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- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -6/+407If Cheney's office is not in the Executive Branch, then Executive Privilege does not apply. Subpoena away!
- rmwest2001, on 10/11/2007, -3/+280My God, Cheney has no shame. None.
- Winters, on 10/11/2007, -4/+185I love how these guys just make ***** up as they go along.
- ChristPissed, on 10/11/2007, -4/+163All the more reason to impeach & incarcerate this vile piece of *****.
- JCSaint, on 10/11/2007, -5/+141EntropyMan,
No, no, no. Cheney is part of the Cheney branch of government. The super double secret shadow government branch. They don't have Executive Privilege but they'll throw you in jail without charge for bringing it up. =P - troelsbay, on 10/11/2007, -4/+119I don't understand why you're all questioning this? Of course Cheney's office is not part of the executive branch. It's part of the Galactic Empire and the Order of the Sith Lords.
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -2/+110Oh & archives filed a complaint with the Dept of Justice who did not do anything, well that's a shocker!
You mean the AG Gonzales let Cheney break the law & used the DOJ for political purposes? No way!
- gimlik, on 10/11/2007, -6/+113Cheney later added, "meh... mehhhhh... meh-meh-meh... mehhhhhhhh!"
/Impression of Jon Stewart's impression of Dick Cheney - inactive, on 10/29/2007, -5/+109Cheney lie? No Way!
Can we impeach after he gets out of office? This guy belongs behind bars.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+87I'm no Pelosi fan, but could she really be any worse???
- soul1239, on 10/11/2007, -2/+73So ..... when exactly does congress decide to quit dicking around with all these investigations and just begin the impeachment trials for Cheney & Bush?
Given the amount of scandels that have recently surfaced (in addition to the oil war and civil liberty violations), it's amazing how much people are willing to stomach. It makes me even more sick that they tried to impeach Clint for getting a goddamn blowjob in the white house. - toddcat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+65Additionally, Congress is now being held in the West Wing men's bathroom among three members and the US Supreme Court has adjourned to a waffle house in Fargo, N.D.
- UnFriendlyFire, on 10/11/2007, -2/+56Uh.. main-stream media...hellooo...is anyone home?
/obvious sarcasm - Punkazz189, on 10/11/2007, -3/+53impeachment doesn't mean jailtime.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -1/+43"Bill Clinton claimed executive privilege for Hillary during some court case."
Could that have been some sort of executive/marital privilege combo?
Even if it worked, the last time I checked, Bush and Cheney weren't married (and couldn't be, because of their legislative efforts. Oh, the irony). - davebg8r, on 10/11/2007, -1/+42So, exactly what branch are you a part of there Dick? Or are you a new branch all to yourself? Sorry but precedent is against you. Answer up and face the consequences. We independent conservatives dont like your crap any more than the liberals do. Youll get no support from us pulling this type of stuff. In fact, we will want your blood even more since you are betraying all the things that you claim to believe.
- obliviousfool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+40EntropyMan, I remember looking into this at one point. Before this Bush, executive privilege was never really extended to the VP. I mean, they probably took it without saying so. Bill Clinton claimed executive privilege for Hillary during some court case. I think that's the first court case where executive privilege was extended beyond the President. Bush further extended executive privilege to the VP by way of executive order. I can't remember which number. That executive order hasn't been challenged in court yet.
- soul1239, on 10/11/2007, -1/+41@miketrin, pullit:
Personally, I don't really understand how Pelosi could be worse. Given that we have a completely defunct Justice Department, a never-ending war on credit for our grandkids to pay, lack of privacy/constitutional rights, etc .... I don't think we will be left with much recourse besides impeachment. I would think otherwise if this administration was willing to admit one single mistake or suggestion.
What else is left our "decider" just says "I support this man / this "mission", etc." when it's all a bold faced lie? I'm writing my congressman (Udall from Colorado) and posing this same question to him. I encourage others to do the same. As long as you pull the defeatist "nothing will change because people don't care", it becomes a self-full filling prophesy. - writingrights, on 10/11/2007, -1/+39I saw one of my senators, Arlen Specter (R-PA), speak last fall. He was completely unprofessional and made jokes not just about other senators political views but about their physical appearance. Someone in the audience listed just a few of the executive branch's crimes and asked when the senate was going to "take action" on these issues. Specter replied that he would "never" impeach Bush because he saw the pain and division it caused in the country when Clinton was impeached.
Is that some of the biggest ***** you've ever heard, or what? - MeMongo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+40After he's out of office, he'll be subject to standard criminal laws
- miketrin, on 10/11/2007, -13/+462 problems with your comment, first, do you know who becomes president if the vp and p are booted out? Speaker of the House... Nancy. pray she is ever put in that position.
secondly, you and I care, many diggers care, but the vast majority of americans don't give a rats ass about anything. These are the americans that think Paris Hilton and Brad Pitt are news, these are the americans that watch cnn or fox for news, these are the americans that couldn't tell you what year 9/11 happened, or who Nancy Pelosi are. These are the americans that don't know how much money we GIVE to israel. They are tuned out while tuned into american idol and deal or no deal.
They tried to impeach clinton for the lie he told, not that he actually got a BJ. Think about that, a little lie because he was probably embarrassed, while bush lies to us to start a war and what happens to him, ***** nothing! - insomniac8400, on 10/11/2007, -2/+33I'm very disappointed in the democrats. I assumed once the republicans lost the majority and the succession to the presidency, we were going to see Cheney and Bush impeached. Instead nothing is happening and those idiots just keep adding to the list of impeachable offenses. Maybe we will get lucky and Cheney or Bush will cheat on their wives and we will finally see an impeachment hearing.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28What the ***** does it take to get impeached in this ***** country!?!?! Cheney and Bush could barbeque live babies on the whitehouse lawn and people would still just be talking about it instead of doing something.. ARGGGGGGGH!
- ryanknapper, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28I'd feel safer if he was just *inside of* bars.
- Rossoneri22, on 10/11/2007, -4/+30How does he still get away with this *****? For *****'s sake do something to this guy!
- gamergod42, on 10/11/2007, -0/+26Mr. Cheney, USA.gov disagrees!
http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/Executive.shtml
Federal Executive Branch:
Executive Office of the President
* The President
* The Vice President
* The White House Home Page
* Offices within the Executive Office of the President
* The President's Cabinet - UnFriendlyFire, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25No reason to insult everyone. I read the article, I understood it and I dugg it so that others would see it.
- JavaWarlord, on 10/11/2007, -4/+27@simonln007
You use the impeachment process to remove an official from office.
Once he is out of office, it's over. That's like trying to fire someone after they quit... - arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22I thought that the President pro tempore was next after the VP, but I was wrong. However, whilst googling, I found the current order of presidential succession:
The Vice President Dick Cheney
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Robert Byrd
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson
Secretary of Defense Robert Gates
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
Secretary of the Interior Dirk Kempthorne
Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns
Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez
Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao
Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
Secretary of Transportation Mary E. Peters
Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman
Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson
Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff
Courtesy of http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0101032.html - arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22Exactly.
This is why this country no longer functions. I am ashmed to call myself an American. That we live in a time when those in the senate are more worried about their schedule than to impeach Bush and Cheney is an abomination. Bush lied to get this country into a war that has killed nearly 4,000 Americans and over 600,000 Iraqis and Afghanis (source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war#Casualties). Yet, Congress could care less because it'll "make too much work" for them, and the American people don't care because we need to put on a good face for this war we're fighting.
*****. This situation proves that our system of government no longer functions. A criminal, who should honestly be tried for crimes against humanity, sits in the White House and can't be touched. His cabinet commits further acts of crime by tossing the Constitution out the window, invading our privacy, detaining people without charge, torture, and more, and no one can touch them. The Attorney General fires District Attorneys for political reasons and Dubya locks down all White House staff members so that they can't even testify on the matter. So Dubya and everyone under him get to commit whatever crime they like and can get a way with it.
It's shameful; shameful beyond comprehension. - UtahApocalyse, on 10/11/2007, -1/+23wow what a douche
- WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21FTFA:
"The Vice President's office's refusal to comply with the executive order and the National Archives's request prompted the National Archives to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office."
So....they are going to ask ...Gonzales... for help.
OK.
I ... have decided ... to appoint myself absolute ruler over everyone who works in Washington D.C.!
My first absolute, incontrovertible executive ruling shall be to order that Cheney spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement at the Rikers Island Penitentiary in New York City, with no chance of parole.
The other treasonous criminals in the federal government, even including the do-nothing Congress that is guilty of criminal negligence in the face of treasonous acts by the White House, shall follow. - harvinator24, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19Since he is not in the executive branch, i guess he is in the judicial branch since he decides what is the law.
- Hermmunster, on 10/11/2007, -2/+21Cheney and Bush, from corporate America don't understand what abuse of power means. They figure they have the power they'll use it.
Cheney is as subject to the limitations of the executive branch of the government as any other department /section is. He's just an abuser of power that is going to try to get away with anything until someone proves him wrong.
This is why we don't want Gates nor Ballmer as President. They are rife with abuse of power and have been that way from day one. - gus2074, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20What a disgrace this is to such an well-respected and upstanding administration. ;)
- tpodr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20Waxman to Cheney:
"Is it the official position of the Office of the Vice President that your office exists in neither the executive nor legislative branch of government?
"a. If so, when and why did you adopt this view?
"b. Has your office asserted in any other contexts that its nonexistence in the executive branch justifies avoiding oversight or accountability?" - jeffeb3, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19Isn't the only real power the vice president has (besides in the case of dead-bush) is the leader of the Senate, which is the legislative branch?
Not sure why any of these even matters, I don't understand the distinction in the context of this classification stuff anyway. - jphudy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17People, we need to seriously consider that the US gov has taken on a totally new face. It's absolutely without any checks or boundaries. Personally, I don't really think that it is administration specific. (Although it seems that this administration has been completely packed with a bunch of conspirators.)
We need to micro-managing our congressmen and make sure our will is done. I think that the election of the executive is beyond what "the people" can control anymore. - Scogras, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17The real scary thing is that Cheney actually BELIEVES that these things are true. We need to give him a reality check by subpoenaing his ass. Explain who outed Valerie Plame and the whole Gonzales mess!
- CGBS6183, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15I as a Republican think this is one of the biggest dumbass, hypocrytical, craziest statements ever made in the course of American Politics. Guess he thinks it is apart of the IRS where they have exceptons to the exceptions. This is B.S. I would like an explanation and how that explanation is reasoned. The Bush administration has pissed off both sides of the spectrum as far as I am concerned.
- trer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14"The Vice President's office's refusal to comply with the executive order and the National Archives's request prompted the National Archives to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office. But the Justice Department has not followed up on the Archives's request."
So my questions is: Why hasn't the Justice Department followed up with the National Archive's request? Aren't we dealing with a National Security issue here? - kristov, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Or he thinks he can get away with it - oh wait they ARE getting away with it ALL.
- earthling3000, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13I hate to admit but the Democrats are a bunch of wimps. We need some urgent "spine transplant" on the whole democratic party. When are they going to do something about this whole mess?
- Bullwinkle1983, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Cheney seriously scares the ***** out of me. It's like he honestly thinks he has free reign to do whatever he wants (and seeing how spineless our congress is, maybe he does).
Either that, or he has an IQ below 50. - clorby, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11@ jeffeb3
@silencerider151
The Vice President of the United States is an office created in Article II of the United States Constitution, which is the section that deals only with the Executive Branch of Government. Simply because one has legislative duties (i.e., President of the Senate) does not mean that one is part of the Legislative Branch. The Vice President is a cabinet-level EXECUTIVE officer of the United States government. Look it up. Cheney is making this ***** up out of whole cloth. - EricMiIIer, on 07/10/2009, -0/+11I have never seen a politician more in need of impeachment, charged with treason, and executed more than this man.
***** the Man, long live the republic. - trer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12then why, as gamergod42 posted earlier above me, is this:
http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/Executive.shtml
Federal Executive Branch:
Executive Office of the President
* The President
* The Vice President
* The White House Home Page
* Offices within the Executive Office of the President
* The President's Cabinet - Pfhreak, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15"I love how these guys just make ***** up as they go along."
"Love" isn't quite the word to describe how I feel about it.
(Yes, I realize you were being sarcastic.) - Corvidae, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Cheney asserted that he had the authority to declassify documents, the same as the president.
So if he claims he is not a part of the executive branch, he's also claiming that he committed treason.
So either he can allow the investigation, and probably get impeached. Or he can keep trying this 'I'm not part of the executive branch" thing and get himself impeached and jailed. -
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