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- ghm101, on 10/12/2007, -12/+180When is Cheney going to understand that, in a democracy ...
"it is OK for people to disagree with you, it doesn't make them your enemy, this is the case even if they vote against you"
make him write it on the black board 100 times - lava, on 10/12/2007, -13/+165Ha, somehow I feel that the Bush re-election was more of a victory for Al-Qaeda than this could ever be.
- soudak, on 10/12/2007, -12/+107I completely agree with ghm101. It's getting really annoying having one party or another claiming anything that isn't aligned with their party is "un-American" or against America.
- Pestilence, on 10/12/2007, -9/+96*****, I don't think invading Iraq ever WAS demonstrably 'the will of the American people'.
- Drahknon, on 10/12/2007, -13/+80Where's Osama... Dick?
- Pestilence, on 10/12/2007, -5/+66If there ever were 'high approval ratings', they were based on LIES about WMDs.
- canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -9/+69to quote the jogger in new orleans, "***** you mr. cheney!"
i know that adds nothing to the discussion, but this guy sickens me. i guess that means i'm an al-qaeda sympathiser that hates freedom. - youareretarded, on 10/12/2007, -5/+64Quote: "It was. It had very high approval ratings when it happened. Then the people got bored with the same coverage on the 24 hour news stations and support for the whole thing waned. Then the real fighting began."
Yeah it was boredom that caused the American people to disagree with the war, not the fact that no real progress has been made nor the fact that none of the reasons we went to war have proved true and it sure in hell isn't because everything thing the government told us about how long it would take or how easy it would be has come true.
Give me a break! - maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -5/+56LIES, not intelligence failures
- KenLin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+54Famous quotes from Dick Cheney:
"I had other priorities in the sixties than military service." –on his five draft deferments, April 5, 1989
"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." --March 16, 2003
"We know he's been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." --March 16, 2003
"In Iraq, a ruthless dictator cultivated weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them. He gave support to terrorists, had an established relationship with al Qaeda, and his regime is no more." –Nov. 7, 2003
"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." -- on the Iraq insurgency, June 20, 2005 - mu1ti, on 10/12/2007, -11/+55Typical rantings of a madman coming to terms with losing power.
- gronne, on 10/12/2007, -10/+50Good point. This vendetta war in Iraq distracting us away from Al Qaeda is a victory for them isn't it? Haven't heard any good news out of Afghanistan recently have we?
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -6/+45It won't matter where you move if Cheney wins the office of the president.
- Ruckgesicht, on 10/12/2007, -7/+45People keep saying "At least Bush can't get elected again in 2008."
And then I remember Cheney. If the words "Cheney administration" are ever uttered by a press secretary I swear I will move within the month. The idea sends a shiver down my spine. It would make Bush look like Gandhi. - bruceyeah, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37lava is right.
I can't find the sources right now, but a Pentagon report confirmed that Al Qaeda wanted Bush to win, that's why Bin Laden released that tape recording in the week before the last election.
The USA may think themselves the most powerful country in the world, but when it comes to this stuff they are being played like a fiddle. Stupid politicians will talk war and terror to save their own arses but in the end it's innocent people who will die as result. - totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39the sleaziest part of this story is that Cheney made the comments with full knowlege the British were going to go public with the foiled terrorist plot soon after:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060811/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_terror_plot_analysis
Disgraceful. - acroyear2, on 10/12/2007, -11/+44Considering how little the average American person knows about this conflict, I think information about our history with al Qaeda and Bin Laden is far more disturbing.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/binladen_cia.html - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35Yeah I agree... i've had 5 years of rationalising my arguments about these guys, and I'm so bored of it.
***** Dick Cheney, ***** the PNAC, ***** halliburtons stock, ***** Tamiflu. Elect someone who represents the people and STOP ELECTING BILLIONAIRES AND PUPPETS! - youareretarded, on 10/12/2007, -8/+36Once a dick always a dick!
- pats1237, on 10/12/2007, -10/+36What a scumbag
He can go to hell - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+34Do I get this right - if democracy still works in the US of A, that means Al Qaeda are winning???
WTF, Dick?
I have a better explanation why and how Al Qaeda are winning: http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/08/081006.html# - fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29Or maybe you'll get dugg down for not using the reply function to post a comment that doesn't make sense outside of a reply.
- Clbck, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28By Democracy being successful and the people voting in who they want the terrorists are winning!
- ne0shell, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30This is hilarious, the loudest bitching about L-mans defeat are the neocons. I can understand, he was a good pet and nobody likes breaking in a new one.
1. They see this as the Democrats focusing towards populist rather than liberalism and that's scary to the agenda.
2. They see a majority growing who no longer fall for the BS.
Cheney and Co are afraid and the worst part of that is wondering what they will do next to get the train back on the tracks..... - Ruckgesicht, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25I've never heard of a bulletproof jacket that shoots old people.
- jetpig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22if iraq is the new vietnam, then afghanistan has turned into the new korea. it's fallen to back page news and noone keeps track of it even though the fighting there is as rough (or even more so) than in iraq.
- Pestilence, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Step 1. As secretary of defense, recommend the military increase logistics services contracts. Step 2. Become CEO of the largest defense logistics services contractor - get stock options. Step 3. Become Vice President and help start a war. Step 4. PROFIT!
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views05/1117-22.htm - popmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24you never know. in two years Bush may have his amendments in place to become the dictator he wanted to grow up to be.
- youareretarded, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24@thatsiebguy
You keep believing that and maybe it might come true.
//rolls eyes - Daisuke, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21tzon: I doubt anybody will be "weak on defense" after 9/11, but there will probably be a candidate that respects the Constitution. Remember that: just because someone promises to uphold the supreme law of the land doesn't mean that they're weak on defense.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -9/+26When people vote and chose one candidate over another, that is the will of the people. Mr. Cheney, go ***** yourself.
- ihatepeterh, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21there was no misquoting here. you're just retarded. stop being a retard. i'm sick of seeing you saying that all your right-wing warmonger heroes are being misquoted. they're not. get your head out of your ass.
- deesnutz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Here we go again with more ***** lies from Dick Cheney. Cheney needs to get it straight. Per Cheney ...
'in this conflict, and the al Qaeda types, the they clearly are betting on the proposition that ultimately they can break the will of the American people".
The only group who is breaking the will of the American people are George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and the Republican lead congress. Because it is the will of the American people that we stop this ***** (distraction of a) war in Iraq and to actually go after and kill the terrorist.
Instead, our troops are bogged down in Iraq (in the middle of the Iraqi civil war). And all it is doing is generating more terrorist in other countries against the United States. If you would notice the little fact of yesterday's foiled plot in London (against the liquid bombers) is that they were most, if not all, British citizens.
Maybe, al Qaeda might of funded them, but they were not citizens (descendants or originally from but not citizens) of any Middle East countries like those on 9/11. Why? Because George W. Bush and his damn war gave al Qaeda what they wanted. A cause to rally and hate Americans for their occupation of Iraq.
Cheney and his comments are lies. All the Bush administration has done is put Americans in a perpetual war and create more terrorist against America.
So, while you go on your next flight, and have to throw away your water bottle, hair gel and perfume. Ask yourself this. Are they making the illegal aliens (or terrorist for that matter) crossing the borders every day to do the same? What a crock of *****.
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Remember, you can't trust a Dick with a gun (or at all for that matter).
http://www.democratgiftshop.com/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi/571511948/angryintheusa/369032 - flipside3, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21If Cheney's against it, then it must be good for America! Hear that Lieberman? Stop playing around with this independent bid stuff... just listen to your inner Dick and run Republican. You know you want to. I hear there's an opening in Sugarland, since Delay ran away to Virginia.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Send the bastard to Gitmo along with the rest of the terrorists whether they are Islamists, Al Quedas, or Republicans.
- PatrickX, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22I hate Dick Cheney
- fredrated, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19Progress? Yeah, if going backwards is progress.
And how come whenever the mesdia talks about 9/11 they only talk about the terrorist attacks? How come they never talk about the good things that happened on that day? We need to hear less about the attacks and more about what good happened then. - tuna1, on 10/12/2007, -9/+22To Dick:
STFU. - mww2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Whatever "weak on defense" even means.
- Willmonwah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Do you really think they hate our freedoms and civil liberties? Does that make any sense? How do we insult them by our actions in our own country?
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14also remember that getting people to vote for you isn't a matter of convincing them of the "rational reasons to do so", but rather a matter of evoking fear, or hatred for your opposition.
Unless us (the people who read) educate the apathetic masses (and there are apathetic masses) & prompt them to vote, we will continue to fall into this "weak on defence","with us or with the terrists" ***** rhetoric.
Save your money from your 9-5 job and pool it to run some TV spots... include in the TV spots a link so that others can download and run the TV spots.. its surprisingly cheap and very very effective. - fredrated, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Cheney needs to be brought up on war crimes charges, the sooner the better.
- Willmonwah, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17@JK1150: Sure, it's a biased source, but how is it inaccurate?
- jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Why should we bother with filing charges. I say we hold him as an enemy combatant in the prisons of his own making in Eastern Europe. It's a good thing I don't run the show because I'm a liberal that's not afraid of hurting people. ;)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering - thebadrash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12hmm... except that the 'west' have backed a hell of a lot of dodgy people to fight our proxy wars in the past. I think it was pretty clear that this was a case of 'your enemy's enemy' rather than us really being friendly with the founders of Al Qaeda. Look at the people we backed in Iran, Chile, Argentina, Iraq, etc etc.
- megaloid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12U.S. troops have a higher casualty rate in Afghanistan than in Iraq.
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Cheny cares about the will of the American people?
Was this before or after he raped and robbed us blind through Halliburton?
The real reason we haven't caught Bin Laden yet is because Cheney is actually Bin Laden in disguise... - diggnatious, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12The 90.5% number is specious. The real issue is not "when Republikans and Democrats disagreed" its how and when Joe voted and stood against Democratic principles. That 9.5% included his unqualified support for Bush Administration objectives and against our freedoms. This is why voters rejected him and it is a foreshadowing of what will happen in November. Now isn't it interesting that the ink is barely dry on the election results and they've started up the Terror Warnings machine, which hadn't been heard from in over 1.5 years! Wassup with that?
- ihatepeterh, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13jer2eydevil88 just became my favorite person of the night.
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