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Chinese Troops Surround 3 Monasteries in Tibet
nytimes.com — Chinese security forces were reportedly surrounding three monasteries outside Lhasa, the Tibetan capital, on Thursday after hundreds of monks took to the streets this week in what are believed to be the largest Tibetan protests against Chinese rule in two decades.
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- Itisus, on 03/14/2008, -13/+108Boycott the Beijing Olympics. Tell the MSN that you will not watch the games on TV. Tell sponsors of the games that you will not buy their products. Take responsibility for the world you live in. If you do not act the world will never change. It is you, it is us.
Free Tibet- talonstriker, on 03/14/2008, -28/+7The Olympics are a showcase for the world's best athletes, not a stage for political dissension. Its an opportunity to put aside differences and celebrate sports together. The last thing the Olympics needs is politics hovering over it.
As an individual, you're more than welcome to boycott it, but for US to use it as a stage (not that you're suggesting it) for their policies would be utterly despicable.- caferrell, on 03/14/2008, -3/+12The Olympics aren´t even sports. They are a show organized for international television. Why should we pay (by watching advertising) the MSM to broadcast a show put on by the Chinese who are intent on the anhilation of Tibetan culture and language?
Itisus is right- avengingturnip, on 03/14/2008, -2/+9Exactly right. The Olympics are a huge media event which involves lots and lots of money. They no longer have hardly anything at all to do with athletics, except as a marketing hook.
- AmyWhere, on 03/14/2008, -2/+7Try telling that to the athletes who have been training for years.
- vault, on 03/14/2008, -6/+1Yup, the Olympics are an inside job. What isn't these days?
- jc801, on 03/14/2008, -11/+2since when was China intent on the annihilation of tibet?? You really don't know *****, why are Americans so ignorant when it comes to these Asian matters?
- caferrell, on 03/15/2008, -0/+5Say what??!! China has done everything short of genocide to put an end to Tibetan culture, language and religion. Ask the Dalai Lama what China has done with Tibet. I suggest that you read or travel or both.
- yiyaxueyu012, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0Sometimes people are simply disoriented by local media and everyone around them. It's easy to just give a blind belief in what others and the media says about certain things.
If somebody says there's a genocide of the Tibetan culture, show me the evidence please, not just follow what the media says. From what I saw, the Tibetan people almost always communicate with each other in Tibetan language; and the monks are getting paid by the state to do what they used to do hundred years ago.
And "Ask the Dalai Lama what China has done with Tibet." ? As an analogy, you wouldn't wanna ask George W.Bush about what Iraqies had done with "the weapons of massive destruction", would you? Actually, since I watched the Dalai Lama talking about the issue once, my feeling is that, this guy knows how to phrase to cater to the western media and audience bcoz he got a Belgium friend teaching him the culture and everything from a western point of view, for years. And of course they became good friends in a personal level. All these experience of him enabled him well informed of the western customs and context. Just an example, what is you guys' immediate reaction when you hear the term 'genocide' ? Cruel African tribe wars? Then you feel ' ah! that is sick'. In this way, this smart Dalai Lama makes you somehow emotionally attached to his context and thus, immediately you feel the chinese gov is sick and you don even bother to know more about the actual fact.
It's nobody's fault, it's political propoganda. Humans are easily affected as this.
- artliquide, on 03/14/2008, -0/+5Isn't part of the point of holding the Olympics to promote some kind of world cooperation, since we can't get along otherwise? If we don't boycott the olympics, then not only do we defeat the purpose of having at least one event where we can all get along, but we'd also be giving a clear message to Tibet that they're just not important enough for us to care about their survival. However, if we do show China that we're against the oppression they've been acting out on Tibet, and other smaller areas they may not feel intimidated, but they also might not win another Olympic bid until they stop. Boycotting would send a message to the Olympic committee that they need to take better care of not allowing oppressive nations to host the Olympics. After all, once China has killed off Tibet, who will they go after next? And after that? Might be us someday (unless we can actually manage to rebuild our country and military)
- apc3161, on 03/14/2008, -5/+4I agree with Talon. What's going on over there is despicable. But the Olympics should not be politicized. It's a time for countries to put aside differences and engage each other through competition. Look at the history of the Olympics. Greek City states who literally wanted to kill each other use to come together and compete.
Should people as individual try and persuade China to take a better stance on the Tibetan issue. Of course. But we should do that as individuals, we shouldn't use our own government to do that, because our governments are meant to preserve those freedoms here, not in other countries. Likewise, the olympics shouldn't associated with politics, its a sporting event.
I agree with you, this is all very terrible, and we should do something about it. I just don't advocate asking our government to do something about it or using the olympics as a tool.- artliquide, on 03/14/2008, -1/+2Olympics has nothing to do with individual governments. As such, the olympic committee has the power to say no when countries that are notorious human rights violators want to host the Olympics. Yeah, it's a sporting event, but I disagree that that's all it is.
- Itisus, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1I am asking YOU not 'our' government, to boycott. You are naive if you think your government preserves your freedoms. It is you who must oppose violence and oppression in the world using any nonviolent tool at your disposal. No government will do this for you. No religion will do this.
It is you, it is us, who must stand together and demand freedom, justice and peace everywhere.
The carnage will continue until the people say no more. All we have to do is reach out to our brothers and sisters and stand up together. We are responsible to each other. It is us.
- caferrell, on 03/14/2008, -3/+12The Olympics aren´t even sports. They are a show organized for international television. Why should we pay (by watching advertising) the MSM to broadcast a show put on by the Chinese who are intent on the anhilation of Tibetan culture and language?
- ElAssoWipo, on 03/14/2008, -6/+37"The Olympics are a showcase for the world's best athletes, not a stage for political dissension"
Wrong.
"According to the Olympic Charter, established by Pierre de Coubertin, the goal of the Olympic Movement is to contribute to building a peaceful and better world by educating youth through sport practised without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play."
http://www.olympic.org/uk/organisation/index_uk.as ...
I'd make a list of all the crimes against humanity perpetrated by China every single day but then I'd have to look for about 40 links to back it up and I just plain don't feel like it.
China should be boycotted on everything, not just the Olympics.- brheath, on 03/14/2008, -3/+8Please, if people successfully boycotted the Olympics based on "crimes against humanity" perpetrated by the host nation, then there would be NO Olympics...
- avengingturnip, on 03/14/2008, -0/+4Good. We could use the break.
- artliquide, on 03/14/2008, -1/+4Sure there would, but it would be hosted in just a handful of countries all of the time.
- poidh, on 03/14/2008, -6/+3But, but, but, China shows that communism works.
- ElAssoWipo, on 03/14/2008, -1/+8The 80's are over. Download appropriate updates.
- brheath, on 03/14/2008, -3/+8Please, if people successfully boycotted the Olympics based on "crimes against humanity" perpetrated by the host nation, then there would be NO Olympics...
- cageybee, on 03/14/2008, -18/+4shut the ***** up, bush.
- vault, on 03/14/2008, -1/+6What does this have to do with Bush? I didn't realize George Bush planned to boycott the Beijing Olympics.
- cageybee, on 03/14/2008, -12/+2he sounded just like him.
- Buddhaismybuddy, on 03/14/2008, -1/+4lol, no he didn't.
- cageybee, on 03/14/2008, -12/+2he sounded just like him.
- vault, on 03/14/2008, -1/+6What does this have to do with Bush? I didn't realize George Bush planned to boycott the Beijing Olympics.
- Buddhaismybuddy, on 03/14/2008, -12/+3What would boycotting the Olympics do? HELLO! China pretty much owns the US right now. If you wan't to make a difference try boycotting Chinese made products, you'll find it is nearly impossible without making many sacrifices.
- lajaw, on 03/14/2008, -15/+7Those Tibetan monks are nothing but terrorists. China needs to get rid of them. Go China!
- webefools, on 03/14/2008, -3/+2whatthe? you come into my house take possession of my home, kill off my brothers and sisters dump them into the sewer flush them down in bits and pieces, and now you calling me the terrorist? go china?
- lajaw, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2sarcasm anyone?
- an0nym0uz, on 03/14/2008, -9/+9Aren't Buddhists monks supposed to be pacifists? WHY are they rioting? And before we start targeting China maybe everyone should focus on Iraq first, since MUCH more people are dying there
- zadkiel86, on 03/14/2008, -3/+13They aren't rioting, they're protesting. There's a difference; maybe if you took your head out of your ass once in awhile you'd realize that.
And as for why, maybe you should pick up a book sometime instead of sitting on that ass of yours and looking stupid. Tibet has been oppressed by China for decades; this isn't anything new, it's just something else most people are blissfully unaware of. I mean they excommunicated the Dalai Lama ffs.- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -3/+1they are rioting, that's why people are getting shot. ***** prick, take my head out my ass? how about you take your head out of Bush's ass and realize that OUR OWN government is oppressing the ***** out of the Middle East? stupid *****, what do you know about Tibet besides the movies you've seen? and people are WELL aware of the situation as the media front pages anything negative they can about China. what the ***** do you know? you are probably a ***** teenage kid from the boondocks that gets all his news from ***** FOX News, go suck a nut.
You wanna act like your some kind zealous righteous defender of freedom or something? go ***** free iraq from us, go give california back to mexico, go give the rest of america back to the native americans. *****.- zadkiel86, on 04/01/2008, -0/+0If you're such a zealot for freedom (as you seemed to have labeled me), then why the ***** aren't YOU out there trying to bring our troops back from Iraq, or helping the oppressed minorities in Burma, the disenfranchised people of Palestine, etc. etc. etc.
I'll put it like this (so that your infinitesimally small mind can wrap itself around it): the people are protesting because they have been stripped of their leader, their culture, and their land. If that were to happen to you, you stupid *****, you would be pissed too.
Oh, and by the way, I'm a college graduate from Minnesota and am a proud Democrat. I do not agree with the policies of the Bush administration, nor do I advocate the war in Iraq. I don't know HOW you managed to glean all that information bout me that you seem to have gotten (including the TV channels I must watch??), but I'll let it go seeing as that you're probably some ***** hick that doesn't understand anything that he's saying.
Don't worry man, it'll all make more sense when you learn how to use your brain. =)
- zadkiel86, on 04/01/2008, -0/+0If you're such a zealot for freedom (as you seemed to have labeled me), then why the ***** aren't YOU out there trying to bring our troops back from Iraq, or helping the oppressed minorities in Burma, the disenfranchised people of Palestine, etc. etc. etc.
- azneggrollz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+0Where do you live? China?
- jc801, on 03/15/2008, -1/+1i live in new york ***** city ***** born and raised, the only difference is that since I am not an ignorant ***** i realize the fact that all this negative press is just China being the scapegoat for all the worlds problems similar to how the nazis blamed the jews during world war ii and how the soviet union the was worlds enemy during the cold war and stupid ***** idiots easily distracted and manipulated morons don't
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -3/+1they are rioting, that's why people are getting shot. ***** prick, take my head out my ass? how about you take your head out of Bush's ass and realize that OUR OWN government is oppressing the ***** out of the Middle East? stupid *****, what do you know about Tibet besides the movies you've seen? and people are WELL aware of the situation as the media front pages anything negative they can about China. what the ***** do you know? you are probably a ***** teenage kid from the boondocks that gets all his news from ***** FOX News, go suck a nut.
- artliquide, on 03/14/2008, -1/+8The article does not talk about rioting, only protesting. Though I guess the Chinese government would probably like to paint Tibetan Buddhist monks as violent to further their cause, I don't see any mention of violence in the article. Also, in your eyes, does protesting go against the idea of being a pacifist? When people's lives and ways of life are threatened, conscientious people object through protests, etc. That's an important aspect of pacifism in an oppressive nation, and has nothing to do with violence.
- Itisus, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1Great idea! What are you doing about it?
- zadkiel86, on 03/14/2008, -3/+13They aren't rioting, they're protesting. There's a difference; maybe if you took your head out of your ass once in awhile you'd realize that.
- TriTech, on 03/15/2008, -1/+3How about taking that a step further and stop buying Chinese products. Really put your money where your mouth is. Of course, you'll be saving a ton of money because most of what you buy is made in China. Don't just single out the Olympics.
- Mikhail101, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1thank you its not just tibet its there poor human and animal rights i mean there killing cats jsut for the olympics i mean come on.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/16/2008, -1/+1Take responsibility for the world we live in? you are a real ***** cheeseball. You know maybe we should start with IRAQ. or how about Saudi Arabia where women have NO RIGHTS at all? oh but its ok there because saudi arabia is our bitch and does anything and everything america wants so what do we care about the situation there, but China, no the fact that China and its government actually tries to control itself and its people instead of being a puppet for the US, now there's the problem, lets put everything that happens with China under a ***** microscope and totally ignore all the other MUCH WORSE atrocities going on in the world and use them as our scapegoat of all things bad in the world. Because you know, thats the ignorant Western mentality that everyone loves right?
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0ok? really boycotted on everything? maybe its better we start with the US first
- talonstriker, on 03/14/2008, -28/+7The Olympics are a showcase for the world's best athletes, not a stage for political dissension. Its an opportunity to put aside differences and celebrate sports together. The last thing the Olympics needs is politics hovering over it.
- pokemogu, on 03/14/2008, -3/+40And those monks are called "terrorists" by Han Chinese Government.
- psyops2000, on 03/14/2008, -8/+5It's the communist government if you want to be more exact.
- robbinzo, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1Communists funded by Wall Stret to be entirely accurate
- Emnsta, on 03/14/2008, -1/+4Do you know what Han is?
It's called PROC, Communist Chinese Government.- megaloid, on 03/14/2008, -0/+5I think he chose to use that word the emphasize the distinctly different ethnicity of the Communist Chinese government as compared to certain regions their control.
- megaloid, on 03/14/2008, -0/+5But if we are going to be thorough about it, we should note that they're not really a communist government anymore. They could more accurately be described as fascist, which is no small feat if you think about it, transitioning seamlessly from communism to fascism.
- megaloid, on 03/14/2008, -0/+5I think he chose to use that word the emphasize the distinctly different ethnicity of the Communist Chinese government as compared to certain regions their control.
- ElAssoWipo, on 03/14/2008, -3/+8They blamed the deaths of protestors (who were shot by the chinese) on the Dalai Lama.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSSP10739 ... - swrostmore, on 03/14/2008, -1/+9You idiots are missing the point, Han Chinese is an ethnicity. The whole situation in Tibet is ethnically motivated.
- zzbao, on 03/14/2008, -11/+1Thesse monks are true terrorist. They just use religion to promote hate among ethnic groups. They are no different to Taliban.
- webefools, on 03/14/2008, -1/+5what?!? are you trying to be funny?
- funkyjunk3, on 03/14/2008, -1/+5No, he's simply spewing Chinese Propaganda: http://digg.com/users/zzbao
- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -0/+0Quoted from Guardian. Now you see who is actually promote violence:
The Guardian, Saturday March 15 2008
This is an eyewitness account of a foreign resident in Lhasa who took refuge in a hotel close to the centre of the Tibetan capital yesterday. The city was gripped by violence after protesters and police clashed
"Oh my God. Oh no. That's crazy. One hundred people are trying to stone one man. A man was trying to cross the street with his motorcycle - they were trying to stone him but it's so crowded I can't see whether they got him or not.
"We came out for a walk about at about five today. I knew something was happening because there were a lot of people on the street. We were on Sera Street, which goes to the [Klukang] monastery. It sounds like the noise came from there; it sounds like at first they had been fighting in the temple.
"We saw people running and people in this hotel told us to get in quickly as the crowd was coming. They seem OK here, maybe the owner is Tibetan. All the other hotels have smashed windows.
"The residents are very angry. They are throwing stones at anyone who is Han [Chinese] or from other minorities like the Hui, who are Muslims. It seems like it's ethnic - like they want to kill anyone not Tibetan.
"I would say it's a riot here but I think in the centre it's worse. There's a lot of smoke - we can see it where there have been burnings. I heard people saying the authorities were firing, using guns. We don't know.
Here we have seen people trying to stone anyone they can - Han and other minorities, not foreigners. The Tibetans had stones and knives. I saw Chinese people running away - there was nothing they could do.
"We don't see any police around here. Maybe they're all in the centre and are too busy. It's very violent.
"Oh my God. Someone has a gun in front of me. There's a group of about 20 people - two of them have handguns. They are walking the street.They're shooting. They didn't have uniforms, but the way they were in a group I thought maybe they were police. They went down the street and the first one fired, that's for sure - I think the others did; there was so much noise I can't be sure. Then some of the citizens threw stones, but not at them - in the other direction. So I don't know if they were police or maybe Tibetans.
"I have just been out to get my things. We are staying at the hotel tonight. There are still people on the streets but only Tibetans - if they see anyone
Chinese they throw stones.
"Three times people raised their arms and then when they saw I was white they stopped it. The thing that surprised me most was that I saw no police or soldiers.
"I saw three people assaulting a man - I was 50 metres away, but I think he was Chinese. They kicked him and then one man had a knife and used it. He was lying on the floor and the man put the knife in his back, like he wanted to see he was dead.
"I had to get away, there were people throwing stones.
"When I came back he was gone - I don't know if he's dead. Then I saw people who had obviously been beaten or stoned. There wasn't blood on them but they were so shocked.
"This area used to be a place where Tibetans and the Chinese were friendly.
"I think this is going to get worse. One person told me 300 people have died in the city centre [the Guardian has no information to substantiate this claim]. I just don't know."
guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2008- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -0/+0Of all the account that people being beaten are either Han or Hui Chinese. Didn't DaLai claim he is the source of all peacefulness? Peace to him is just a word, what they practice is true violence.
- webefools, on 03/14/2008, -1/+5what?!? are you trying to be funny?
- ZiggityZhang, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3And the regular folks who are sick of foreign occupation in the Middle East are called "insurgents." What's your point?
- NighthawkBlack, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1Kind of like how the FBI is telling cops that Americans who make frequent references to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are 'terrorists', eh? Guess peaceful people are instilling 'terror' in tyrannical governments nowadays...
- psyops2000, on 03/14/2008, -8/+5It's the communist government if you want to be more exact.
- ToMZiLLA, on 03/14/2008, -16/+3TERRORISTS?! KILL THEM!
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0Agree!! and free all Iraqi prisoners and all from guantanamo, they are being threated worse than animals. ***** US, boycott US
- mit7, on 03/14/2008, -4/+13Non-violence is the biggest threat to peace through war.
- swrostmore, on 03/14/2008, -5/+31The Tibetans are rioting, will we ever know how many protesters are being slaughtered by the Chinese?
http://digg.com/politics/Shops_cars_torched_in_Tib ...- Jambi, on 03/14/2008, -3/+7No.
- theAlice, on 03/15/2008, -0/+7Not all Tibetans are Monks.
- swrostmore, on 03/15/2008, -2/+1Are you suggesting that only monks are rioting? Did you read the article?
- jc801, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3nobody is being "slaughtered". moron
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0I think even if thats the case, then that might be 0.000000000000000001% of the people the US/european army killed, both children and women, but that is totally all right, US ftw. I really think you western people should go and check you brains and see how much they have been damaged by the propaganda of your governments.
- MewTwo, on 03/14/2008, -4/+35Wow, good PR before the Olympics, China...
- kingofinternet, on 03/14/2008, -19/+0meesa people gonna die?
- Etchii, on 03/14/2008, -4/+3A Jar Jar joke? Honestly....
- nycmac247, on 03/14/2008, -2/+1-
- suzywang3000, on 03/14/2008, -22/+0Tibetan monk very disrespectful and very disobedient. And that's the French for you!
- crazydiode, on 03/14/2008, -3/+16***** OFF!! China has NO ***** right to take over Tibet. Tibet had always been a separate state until ***** Chinese took over in 1950 and are raping it off. FREE TIBET!!!!!
- cageybee, on 03/14/2008, -8/+2arrogant, ignorant, disrespectful and annoying back seat driver.
- Hangly, on 03/14/2008, -2/+5"Tibet had always been a separate state."
You damage your argument when you say ignorant things.- crazydiode, on 03/15/2008, -1/+1http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHisto ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tibet#Foun ...
Tibet was a part of china for a period of max 50-100 years in its 1100+ years history. From 1720-1911, china let Tibet be under it'sown govt. So who's ignorant of history? - jc801, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1China has no right to take over? just like we have no right to be in Iraq? you stupid ***** bastard go get hit bya truck please, people like you is how people like bush get elected
- crazydiode, on 03/15/2008, -1/+1http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHisto ...
- matu4251, on 03/14/2008, -4/+2Tibet has been part of china for centuries... just that it was pretty loose during the first half of the century so local officials where taking care of business. Things changed when the communists took over.
- jc801, on 03/15/2008, -1/+1how is China raping it? you ***** idiot go kill yourself. Free Tibet, can you even say why Tibet wants independence? NO, you ***** moron.
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0ok? maybe you ***** should take a look at the list of the American colonies? You dont experience anything today, because you ***** killed them all.
- crazydiode, on 03/14/2008, -3/+16***** OFF!! China has NO ***** right to take over Tibet. Tibet had always been a separate state until ***** Chinese took over in 1950 and are raping it off. FREE TIBET!!!!!
- Chaoticfist, on 03/14/2008, -8/+37I have no intention to watch the Chinese Olympics. Them having the Olympics is as bad the Germans having it in the 30s and the Russians under there former Soviet Union. All giving them the Olympics does is give legitimacy to the occupation of Tibet, human rights violations in China as well as other occupied regions. Boycott the Olympics. (btw dnt use the USA comparison plz. i am from Canada, so trying to make me look like a hypocrite by pointing at the USA does nothing)
- webefools, on 03/14/2008, -3/+4
This is great idea! Boycotting!
Boycott the Olympics! Boycott the products! Boycott everything PRC! - YourPal, on 03/15/2008, -1/+4Dear fellow Canadian, please find me a country that does everything perfect and has no blemish to host the Olympic games.
China (2008) - Human Rights violations
Italy (2006) - Illegal invasion of Iraq (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 11/06)
Greece (2004) - Purging Cats and Dogs with poison to "clean up" city
USA (2002) - Multiple infractions depending on your point of view.
Australia (2000) - Mistreatment of Aboriginals
Japan (1998) - Unsettled war crime apologies.
etc... - robthom, on 03/15/2008, -3/+2Why dont you host them in Canada then mr.perfect.
- jc801, on 03/15/2008, -3/+1yeah you ***** douche bag moron canadian, that's why you are america's bitch. america owns canada.
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0***** morons, i ***** hope you guys really can boycott China, actually you can through everything you own out of the window right now, because they are probably made in china, ***** morons. Your countries are so great and so right, USA used A-bomb on japan, US army killed tons of innocent people, US invaded Iraq because of oil and tortured people worse than animal, so don't even try to teach us what is right or wrong. ***** monkeys
- webefools, on 03/14/2008, -3/+4
- cageybee, on 03/14/2008, -28/+6all you ***** advocates of american democracy are annoying just like back seat drivers. only in Nazism regime people are anti-communists. the worst is that none of you here know ***** about communists except Nazi propaganda that you've been eating since you were born that communists are evil totalitarians. come on, if 2 ***** billion people of China wanted communists out of there, they would get them out of there. westerners are so arrogant, ignorant, and disrespectful who think of themselves as a master race and of its lifestyle as the only lifestyle on earth. grow the ***** up. have some respect. there is a do not disturb sign on the door - didn't you see it?? oh, you don't respect anyone's privacy. you just want to stick your nose everywhere even if no one wants to hear or see you. oh, and by the way, no one in america is free. 99% of americans are slaves.
- vault, on 03/14/2008, -4/+4You think Communism is a good thing that needs to be preserved in China?
Seems like you guys aren't getting your way:
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=chl
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=ptr&hl=en
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3AYZC
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=lfc&hl=en- Kaiyu, on 03/14/2008, -1/+3This is because of the weakening of the dollar you dumb *****
don't insert random ticker symbols if you don't know anything about finance / economy
btw, this has nothing to do with "communism"- vault, on 03/14/2008, -1/+3Way to completely miss the point. I was showing him that China is anything but Communist with gigantic public companies like that traded on American exchanges.
- cageybee, on 03/15/2008, -3/+2because they have to make adjustments because of USA. Russia made adjustments too.
- Kaiyu, on 03/17/2008, -0/+0my apologies then vault
- vault, on 03/14/2008, -1/+3Way to completely miss the point. I was showing him that China is anything but Communist with gigantic public companies like that traded on American exchanges.
- Kaiyu, on 03/14/2008, -1/+3This is because of the weakening of the dollar you dumb *****
- Buddhaismybuddy, on 03/14/2008, -2/+12So you don't think there is anything wrong with the slaughter of innocent people and the destruction of a non-violent nation?
- swrostmore, on 03/14/2008, -5/+9China being Communist has nothing to do with why they are ethnically cleansing Tibet.
- erkokite, on 03/14/2008, -1/+10Communist or not, China has a terrible human rights record. Communism isn't the problem nearly so much as authoritarianism is.
Oh and by the way, at least we can post dissident views online without being thrown into jail.- cageybee, on 03/15/2008, -4/+2totalitarianism comes because some chinese citizens start thinking, talking, and persuading others that separatism is good, and that china should become like the west. those people are idiots. if it wasn't for them, then there would be no reason for totalitarianism in communism.
the majority of people in communist states have a very high self respect. if this majority would not be happy with the communists - those communists would be gone in a split second.- AussieFox, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3You mean like Tibet?
You know, the place that doesn't want anything to do with China? The place that China wants to take control of? - erkokite, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3Huh. That's funny. We allow people to talk about separatism and pretty much everything else in the West. Even communism. We also hold elections. Apparently, China jails people who would like to have an elected government.
- ratnacage, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1Chinowned :P
- AussieFox, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3You mean like Tibet?
- cageybee, on 03/15/2008, -4/+2totalitarianism comes because some chinese citizens start thinking, talking, and persuading others that separatism is good, and that china should become like the west. those people are idiots. if it wasn't for them, then there would be no reason for totalitarianism in communism.
- vault, on 03/14/2008, -4/+4You think Communism is a good thing that needs to be preserved in China?
- swordedge, on 03/14/2008, -10/+4Having a religion in China is not legal.
- Berkana, on 03/14/2008, -0/+13No, in China, the Shaolin monastery is still run by Buddhist monks, and they still teach Buddhist doctrine. In China, if the government doesn't like YOUR religion, it becomes illegal.
- zzbao, on 03/14/2008, -11/+1This is a lie. Or you've never being to China. The Chinese government's control of its media and people is at its weakest. There are millions of Christians in China and My pastor regularly goes to China to promote fellowship every summer. I don't see religion is being illegal at all. There are even religious university offer diploma for years in China. I think China is at its best time to practice religion in years. Proof? Many monks are super rich! Even the ones in Tibet. In the city of Chengdu, the Tibetans are the richest people around.
- Hangly, on 03/14/2008, -0/+11I'm in China. He is telling the truth and you are full of it.
- Berkana, on 03/15/2008, -1/+4What you said doesn't show that I'm wrong. The religions in practice in China are tolerated by the government, but as soon as the government decides it doesn't like a religion (like Falun Gong) it cracks down on them and makes it illegal. The same goes for Catholics who support the Pope rather than the state sponsored fake-catholic church and the state sponsored fake-protestant church.
My point stands: if the government doesn't like YOUR religion (whether that's Roman Catholic, independent Protestant, Tibetan Buddhism following the Dali Lama, or Falun Gong) it makes it illegal, and persecutes its practitioners. - zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -0/+0Don't compare the religious practice with FLG, it's a evil cult with the signature of secret organization, brain washing mind control, self mutilation and money laundering in pyramid structure. Similar cult organization are Eastern Lightning Cult, which uses Christianity as its cover and promote fake Messiah. If Eastern Lightning Cult is condemned by the Christian organization all over the world, so shall be the FLG.
- Hangly, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1Also it may surprise you to know that Mao was a practicing Buddhist.
- zzbao, on 03/14/2008, -11/+1This is a lie. Or you've never being to China. The Chinese government's control of its media and people is at its weakest. There are millions of Christians in China and My pastor regularly goes to China to promote fellowship every summer. I don't see religion is being illegal at all. There are even religious university offer diploma for years in China. I think China is at its best time to practice religion in years. Proof? Many monks are super rich! Even the ones in Tibet. In the city of Chengdu, the Tibetans are the richest people around.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -1/+1what do any one you know about practicing religion in China besides all the negative news you have heard in the media? Yes, that's right, nothing. Shush.
- Hangly, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1I heard they eat abortions and murder you if you have twins. Saw that on Freerepublic or some such place.
- Berkana, on 03/14/2008, -0/+13No, in China, the Shaolin monastery is still run by Buddhist monks, and they still teach Buddhist doctrine. In China, if the government doesn't like YOUR religion, it becomes illegal.
- jabbasi, on 03/14/2008, -3/+7"Chinese security forces were reportedly surrounding three monasteries" maybe they're converting
- apc3161, on 03/14/2008, -0/+9Here are some pictures from the recent riots.
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/articleslides ...
Seems like it's getting pretty hot over there. - digitallysick, on 03/14/2008, -4/+21Free Tibet! I feel so horrible for them, they are buddhist holding peaceful protests and getting shot at, and pepper sprayed by china. Free Tibet, and next, free china
- jyac, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1wtf??? didn't u see he earlier post, it's the tibetan killing the han chinese there now
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0you ***** moron, have you eaten ***** today? since your brain is totally ***** up?
Free Iraq! I feel so horrible for them, they are Muslims holding peaceful protests and getting bombed and shot at. Free Iraq and next free US, wow, that feels great
- BobaFettTDG, on 03/14/2008, -3/+15In communist China, government protests you.
- centerblack, on 03/14/2008, -4/+25***** China, I'm not watching the Olympics.
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0OMFG, thats gonna result in great economical loss for China, ***** moron.
- SpectreFire, on 03/14/2008, -15/+2I support this act, because I hate all forms of religions.
They just cause trouble in the world.- BobaFettTDG, on 03/14/2008, -1/+8Seriously? All the Tibetans want is independence from the oppressive rule of China's communist government.
You should really go crawl back into your hole. - artliquide, on 03/14/2008, -0/+5You want everyone to be atheist? Maybe someday someone will want to get rid of all of the atheists in the world too.
Live and let live
- BobaFettTDG, on 03/14/2008, -1/+8Seriously? All the Tibetans want is independence from the oppressive rule of China's communist government.
- NelsonR, on 03/14/2008, -4/+8When we went into Iraq and attacked that nation unprovoked, who gave us a cops badge, did we also surround Imams like China is now doing. There is a parallel whether you believe it or not.
- dstz, on 03/14/2008, -6/+6I'm really shared. Though my country does well enough in the Olympics (being France, to tell the ugly truth,) and despite I like to keep up late at night to see some sports (soccer ^^,) I'm not going to be a spectator of what it has become. I have nothing especially against China. My country, the US, and plenty others have done really bad ***** I'm ***** not proud of; but this is a little too much. Olympic spirit =!Chinese government.
- oldbull, on 03/16/2008, -0/+0Yes, olympic spirit != chinese government. But did you think why followers of Dalai Lama went into riot in several Chinese cities in almost the same time? Let's search for some backgrounds before pointing fingers just because China has a "communist" label on its head.
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0so you think this is too much huh? take a look at how your people are killing innocent in Iraq or many other places and take a look how your government use torture against all prisoners, i think that is much worse than the Tibet issue.
- gigasquid, on 03/14/2008, -6/+15You raped and pillaged Tibet, you power-drunk little Chinese clowns. I hope the Tibetans embarrass the hell out of you and shove your fancy Olympic facade where the sun never shines
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0***** you moron and ***** Tibet, we will kill them if they start killing Chinese.
- macgallant, on 03/14/2008, -7/+16F**ing free Tibet already, why is China being such a bully?! plus free Taiwan as well!
- Berkana, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2Taiwan is already free; although Taiwan was governed by imperial China, in the wake of the civil war between the nationalists and the communists, the nationalists fled to Taiwan and took the seat of their government with them. The communists never ruled over Taiwan; they're only laying claim to it. Taiwan doesn't need to "declare independence" from China, because they've been independent since the civil war. (Disclosure: I'm ethically Taiwanese-Chinese. But biases aside, what I mentioned above is history. Taiwan has never been ruled over by the mainland communist government.)
What China needs to do is to stop bullying Taiwan. China wants to rule over all the historic chinese population centers and (though unspoken) exert influence on all present chinese populations, from Malaysia to the Canadian and American Chinatowns and other Chinese enclaves, whether the ethnic enclaves are new or old or have anything to do with the present "communist" government. That's why they're laying claim to Tibet, which was ruled over by one of the dynasties way back, and that's also why they can't stand the idea of a democratic and independent Taiwan.- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1I think you deliberately missed certain points of history to eliminate the ties between Taiwan and mainland China. Taiwan was never a independent state by itself. In the Imperial China, it's called Taiwan Province. During the 50 year Imperial Japanese occupation, it's a oversea colony, in which the locals has no rights to vote nor given equal treatment as lawful citizen of Japan. They were not even given rights to serve in Imperial Japanese armed force as enlisted soldier until very late in the war when Japan was short of man power. After surrender of Japanese forces in 1945, the island was lawfully given back to then Chinese government (Republic of China) as a reward for her great sacrifice in WWII, a lost of more than 30 million Chinese lives and a war torn country. It's very unfortunate that civil war soon broke out in mainland and the Nationalist was retreated to Taiwan, but there is little dispute that Taiwan isn't under Chinese rule ever since. I agree with you that Taiwan was never ruled by Communist, but it's still ruled officially by another Chinese government. You cannot substitute Communist with China as they are two different entities.
- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -0/+0We Chinese may not agree with one or another Chinese government, but at least we should have a sense of pride and respect about ourself, our roots and our nationality. Tibet like Taiwan, was on the official map of Republic of China since day one even though it's an autonomous region from time to time. On the land of Tibet lives more than 10 ethnic groups for centuries, including Tibetans, Hans, Muslims, Qiangs, These people are all Chinese without dispute.
It's ridiculous to spread the hoax that current Chinese government has intention of rule all places that ethnic Chinese lives. If that's true, why not Chinese government accepts dual citizenship? In fact, it's defined by Chinese Citizenship law that any Chinese citizen that naturalized as citizen of other country automatically abandoned the citizenship of People's Republic of China. Even the new born from Chinese parents with Chinese citizenship are not granted Chinese citizenship if one of the parents is already permanent residence of another country.
- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -0/+0We Chinese may not agree with one or another Chinese government, but at least we should have a sense of pride and respect about ourself, our roots and our nationality. Tibet like Taiwan, was on the official map of Republic of China since day one even though it's an autonomous region from time to time. On the land of Tibet lives more than 10 ethnic groups for centuries, including Tibetans, Hans, Muslims, Qiangs, These people are all Chinese without dispute.
- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1I think you deliberately missed certain points of history to eliminate the ties between Taiwan and mainland China. Taiwan was never a independent state by itself. In the Imperial China, it's called Taiwan Province. During the 50 year Imperial Japanese occupation, it's a oversea colony, in which the locals has no rights to vote nor given equal treatment as lawful citizen of Japan. They were not even given rights to serve in Imperial Japanese armed force as enlisted soldier until very late in the war when Japan was short of man power. After surrender of Japanese forces in 1945, the island was lawfully given back to then Chinese government (Republic of China) as a reward for her great sacrifice in WWII, a lost of more than 30 million Chinese lives and a war torn country. It's very unfortunate that civil war soon broke out in mainland and the Nationalist was retreated to Taiwan, but there is little dispute that Taiwan isn't under Chinese rule ever since. I agree with you that Taiwan was never ruled by Communist, but it's still ruled officially by another Chinese government. You cannot substitute Communist with China as they are two different entities.
- 2ndEdition, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1***** taiwan. just make our lives easier by joining china. YOU"RE TOO SMALL!!
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0Free Iraq and get oil back from the bloody American hands
Free the whole US and give it back to the Indians, oh wait, you ***** have killed them all!!!!!
- Berkana, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2Taiwan is already free; although Taiwan was governed by imperial China, in the wake of the civil war between the nationalists and the communists, the nationalists fled to Taiwan and took the seat of their government with them. The communists never ruled over Taiwan; they're only laying claim to it. Taiwan doesn't need to "declare independence" from China, because they've been independent since the civil war. (Disclosure: I'm ethically Taiwanese-Chinese. But biases aside, what I mentioned above is history. Taiwan has never been ruled over by the mainland communist government.)
- nico623, on 03/14/2008, -7/+2What exactly is telling MicroSoft Networks going to do ?
- leerayIG88, on 03/14/2008, -8/+8quick we gotta do something!! *plays halo 3*
- paulmer2003, on 03/14/2008, -7/+12***** communist China.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/14/2008, -4/+9China is only communist through technicality, it is far from communist these days, even the Chinese government admits that. You ***** moron, know your ***** before you talk it.
- theutopian, on 03/14/2008, -0/+4Yeah they dropped the Communist Economic policies part but kept the totalitarian government part.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -2/+1You mean it's more of a Socialist type government? Like the UK?? so how come nobody protests the UK??? hmmm
- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -0/+0Didn't British force fire into the crowd of demonstrator in Northern Ireland? Didn't Ohio National Guide fire into Kent State peaceful student demonstrator? Didn't Detroit police charge into the African American with tear gas, rubber stick and dogs? A government by definition is a repressing power, in a sense that it wouldn't tolerate civil unrest. It has nothing to do with the type of government, socialist or capitalism, doesn't make any difference.
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0are we talking about US here? lol, you brainless monkey, think before you talk, what the ***** do you know about china and communism?
- theutopian, on 03/14/2008, -0/+4Yeah they dropped the Communist Economic policies part but kept the totalitarian government part.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/14/2008, -4/+9China is only communist through technicality, it is far from communist these days, even the Chinese government admits that. You ***** moron, know your ***** before you talk it.
- GPY26, on 03/14/2008, -9/+4This makes me want to form my own military and defend Tibet.
***** CHINA.
They'll be our enemy soon enough. I can't wait. Peace-loving hippy here... but I get pissed off. Have no problem with any people... but sometimes to keep a life going, it needs surgery. Is the U.S. exempt from this analogy? No. If there's a country or a group capable enough to come and invade us and CHANGE US FOR THE BETTER then I'd jump for joy the day that invasion began. I'd even join among the ranks of them.
***** CHINESE GOVERNMENT. I swear if I was there your laws wouldn't mean ***** to me.- an0nym0uz, on 03/14/2008, -8/+2your a ***** idiot obviously from the boondocks. Peace loving hippie? NEWS FLASH, CHINA ISN'T AT WAR WITH ANYONE.
- artliquide, on 03/14/2008, -1/+4Ok. Then it's not war...just genocide and religious oppression.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -2/+1funny, so what should the war in Iraq be called?
- artliquide, on 03/16/2008, -0/+1different animal...not that I'm in favor of war anywhere, but no comparison.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -2/+1funny, so what should the war in Iraq be called?
- theAlice, on 03/15/2008, -2/+3China is at war with freedom.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -3/+1that is such an ignorant comment.
- theAlice, on 03/15/2008, -1/+3so millions of displaced people, dozens of annexed countries, countless undocumented atrocities and mass censorship of free speech isn't a war on freedom?
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -3/+1that is such an ignorant comment.
- MewTwo, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2Quit your whining. I'm making a lot of assumptions here, but let's. You wouldn't go one day in China without going into a fetal position wishing you were back in your comfy suburban house.
- artliquide, on 03/14/2008, -1/+4Ok. Then it's not war...just genocide and religious oppression.
- theAlice, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3Violence will not solve anything.
- oldbull, on 03/16/2008, -0/+0I'd like to see your "military and defend Tibet". A cruel fact in the world is "POWER TALKS", which we Chinese learn the hard way from 1840 to 2008.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/14/2008, -8/+2your a ***** idiot obviously from the boondocks. Peace loving hippie? NEWS FLASH, CHINA ISN'T AT WAR WITH ANYONE.
- zzbao, on 03/14/2008, -12/+12You free tibet people just don't understand history and culture of east at all. Typical brain washed. Tibet was a kingdom which has no ties with Da Lai or his religion. It's Da Lai's ancestor sold the entire region to Chinese Emperor, in return for their absolute power. Also as they proclaim themselves the living god, there are dozens living gods and each governs a territory, big or small, just like the small european kingdoms in the mid-ages. The point is that Da Lai is not the sole governer of entire Tibet. Has anyone heard of Banchan Lama? The suppose ruler of the northern tibet? He's actually being driven out of his former territories by DaLai Lama since the early 1930s. For his follower, living under Dalai's rule is one big nightmare. It's the Chinese government, Nationalist or Communist no matter, helps him to retake his pride and territory. He supported the crack down on Dalai's 1959 riot. So what would happen if Dalai comes back to power in all Tibet? Another ethic cleansing?
- GPY26, on 03/14/2008, -5/+8***** china
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -2/+5guy, word your statements more carefully. stupid ***** prick.
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0***** your mum GPY26, the biggest mistake she made is got ***** by your dad, so a ***** like you got out
- an0nym0uz, on 03/14/2008, -7/+4Yes agreed, the Media has brainwashed everybody
- davidwasman, on 03/14/2008, -6/+8Do us a favor. Go earn a Darwin Award.
- jake1986, on 03/14/2008, -3/+7Yea the FAKE Panchen Lama supported by the Chinese... The real Panchen Lama was thrown into prision 20 years ago and nobody even knows if he's alive or not. Dugg.
- zzbao, on 03/14/2008, -6/+3Believe it or not, the whole Lama System is a fake. According to their very own bible, the living god has to be honored by the ruler of China because in Qing Dynasty, the emperor of China is the super living god. You know that the average life time of a living god like DaLai is no more than 30 years before the current DaLai? It's like the Catholic church in which the priest couldn't have his direct relative to inherit the fortune? Every old DaLai were forced to die and a new DaLai was elected from child with no background. The people surround DaLai were the most powerful people. The current DaiLai should thank to Chinese for driven him out of his castle, in which he's doomed to die in early age.
- jake1986, on 03/14/2008, -2/+1Their canonical religious texts are fluid enough that even if that was in there it would be inconsequential to this discussion.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -2/+1don't you know? diggers don't like to know the truth, they bask in their ignorance fueled by the biased western media and love it! that's why after you explain to half the idiots on this posting the history, they digg you down, because they simply don't want to know the truth.
- theAlice, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3nevermind, i'm stupid
- zzbao, on 03/14/2008, -6/+3Believe it or not, the whole Lama System is a fake. According to their very own bible, the living god has to be honored by the ruler of China because in Qing Dynasty, the emperor of China is the super living god. You know that the average life time of a living god like DaLai is no more than 30 years before the current DaLai? It's like the Catholic church in which the priest couldn't have his direct relative to inherit the fortune? Every old DaLai were forced to die and a new DaLai was elected from child with no background. The people surround DaLai were the most powerful people. The current DaiLai should thank to Chinese for driven him out of his castle, in which he's doomed to die in early age.
- burgermind, on 03/14/2008, -9/+4People like simple ideas. Free Tibet! ***** China! Nuance seems to be looked down on for being confusing and boring. It's not just the media. It's also our biology.
- funkyjunk3, on 03/14/2008, -0/+9It just so happens the Panchen Lama was wisked off by the Chinese government to some unknown camp and has not been seen since: http://www.tibet.org/glow/panchen/panchen.html
I wonder if you can even visit that site... - matu4251, on 03/14/2008, -3/+5well, it made the Dalai Lama a rock star in the west. I mean the guy drinks green tea with Bono... I'm not even sure he cares about what's going on in Tibet.
I agree with you, people have no clue what they are talking about. They vaguely heard china invaded in the 50's yesterday in the news so they "know".- funkyjunk3, on 03/14/2008, -1/+3Tibet was far from a fiefdom overseen by China, it was a sovereign country from at least 1913 on. It has been controlled by many different groups for hundreds of years, the Chinese only being one of them. The Dalai Lama was both religious leader AND political leader of Tibet when it was invaded. I've done some research on Tibet, and I wish more people would read up on the history. However, the Chinese Govn'ts official literature on Tibet is far from factual.
- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -2/+1DaLai was never nor will be the sole spiritual or the political leader of entire Tibet. The region itself consists of more than 10 different ethnic groups, with different religious background and culture difference. He only has influences in portion of southern Tibet and several counties in north western China which happens to share that same religious teaching of his.
There is an interesting article on Chinese WWII memory website described the memoir of a veteran Nationalist military officer who was ordered from then Nationalist government (the one fled to Taiwan later in 1949) to provide armed escort to late Ban-Chan Lama (2 generation earlier from current) on his trip back to his Tibetan territories in the mid 1930s. Ban-Chan was driven out by the force of DaLai. And his people was suffered by DaLai's rule.
- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -2/+1DaLai was never nor will be the sole spiritual or the political leader of entire Tibet. The region itself consists of more than 10 different ethnic groups, with different religious background and culture difference. He only has influences in portion of southern Tibet and several counties in north western China which happens to share that same religious teaching of his.
- funkyjunk3, on 03/14/2008, -1/+3Tibet was far from a fiefdom overseen by China, it was a sovereign country from at least 1913 on. It has been controlled by many different groups for hundreds of years, the Chinese only being one of them. The Dalai Lama was both religious leader AND political leader of Tibet when it was invaded. I've done some research on Tibet, and I wish more people would read up on the history. However, the Chinese Govn'ts official literature on Tibet is far from factual.
- funkyjunk3, on 03/14/2008, -1/+2COPY PASTA: http://digg.com/world_news/Bjork_s_Tibet_protest_o ...
- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -1/+0Bjork is crazy enough. I wouldn't comment on her action as she's mentally ill already. She's actually a promoter of any independence movement. So be it@! Free Quebec, Free Texas, Free New England, Free Wales, Free Scotland, Free my land and I pay no tax no more!
- transcendz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3You don't even have a clue about the true story. Tibet has ruled China sometimes as well, and Mongolia did the same. What should we do, then ? Give China back to Mongolia ? Don't you understand that there is a TIME LINE in history, and that Tibet was independant when chinese army striked through Tibetan frontier in 1959 ? Don't you understand that tibetan people have a culture, a language and that they didn't ask you to come and save them, and give them that poor materialist "civilisation" that you force them to assimilate ? Be respectful with each others and stop thinking that Han people are people from heaven, then maybe we could listen to what you have to say.
- GPY26, on 03/14/2008, -5/+8***** china
- funkyjunk3, on 03/14/2008, -3/+15China's also shooting Tibetans trying to flee the country: http://youtube.com/watch?v=veQIdaR0J70
"they're shooting them like dogs"- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0you can try to get out of your own country the way they did, and see what will happen to you. They will blow your ass off
- GPY26, on 03/14/2008, -3/+3***** china again, even though I'm wrong too.
- jc801, on 03/14/2008, -5/+2***** your mother dude seriously
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0ok? ***** your mum again? even if she is hairy?
- RobertMarley, on 03/14/2008, -3/+3now does everyone have a clearer picture of where we're heading?
- zzbao, on 03/14/2008, -5/+0Your American dollars are doomed! Guess world will be a peaceful place then.
- PolishLogic, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1...says the representative from Florida.
- zzbao, on 03/14/2008, -5/+0Your American dollars are doomed! Guess world will be a peaceful place then.
- davidwasman, on 03/14/2008, -0/+9How sad a world we live in when a Real Player image (which is as old as the internet itself) has more diggs than this.
*facepalm* - jc801, on 03/14/2008, -14/+3before all of you go crusading for Tibet, do any of you even know WHY the monks are protesting? Besides just reading the headline and thinking its wrong, do any of you even know the backstory behind the whole situation? you ***** ignorant internet crusaders read a ***** history book before you go saying dumb *****
- metric7, on 03/14/2008, -3/+5Do enlighten us.
- OMGLINUXWOAH, on 03/15/2008, -4/+3Yeah, we do. Please stick up for china, its always funny to watch.
- AuLKenny, on 03/14/2008, -4/+12Seems too be a lot of people bitching about China's treatment of a few Tibetans monks... BOYCOTT THE OLYMPICS!!!!
Did we already forget about the US occupation of Iraq and the needless deaths occuring each day. America ***** YEAH! A bunch of hypocrites...- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+8Hypocrisy is becoming synonymous with being American
- PolishLogic, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1How can we forget? Every story submitted to Digg has at least one comment reminding us of that.
Funny Cat Video comment: "The cat was probably owned by a bastard that supports the bloodshed in Iraq at the hands of the evil US empire." - yingjai, on 03/15/2008, -0/+4i think we should boycott american products. FREE IRAQ! BOYCOTT AMERICA!!!
- robbinzo, on 03/15/2008, -0/+2America is controlled by international bankers - what president Eisenhower called the military industrial complex and what JFK warned about when he talked of secretive organisations.
The communists who took over China were also funded by these same international bankers (even the History Channel has talked about this), as was Hitler and the Bolshevik revolution in Russia (see 'Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler' & 'Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution' by Anthony C. Sutton).
America is being used by the elite power-brokers to consolidate their wealth & power.
Communism was never supposed to be a system for the people. It is a centralised command and control structure designed to limit individual wealth and allow an elite to parasitically feed off the people. In short, Communism is a state-run monopoly of power, industry and finance.
So what I'm saying is this: It is not the ordinary people of America or China who are 'to blame' for starting or even continuing wars but a corrupt elite. People will go along with almost anything their leaders say especially if the lie is a great big whopper, as Joseph Goebbels is often quoted as saying.
- Lnet, on 03/14/2008, -9/+1Boycott the Chinese by not dating Chinese women!!!
- OMGLINUXWOAH, on 03/15/2008, -5/+2They are ass-less...
- IPatrickBateman, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1You obviously haven't been to Thailand!!!!
- mateoberry, on 04/13/2008, -0/+1You are an embarrassment to your gender.
- IPatrickBateman, on 04/14/2008, -0/+2oh, okay....that'd be 1 in 6 women on the planet. Is your sister cute?
- OMGLINUXWOAH, on 03/15/2008, -5/+2They are ass-less...
- metric7, on 03/14/2008, -3/+8FREE TIBET, ***** the opressive chinese regime
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0Free your mind monkey, its called oppressive not opressive, you moron.
- Lobsangrs, on 03/14/2008, -3/+4all my prayers to the monks still living in Tibet.
om manee pad me hum- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0all my prayers to the people that are threatening by the monks and those who lost their children because these crazy monks burned them alive.
- JointVenture, on 03/14/2008, -6/+3Why is "Buddhism" cool?
I thought diggers hated organized religion?- troycott, on 03/14/2008, -2/+3so what you're saying is there's a double standard on digg?
- OMGLINUXWOAH, on 03/15/2008, -1/+3Yeah buddhism is a real organized religion and his nothing to do with the self.
- JointVenture, on 03/15/2008, -3/+0Yes it is very Organized, there are many different types in different countries.
It has a heaven, a hell, demons and gods just like any other religion.
It also happens to have a man who sits under a tree for a real long time and turns into a LOTUS. hmmmmmmmmmm- transcendz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+2Heaven, demons, etc... are only metaphorical. They don't have any proper existence, but are sometimes needed for visualisation.
- JointVenture, on 03/15/2008, -3/+0Yes it is very Organized, there are many different types in different countries.
- URnotheonly1, on 03/14/2008, -5/+2WHOA! Better print more bumper stickers
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -4/+9Don't any of you find it suspicious that BUDDHIST monks are RIOTING?? Buddhism is a religion all about pacifism, the fact that they are rioting should make all of you think twice. What? are you going to say the Chinese police provoked them? that excuse is already out of question because the Chinese government is doing all it can to avoid things like this so you can bet your ass that if a Chinese soldier was caught provoking riots he'd be in real deep *****, and we all know what happens to government officials in China that make the country look bad. So maybe before playing the blame game and pointing all your fingers at China you should really take a minute and think real hard about the whole situation.
- JointVenture, on 03/15/2008, -3/+1You know nothing about Buddhism, what you know is mainstream western interpretation of Buddhism.
Buddhism is the religion that asks us to believe that one can sit under a tree for a real long time and turn into a Lotus plant. - transcendz, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2What do you mean, then ? Did you have a look to the pictures ? It's not the monks that are rioting, but the young tibetans. And even if the monks would do this, don't you understand that 50 years of occupation / torture / culture eradication is enough to provoke some novice monks !?
- an0nym0uz, on 03/16/2008, -0/+250 years of torture? have you been to tibet? do you know anything at all? pictures? ok and do you know the stories behind the pictures? the history? anything? let me guess you are a huge fan of fox news. explains it all.
- JointVenture, on 03/15/2008, -3/+1You know nothing about Buddhism, what you know is mainstream western interpretation of Buddhism.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -4/+3IN CASE YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW BUDDHISM IS A MAJOR RELIGION IN CHINA.
- davidwasman, on 03/15/2008, -0/+3In case you don't know, your caps lock key is on
- jc801, on 03/15/2008, -5/+5Digg me down all you want for looking CLEARLY at both sides of the story. One thing I just can't understand is how everyone can blame China for things like this especially when there are PLENTY of issues much worse than this, such as the illegal war in Iraq. Seriously, can anyone really say that what's happening right now is worse than the ILLEGAL war in Iraq?
- PolishLogic, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2I'll digg you up for one reason only. You're at least not saying "***** the war" while calling for the US to do more to help Tibet in some way.
I'd have given you a bonus digg (if I could) if you'd have also continued on by saying we had no business meddling in Saddam's business in the first place.
fwiw: I don't agree with your stance on the war, but at least you're not hypocritical in your opposition. - transcendz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1No, we can't say that, war in Iraq is a pretty bad thing, too. But it's not because something is bad in the world that we shouldn't speak about other bad things happening. Human rights are for everyone.
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0maybe you guys can try not to sound like you are the perfect ones at the first place?
- PolishLogic, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2I'll digg you up for one reason only. You're at least not saying "***** the war" while calling for the US to do more to help Tibet in some way.
- nullcodes, on 03/15/2008, -4/+3Are there really people who want to live under the rule of monks? No doubt the monks will begin ethnic cleansing the Han and Hui populations as soon as they gain power. Expect them to put in socialist and even communist style state owned monopolies on a variety of businesses. Since Tibetans are currently not taxed, 90% of Tibet's government revenue comes from China. So after independence the monks will put probably a tax on the Tibetan people (prolly right after they murder and forcefully evict non Tibetan ethnicities). Land doesn't automatically belong to a ethnic group.
- transcendz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1Your rhetoric is plain wrong. Nothing is ruled by monks anymore in the Tibetan government in exile, thanks to the Dalai Lama. At least get your facts right and ask tibetan people what they think, maybe you'll learn something...
- oldbull, on 03/16/2008, -0/+0Tibetan people? In the US or in Tibet?
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0thanks to the Dalai Lama? dude, seriously you should read about all the ***** he did while he got the power
- transcendz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1Your rhetoric is plain wrong. Nothing is ruled by monks anymore in the Tibetan government in exile, thanks to the Dalai Lama. At least get your facts right and ask tibetan people what they think, maybe you'll learn something...
- ericknows, on 03/15/2008, -9/+0very funny,,hahaa~~~~~
I am Han people,,and Tibet is one part of China,,,***** you alll~~~~~So foolish,,hahha
你们全部是他妈批日批嘞,把你们自己的国家管好就是了,标来管我们中国的事情,狗日嘞全是、些大鸡巴洋鬼子,不看奥运会就标看,莫得哪个逼到你们看,你以为你不看中国就要跨啊,个大鸡巴,哈哈哈~~~~- Hangly, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2美国和加拿大也有华人的小数民族. 按照你的逻辑中国是美国的一部分. 天下统一!
你来我们国家的网页随便骂人真的让你的国家和你的人民没面子了. 你文明的讨论好不好. 你令人太尴尬了.- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0well, maybe he acted that way because you people havn't been that polite neither?
- Hangly, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2美国和加拿大也有华人的小数民族. 按照你的逻辑中国是美国的一部分. 天下统一!
- solid12345, on 03/15/2008, -4/+5Funny how so many hippies take up the cause of the Tibetans when the Dalai Lama is opposed to homosexuality and abortion.
- willywong, on 03/15/2008, -1/+2Do homosexuals really have need of abortion though?
- transcendz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+2He's not against but he's not for, that's a very important difference.
- donkeySays, on 03/15/2008, -2/+7FREE TIBET! BOYCOT THE BEIJING OLYMPICS.
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0Free my ass so i can ***** on your face
- JasonCox, on 03/15/2008, -3/+3I fully support the actions of the PLA in suppressing this rebellion. While I don't agree with the occupation of Tibet, violence will not be tolerated. Failure to comply will result in extreme penalites.
- transcendz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1It's been 50 years and their peaceful resistance has given them NOTHING ! What were you waiting for ?
- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0so.... if the Indians start to kill Americans now, that will be fine for you? its like more than 100 years ago white people invaded their country oh wait, you killed them all, maybe China should follow the footprints of US, kill all Tibetans.
- zzbao, on 03/15/2008, -1/+3Is these what you called peaceful demonstration?
The Guardian, Saturday March 15 2008
This is an eyewitness account of a foreign resident in Lhasa who took refuge in a hotel close to the centre of the Tibetan capital yesterday. The city was gripped by violence after protesters and police clashed
"Oh my God. Oh no. That's crazy. One hundred people are trying to stone one man. A man was trying to cross the street with his motorcycle - they were trying to stone him but it's so crowded I can't see whether they got him or not.
"We came out for a walk about at about five today. I knew something was happening because there were a lot of people on the street. We were on Sera Street, which goes to the [Klukang] monastery. It sounds like the noise came from there; it sounds like at first they had been fighting in the temple.
"We saw people running and people in this hotel told us to get in quickly as the crowd was coming. They seem OK here, maybe the owner is Tibetan. All the other hotels have smashed windows.
"The residents are very angry. They are throwing stones at anyone who is Han [Chinese] or from other minorities like the Hui, who are Muslims. It seems like it's ethnic - like they want to kill anyone not Tibetan.
"I would say it's a riot here but I think in the centre it's worse. There's a lot of smoke - we can see it where there have been burnings. I heard people saying the authorities were firing, using guns. We don't know.
Here we have seen people trying to stone anyone they can - Han and other minorities, not foreigners. The Tibetans had stones and knives. I saw Chinese people running away - there was nothing they could do.
"We don't see any police around here. Maybe they're all in the centre and are too busy. It's very violent.
"Oh my God. Someone has a gun in front of me. There's a group of about 20 people - two of them have handguns. They are walking the street.They're shooting. They didn't have uniforms, but the way they were in a group I thought maybe they were police. They went down the street and the first one fired, that's for sure - I think the others did; there was so much noise I can't be sure. Then some of the citizens threw stones, but not at them - in the other direction. So I don't know if they were police or maybe Tibetans.
"I have just been out to get my things. We are staying at the hotel tonight. There are still people on the streets but only Tibetans - if they see anyone
Chinese they throw stones.
"Three times people raised their arms and then when they saw I was white they stopped it. The thing that surprised me most was that I saw no police or soldiers.
"I saw three people assaulting a man - I was 50 metres away, but I think he was Chinese. They kicked him and then one man had a knife and used it. He was lying on the floor and the man put the knife in his back, like he wanted to see he was dead.
"I had to get away, there were people throwing stones.
"When I came back he was gone - I don't know if he's dead. Then I saw people who had obviously been beaten or stoned. There wasn't blood on them but they were so shocked.
"This area used to be a place where Tibetans and the Chinese were friendly.
"I think this is going to get worse. One person told me 300 people have died in the city centre [the Guardian has no information to substantiate this claim]. I just don't know."
guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2008- keff, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1You'd better find out about how Tibet was annexed by China, then talk about peace.
Those people have been quiet for a long time, and saw that going nowhere!- fuckUSA, on 03/18/2008, -0/+0maybe that's why the US wants to kill as many as possible all of the world, so people wont have a chance to talk about peace, thereby no violence?
- keff, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1You'd better find out about how Tibet was annexed by China, then talk about peace.
- sevvo, on 03/15/2008, -4/+0Whine all you want, but the Chinese Communists managed to get two things right: the dissolution of the Tibetan theocracy http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html and the eradication of foot-binding.
- larsh2, on 03/15/2008, -0/+0I agree with you that it is very important to understand the history of Tibet, and this article is definitely worth reading.
I think the basic problem is that Tibetans view on how freedom and happiness is achieved is totally different from the Chinese (and also western) view. - transcendz, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1What kind of story is this ? These are complete lies which are not even backed up by facts. Do you know Alexandra David Neel ? She was a very clever woman and when she when to TIbet anonymously she didn't even see 1% of your PCC propaganda before chinese invasion.
Tibet was not perfect, but tibetans didn't ask for anything to chinese. Then, why didn't they leave them alone ?
- larsh2, on 03/15/2008, -0/+0I agree with you that it is very important to understand the history of Tibet, and this article is definitely worth reading.
- alcibiade, on 03/15/2008, -2/+2Italian's www.corriere.it reports "100 deads"
- An0nym0u5, on 03/15/2008, -2/+1FREE IRAQ! Oh wait.....
- an0nym0uz, on 03/15/2008, -1/+3It's ridiculous how easily the mainstream American population is so easily distracted and manipulated by the government and media. You should all take a look at this article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23644788/
"Simple monks, simple Tibetans, do they even know what is the driving force behind the push for independence?"
Seriously, do ANY of you really know why tibetans want independence? what so the US can come in and take over instead? -
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