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- AlwaysAwake, on 05/07/2008, -6/+25The criminals we call Authorities have been busy, busy preparing to crush civil disobedience, when the attack on Iran signals the official start of World War III. So far it is being waged elsewhere in the Middle East and Africa as an unofficial war. Pretend it isn't happening now, and maybe you won't notice it when you and yours are incinerated. Think of it as free cremation.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -6/+15Are all the posters here insane or just plain ignorant?!
Similarities between both wars = both US lead invasions against a smaller weaker country, where opposition (to US) leaders sometimes hid across national lines to avoid attacks (wouldn't you if you were fighting a super power?). Both wars were expected to be over in a matter of weeks but dragged on and on and on. Both were unpopular. Both had well documented war crimes by the states that tarnished their reputation.
Differences = everything else. North Vietnamese was a highly organized, relatively well equipped, and numbers far surpassed that of the American standing army. They were devoted to total warfare, from the simplest peasant to the general in the field. American dead numbered around 60k in Vietnam, US might be at 3k (conservative guess) so far. In fact, its becoming that more American soldiers are dying from suicide (themselves do it, not by terrorists, or other name you would like to name these partisan type soldiers). I could keep going and going. We didn't see any footage of the leader of Cambodia saying "death to America!" or "we will wipe south Vietnam off the map!"
Its easy to see similarities and say "OPPZ SAEM THING AGAIN LOL!!! HISTERY BE CERCULARZ" But it isn't, real answers come from seeing the situation for what it is, not dismissing it as a 'oh here we go again.'
neat video by the way... - spaceman84, on 05/08/2008, -1/+9The current figure is at over 4000 deaths. The 3000 mark was passed quite a while ago.
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -2/+10History IS circular.
Sure there are good reasons to invade hostile countries that pose a threat to anyone else, as long as it's not for the WRONG reasons, and the process isn't a complete deception of everyone accept the ones near the helms.
War and killings are a part of history, and human life, but are uncalled for, especially when you kill the ones you are trying to save.
You get my point.
The point suggested in the topic is obvious, to me at least.
No need to get all wired, no one wants a war, people are just tired of being lied to, and no one wants to die in vain, no mater what your creed is.
Dead Kennedys, Neil Young, that's just great. - Todash19, on 05/07/2008, -3/+11Dugg for the DK reference
- americangoy, on 05/08/2008, -3/+9 Cambodia = Iran ?
NO.
Because Cambodia was invaded by our allies, the South Vietnamese Army, with US air support.
But in Iraq, the 100% Shia Iraqi Army, which is PRO IRAN (Iran is also Shia, btw), will NOT invade Iran. In fact, they will do the opposite - they will start shooting at OUR troops.
http://americangoy.blogspot.com/2008/03/iran-thank ... - flashingcurser, on 05/08/2008, -1/+6Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is no Pol pot or Saddam Hussein. He was a college professor and an engineering doctorate. If we leave Iraq it is very unlikely that he will kill a quarter of his population. As much as we would like to make him into a brutal thug, he simply isn't. Pompous politician I'll give you. The Israel rhetoric keeps him popular with the uneducated masses (and Ayatollahs), similar rhetoric is true of politicians everywhere.
- trumpydumpy, on 05/08/2008, -2/+7Yeah, you're right. Had those national "guards" actually went to college, they might have realized that killing innocent civilians is wrong. Oh BTW I found a link to your families genealogy page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll - wildbillhick, on 05/08/2008, -0/+5the horror..... the horror....
- inactive, on 05/07/2008, -7/+11I'm pretty sure WWIII is happening all around us, but no one is acknowledging it, nor calling it by it's name.
But since NWO leaders can't declare war on themselves, it's probably something else this time around. - Spottswood, on 05/08/2008, -0/+4Oh no! Not charisma! George Bush's arch nemesis! (couldn't resist)
You can't seriously think that Iran is a threat to the US or Israel, can you? Thats like thinking, even in hindsight that Iraq was a threat. As flashingcurser says, he's appealing to his public for support. Just like Clinton threatening to nuke them is appealing for support from nut jobs who think they're a threat. Billions of people hate America. Bombing the tip of the iceberg isnt going to change anything. - hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+5troll whore
- sanman, on 05/08/2008, -2/+5Dr Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor under Carter, was a prime force in arming the Khmer Rouge, which committed a genocide in Cambodia, killing over 3 million people.
Ironically today, the vile Brzezinski is the one hollering loudest against attacking Iran. One thing I'm sure of is that Brzezinski's agenda is NOT peaceful. - trumpydumpy, on 05/08/2008, -7/+9Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'.
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drummin'.
Four dead in Ohio. - DeviantDragon, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2What's next? You sometimes say?
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -5/+7Show us a footage of leader of Iran calling for "Wiping ANY country off them map" then. Can you?
That infamous mistranslation is known as black propaganda, and media in US have mastered it long time ago. People like you help spread this lie by repeating it, which doesn't make it true at all.
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"The Guardian's Jonathan Steele cites four different translations, from professors to the BBC to the New York Times and even pro-Israel news outlets, in none of those translations is the word "map" used. The closest translation to what the Iranian President actually said is, "The regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time," or a narrow relative thereof. In no version is the word "map" used or a context of mass genocide or hostile military action even hinted at. "
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steel ... - Todash19, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2"Sweet!! And I thought my mom was a whore."
I actually dugg that up. Even if my mom WAS a whore, I would never be able to admit it.
That took balls, man. Digg the guy up for that. - hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2he totally deserves it hehehe
- jontalisman, on 05/07/2008, -7/+9Sounds more like Iraq to me, but dugg just the same. Two bad the Democratic leadership has been to cowardly to stand up to Bush like they did to Nixon.
- Spottswood, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2dont think he was trying to refute what u said, just correcting u
- futureb, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2I am so sorry everyone.
*cries* - angusm, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2Is it Bad Analogy Week again? As far as I can see, the reasoning goes "Iran is a neighboring country who we might just fight with because we're hip-deep in a war we don't know how to win, therefore Iran is just like Cambodia."
From the point of view of the Bush administration, it would be comforting if Iran was like Cambodia in the '70s. Cambodia then was a tiny, desperately-poor peasant economy, whose government was sympathetic to the US. Moreover, the US could call on the ARVN and the Cambodian army to do a lot of their fighting for them. Iran, on the other hand, is a populous and relatively prosperous modern industrial nation with a parliamentary democracy (for some values of democracy). The government isn't sympathetic to the US, the opposition is militarily negligible, and US 'allies' in Iraq aren't going to invade Iran just because GWB asks them nicely. I suppose the Israelis might be up for some bombing and strafing, but they're far too canny to put any boots on the ground. US options at this point are pretty much limited to bombing the bejeesus out of Iran from a distance, and then leaving it be. An actual invasion would be a blunder so grotesquely huge as to make the invasion of Iraq look like a good idea. - ironmim, on 05/08/2008, -1/+3yes , the great US freedom policy :))
- 10goto10, on 05/08/2008, -1/+3I always say "those who forget history are doomed to repeat it".
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+3exactly, saying the war in Iraq is just like Vietnam is completely ignorant of the situation.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -2/+4I agree totally, these are same people panicking whenever western political saber rattlers threaten North Korea or any other third world despot.
- Todash19, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1:)
Hun Sen Hun Sen Hun Sen Hun Sen Hun Sen Hun Sen......
:) - Homerr, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Remember the 4th of November, 2008. McCain is still trying to win Vietnam...er, the Iraq war.
- Todash19, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1The GTA 4 post is around the corner.
your in the wrong spot, - lansuggs, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Unfortunately though, somehow Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeated doesn't have the same ring to it as Pol Pot Pol Pot Pol Pot...
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/11/iraq.mai ...
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1...a pile of little arms....
- Todash19, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1History is nothing but the lies we've agreed upon.
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2I'm pretty sure the military leadership has wised up after two fiascoes. If Bush even thinks of declaring war, he'll get a resounding no from the Pentagon, Chiefs of Staff, etc. etc. Those classes at West Point don't amount to nothing. Everyone knows it takes one too many invasions to bring an empire to its knees.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1opps sorry a6n28f
- DRINKxREDxBULL, on 05/08/2008, -6/+7You freaks have been claiming a big attack on Iran "is going to happen any minute now" for last 5 years and yet it never happens. I think you owe everyone an apology. The worst part is that you will most like have delusions of grandeur and think it was your bravery that prevented it from happening.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2Old man, it was a French war till Dien Bien Phu, Canada had advisers in nam too from early on, it didn't make it a Canadian war. Once American regulars took over the French and started fighting their war, it became American.
- hansk, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1u owe me flowers, candy and a movie
- inactive, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1your/you're
- Spottswood, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2It wasnt what he said verbatim, but why is that important? The evidence that his sentiment was misunderstood is extremely poor. The gradian is just pandering to their muslim readers like all good livingstonian multiculturalists do
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2Prove it. So far there is about as much proof for that as there was for Iraq's nukes.
- Merendino, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Hehehe. I see what you did there.
- a6n28f, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2My reply was clearly to Red Bull, not you, and I didn't contradict a thing you said, nor did you refute a thing I said.
- TheThirdWheel, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1I'm pretty sure a World War would involve the other side fighting back. Would World War 2 have been called a World War if Germany stopped after the invasion of Austria and had minimal casualties due to insurgents?
- TheThirdWheel, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2Europe + North America + Israel vs. the Middle East and Africa? You really think we would get incinerated? You are delusional, Israel could take them out by themselves. Seriously, assuming you are talking about Americans getting incinerated, do you know anything about the naval and Air force capabilities of the Middle East? How exactly would they bomb us besides lame ass suicide bombers?
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2quit changing the subject, this is about iran = cambodia, not whatever agenda you have on your mind.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1um....what??
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Shhh....can't hear the TEEVEE
- Merendino, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Somehow, I believe other people said that.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1oops that comment above was an abortion....heres the links again, just a handful of whats out there:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDQ/is_200 ...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ira ...
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?i ...
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/02/evi ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/20/politics/20iran. ...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080425/ap_on_go_ca_st ...
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/10/1F3C5 ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.php?option=com_c ...
http://www2.nysun.com/article/46032
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-eas ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessio ...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/11/iraq.mai ... -
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