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- Wezlanator, on 10/12/2007, -5/+44Political commentary my ass.
They're just tired of all the horrible written emo blogs and poorly designed pages. - Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Is Myspace still allowed through the firewall? If so, they're going about this entirely the wrong way...
- rwerkun, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23"In fact, GreatFirewallofChina reinforces just how much information Chinese people are being denied access to: Wikipedia, Digg, Google.com, CNN, Xanga and many more. Of course, this post won’t reach China, because the site says that Mashable.com is blocked, too (the site does claim to occasionally give false positives, however). Still, we can’t do any further harm by saying that these blocks are ridiculous."
Guess what, I am currently reading this here in Beijing, China. So there is quite a bit of ***** going on here:
1 - Digg.com - Works great, haven't had any problems. The only problems I get sometimes is with the fm... ad servers taking forever even when the rest of the page loads in a second or two, but a lot of people get that from what I read.
2 - Google.com - the only thing blocked about it is cache.
3 - Xanga.com - works for me.
4 - CNN.com - working without any problems.
I haven't experienced the "many more" sites to be honest. One flaw in the great firewall is that it will slow down latency due to the pocket filtering (on average 400ms to the US whereas from HK (not behind the firewall) it will run around 150ms or so). So not too much World of Warcrafting going on :(.
However I love how mashable.com!!! (where I read the article hence got the quote) is blowing this out of proportion. Live Journal is a blog people, where 8k people out of 1.3b were using. Do you honestly believe that you have no internet based blogs where people post their grievances on the CPC? The people that are smart use word play instead of stating the obvious which is caught by the filters.
Lastly keep in mind this is a communist country, you do not have complete freedom of speech nor press. So don't be shocked! In the US the primary media outlets are bought and paid for, in a way its the same ***** just sounds far prettier than "censored". - drouk1556, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20hahahahahahahaha chigg
no. - R34C7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13We spend a lot of time on digg talking about how we are losing our liberty in America... Freedom of speech is a beautiful thing, worth fighting for.
- saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21Would you like me to call the waaambulance? Or perhaps OFFicer Topic can help you...
- PatrioticKiwi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Don't worry, France is now doing the same:
http://digg.com/world_news/French_government_taking_control_of_internet_information_outlets - ogmak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I have lived in china for 3 years now, and most blog sites are not functional (blogspot, livejournal, blogger.com, etc). Same with Wikipedia, its nothing big cuz we have free proxys, butnot too many dont know how to use them, so thats not good for them. Oh well, hard to live with it, but i find my way around...
until Digg gets blocked, im fine! otherwise, im soooo screwed. - nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Agreed, they're saving a billion people from reading about how Jessica's friends are all too needy and she's tired of feeling like she has to always be there for everyone or they'll walk out on her just like her bf in high school.
China ***** up a lot, but I've got to give them the thumbs up for this. - ch28kid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I am not surprise, because China never had freedom of speech to start with.
Banning digg in china is similar to banning their version of "American Idol", voting process on cellphone. Apparently being about to vote on cellphone is consider too much freedom. - zephc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Things like this are examples of the last gasps of China's old regime as technology and capitalism take over totally.
- skyfire1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This ***** is why proxy servers exist.
- skulljar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If people were offered a choice between a free press and free sausages, of course they would choose free sausages.
- R34C7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yay proxies, the cause of and solution to many of life's security based issues... : )
- artemster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@brickguy
"You are not knowledgeable enough to understand what it means to control a country with the population of China."
Keep drinking the cool-aid. Attitudes like this allow tyrranical dictatorships to arise and control things in the first place. I guess people were not knowledgeable enough to understand Mao's dumbass land reform before he bankrupted the country. - Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Prysorra, RE-THE *****-LAX.
First off, they were jokes taking jabs at Livejournal. Second off your wrong on this one. Censorship is not a product of apathy, if anything it's from people who care too much and rather than solve a problem on their own, they demand the government to step in and handle it for them. In China it's still different. It's China, a country that's not even Democratic to begin with and a country that has way different values than the West. Over there it's the government that thinks 5 billion people can't handle the internet themselves so they have to step in and make sure no one sees certain websites or play too much World of Warcraft whether someone asks them to or not. - jhnewt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I think we should learn to respect China's culture of censorship.
/sarcasm - SuperCujo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@geronimo: A bit dramatic, don't you think?
- Tempest811, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6yeah everyone says 'good riddance' but if this happened in the US, everyone would be screaming bloody murder
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sounds like a government-sponsored bury brigade.
I wonder when Chinese government will start assigning
their security people to bury all posts critical of China. - vanchuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3As ogmak said, this is not news, most large blog sites have been banned in China for years. I lived there for two years and had to always switch on the proxy any time I wanted to look at a story on one of these sites.
Actually the site that was blocked in China that gave me the most grief was Google Video. I used to curse people on Digg whenever they'd post links to interesting things on Google Video. Luckily, at least half the time, those videos were available on other sites like YouTube. In this case though, it's not the government firewalls doing the censoring, but Google's voluntary choice not to make Google Video available in China (voluntarily, as in blackmailed by the government to do so). I was worried that when they bought YouTube, it would be likewise controlled, but so far it's all good. - SuperCujo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4LiveJournal sucks, get over it...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wirrr it brend?
- yobbo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3its a very stupid title - 'China's Evil (snigger) censorship continues', perfect for an equally stupid article.
Anything that starts with "I know we’re supposed to be respectful of other cultures..." is not going to be a good read, the moronic author suggesting that censorship is part of Chinese culture?
and lastly, do we really need a non-chinese crusading for internet freedoms in China? Its great that kind heart, self-appointed enlightened warriors care about how China uses its internet, but its not needed thanks - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5evil censorship?
that's a little judgemental. - darkmule, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Not too much war crafting going on!?
I play with around 1500ms on average.. I'm not in China though. :( Sitting in the middle of the south pacific myself.
None the less, I think Western Media exaggerates the whole 'great firewall' concept. I'm sure there are websites the US censors, or the UK, or other countries, its just the fact we can't see them. - penguinshome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Chigg...good idea...(goes and checks to see if the domain is taken)... It's Taken! Damn! Foiled Again!!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i'd like to see you manage a billion people any better
- diulei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Chinese people eat sausages...they're slightly sweet. Not sure if they're derived from their European counterpart but they have them.
- JDenigma, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, that's me. I bought it from Godaddy.com and so it's reserved to me. I shall be starting up a competitor to Digg and I will bring all of you down. Come to the dark side! The Digg empire will be brought down. May the force be with you! Mwuahhhahahahhah.
- olivierleroux, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I just wanted to say that I'm a Canadian living in Shanghai and I wonder where the writer took his information, but it is all fake propaghanda. Yes there is censorship here. I cannot deny it. Yes it is sometimes abhoring, but the fact is: digg is not blocked. Mashable.com is not blocked either, neither is google.com.
So before you write such a rant about something you don't know, you should make sure all your statements are true, cause to me, you're much more of a loser if your key arguments can be easily torn down. - TheOtherGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My blog (under my own domain) is banned in China.. I can't the hell figure out why, but I kinda like the idea of being a political subversive.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@skulljar: That insight was from an NPR story aired today (well done), but it was about Russia (wrong country).
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7678874
Beside, I don't think the Chinese eat sausages, do they? - jlmillr2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Call me post-Enlightenment old-fashioned, but I tend to believe that governmental censorship/blocking access to media is wrong, as its intended end is to control thought, to filter what is acceptable for you to even THINK about.
Evil? Damn right it is. But only if you value things like thought and free speech. - xSEED, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it's not the us. get used to it fatasses of america
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1China is not really considered a strategic ally at all. In fact all the government whitepapers say they're our "theoretical" enemy. Bush may say it on TV, but all the Axis of Evil nations are actually China's closest allies.
Finally Chinese media regularly portrays the USA as literally the "Evil Empire that Meddles". Even Chinese media in the USA does that. - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3When China finally has its revolution it will be scary - all these brainwashed drones who in the past defended their regime will flip to the other side and attack the ones who fed them lies for so long. At the apex of this revolution, control will be tightened only to be met with a violent response, which will be met with violent response. China is on its way to democracy every time their government tries to control its citizens.
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Seems to work for India and its ~1 billion people.
- StickyFumblings, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sometimes Myspace works and sometimes it doesn't, in Shanghai at least
- opiniastrous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Discovered it was in the article seconds after posting this, but hey:
http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/test/ - skulljar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They may take our lives........ but they can never take... our SAUSAGES!!
- Fallout911, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And they are one of our biggest allies....
And we continue to deny relations to Cuba for their "oppressive" attitude towards their citizens...
Clear double standard. - Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That joke sucked. Stick with the "in Soviet Russia" and "will it blend" cliches.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think they already have
- Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ok THAT was pretty funny.
- phytonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@geronimo
Poor people in India is are controlled by their religion. Maybe you won't understand 'cos you might be controlled by christian too. - phytonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Inaccurate information everywhere. I guess that's another kind of cencorship.
- phytonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes China is a ***** right now. Let's say 12" wide. How about US? Well, I would say 8" wide.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not really, according to groups like Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and Reporters Without Borders...
China's Human Rights, Civil Liberties, and Press Freedom has gotten worse since Tiananmen Square. Capitalism does nothing.
Recently about 2/3rds of the population lost healthcare, the poor rural part of China, making up about 800 million without even half decent medical care. -
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