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- zaphodfl, on 10/12/2007, -7/+45Please post links to support your claim.
LGF has it's opinion, as do you.
And... CAIR is a supporter of Jihadists. Do some research. - paulrus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38CAIR is financially tied to some of the most radical muslim groups in the world. That is a FACT.
- Pablo4200, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30"Innocents are being shot at and mosques are being burned down"
Where? Who? I see churches being firebombed, and embassies torched, and film directors murdered and a nun being shot because of "offense" but I haven't heard of any Muslims being murdered or mosques being torched, except by fellow Muslims.
Got links? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+35Sent an email to the station telling them they were cowards for giving up their rights.
- SnowKat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24ahhh... the LGF bashers most of whom don't even know what CAIR is. I see the fever swamp is deep here in diggviille. For those of you bashing LGF, learn the word dhimmi, for you will be one if it's not too late already.
- yiddishsteel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31"***** you and ***** this post." Words of brevity from another unhinged libtard.
- gitarfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24LGF just posts actions of Islamists and radical Muslims. You know the ones that want to take over the world. The only criticism of moderate Muslims is that they don't speak up enough. Of course it can be tough to stand up to extremists. Those extremists that say knock Islam and we'll kill you AND your family. That goes beyond free speech.CAIR goes beyond dissent by calling for "investigations" into those with opinions they don't like. Some of the comments are bad but every site has that. Look at DU and Kos. Look at the commenters here who can't get past profanity and name calling. Get a vocabulary.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29@martalli: You're way off. The anti-defamation league runs headlong into the ACLU all the time.
-10 points for bad information
-100 points for twisting the subject of these comments in order to blame it on the Jews - MyLogin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28Where was the hate in that link? I see more hate in the foul-mouthed post above than in this. What I saw was something that simply reported some of the latest activity of the "religion of peace" followers. What a shame that some of this religion apparently don't subscribe to the command to "love your neighbor as yourself." Maybe that command was not plagiarized correctly when then Koran was written.
- pmr12002, on 10/12/2007, -11/+31I am sure that if it was something hateful about Bush you would be digging it. You've show yourself for the hypocrite you are.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+28They shut it down by their bullying techniques.
- werter5075, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18who pays for c.a.i.r..............
- 186k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Sir Charles is Spot on ! As usual - Keep up the excelent work at LGF!
- BullyJack, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Bummer...I was hoping for a link to the skit.
- monergism, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21CAIR is lame but they don't have power. Stand up to these activists and they'll back down.
- Sk3pt1k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+171 - You can't hold the operator of a site responsible for the comments of its users - especially with the volume of users that LGF has.
2 - You need to look at the context in which many of these things were said - every time something happens in America you'll find Muslims who celebrate - e.g. 9/11, space shuttle disaster, Katrina, etc. - Missourimama, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I'm offended of a RELIGION (ISLAM) that treats women worse than DOGS.
I'm offended that in the 21st Century a religion (ISLAM) HATES equal rights for women.
I'm offended at MUSLIM MEN who still stone women for adultery in the 21st Century!
Why do you people side with a dark-ages religion that HATES YOU, and in the same breath you liberals make fun of and hate Christians all day long, while appeasing muslims?
I guess it's because liberals do not have to worry about losing their heads with christians? - Koopa, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21They didn't really apologize, read the article carefully....its one of thouse faux Pope-apologies:
"We're sorry people were offended." - dmduke, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19What ever happened to free speech? These goddamned politically correct fu**wads need to bend over and stick their heads up their asses...or better yet, pull it out and see that the world will get pissed off no matter what you say so no sense gettin all 'sensitive' to 'words' that you dont like. Just because your little muslim, white, black, blue, christian, jewish or whatever ass gets offended at someone elses words, that does not give you the right to preach your views on the rest of the world. So to all you politicaly correct fu**wads...go F*** YOURSELF and leave other people's speech alone!
- DreadPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Lizardhunter1 - You say LGF has no original content, but need I point out to you their work in publishing the Dan Rather faked documents scandal in 2004? Or how about their work on the recent Reuters photoshopped pictures scandal from just this summer? LGF had a major hand in publishing both of those scandals.
- Cylus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Islamophobia is such an interesting term.
phobia: a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it. (Dictionary.com)
Logically that translates to an irrational fear of Islam. Now, I raise the question - is it really irrational to fear Islam? Under some interpretations of the faith's scriptures, it can be a justifiably frightening theology. Now, the same could be said of many faiths, but I would put forth that there seems to be an at least superficial correlation between fundamentalist extremist Muslims and violence. It would appear that such a correlation does not exist among fundamentalist extremists of other faiths. Or at least, the scale is clearly not the same.
Perhaps if we took a per capita sample and found some way to quantify "extremism" and "fundamentalism" we would see that extremists tend toward the same proportion of violent acts, but still, it appears to me that one faith is providing justification for many acts of wanton violence.
Some Muslims have courageously spoken out against this violence. I saw an article the other day to that effect. However, the problem does exist, and to cry "Islamophobia" every time someone brings it up is dishonest and wrong. The reaction to the Pope's comments was telling - the net effect was basically "Don't call us violent or we'll KILL YOU!"
It is, however, equally wrong to call for widepsread violence in response to the problem. Instead, let us call for a reformation of Islam. There are Suras that support non-violence aplenty - let those be regarded as truth rather than the more violent passages like Sura 9. It's not an impossible goal, but it will require effort on the part of nearly every Muslim leader within the faith.
Now, as to LGF...
Many on LGF have said some truly insane things. If you read through the comments you'll find them. However, it is unfair to denigrate the entire site based on its commentors. Digg would have to be considered many times as hateful as LGF if we judged every site that way. - ryanr313, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Why is LGF a hate site? Is it because they are pointing out the hate that the Muslim world has for the West? It is a clearinghouse for news about the Muslim world. It not fabricating news it is pointing out what the Muslim world is saying. Liberals and extremist just hate it when we pay attention to what they are saying and point out how ridiculous or evil it is.
- 8675309, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Should we tolerate intolerance?
- blogagog, on 10/12/2007, -10/+19I agree, LGF is a toxicaly hate filled site. They are viscious to the peaceloving terrorists and their supporters. Disgusting.
- AMER1CAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11CAIR is a front-group for Islamic terrorism: FACT
CAIR directors are linked to terrorists: FACT
CAIR has American blood on its hands: FACT
CAIR should be shutdown and directors jailed: FACT - impoa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10learn about CAIR here http://www.anti-cair-net.org/
- vanderleun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Why is it that so many of these Web 2.0 "user" powered sites turn out to be little hotbeds of political reactionaries with extreme Bush Derangement Syndrome?
- Pablo4200, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Just wait until the Madhi comes back! Those racists...er, religionists will get theirs, I tell ya!
- gitarfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"At least CAIR are forthright about their role..." That's why they won't talk about members or former members convicted of terrorism-related offences. You mention a commenter at LGF but not the sites author. Charles is very forthright, if you would take time to notice.
- Barbrady, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11I find it funny that those who preach peace and tolerance are the same ones that lose their minds over sites like LGF and Michellemalkin.com Does the word hypocrite sound familiar?
- wintermd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"Can you post an example of this 'bad' writing going on there?"
hint, they can't, not without throwing in some Bush hate as well. - 8675309, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10"the problem isn't just with the commentors. the people who write for the site are just as bad, if a little more subtle about it."
OK, I'll bite. Can you post an example of this 'bad' writing going on there? - zombo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@Diabolickungfu
You might learn an awful lot at an anti-CAIR propaganda site, but then judging by your previous comments i very much doubt it. You see its very difficult to see the cupboard when your locked up inside it. Have a browse through http://news.faithfreedom.org maybe they can help you. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@yttx: You do realize that denying someone a job because of their political leanings is illegal?
- somaking, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8LOL. Why do libbies always label their opponents as "racist" ?? Why would you assume the lefty slant will prevail here on Digg? Don't you realize that most top blogs on the internet are right-leaning ? Don't you realize that talk radio is dominated by the right-leaning?
Digg early adopters were techies, usually left-leaning (due to their insecurities and influence of the university environment). But we're past the early-adopter stage, aren't we? - SnowKat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Diabolickfu,
You got some anger built up there amigo. If LGF lizardoids decide to populate this site, it is you who will be buried. You give 'right wing' propaganda sites no credence, why should we give the 'left leaning' MSM any? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13ok
- zhorkon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Best question here so far!
This is the whole problem with political and religious zealots of every stripe. They can mouth the words about being "tolerant", and they can whine piteously about their own "abuse" at the hands of others, but when the whip is in their hand they miss no opportunity to wield it against everyone who says anything they don't like.
CAIR and the Muslim world in general have a problem with tolerance. Check the statistics. Whose borders are the bloodiest? Who's in the news most often for "honor killings" of women who're perceived as straying from traditional male authority? Who prohibits other faiths from setting up places of worship in their countries and makes it a capital offense to leave their own "true" religion? Who stones people for being gay, etc.? One could go on and on with similar examples of *intolerance*.
Sure, history shows Jews and Christians and Buddhists, etc., following similar totalitarian tendencies... but for the most part, they got over it centuries ago. Now it's the Muslims' time to face the Enlightenment.
Western idiots who think they're "progressive" and "tolerant" by getting in bed with pre-medieval throwbacks had better think again. You are betraying the values you claim to champion, and you on the chopping block too, with the rest of the modern world. - KCtheKat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I was hoping the same. Judging by the fact CAIR got involved it must of been too close to the truth.
- ryanr313, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Diabolickungfu, thanks for the welcome. BTW have you ever visited LGF?
- ender743, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If the request for references was geniune then here you go. Ridiculously easy to find by the way.No need to link anymore as these articles alone have over 100 reference sources. Don't like the sources then try DHS, Justice Dept., State Dept., Treasury Dept.(interesting that Hezbollah is listed as the largest counterfitter of US currency)
The list goes on. If you've never seen this then you should really open your eyes and research before trying to defend these guys. If people don't believe someone means business after they saw a truck driver's head off on TV then they are lost anyway. This is an international "nation" that is violently struggling for its own "state".
It's the same war they've been fighting since the 7th century and after they discovered the wonders of television and the West's squeamishness towards blood-letting they unfortunately appear to be winning. This is why I have given up my cushy job and start Army BCT in 3 weeks......and to think I voted Democrat in every election so far, not the next one.
Hours of reading material on CAIR arrests, convictions and pending trials on terrorist-related charges:
http://www.meforum.org/article/916#_ftn24
Article has 143 reference sources....nicely organized in APA format for the college kids
http://www.investigativeproject.org/FCNA-CAIR.html
About half-way down the CAIR arrest/conviction info starts - over 80 reference sources.
Don't forget other historical precedents such as the fact that the majority of funding given to militant IRA groups came from legitimate Irish-American charity organizations...also very easy to find.
After that please look up the meaning of "5th column" and "dhimmi". - BuddyOne, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Seems to operate just like your cesspool, but with less profanity.
- corsair6903, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Actually, LGF doesn't produce any "***** racist articles." Mainly they link to Islamic hate speach directed against folks such as yourself who seem to think Islam = Peace and wonder "what have we done to make them mad?"
Don't read the comments, some of them are actually blowhard morons. Read what is on the front page and see what sort of filth spews from the mouths (and pens) of Islamists every single day of the year.
Try it, you'll like it. - arcticJKL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Excellent Post Cylus
- zombo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I thought http://www.anti-cair-net.org/ deserverd another mention just in case you didn't catch it first time.
Oh, you see that BIG old "Check Spelling" button? thats your friend that is. - martalli, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6How is that relevant to this discussion? What happened to calm, adult discussion?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6The unemployed living in Mom's basement have a lot of time to dream up ways that they're kept "down" by the "man". It's quite simple to just blame Bush. Look how successful it made Michael Moore, Hugo Chavez, Iranian Prez Ahamadamagonaneedanewaturbindad
- ryanr313, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5lizard hunter, would you vote for a devout christian or jew?
- Equalizer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6martalli, you're on digg....no such thing....I really have tried but ***** has trolled here long enough
- Cylus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Could you define your views on what constitutes bigotry and racism? I'm curious to hear your definition and how you apply it.
Now certainly, I would agree that prejudging someone's character based on their religion is simply unfair, but why is it unfair to suggest that someone's "intemperate" remarks were informed by their religion? This happens all the time without allegations of prejudice - the point of the statement was to outline potential prejudice, not judge someone simply because they are a Muslim.
Note the chain of causality here: an official says something the writer of the site feels is "outrageously intemperate." The writer suggests that the individuals comments were informed by her religion and she is biased in her views due to her faith.
Let's take another example. Jerry Falwell has some completely idiotic, insensitive things in his time. Obviously his sense of faith has informed those statements. This was noted time and again. Was it bigoted or "Christianophobic" for people to site his fundamentalism and intolerance because of his religious views?
Now, if the writer of LGF had simply accused the woman of being biased simply because she was a Muslim in absence of her comments, THAT would be bigoted. -
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