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Cheney Lies To High Schoolers About Debunked Iraq/al Qaeda Connection
thinkprogress.org — “Addressing about 100 wide-eyed Wyoming high school students learning about government and the political process, ” Vice President Cheney yesterday repeated one of the key fabrications that helped send the United States into war.
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- shawnfassett, on 10/11/2007, -18/+185George Washington - "I cannot tell a lie"
Richard Cheney - "I cannot tell the truth"- futureb, on 10/11/2007, -16/+96*Any Reporter Asks Any Question*
Richard Cheney - "Well you have to go back to 9/11..." - screamthenrun, on 10/11/2007, -86/+19you don't need to go back to 9/11... all you have to realize is that Al Quaida is in Iraq now.. and that we need to blow their brains out
- wiggles, on 10/11/2007, -86/+20I buried this for the wrong topic -- any links from thinkprogress.org is political opinion, not political news. News comes from CNN, BBC, NPR, ABC, CBS, AP, Reuters, New York Times, etc, so on, and so forth -- not an unabashedly left leaning website like thinkprogress.org.
- squinky86, on 10/11/2007, -102/+18@wiggles: agreed.
Additionally, Cheney never said anything about Hussein to the high schoolers in that comment or that the terrorists were tied to him. The terrorists were tied to Iraq, not specifically Hussein himself.
The fact of the matter is this: Clinton went to war against Melocavich in Bosnia for the civil rights of the many people that Melocavich killed. Bush went to war against Hussein for the civil rights of the many people that Hussein was killing. There's no difference here (except that Hussein killed many many more than Melocavich)- this is an issue of civil rights. The world is a much better place without Hussein or Melocavich.
Stop trying to put words into Cheney's mouth, thinkprogress. - fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -16/+95@squinky86
Are you serious? Do you even remember the entire years of 2002 and 2003? Bush's reason for going into Iraq was the oh-so-scary weapons of mass destruction, which, guess what, didn't exist. Of course Bush would say now that we went in to get rid of a dictator, but he is just trying to make you forget one of the most bold-faced set of lies ever told to the American public. Also, Bosnia is incomparable to Iraq. First, Clinton didn't lie about it, and second, it was minuscule in scale compared to Iraq. - Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -14/+69@fuzzmeister: Not to mention it pretty much succeeded and didn't result in a quagmire.
If Bush is so concerned about civil rights for the world's most oppressed people, why didn't he send troops to Darfur? - revenge7, on 10/11/2007, -11/+40@wiggles
Don't forget Fox News!
/sarcasm - rosefu, on 10/11/2007, -9/+24"The worst terrorist we had in Iraq was a guy named Abu Musab al Zarqawi, a Jordanian by birth; served time in a Jordanian prison as a terrorist, was let out on amnesty. … Then when we launched into Afghanistan after 9/11, he was wounded, and fled to Baghdad for medical treatment, and then set up shop in Iraq. So he operated in Jordan, he operated in Afghanistan, then he moved to Iraq."
So that explains why we went after Saddam Hussein!
Oh wait. - Jagdwulfe, on 10/11/2007, -14/+14@Squinky
We went to Bosnia and Kosovo to stop the so called ethnic cleansing. We have never proved this since to ethniclly cleanse you have to kill every man, woman, and child. In the Balkans the Serbs merely killed every male of fighting age to limit the number of potential recruits the Albanians had to raise. We know Saddam had chemical weapons afterall Ronnie Raygun gave them to him. The problem is we did not find them. Instead of admitting he went to war with bad intel Bush tried to spin it and that is where he ***** up big time. - scootypuff, on 10/11/2007, -11/+10Deadeye Dick rides again!
Gosh this man is good entertainment. Once you realize that he is just playing a schtick routine, he becomes delightfully entertaining. So is heir fuhrer! I mean, can anything match the funny factor of Bush trying to complete a sentence.
These two are a newer and improved Laurel and Hardy... Abbot and Costello... Cheech and Chong!
Once I realized the whole dog and pony show of our two party system serving their global masters, I REALLY started appreciating our current actors. How could you cast a more perfect pair than our sawed off villian of the Yosemite Sam genre with his Nazgul sidekick. If only they could have another term.
I swear that I have had more deep belly laughs from these two in the last few years than from any other source!
Thanks global elite! You really know how to put on a show! - js00, on 10/11/2007, -8/+32The war in iraq was not launched because of human rights violations. It was launched for a combination of the following reasons
- Stable Oil Supply
- Foothold to project power in middle east outside Saudi Arabia
- Corporate Profit
- An experiment to gauge future wars and how they should be fought by a modern army
- Taking out an enemy of Isreal
- A show of modern US military strength
- desire to spread "liberty" and "democracy" around the world (based on a misguided assumption that democracy will inspire pro-US sentiments)
- a distraction to the misguided effort to capture Bin Laden
- personal vendetta of administration members against Hussein
I don't even think I would include human rights violations as anything more than a surface justification. It was basically a collection of bad reasons to go to war, albeit rush to war without a cohesive postwar strategy, and we will be paying for it for years to come. - LakeshoreBaby, on 10/11/2007, -15/+12Clinton bombed Serbia because Milosovich was pumping more oil than OPEC allowed. He wanted to get out of debt with the corrupt IMF and World Bank. This would have lowered profits for OPEC and US oil companies. Jeez wiggles and squinky, get with the program.
- AriaStar, on 10/11/2007, -10/+6Whatta dick.
- TheUngod, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18@Shawnfassett
If Dick Cheney cannot tell the truth, he wouldn't say "I can not tell the truth", for that would be a truth. Dick, being a liar as he is, would also say "I cannot tell a lie", but of course he'd be lying about it. - ganjadude4391, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4why cant he be on the other end of a "hunting accident" any time soon???
- shadus, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Politics and Lies... I'm shocked!
It seems like thats all politicians on both sides do anymore. Lie, lie, and lie to cover your lies. - wiggles, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5@revenge7:
Note Fox wasn't in my list. - MeneerR, on 10/11/2007, -4/+20"Clinton bombed Serbia because Milosovich was pumping more oil than OPEC allowed. He wanted to get out of debt with the corrupt IMF and World Bank. This would have lowered profits for OPEC and US oil companies. Jeez wiggles and squinky, get with the program."
NO NO NO
We (europe) went to war with Serbia. The US just helped us out. We (europe) would have bombed Serbia either way. Off course, with the powerful military machine of the US on our side, it almost looked like the US did this solo. But it's important to realize that the US did not NEED or WANT this war. They were being loyal to their NATO partners.
So, why did Europe want to attack Serbia?
Well, because Yugoslavia was a mess after Tito (the dictator) died: it fell apart, very much like Iraq.
We had VN soldiers there, to keep the peace.
Then there was this incident. Dutch soldiers, under VN flag had to flee a bosnian town under military pressure of the Serbs, afterwhich Milosovich people murdered all the muslim males there. Several (UN branded / Dutch army) tanks were stolen.
VN looked stupid. Either the VN/Europe/Nato had to make a fist or Serbia would walk all over all the peace corps in the area.
We wanted stability and Serbia was out of control. So we picked side against Serbia (europe/nato were neutral at the time).
Clinton offered to help us out. But we (European nato partners) would have gone to war with Serbia, even without the US help.
So, let me REPHRASE THIS ONCE AGAIN:
The war on Serbia, was a EUROPEAN WAR.
I don't like the US military policy any more than the next guy, but the war against Serbia was an honest war for a clear reason.
It was fought, not because of the human rights violations, but because of the proximity of the conflict to Europe. When Serbia stepped out of line, it just made it easier to pick sides and stabilize.
This also brings me to the Iraq issue. Either America should pick the side of the weakest, or they should split the country up.
What you can not do is try to make these different cultures play along. These kids are never going to share their toys.
Often, when you have a dictator in a country, he/she is there, because its the only form of government that actually keeps those specific cultures from killing each other. When the dictator dies (Tito, Hussein) => civil war.
Thirdly, there are no terrorists in Iraq, there never were. Its a civil war. They are killing Americans because the American occupation is preventing them from killing each other. You wouldn't call the soldiers of the American civil war terrorists, and you shouldn't call the brainwashed blood-hungry mob in Iraq a terrorist.
It is _NOT_ religious fundamentalism, like it is with Al Queda and the Taliban.
Its way more like North-Ireland, where the Catholics and the Protestants try to kill each other and British soldiers.
Then again, some people call them terrorists too. I dunno, what to call it. Its just teenagers killing teenagers in civil war. - tiberone, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9"*Any Reporter Asks Any Question*
Richard Cheney - "Well you have to go back to 9/11...""
Note that this also holds true for Rudy Giuliani. - skulljar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Dick Cheney: "Now kids, I'd like to introduce you to a great friend of mine. His name is Mark Foley. He is available for tutoring."
- OBKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3If Bush-Cheney aren't held accountable for their crimes, it will be the end of the American Republic. They want to force war upon America. War IS the "police state". In a state of war, they have the excuse to do anything. Have you all not seen this yet!?
Bush-Cheney, and all the 9/11 war profiteers, must be brought to justice.
You have been warned. - erikph7, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0@scootypuff
I too am amazed these guys get the respect they do from people -- I guess a blue tie and having a side kick that grins like something is missing upstairs goes a long way in Washington among CONgress. Amazing to think we have a cheerleader, and a drunk running this country --- what in the world happened? It's like a Twilight Zone episode on steroids and about as wacky as Franz becoming the Governator. The not so hilarious part is seeing my friends get their brains blown out in Iraq. I've lost a great b-ball buddy two years ago, and recently my neighbors grandson.
- futureb, on 10/11/2007, -16/+96*Any Reporter Asks Any Question*
- obliviousfool, on 10/11/2007, -16/+41Listening to Bush or Cheney these days is like listening to a broken record.
Let me know when they say something NEW!- Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -11/+12It's more like Keno, actually:
http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/images/war.239.gif - behn1220, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9These days?
- Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -11/+12It's more like Keno, actually:
- AndyO3000, on 10/11/2007, -14/+59Cheney has no need for facts. He's a deeply flawed and arrogant man. He should be impeached, the sooner the better.
- CannedMango, on 10/11/2007, -6/+16What sort of world are we living in where we hand so much power to men, who prove over and over again to be lunatics with no moral ground and will lie through their teeth, and we just sit back and leave them be? Impeach these guys and force them to resign their posts. Take away their power and make the Senate and House do their jobs.
- Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Like an 8 yr old will call "*****"
- theNazz, on 10/11/2007, -12/+17Battery operated Dick still lying about the Iraq invasion?
I'm shocked. - mynameistim, on 10/11/2007, -7/+20I would LOVE to have a question and answer session with the prez or vp that was broadcast nationally.
- nblsavage, on 10/11/2007, -6/+18If that happened I'd expect to hear "I don't recall" repeated endlessly.
- Kikinou, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15Are you kidding? They'd never allow anything that wasn't pre-scripted. Even in the so-called "debates" it's all canned crap, for which they have answers memorized. You want to see how it should be done, look at France. Man the debates were brutal, no holds barred, and they couldn't get away with some BS answers, the questioner pressed them and made them answer the question. The town hall sessions had very hostile people with unscripted questions, with followups at that. Dare to dream of a day like that here.
- Derrekito, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Hell even British parliament is amusing, I love watching the prime minister get bashed constantly while in the room debating.
- slopartdotcom, on 10/11/2007, -13/+32He hates our freedoms.
FUN DICK TRIVIA:
Q: Why did Norman Mineta's testimony to the 9/11 Commission about Cheney directing the attacks not make it into the 9/11 Commission Report?
A: The Commission was compromised from the start, stacked with members of the Bush Crime Family.
Q: Why did he not talk to the police for 12 + hours after shooting his pal in the head?
A: He was quite drunk and trying to get somone else to take the blame!- wakananda, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1RE mineta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUqbOgFiPDI&mode=related&search=
Follow the money.
- wakananda, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1RE mineta:
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -9/+9Looks like we all agree who the biggest Dick in the White House is.
- baseballpm, on 10/11/2007, -9/+12It was just no child left behind...being no child left unlied to
- Jagdwulfe, on 10/11/2007, -20/+8Clinton lied and Sudanese died!
- bigturns, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@Jagdwulfe, "Clinton was a bad man who got a blow job and, and... he was bad and his wife is ugly..."
Man, shut the ***** up. Clinton hasn't been in office for nearly 7 years. Your man, W, is the ***** whose running amok these days. Stick with the program kidd.
- bigturns, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@Jagdwulfe, "Clinton was a bad man who got a blow job and, and... he was bad and his wife is ugly..."
- IslandDog, on 10/11/2007, -36/+12Thinkprogress......LMAO. And you liberals complain about Fox News!.
- nhinsch, on 10/11/2007, -6/+19So are you saying what Cheney said is correct?
- LastVisibleDog, on 10/11/2007, -15/+6@nhinsch: "So are you saying what Cheney said is correct?"
Yes, what Cheney said is 100% true - ThinkProgress are extremist nit wits.
Think for yourself - do some research - stop acting like extremist tools waiting with bated breath for your marching orders from your extremist handlers
There is a lot to dislike about this administration but that is not an excuse to become a brain-dead extremist parrot. - Iconwolf, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Yes, from what I read what he said was technically true. The trick here is he presented the facts (and/or omitted certain facts) in such a manner as to imply they meant something else. This is not a new technique. I've seen it used by both parties with increasing regularity the past few years. The implication is clearly a blatant falsehood, but the facts themselves are not. It's like a speech I saw Gore give not long after Katrina, when he strongly implied by the way he phrased his facts that is was Bush who was at fault for all the buses that were under water in N.O. It's still dishonest, though, any way you want to cut it.
- bigturns, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Yo, dickfor, I mean, @IslandDog, thinkprogress is a website, whose average daily audience is less than 1/10,000 of Fux'd unNews. Comparing the two is akin to suggesting the school yard bully's influence over the playground is the same as Cheney's hegemony over the truth.
- wakananda, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Confronting lies is, indeed, "extremist" in a literal sense, when the middle ground is bloated with lies and corruption - and the silence of the dead.
***** you nazis for shilling for this destroyer of the Republic. Future generations will view you as complicit in a monsterous betrayal of humanity and democracy. Free people everywhere should steel their wills for the messy work of putting an end to criminals like these - whomever or wherever they may be.
- iNezy13, on 10/11/2007, -15/+5Oh hey! This has NEVER happened before!
Wow I wonder what's next? Maybe the troop surge won't work?
Jon Stewart '08 baby- andrewgreve, on 10/11/2007, -15/+11Correction: Ron Paul '08
- scabbers, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4Hell in a hand basket.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13He probably actually believes his own lies.
- AeonTorpor, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5I think that's a clinical pointer toward insanity. With what the ***** they're doing to this country that doesn't surprise me in the least bit.
- HalFTW, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6Imagine how good it would be if the presenter from To Catch a Predator walked in and started talking to him about how he is perverting the minds of the young children.
- craka, on 10/11/2007, -10/+6oh you crazy Neo-Libs and your Thinkprogress..........crazy kids
- aadyss, on 10/11/2007, -14/+7thinkprogress and slate. O.K. valley girls. Pick up your pom-poms and do your dance for us.
- stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5While you may try to "sissify" Think Progress, the content of the article still stands. What was that you said about "pom poms"? Maybe they are really your own afterall?
- useraccess, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!
- LastVisibleDog, on 10/11/2007, -15/+5This pure left wing extremist propaganda from the left wing extremist propaganda website "ThinkProgress" (i.e. "ThinkTool")
What the Vice President said was completely true. Zarqawi did go to Afghanistan after 9/11 - Zarqawi was wounded and Zarqawi did flee to Iran and then Iraq. Zarqawi was killed in Iraq - left wing nit wits. The quote from ThinkTool, I mean ThinkProgress is off by a few years. Cheney was not connecting Zarqawi to Saddam, ThinkNitWits, he was pointing out this terrorist was in Iraq.
When you are blinded by hate, you will say and accept just about anything - be very careful with ThinkProgress offers you some kool-aid.
Get a clue left wing nit wits - you are making fools out of your collective selves.- stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12"Left-Wing Extremist"
What are you? A child?
Please accurately highlight what is soooo "extremist" about Think Progress. And try thinking for yourself as to why you would need to say such a thing. I find it particularly interesting when the Right Wing accuses anything inconvenient to their own ***** agenda as being, "liberal" or "extremists". Seems to me, you hate the truth and somehow in your sick hate filled head you need to combine the two... but I digress.
The only extremists we see today in our government are Right Wingers... no left wing extremists, NOT ONE! But man o' man, you need that talking point to justify your own extremist views, don't you? Kinda makes right wingers look somewhat moderate in the eyes of the public when you keep claiming there are left wing extremists on the other side...
To a fanatical closed minded, politically brainwashed lemming, everyone looks kinda extreme. Your problem is, you think everyone should be just like you.... left wing, right wing, you in particular, suck. - Terr01, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Zarqawi was in the parts of Iraq that we helped keep Saddam out of. It's ludicrous to think deposing Saddam would shrink those areas.
- playerZero, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3when you are blinded by hate, you also play really unclever syllable replacement games. ThinkTool? dude that's not even the right number of syllables. you must be a RETHUGLICAN! go read LittleGreenDoodieHeads. i'm gonna go see what's up at *****. so sick of these sheeple.
- stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12"Left-Wing Extremist"
- 7shadesofcrazy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9Can somebody please start a site dedicated to publishing and counting all the lies of Mr. Cheney? Heck, there should just be a site dedicated to all political lies.
I don't have the time, nor do I want to be declared an enemy combatant. - totorototoro, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Did he mention the WMDs too? :p
- jmbryant, on 10/11/2007, -8/+4The problem with Bush and Cheney is that they relied on what a Clinton appointee told them about WMDs in Iraq.
- 7shadesofcrazy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Regardless, the idiots would still be responsible. Now, cut the rhetoric and defend your statement. Is that the complete story? What about the special CIA taskforce created by Cheney? Can Neo-cons do anything other than regurgitate biased claims off of Fox News? Why have Americans abandoned critical thinking?
- totorototoro, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Ahmed Chalabi was a Clinton appointee?? Damn, I learn something on Digg every day :P
- 7shadesofcrazy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Regardless, the idiots would still be responsible. Now, cut the rhetoric and defend your statement. Is that the complete story? What about the special CIA taskforce created by Cheney? Can Neo-cons do anything other than regurgitate biased claims off of Fox News? Why have Americans abandoned critical thinking?
- weightman, on 10/11/2007, -9/+5Buried for inaccurate. First of all, a mistake isn't a fabrication and second there was plenty of evidence of Saddam's WMDs starting with the fact he used them before, the UN found and tagged them after the Gulf War, he then kicked the UN out before they were all destroyed, and therefore as far as we knew they could still exist. Hindsight isn't even 20/20 in this case. A lack of evidence is not proof. Just because there are no WMDs now or they haven't yet been found doesn't mean they weren't or even aren't there or that they weren't moved and no number of reports changed that fact.
Fabrication is way too strong a word to receive any credibility. Its another paranoid delusion of the left terrified of any threat to their program of equalization- making everyone poor through taxes, and the liberals chasing the illusion of making the rich drop to middle class to help raise the poor to join them. It is the taxes they think will help the poor that turn them to wage slaves. - thedarkrabbit, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7He's lied to Americans since he got in office... why would he stop now?
- adamnyc, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5This man just keeps spewing the same lies over and over. Sad.
- atariman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5This administration kinda reminds me of the Richard Pryor skit where he gets caught cheating on his wife, and the trick is to just keep denying it. Pretty funny stuff (Pryor that is). As for this administration, well, the biggest lies are protected by public incredulity. We have a general public totally obsessed with American Idol and Paris Hilton going to jail that most (not all) do not pay attention to the stuff that really matters.
- LGgeek, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7It doesn't matter , high school students don't know where Iraq is and they can't spell it.
- stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1I went to high school, I knew where Iraq was and how to spell it. I also learned about pre-Iraq... so didn't my whole History class. Some don't know.... "some" does not make all.
- icewater, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Cheney is really a scary idiot because he's in a position of power. He should be a dishwasher, in my opinion. I sure hope some of his staff are reading these glowing opinions of this coward.
- bigturns, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2You've got it right, @icewater. Dicky boy is a coward. Dicky boy is a product of multiple deferments of the war in Viet Nam yet he blissfully sends our bad ass soldiers to die for his/their greedy profits.
To echo Cheney's comments from the Senate floor, "***** You (Dick Cheney), ***** You"!
- bigturns, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2You've got it right, @icewater. Dicky boy is a coward. Dicky boy is a product of multiple deferments of the war in Viet Nam yet he blissfully sends our bad ass soldiers to die for his/their greedy profits.
- Dustin00, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Yeah, he has a great respect for US history and counts on our military to go blindly into any situation our corporations tell our leaders will make them rich.
- minitrue1984, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Iraq had thier day in a Federal Court and was, "....among those liable for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks".
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-05-07-911-judge-awards_x.htm
Looks like Saddam and Iraq are partly guilty of 9/11 to me - and in the eyes of the Justice System , too. - ccrook, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Buried inaccurate. ThinkProgress is hardly a bastion of truth. In fact, you'll notice they cite their claims with their own articles and then when they cite the intelligence committee it gives a page number, but only links to the committees website, not the document - rather shady, no? Why not give us a link to the document? Afterall, they are declassified portions.
I won't stand for shady "journalism".- spurtle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5The doc is here:
http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
P. 109 of the document, or 112 of the pdf.
Also from the page:
"Post war information from an al-Qa'ida detainee indicated that Saddam's regime 'considered al-Zarqawi an outlaw' and blamed hisnetwork, operating in Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq, for two bombings in Baghdad."
Edit: Quote from Think Progress:
"Saddam Hussein attempted, unsuccessfully, to locate and capture al-Zarqawi and…the regime did not have a relationship with, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi."
- spurtle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5The doc is here:
- otep, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1
.......Clearly, Wyoming hates America. - nycmac247, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6
What he should have said:
"We are setting up forward bases in Iraq so we have Iran covered when Jesus returns to Israel." - dlaffoon, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Hmm I just had a thought: ***** Cheney
- moin1097, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1That's your one for this year. You handlers don't want you to do that too much. Otherwise you wont buy their books.
- 4wheel, on 10/11/2007, -7/+6Sometimes it amazes me how truly stupid you sheeple are. If it weren't for someone else telling you what to think, you just wouldn't. Anti-American idiots.
- ThDecider, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Ok, first of all there is a difference between being anti Bush-Cheney, and being anti-American. The American people constitute America, right? And last time I checked a very small minority approves of the actions of our current administration, so doesn't that make, Bush-Cheney anti-American? I love my country. I don't love the people who are running it right now. Secondy, People are stupid because they are angry about their government lying to them to justify a war with no clear objective? So does that mean the intelligent thing is to just let them do whatever the ***** they want and not care? Sounds like you are the one who is used to being told what to think.
- stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Well.... there ya go. Dick sinks to a deeper low. No shame at all....
- moin1097, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2You're still an idiot.
- stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1@moin1097,
Why? Because I am not brainwashed and support traitors like you do? No son, you are the idiot, you are just too stupid or blind to see it. Sorry....
- briman4031, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Yeah... you're all dumb-asses. I'll take any site named think progress as gospel.
- starguy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2The WMDs were found, in South Carolina.
They are being manufactured by the US at the Savannah River Site, which has been operating since the 1950s and refined tritium to go into nuclear weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). The US has more WMDs than any other country in the world. Pointing the finger at someone else and saying "you have WMDs" was rather extremely hypocritical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_River_Site - starguy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2NUCLEAR SEE... Where are the WMDs located around the world: http://www.youtube.com/v/bZ1bnq_oU94
- Osjpr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Isn't this good enough reason for impeachment? An outright, unequivocal lie.
- kilofox, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"Digg.com ID: pitviper, a.k.a. Netscape.com ID: njpitney, a.k.a. Reddit.com ID: pitviper, a.k.a. Nico Pitney, the Assistant Editor of ThinkProgress and the Progress Report at the Center for American Progress. In spite of the fact Nico worked on Gov. Howard Dean's presidential campaign, when The American Progress Action Fund describes itself as "a nonpartisan organization," I'm sure they're talking about Nico too."
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Pitviper is one of Soro's assclowns. ThinkProgress is another propoganda outfit disguised as grass roots. Anyone who believes a word of this is a "useful idiot".
- outsidethinkbox, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Actually, I applaud him. He taught these high schoolers a fine lesson. One of the most important facts to remember all throughout life: Politicians lie out of their asses!
- DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Fascists !
- wshwe, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Bush/Cheney lie repeatedly.
- hittnrun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I just LOOOOOOOVE how the VP toys with you moonbats.
I am sure you losers told your parents you would find a job this week and still haven't done it. LIARS!!!!
Oops, gotta run,
lots of music needs stealin', lots of dope needs smokin'
Peace - mikeyeah, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Did cheney happen to mention no-bid contracts to corporations that the bush administration are in bed with?
- flipmoe, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I'm honestly shocked that this man is still allowed out in public. Drunkenly shooting a man in the face, personally benefiting from no-bid government war contacts to his old company, outing a covert CIA operative...
Seriously, shouldn't he be in jail or something? - rorster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Al-Queda themselves established the link between Al-Queda and Iraq, by starting a branch called "Al-Queda In Iraq".
They admitted the link themselves.
How can you debunk something that even the backwards idiots that you aid and comfort admit is true? - bshock, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Impeach Bush! Impeach Cheney! Impeach them now -- before it's too late for all of us!
- airplane76, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0This man deserves the same torture he is so happy to dispense to others.
- gatorgreenwell, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Note: This is a clearly stated connection from the CLINTON era:
06 November 1998
TEXT: US GRAND JURY INDICTMENT AGAINST USAMA BIN LADEN
New York -- A U.S. Federal Grand Jury in New York on Nov. 5 issued an
indictment against Usama Bin Laden alleging that he and others engaged
in a long-term conspiracy to attack U.S. facilities overseas and to
kill American citizens.
The indictment noted that Al Qaeda, Bin Laden's international
terrorist group, forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in
Sudan and with the government of Iran and with its associated group
Hezballah to "work together against their perceived common enemies in
the West, particularly the United States."
Additionally, the indictment states that Al Qaeda reached an agreement
with Iraq not to work against the regime of Saddam Hussein and that
they would work cooperatively with Iraq, particularly in weapons
development.......
http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/indict1.pdf
http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/prladen.pdf -
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