mourn their death."
so you say. but your actions show differently - where is your outrage for their deaths registered? I see you running to outcry the Palestinians - but never a word about their victims.
"Her value as a martyr for peace explains why you feel the need to slander her good name with such bilge."
Her value as a propaganda tool for Palestinians explains why I feel the need to show her real face with such enthusiasm.
"Despite your wrapping your self so tightly with the American flag, I very much doubt if you are a true loyal American."
I am not. I am an Israeli. I simply confess my admiration and identification with the American people. Unlike Mrs. Corrie, documented as shouting "Death To America" every friday at the usual place in Gaza.
"President Truman said ...I believe he was right at the heart of the problem. LOYALTY. Or it your case, DOUBLE LOYALTY. You cannot serve two masters. Which are army has your loyalty."
Only one. And I gave it years of my life. Proudly. About Truman,
"says Sara J. Bloomfield, director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. "Truman's sympathy for the plight of Jews was very apparent."
But Truman's comments were, Bloomfield says, "typical of a sort of cultural anti-Semitism that was common at that time in all parts of American society. This was an acceptable way to talk.""
"Your question infers that only some of the American youth killed in Israel were Jewish."
Indeed they were. Innocent youth studying at the Hebrew University, for example, to cite one of the most recent examples.
"Why would all or nearly of them not be Jewish?"
Arabs study at the Hebrew University. As do Chinese, Europeans, South-Americans...It's a very international setting.
"avoiding Iraq until the asswhipping the IDF received from the ragtag band of Hizbollah after the IDF's excursion into Southern Lebanon. Should mean more recruits for the overstretched American forces in Iraq. Don't worry, our EU UNifil forces will guard your borders as usual until you get back. Mainly to stop you murdering innocent women and children."
You had a good going until you spewed this one. Man, are you a nutcase or what. Going to the IDF to avoid Iraq? That's like jumping without a parachute to avoid falling with the plane. You couldn't be more wrong. As for UNIFIL and the "ass whipping"....heh. Yeah, you're right. In your dreams.
"I have tried to do your silly question justice. I'm happy with my answer. "
Oh, I believe you are. Self-satisfaction drips from your words.
"Don't forget USS Liberty this week."
I don't. Those unfortunate sailors deserve all respect. Being a victim of the fog-of-war is terrible. - CJWright, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4chrisjj - ANOTHER Rachel Corrie posting?
@righthand AND @chrisjj? All the fact-free bleeding hearts together - what a treat! Why not mourn for Saddam Hussein, too while we're at it, right?
(Try reading just one or two of these - I dare you. It might be good for you to get out of the echo-chamber of propaganda you guys are buried in.)
And as for (violins playing) Rachel Corrie duped naive American girl brainwashed and used by violent pro-terrorist groups to defend terrorism here is far more insightful reading on her:
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=31&x_article=660
http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=16540
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12919
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=11207&only
http://backspin.typepad.com/backspin/2005/10/dead_jews_arent.html#more
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6966
And on her parents!
http://onlyinisrael.blogspot.com/2006/01/corries-parents-and-ism-time-machine.html - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4@foopirata 5/26/07
"Oh, and righthand - I don't see you crying over the number of american youth killed in Israel by palestinian suicide bombers. Is it only because some of them were jewish?"
I should ask you to clarify your question, but I'm nearly sure you yourself, is not at all clear on what it is that you wish me to clarify for you. I'm keeping it very very simple for you so you will, I hope, understand me. Ok?
What are you talking about? ALL deaths bothers me. Christian, Jew, Muslim, you name it, As a godless person, another's religion as no influence on how I mourn their death. Only a RACIST or SECTARIAN BIGOT could think differently. Which boxes do you tick?
Unfortunately, some lives are worth more than others. Rachel Corrie's life was worth 1,000 Palestinian lives. The manner of her death has added hugely to her value. Yet, Palestinians die daily in similar fashion, and the world doesn't notice. Her value as a martyr for peace explains why you feel the need to slander her good name with such bilge. Despite your wrapping your self so tightly with the American flag, I very much doubt if you are a true loyal American.
How could you write such dribble against the good name of one American who certainly died for peace. Shame, shame, shame even if you are not American, or certainly a very disloyal one.
President Truman said ..."The Jews have no sense of proportion, nor do they have any judgment on world affairs ... The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish." and he said it best with ..."You cannot satisfy the Jews anyway ... They are not interested in the United States. They are interested in Palestine and the Jews ... The Jews aren't going to write the history of the United States—or my history!" [Do you need sources?] I believe he was right at the heart of the problem. LOYALTY. Or it your case, DOUBLE LOYALTY. You cannot serve two masters. Which are army has your loyalty.
I return again to your very badly phrased question with only Israel getting a capital. "I don't see you crying over the number of american youth killed in Israel by palestinian suicide bombers. Is it only because some of them were jewish?" Your question infers that only some of the American youth killed in Israel were Jewish. That is the only way that I can make any sense of your use of english. Why would all or nearly of them not be Jewish? Why else would they be in a virtual war zone? I feel there must be more intended in your question but I cannot see it. I presume the American Jews were there to serve in the Israeli Defence? Force (IDF)? Back to the double loyalty problem again. How long is it that you have to serve. It certainly was a cushy way of avoiding Iraq until the asswhipping the IDF received from the ragtag band of Hizbollah after the IDF's excursion into Southern Lebanon. Should mean more recruits for the overstretched American forces in Iraq. Don't worry, our EU UNifil forces will guard your borders as usual until you get back. Mainly to stop you murdering innocent women and children.
I have tried to do your silly question justice. I'm happy with my answer. Trust that you are not. Happy hunting. Don't forget USS Liberty this week. Another loyalty issue. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Are you agreeing that the bulldozer ran over her? Was it deliberate? Do they have blind dozer drivers? Is Gentile life not as precious as a Jewish life?
Do you remember the Chinese male standing in front of the line of tanks in Tienanmen Square. That is how I imagine her. The number of Americans that would spit on her grave is astounding to me. Sick.
Is it lost on them that driver of the Chinese tank or crew endeavoured repeatedly to do around the human obstruction. That driver might have faced severe punishment for not achieving his goal, and in a very public fashion. And yet he did not kill or maim.
So, how little value does a American girl have in the State of Israel? Normal norms do not seem to apply there. Instead of some half hearted excuses for the pointless death, she is portrayed as some type of suicide terrorist. I suppose with responsibility for so many innocents, one more, even an American, doesn't rate. When you see the reaction of the other double loyalty commentators in America, then it is hard to get a different result. A friend of mine, refers to the IDF as little gun with big guns! Is she correct? Compensation for their inadequacies, is how she sees it! - chrisjj, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3More URLs from cjwirght's AIPAC's playbook. He is discrediting a young fellow American citizen-hero who visited Gaza, saw what was happening, saw that her government was doing nothing to stop it, and did something about it. (I'm assuming that you would have spoken out against Nelson Mandela also for daring to non-violently resist his apartheid oppressors?)
Since it was founded Israel has demolished over 10 thousand Palestinian homes inside of Palestinian territory and Corrie was trying to stop this flagrant violation of the 4th Geneva Convention regarding the conduct of occupying forces. Once again cjwright demonstrates that he has no moral compass because he will not recognize that his beloved country Israel has indeed committed atrocities against humanity just as egregious as any in history. - chrisjj, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3You would have said the same about the protests of Ghandi's, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, and the anonymous Chinese who stood in front of the tank at Tienneman square. . The world is full of ordinary people like you who would 'move out of the way' in the face of evil but thankfully humankind has produced a few heroes who will not budge in the face of injustice. Rachel and her fellow protesters were highly visible but the Israeli death machine just didn't stop - subsequent video footage revealed an Israeli soldier smiling from the driver's cab immediately after he had run over Rachel. I suggest you read Rachel's writings at http://rachelcorrie.org/emails.htm to better understand what motivated this young lady to give her life for peace and justice.
- chrisjj, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3@foopirata
How dare you impugn the good reputation of Rachel Corrie and the ISM. The ISM's policy is to exercise only non-violent protest against the Israeli occupation. Would you have supported the killer of Martin Luther King i the 1960s because MLK practiced non-violent resistance? I don't know what or who motivates you but your opinions make you look like you'd be very comfortable wearing jack boots and making 'Heil Hitler' salutes. - chrisjj, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3@foopirata
Like the White South Africans in the Apartheid regime of the 1980s, you are obviously so thoroughly indoctrinated by your one-sided 'superior-than-thou' schooling that I think there is likely no hope that you will ever understand the true meaning of injustice and non-violent resistance. Your offensive comments epitomize all that is bad about Israeli society. I have personally met many highly respected individuals (of all faiths, including Jewish) who have joined ISM to non-violently protest your country's illegal occupation of the Palestinian Territories, protest the house demolitions, the uprooting of Palestinian Olive Trees and to protest the Apartheid Wall that encircles Palestinian towns within Palestinian territories. You should stand back and take a look at your actions and those of your fellow countrymen -and try to put yourself in the shoes of your so-called enemies and try to understand what it's like to be on the receiving end of the world's fourth largest military that is basically out of control (as was demonstrated lats Summer in Lebanon).


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