Cambodia = Iran ? watch!
5min.com — Looks like history might repeat itself for the third(?) time. I kinda scratch my head watching this, cos if you change the name of the countries, it sounds just like news report you see all over TV today. IS HUMANITY DOOMED? It's a holiday in cambodia It's tough, kid, but its life It's a holiday in cambodia Don't forget to pack a wife
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- AlwaysAwake, on 05/07/2008, -6/+25The criminals we call Authorities have been busy, busy preparing to crush civil disobedience, when the attack on Iran signals the official start of World War III. So far it is being waged elsewhere in the Middle East and Africa as an unofficial war. Pretend it isn't happening now, and maybe you won't notice it when you and yours are incinerated. Think of it as free cremation.
- techmoney, on 05/07/2008, -6/+3Great post man. We deserve this cleansing by fire if we let expansion of the war happen.
- DRINKxREDxBULL, on 05/08/2008, -6/+7You freaks have been claiming a big attack on Iran "is going to happen any minute now" for last 5 years and yet it never happens. I think you owe everyone an apology. The worst part is that you will most like have delusions of grandeur and think it was your bravery that prevented it from happening.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -2/+4I agree totally, these are same people panicking whenever western political saber rattlers threaten North Korea or any other third world despot.
- bohemianowl, on 05/08/2008, -3/+1red bull has delusions of grandeur if he thinks he speaks for "everyone" whom "us freaks" owe an apology to.
- futureb, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2I am so sorry everyone.
*cries*- hansk, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1u owe me flowers, candy and a movie
- sanman, on 05/08/2008, -2/+5Dr Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor under Carter, was a prime force in arming the Khmer Rouge, which committed a genocide in Cambodia, killing over 3 million people.
Ironically today, the vile Brzezinski is the one hollering loudest against attacking Iran. One thing I'm sure of is that Brzezinski's agenda is NOT peaceful. - ABadPerson, on 05/08/2008, -2/+2look at Burma, the government there is brutally efficient at suppressing civil disobedience, but stupendously ineffective to help anyone in a natural disaster. we need to think of a better way to control ourselves before our civilization collapses.
- TheThirdWheel, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2Europe + North America + Israel vs. the Middle East and Africa? You really think we would get incinerated? You are delusional, Israel could take them out by themselves. Seriously, assuming you are talking about Americans getting incinerated, do you know anything about the naval and Air force capabilities of the Middle East? How exactly would they bomb us besides lame ass suicide bombers?
- davidkeithjones, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Shhh....can't hear the TEEVEE
- Todash19, on 05/07/2008, -3/+11Dugg for the DK reference
- lansuggs, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Unfortunately though, somehow Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeated doesn't have the same ring to it as Pol Pot Pol Pot Pol Pot...
- Todash19, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1:)
Hun Sen Hun Sen Hun Sen Hun Sen Hun Sen Hun Sen......
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- Todash19, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1:)
- lansuggs, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Unfortunately though, somehow Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeated doesn't have the same ring to it as Pol Pot Pol Pot Pol Pot...
- Angel1379, on 05/07/2008, -7/+11I'm pretty sure WWIII is happening all around us, but no one is acknowledging it, nor calling it by it's name.
But since NWO leaders can't declare war on themselves, it's probably something else this time around.- supras, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2I'm pretty sure the military leadership has wised up after two fiascoes. If Bush even thinks of declaring war, he'll get a resounding no from the Pentagon, Chiefs of Staff, etc. etc. Those classes at West Point don't amount to nothing. Everyone knows it takes one too many invasions to bring an empire to its knees.
- TheThirdWheel, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1I'm pretty sure a World War would involve the other side fighting back. Would World War 2 have been called a World War if Germany stopped after the invasion of Austria and had minimal casualties due to insurgents?
- jontalisman, on 05/07/2008, -7/+9Sounds more like Iraq to me, but dugg just the same. Two bad the Democratic leadership has been to cowardly to stand up to Bush like they did to Nixon.
- DRINKxREDxBULL, on 05/08/2008, -5/+3To bad you have no knowledge of history. Viet Nam was started by warmongering Democrat JFK, and it was Nixon that ended it.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -3/+2wrong again, it was started when the Vietnamese revolted against their French colonial masters.
- a6n28f, on 05/08/2008, -4/+1Son, US military advisers, Special Forces, and the CIA were in Viet Nam since 1950. JFK was a known opponent of continued escalation and declassified memorada show he was prepared to overrule the Pentagon and withdraw large numbers of troops. That plan was reversed on Nov. 22, 1963.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2Old man, it was a French war till Dien Bien Phu, Canada had advisers in nam too from early on, it didn't make it a Canadian war. Once American regulars took over the French and started fighting their war, it became American.
- a6n28f, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2My reply was clearly to Red Bull, not you, and I didn't contradict a thing you said, nor did you refute a thing I said.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1opps sorry a6n28f
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2Old man, it was a French war till Dien Bien Phu, Canada had advisers in nam too from early on, it didn't make it a Canadian war. Once American regulars took over the French and started fighting their war, it became American.
- supras, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2The Democratic majority in the Senate amounts to a one senator edge. That is not a 2/3rds supermajority. Bush has this little something called a veto. Welcome to the real world!
- DRINKxREDxBULL, on 05/08/2008, -5/+3To bad you have no knowledge of history. Viet Nam was started by warmongering Democrat JFK, and it was Nixon that ended it.
- scott2368, on 05/08/2008, -4/+3No one is going to stand up to no one this time.
It's all left up to the net users, which probably stay at home and bitch about it online instead of taking it to the streets.
Plus, online votes are easier to fix :P- brycelb, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2The only thing that is ever left up to "net users" is which hand to use when watching porn and wether or not they want to visit their myspace page or their facebook page. This is why "the net" will always be as passive as the "television"
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -6/+15Are all the posters here insane or just plain ignorant?!
Similarities between both wars = both US lead invasions against a smaller weaker country, where opposition (to US) leaders sometimes hid across national lines to avoid attacks (wouldn't you if you were fighting a super power?). Both wars were expected to be over in a matter of weeks but dragged on and on and on. Both were unpopular. Both had well documented war crimes by the states that tarnished their reputation.
Differences = everything else. North Vietnamese was a highly organized, relatively well equipped, and numbers far surpassed that of the American standing army. They were devoted to total warfare, from the simplest peasant to the general in the field. American dead numbered around 60k in Vietnam, US might be at 3k (conservative guess) so far. In fact, its becoming that more American soldiers are dying from suicide (themselves do it, not by terrorists, or other name you would like to name these partisan type soldiers). I could keep going and going. We didn't see any footage of the leader of Cambodia saying "death to America!" or "we will wipe south Vietnam off the map!"
Its easy to see similarities and say "OPPZ SAEM THING AGAIN LOL!!! HISTERY BE CERCULARZ" But it isn't, real answers come from seeing the situation for what it is, not dismissing it as a 'oh here we go again.'
neat video by the way...- eclipse007, on 05/08/2008, -5/+7Show us a footage of leader of Iran calling for "Wiping ANY country off them map" then. Can you?
That infamous mistranslation is known as black propaganda, and media in US have mastered it long time ago. People like you help spread this lie by repeating it, which doesn't make it true at all.
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"The Guardian's Jonathan Steele cites four different translations, from professors to the BBC to the New York Times and even pro-Israel news outlets, in none of those translations is the word "map" used. The closest translation to what the Iranian President actually said is, "The regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time," or a narrow relative thereof. In no version is the word "map" used or a context of mass genocide or hostile military action even hinted at. "
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steel ...- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -6/+5so because the possibility exists that the leader of iran didnt use the word ''map'' in his threats to annihilate isreal, oh yeah you really blew my argument out of the water with that one hahaahaha
- eclipse007, on 05/08/2008, -4/+5"so because the possibility exists"
It's not a possibility, it's a 100% solid fact that he didn't say map.
"in his threats to annihilate isreal"
He said the "zionist regime" will go away. Regimes vanish all the time, like Soviet Russia which vanished, but not their countries or people.
Where the hell do you get the THREAT TO ANNIHILATE part from?!!!- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -5/+3......................................__..................................................
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- eclipse007, on 05/08/2008, -4/+5"so because the possibility exists"
- Spottswood, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2It wasnt what he said verbatim, but why is that important? The evidence that his sentiment was misunderstood is extremely poor. The gradian is just pandering to their muslim readers like all good livingstonian multiculturalists do
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -6/+5so because the possibility exists that the leader of iran didnt use the word ''map'' in his threats to annihilate isreal, oh yeah you really blew my argument out of the water with that one hahaahaha
- spaceman84, on 05/08/2008, -1/+9The current figure is at over 4000 deaths. The 3000 mark was passed quite a while ago.
- eclipse007, on 05/08/2008, -3/+3I'd say one too many, let alone 4000!!
But apparently to Mr Hansk it's all good until the American death toll breaks Vietnam's record. - hansk, on 05/08/2008, -3/+3ohh sorry 4k, yea thats much further away from my estimate of 3.... just like my estimate of 60k deaths in nam was really 58148, its a ***** estimate!
ummm so exactly how does that refute what i said? that inbred retard eclipse thinks i endorse the iraq....ugh....he has completely missed the point of my argument and is simply ranting.
don't go down the same path as eclipse and nitpick. it's really stupid to refute an argument when guessing numbers are ballpark but not 100% accurate.- Spottswood, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2dont think he was trying to refute what u said, just correcting u
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+1yah, though i was more getting at the crap eclipse was blabbling about
- Spottswood, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2dont think he was trying to refute what u said, just correcting u
- eclipse007, on 05/08/2008, -3/+3I'd say one too many, let alone 4000!!
- flashingcurser, on 05/08/2008, -1/+6Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is no Pol pot or Saddam Hussein. He was a college professor and an engineering doctorate. If we leave Iraq it is very unlikely that he will kill a quarter of his population. As much as we would like to make him into a brutal thug, he simply isn't. Pompous politician I'll give you. The Israel rhetoric keeps him popular with the uneducated masses (and Ayatollahs), similar rhetoric is true of politicians everywhere.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -5/+3Whither or not he will go forward with any of his perceived threats is irrelevant. I was trying to show how little the similarities between the North Vietnamese military/Cambodia with that of Iran/terrorists. They may have both been harboring the American's enemy, but we see a much more charismatic Iran regime than we do with a silent Cambodia.
- Spottswood, on 05/08/2008, -0/+4Oh no! Not charisma! George Bush's arch nemesis! (couldn't resist)
You can't seriously think that Iran is a threat to the US or Israel, can you? Thats like thinking, even in hindsight that Iraq was a threat. As flashingcurser says, he's appealing to his public for support. Just like Clinton threatening to nuke them is appealing for support from nut jobs who think they're a threat. Billions of people hate America. Bombing the tip of the iceberg isnt going to change anything.- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2quit changing the subject, this is about iran = cambodia, not whatever agenda you have on your mind.
- Spottswood, on 05/08/2008, -0/+4Oh no! Not charisma! George Bush's arch nemesis! (couldn't resist)
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -5/+3Whither or not he will go forward with any of his perceived threats is irrelevant. I was trying to show how little the similarities between the North Vietnamese military/Cambodia with that of Iran/terrorists. They may have both been harboring the American's enemy, but we see a much more charismatic Iran regime than we do with a silent Cambodia.
- gypsi, on 05/08/2008, -3/+3i bet you believed that whole "mission accomplished" thing too
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1um....what??
- eclipse007, on 05/08/2008, -5/+7Show us a footage of leader of Iran calling for "Wiping ANY country off them map" then. Can you?
- trumpydumpy, on 05/08/2008, -7/+9Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'.
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drummin'.
Four dead in Ohio.- OffPiste, on 05/08/2008, -10/+2***** em. They should have had a science or math major.
- trumpydumpy, on 05/08/2008, -2/+7Yeah, you're right. Had those national "guards" actually went to college, they might have realized that killing innocent civilians is wrong. Oh BTW I found a link to your families genealogy page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll- OffPiste, on 05/08/2008, -4/+4Sweet!! And I thought my mom was a whore.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+5troll whore
- Todash19, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2"Sweet!! And I thought my mom was a whore."
I actually dugg that up. Even if my mom WAS a whore, I would never be able to admit it.
That took balls, man. Digg the guy up for that.- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2he totally deserves it hehehe
- trumpydumpy, on 05/08/2008, -2/+7Yeah, you're right. Had those national "guards" actually went to college, they might have realized that killing innocent civilians is wrong. Oh BTW I found a link to your families genealogy page:
- OffPiste, on 05/08/2008, -10/+2***** em. They should have had a science or math major.
- dorotixel, on 05/08/2008, -2/+10History IS circular.
Sure there are good reasons to invade hostile countries that pose a threat to anyone else, as long as it's not for the WRONG reasons, and the process isn't a complete deception of everyone accept the ones near the helms.
War and killings are a part of history, and human life, but are uncalled for, especially when you kill the ones you are trying to save.
You get my point.
The point suggested in the topic is obvious, to me at least.
No need to get all wired, no one wants a war, people are just tired of being lied to, and no one wants to die in vain, no mater what your creed is.
Dead Kennedys, Neil Young, that's just great.- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+1From my pathetic little bachelor's degree in history, I can say with a reason amount of certainty that history is NOT circular.
- OffPiste, on 05/08/2008, -4/+4Okay I'm stuck at the part where I have the two hookers and the 63 caddy. Am I supposed to bitch slap the whores and then peel out or do I steal their money first then run away? Any help at this point would be appreciated.
- Merendino, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Hehehe. I see what you did there.
- Todash19, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1The GTA 4 post is around the corner.
your in the wrong spot,- OffPiste, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1your/you're
- wildbillhick, on 05/08/2008, -0/+5the horror..... the horror....
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1...a pile of little arms....
- ironmim, on 05/08/2008, -1/+3yes , the great US freedom policy :))
- americangoy, on 05/08/2008, -3/+9 Cambodia = Iran ?
NO.
Because Cambodia was invaded by our allies, the South Vietnamese Army, with US air support.
But in Iraq, the 100% Shia Iraqi Army, which is PRO IRAN (Iran is also Shia, btw), will NOT invade Iran. In fact, they will do the opposite - they will start shooting at OUR troops.
http://americangoy.blogspot.com/2008/03/iran-thank ...- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -1/+3exactly, saying the war in Iraq is just like Vietnam is completely ignorant of the situation.
- dabura, on 05/08/2008, -5/+2so what are the commons?
Last time i check Cambodia has a tyrannic government, not an religious-extreme Allah-worshipers- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -3/+2The commonality is that those ''religious-extreme Allah-worshipers'' are funding, training and equipping insurgents to kill innocent people and American soldiers. Thats about it.
- Kizilbash, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2Prove it. So far there is about as much proof for that as there was for Iraq's nukes.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/11/iraq.mai ...
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1oops that comment above was an abortion....heres the links again, just a handful of whats out there:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDQ/is_200 ...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ira ...
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?i ...
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/02/evi ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/20/politics/20iran. ...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080425/ap_on_go_ca_st ...
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/10/1F3C5 ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.php?option=com_c ...
http://www2.nysun.com/article/46032
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-eas ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessio ...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/11/iraq.mai ...
- Kizilbash, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2Prove it. So far there is about as much proof for that as there was for Iraq's nukes.
- hansk, on 05/08/2008, -3/+2The commonality is that those ''religious-extreme Allah-worshipers'' are funding, training and equipping insurgents to kill innocent people and American soldiers. Thats about it.
- yellowcakewalk, on 05/08/2008, -5/+4Both Cambodia and Iran have a history of being colonized by foreigners. Cambodia and VietNam suffered under a brutal colonization under the French, then an even worse colonization under the Americans. The Iranian democracy was overthrown in 1953 by the CIA look up Operation Ajax, to be replaced by the murderous regime of Shah Reza Palavi.
- playuhh, on 05/08/2008, -7/+4c = 3
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48 > 42 .... Cambodia > Iran ? Don't see what you did there sir... Programmers are not allowed to bury me btw...- potisreallygood, on 05/08/2008, -2/+2you are a fag
- neogoblin, on 05/08/2008, -2/+2Republicans never learn.
- 10goto10, on 05/08/2008, -1/+3I always say "those who forget history are doomed to repeat it".
- 10goto10, on 05/08/2008, -1/+1I usually say, "those who forget history are doomed to repeat it".
- DeviantDragon, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2What's next? You sometimes say?
- Merendino, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Somehow, I believe other people said that.
- Todash19, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1History is nothing but the lies we've agreed upon.
- 10goto10, on 05/08/2008, -1/+1I usually say, "those who forget history are doomed to repeat it".
- newcrazyoval, on 05/08/2008, -0/+0is that all you say? sometimes I say "tea" instead of "coffee"
- angusm, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2Is it Bad Analogy Week again? As far as I can see, the reasoning goes "Iran is a neighboring country who we might just fight with because we're hip-deep in a war we don't know how to win, therefore Iran is just like Cambodia."
From the point of view of the Bush administration, it would be comforting if Iran was like Cambodia in the '70s. Cambodia then was a tiny, desperately-poor peasant economy, whose government was sympathetic to the US. Moreover, the US could call on the ARVN and the Cambodian army to do a lot of their fighting for them. Iran, on the other hand, is a populous and relatively prosperous modern industrial nation with a parliamentary democracy (for some values of democracy). The government isn't sympathetic to the US, the opposition is militarily negligible, and US 'allies' in Iraq aren't going to invade Iran just because GWB asks them nicely. I suppose the Israelis might be up for some bombing and strafing, but they're far too canny to put any boots on the ground. US options at this point are pretty much limited to bombing the bejeesus out of Iran from a distance, and then leaving it be. An actual invasion would be a blunder so grotesquely huge as to make the invasion of Iraq look like a good idea. - Homerr, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Remember the 4th of November, 2008. McCain is still trying to win Vietnam...er, the Iraq war.
- danimayu88, on 05/08/2008, -0/+0Great article!
