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CNN's Gloria Borger: CIA Leak a Technicality ‘Nobody Cares Anymore’
crooksandliars.com — Gloria thinks that because “nobody wants to see the President accused of lying” over a leak that was really just a “technicality” anyway that we ought to just wait until Bush writes his memoir to find out the truth (I’m so not kidding. I wish I were) about whatever happened because really “nobody cares anymore.” Egregious White House shillery.
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- IrishJoe, on 11/23/2007, -6/+112Yeah, Gloria, let's impeach a president over a blow job, but we'll pass on a president who lied to the American people about revealing an undercover CIA agent who was working to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of Iran and other potential enemies of the US undoing all of her work to keep us safe because he was pissed at her husband for revealing another one of his lies to the American people. Lying that Saddam had bought Uranium from Niger. How about we lock up Gloria and other traitors to our nation?
- Fieri, on 11/23/2007, -20/+7I'm all for the impeachment of Bush, but you can't seriously tell me Clinton was impeached over a blow job. If he had told the truth, nothing would have happened except a (maybe) scandal.
Besides, the pardons of various terrorist masterminds and international criminal masterminds sealed my opinion of Clinton's moral compass.- Izult, on 11/23/2007, -0/+11The impeachment proceedings weren't started over the blow job, they were started for obstruction of justice. There seems to be a misconception about what impeachment really is. It's not the removal from office so much as the proceedings that it takes to get him removed from office. Doesn't change the fact that Bush needs to not only be removed from office but then tried for treason after he is removed.
- Loonacy, on 11/23/2007, -2/+6No, Gloria is saying she didn't agree with Clinton's impeachment. Nobody wants to see the President (Clinton) accused of lying over a leak (ew) that was really just a technicality (I did not have sexual relations with that woman).
- Fieri, on 11/23/2007, -20/+7I'm all for the impeachment of Bush, but you can't seriously tell me Clinton was impeached over a blow job. If he had told the truth, nothing would have happened except a (maybe) scandal.
- mightydavefish, on 11/23/2007, -2/+56LOL
Right wing scumbags just can't WAIT for forget about the White House committing Treason.- WaterDragon, on 11/23/2007, -0/+7America has always had the best of everything -- and now, at last, we have produced the best psychotic liars too!
- chucknixon, on 11/24/2007, -4/+1Let's review the facts: 1) Valery Plame was not covert nor had been for 9 years. The law only applied to agents that were currently or had been covert in the last 5 years. She was just a desk jockey. 2) The person that revealed her involvement was Richard Armitage, a State Dept employee. 3) The special prosecutor already knew 1. and 2. before trying to trap someone in a faulty recollection of conversations over a year old (To all you kiddies out there is is known as entrapment and it's not legal or ethical). 4) Libby was convicted of not remembering a conversation with Tim Russert the same way that that Russert did, and we all know that members of the exalted press are 100% accurate. Mightydavefish, I don't care how much of an ignorant jerk you may be, I hope you never have to endure the kind of witch hunt Libby was subjected to. But don't worry, only people who've actually spent their lives to make the world a better place, get targeted for this kind of inquisition.
- cquinnd, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4"But official legal documents published in the course of the CIA leak grand jury investigation, United States v. Libby, and Congressional investigations fully establish Mrs. Wilson's classified employment as a covert officer for the CIA at the time that Novak's column was published in July 2003."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#Career
Your troll-fu is weak today. - mOdQuArK, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004870.php
- cquinnd, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4"But official legal documents published in the course of the CIA leak grand jury investigation, United States v. Libby, and Congressional investigations fully establish Mrs. Wilson's classified employment as a covert officer for the CIA at the time that Novak's column was published in July 2003."
- reeder, on 11/23/2007, -0/+36Deeply, deeply disturbing.
- NickSpinner, on 11/23/2007, -3/+33america is gone, you guys threw it away
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -2/+15We, the American people didn't. The electoral college and Bush did collectively. We didn't (and still don't) have any say in the matter.
- Waterrat, on 11/23/2007, -0/+10 This is so true..Someone else is running this country, and it's not us!
- looselips, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4A big majority of the US govt is run for the politicians, by the politicians.
No chance of something getting fuct up there huh?
The US needs to move to a popular vote to fix what the corruption of the electoral collage.
- seanc6610, on 11/23/2007, -0/+11America is gone, definitely. But I don't think it's the DIGGers who threw it away. I think that history books will show that GWB was the president who effectively destroyed the United States, in almost all respects. The worst part is that he's still ***** us over and we're not doing anything. I really do think it's time for the Second American Revolution, but I don't know who will finally step up and start it.
@Andrew: we do have a say, we're just too tranquilized to actually say something. our democracy has been silenced.- Izult, on 11/23/2007, -0/+8Sean,
Funny you should say that about a second revolution. I've been saying that for a while and expressing fears that Bush declaring martial law isn't too far away, only to be patted on the head and told that our congress would never let that happen. Our congress is complacent, neutered, and clearly not doing what we elected them to do so how can they stop it? - BelXul, on 11/23/2007, -0/+6Here's a question on that Second American Revolution concept:
If someone actually tries to start one, how can anyone tell that from any other criminal act reported in the news? And if such a person were to be caught at some point after trying to start said Revolution, will anyone else do anything about it, either by trying to set such a person free or picking up where they left off? Honestly, with the way people in the US are, I don't see any of it happening unless somehow their way of life was clearly threatened by the government on a very personal basis. I believe only vengeance will drive people to act. - miketrin, on 11/23/2007, -1/+7The idea of removing a corrupt government is gone. Just mention it an you'll be considered a homeland terrorist. Bush isn't the dummy everyone says he is. His administration have brought about some changes that previous administrations could only dream of, one of his biggest change is to guarantee that even after he is gone our federal government will continue to suppress the American people and erase the middle class.
Our only hope is that other countries will step up and help save the American people from our federal government.- StarlessKnight, on 11/23/2007, -0/+4I am increasingly amused with the extent some in power would, willingly or otherwise, seek or cause the erasure of the middle class. As I recall, one of the fundamental causes of the Socialist ideal was that the proletariat/base would rise against the bourgeoisie/superstructure after being thoroughly, and unabashedly, repressed. So some of the most capitalistic people are, in effect, actually Socialists, no?
- Izult, on 11/23/2007, -0/+8Sean,
- Izult, on 11/23/2007, -0/+5http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzPXer7946E
Watch this and find out what really happened. Like AndrewDBarker said WE didn't. We got screwed. - clark24, on 11/23/2007, -1/+4Some 50-60M people supported Bush in the elections and such a treasonous prick should have never received that many votes in the first place. In the end it's the fault of the American people as a whole, because we are one nation. Until the US is split up (probably inevitable in my lifetime) we are all responsible for who is elected. I didn't vote for Bush in either election but I surely could have done more to support another candidate through campaigning or donations. With a nation so bitterly divided, voting is not enough anymore.
- MistySteele, on 11/23/2007, -0/+5clark24 beat me to it. Yes, unfortunately 51% of the voting public were able to throw it away.
- StarlessKnight, on 11/23/2007, -0/+5You can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool some of the people some of the time... just enough to get elected (or enough to nearly get elected and then receive a gentle 'bump' by less than legal, ethical, or democratic means--either or).
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -2/+15We, the American people didn't. The electoral college and Bush did collectively. We didn't (and still don't) have any say in the matter.
- Battleloser, on 11/23/2007, -2/+9Scooter who?
- khail250, on 11/23/2007, -0/+12Bush can't write! and Bush never speaks the truth!!! good lord
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -1/+28Bush... writing a book.
That's a good one. This lady should be nominated for comedian of the year.- WaterDragon, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3The book will be mostly pictures, drawn in crayon.
...except for the red ones, which will be drawn with the blood of the million plus people he killed!
- WaterDragon, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3The book will be mostly pictures, drawn in crayon.
- JusticeAK, on 11/23/2007, -0/+12Bush can lie, it's a matter of homeland security. E.O. 593
- heystoopid, on 11/23/2007, -0/+4 Don't you mean Bush has yet to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth in his entire public political career !
- monkeyrun, on 11/23/2007, -1/+23Is it me or are the neocons in full damage-control mode?
- UtahApocalyse, on 11/23/2007, -0/+6Nope, they are just in Control mode
- Izult, on 11/23/2007, -0/+5They've been in damage control mode for a while now. What i can't decide is if it's working or not. It must be to some extent because we've forgotten all about Military Commissions Act of 2006 & John Warner National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2007' two acts that are dubious at best. They're also trying very hard to cover their tracks and give us misinformation about the North American Union and the media (with the exception of a few including Lou Dobbs) is not covering it at all. I no longer feel that this is the same America I grew up in, and the media these days leaves me feeling like I'm nothing more than a mushroom.
- Waterrat, on 11/23/2007, -0/+2 I strongly suspect that is just how they want us all to feel.
They do not want our input, They care not what we think or how we feel....We are a lower life form to them to be controlled and micromanaged.
I have read a number of Noam Chomsky's books and he has really nailed the catfish to the tree...
- Izult, on 11/23/2007, -0/+1Is there a particular book you'd recommend?
- Waterrat, on 11/23/2007, -0/+2 I strongly suspect that is just how they want us all to feel.
- Fieri, on 11/23/2007, -1/+10They're switching support over to Hillary. It's patently obvious now that they were just a group of ne'er-do-wells who hijacked the Republican Party from true conservatives to steer it toward mindless ra-ra patriotism. Now they've realized they've completely screwed the GOP for decades, they're moving over to the next host. Hillary now receives more donations than any other candidate from government contractors and those who profit from war. FOX News owner Rupert Murdoch openly donates to and advises the Hillary campaign.
IT'S A SHAM, FOLKS. OPEN YOUR EYES. There is no permitted opposition party in this country.- Izult, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3LOL you make them sound like a parasite. Oh wait...
- Waterrat, on 11/23/2007, -0/+4 Yes,now that we can see the rich fat man hiding behind the curtain,we can see that him and his ilk have chosen her to continue their agenda.
The problem is we are a tiny flea in a sea of ignorant sheep who do not have a clue this is going on.. And we have no way to tell them cause the sheephearders control what the sheep hear and see... And this has been going on for a very,very long time.
Oh,and don't kid yourselves that this is only happening in America..Ive read AU's media is also coming under control by the powerful...And I suspect they are not alone.
Thank you Noam Chomsky, for opening our eyes, so we can at least see the hatchet before it falls.- Izult, on 11/23/2007, -0/+2Add the fact that when the "flea" wakes up the sheep and tells them what's really going on, the sheep refuses to see it. I'm from the if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's probably a duck camp but there's so many sheep that would call it a falcon because... well insert what ever reason you can think of. Too self absorbed to see beyond their nose. Myopic and don't believe that something like this could ever happen, or see what's going on and don't care so they bury their head back in the sand.
- 0zzy, on 11/23/2007, -0/+14Jack Cafferty > CNN
- spyd3rweb, on 11/23/2007, -1/+5Jack and Lou Dobbs are really the only thing that network has going for it.
- JordanTW90, on 11/23/2007, -0/+4We need pardon police.
- MistySteele, on 11/23/2007, -0/+8Whew, glad Gloria and Jack cleared that up for me. For a minute, I thought this was serious. So what's the news with Britney these days?
- LittleDas, on 11/23/2007, -0/+6Jack Cafferty owned Gloria Borger
- heystoopid, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3This woman does not appear to be a real political analyst of any real note , nor it would appear to be anything in the way or was ever capable of reporting the real truth given her current resume posted for this PR hack job ! Further , appears to be more of an extremely poor and weak PR damage control wanker at the best times given her meaningless one track monologue speech of the fake "please forgive me , I have not sinned at all " crap !
With wankers like these on the mass media circus , little wonder Americans are so ill informed as to the current political realities of life in the Union Of The United New Soviet States of Amerika !
Talk about having one's head in the sand , just all window dressing looks on the cover and appears to have no real substance between the eyes or that much talent either !
Move along nothing to see , just another one of the many of George's in your ass mouth pieces , employed for spewing ignorance and propaganda only in the mass media ! - MadN, on 11/23/2007, -0/+10Remember, remember to vote in November; End Neocon treasonous plots.
- nerdtron, on 11/23/2007, -0/+5Wow, so a pundit accuses the American people of not caring about the President's lies. Clearly this is false because the American people have done so much to hold him accountable.......Oh, wait, my mistake, nobody's done JACK *****. Way to prove her right.
- Izult, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3I think the problem is that so many people feel like they can't do anything and even if they did try to do something it would count for nothing. I have a few friends that while i love them dearly I'd love to knock them till their teeth rattle every time they tell me they're not voting because their votes don't count. It's time to do away with the electoral college.
- LargeTrout, on 11/23/2007, -0/+4This story seems to have gotten little press, which is frankly astounding. The US President has been caught out in a lie (or, at the very least, some inconsistencies in his interpretation of events) and nobody has challenged him. Bush and Cheney have basically become untouchable. They no longer need to answer to the press or the public. That's worrying. In a democracy you really should expect better.
- ZenMojo, on 11/23/2007, -0/+5Gloria Berger is either an idiot or a toady for the administration. I really hope it's the latter because at least CNN would know what it's doing.
- PhilMoskowitz, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3You've been programmed to cover up and accept cover ups for the past 3 generations. America is always right, always the best. Every time a criminal act is exposed, all the way back to the banana wars or kermit roosevelt in Iran you treat it like "a mistake that we've learned from" and you forgive yourselves. This is the pattern that allows America to be a criminal syndicate imposing economic imperialism, or hegemony, however you like to catagorize it. You're all ***** brainwashed.
- newprohibition, on 11/23/2007, -0/+5You should find some interviews with Naomi Wolf about "The End of America" and the 10 steps governments take to close down a free society :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc - CannedMango, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3Treason? nah..... that's just a technicality. And besides, since people don't care anymore, because the media isn't telling them to care, then let's just forget the whole thing. Up next, should we attack Iran?
- Firebrand143, on 11/23/2007, -0/+2Not that I think this is the play being made, but what about this strategy: instead of arguing over whether so-and-so committed X crime, argue over whether anybody cares about so-and-so committing X crime. While it seems like insanity on the surface, it could be a backhanded way of convicting so-and-so in the court of public opinion.
This concept was portrayed in the original Manchurian Candidate. Like I said, I highly doubt that's the play here (never attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity, and all), but one can muse... - GhostyBoy, on 11/23/2007, -0/+3Wait...you mean we can hold the President accountable for something?
- Izult, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1Well that's how i tend to interpret the Constitution. I'm no lawyer/judge though.
- gab00n, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4After the Plame leak occurred another star was added to that wall, that agent most likely was killed due to the leak.
- network, on 11/24/2007, -4/+1I don't care. My co workers don't care. My Friends don't care. Seems only the person who posted this story cares. Oh, and BTW, Plame was not covert.
- NotAChickenHawk, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4Uh, no, Plame is no longer covert. See the difference?
- network, on 11/24/2007, -2/+1LOL. She never was covert. Do some research.
- cquinnd, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2Research done. Her covert status was still in effect at the time of the leak.
- mOdQuArK, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004870.php
Do your own research. You're going to have to think up some new lies, since it's so easy debunk the ones you keep telling. - licnyc, on 11/24/2007, -0/+0Such a completely idiotic asinine argument its incredible. Its never OK to out a CIA agent to the press, covert or not. That's just about the dumbest thing I ever heard. I can't believe you are making this argument and can completely dismiss how badly the whole thing was handled. We shouldn't have leaders giving names of anyone in the CIA to anyone in the press
- network, on 11/24/2007, -2/+1LOL. She never was covert. Do some research.
- NotAChickenHawk, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4Uh, no, Plame is no longer covert. See the difference?
- NotAChickenHawk, on 11/24/2007, -1/+6So treason is a mere technicality? And we shouldn't do anything because we can trust the traitor-in-chief to fess up to it all in his memoirs? WTF?
- network, on 11/24/2007, -1/+1What act of treason was committed?
- Izult, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1Look into Firing of US Attorneys, Military Commissions Act of 2006, ohn Warner National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2007, Patriot Act, TSA, Blackwater,
- network, on 11/24/2007, -1/+1pwned:P
- network, on 11/24/2007, -1/+1What act of treason was committed?
- Infowarmachine, on 11/24/2007, -1/+4so what if JFK was assassinated by the CIA
so what if 9/11 was an inside job and 3000 americans were murdered by criminal elements in our own government
no one cares anymore - bshock, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1Traitor Bolger also reports that Traitor Bush's penis tastes delicious.
- dildoolielly, on 11/24/2007, -0/+2IF BUSH ASSRAPED BABY JESUS ON T.V.
ate the baby Jesus, and then had a jacket made from the baby Jesus' skin, Cons on these boards would be applauding and defending it as a brave and courageous act on behalf of national security.
the 23% foxified idiot inbred moron rednecks would find a way to overlook it and call libs traitors for criticizing it.
Rush would probably call the baby Jesus a terrorist.
John Gibson and O'Reilly would call it a war on cannabilism.
Hannity would say that not eating the Baby Jesus hurts the morale of our troops.
The republicans in Congress would say that it's a bipartisan problem.
Coulter would...well, she'd probably justify it by saying that the Baby Jesus was a liberal, and then jack off to the thought.
All of this while the threat level is moved up a color, so that the ignorant people of this country are diverted from what just happened.
And you know what, 23% of America would fall for it.
To those 23%, please stay home during the next election. You're too stupid to vote for a qualified candidate that has your best interests at heart.
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