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CNN legal analyst: Alleged Halliburton rapists may go free
rawstory.com — Former employee Jamie Leigh Jones is filing a federal lawsuit claiming she was gang-raped by employees of Halliburton in Iraq and held shipping container with a bed, then told she would be fired if she sought medical treatment.
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- HeartlandUSA, on 12/13/2007, -9/+86lll0lll: I've read your activities on DIGG & you are highly suspicious.
Where as I have thousands & thousands of hours studying news services & Raw Story is one of the most accurate.
Also, Halliburton circumvents & flaunts the law as their standard business practice, so they have zero credibility.
Lastly, an employer only forces its employees to sign such a contract where the employee can not take legal action because the employer knows that it has to cover its ass because it regularly conducts illegal activities. (which has been proven that they do TONS of)
If you're are going to be skeptical, you need to point out what make you suspicious. Oh & lets not forget this company rapes your bank account on a daily basis.- nicku, on 12/13/2007, -1/+29This was also on CNN, ABC News, etc...
- gr3yarea, on 12/13/2007, -39/+13Raw Story is one of the most accurate news sources? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- DeadRepubs, on 12/13/2007, -6/+13Fox News.
But ofcourse you're a righttard who propobably would take it up the ass from O'reilly. - alphasixtyone, on 12/14/2007, -1/+1I don't get it. are you saying that this didn't happen?
- DeadRepubs, on 12/13/2007, -6/+13Fox News.
- moin1097, on 12/13/2007, -34/+15"Raw Story is one of the most accurate."
Exactly what color is the sky in that fantasy world you live in?- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -19/+7Oddly enough, his vivid fantasy world has a deep blue sky.
He's also convinced he has footage of George W eating babies, but that's another story.- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1You forget "kicking puppies".
- DeadRepubs, on 12/13/2007, -5/+9Righty propogandist,Go vandalize some diggs and keep thinking 'Fox News' is fair and balanced.
- mightydavefish, on 12/13/2007, -3/+5What examples of inaccuracy can your little right wing brain find?
You rightard losers criticize, yet you can't seem to come up with even ONE example
*****.
Hey, don't you need to get down to the enlistment office?- appleann1, on 12/13/2007, -3/+2You are a great one to be talking about examples dave, every time someone calls you on a ridiculous comment you make, lo and behold, gone, never to return.
As far as your asinine comments about everyone joining the military, just who would be left to man the counters at Starbucks? Maybe all the police should go, but who would be left to pick up the children the war protesters drop? What if all the firemen went, what would you do if your house caught on fire dave? Let's send all the city and state workers too, then you'd have to get rid of your own garbage dave. I could go on but you get the point of just how ridiculous you sound.- remccain, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2It would work in my home town. The police are villainous scum, the sheriff's deputies are volunteer, the garbage is outsourced to WMI, the fire dept is voluntary and well, unless you include state employed health care professionals, I wouldn't even notice.
- bobdotcom, on 12/13/2007, -1/+2you dont seem to get his comment... He doesnt want everyone to join the military, just the right wingers that seem to be SOOO pro-Iraq, yet so unwilling to actually fight for it.
- appleann1, on 12/13/2007, -2/+2The police have a dangerous job, many times coming under fire to protect us. I'm glad they're protecting us, does this mean I should join the force?
Same with firefighters who put their lives on the line. Are we supposed to submit our applications?
You people seem to forget we have a volunteer army.
One more thing, dave has no idea who he is talking to. Many may have served, are serving, have family members serving or lost a loved one in service.
Dave could also be addressing someone with a disability that prevented them from serving. Many volunteer their time in VA hospitals, or support the troops in other ways.
Wonder what dave does to support the troops.
Never mind....I know.
- appleann1, on 12/13/2007, -2/+2The police have a dangerous job, many times coming under fire to protect us. I'm glad they're protecting us, does this mean I should join the force?
- appleann1, on 12/13/2007, -3/+2You are a great one to be talking about examples dave, every time someone calls you on a ridiculous comment you make, lo and behold, gone, never to return.
- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -19/+7Oddly enough, his vivid fantasy world has a deep blue sky.
- remccain, on 12/13/2007, -5/+17Isn't that interesting - I make a comment about how nice it would be to work for Halliburton because you could shoot employees and not worry about US justice... and it just vanishes. Conspiracy? Or just some prick with too much power?
- Doriath, on 12/13/2007, -0/+10Digg is buggy as hell. Comments vanish all the time.
- johnnycornholer, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5I see Digg stories disappear semi-regularly as well. What gives?
- Doriath, on 12/13/2007, -0/+10Digg is buggy as hell. Comments vanish all the time.
- Tangeuray, on 12/14/2007, -0/+2Welcome to BUSH LEAGUE politics...There IS NO LAW....................
- BuckQJohnson, on 12/13/2007, -4/+150These arbitration rules shouldn't be over a criminal act, this isn't a contract dispute it's a RAPE!!!
This is the problem with having civilians in a war zone that have been given in essence the freedom to do what they want. I tend to believe she was gang raped for one, since all of those men have no way of getting any (can't go off base, because they will be murdered or kidnapped and what women that are there are few and far between) so they decided to drug her and rape her. And since the embassy staff had to go and rescue her from the shipping container, it shows that they knew something happened and where trying to hush or shut her up.
Our country and our govt. is regressing big time. We allow state and non-state torture, rape and other atrocities. Isn't any wonder they wouldn't be practicing this on our own people. Thats the problem with Narcissistic behavior and evil intentions, it eventually will feed on the organization (US and people) itself when there isn't anyone to take the punishment they want to dish out. This is what happens when there isn't checks and balances or consequences to individuals that break or commit a criminal act. I feel sorry for the US, because I think that we as a country has been lead down a path that we will all be feeling for decades to come. We are an empire, and every empire falls down every one of them. And how this happens is through internal conflict (mismanagement of govt., greed, corruption) , empirical overreach and financial stupidity. Britain, Rome, Ottoman and many others, couldn't support there overreach because in essence it was to expensive.
Haliburton, Blackwater, Katrina, American infrastructure, injustice and corruption of the rule of law, and many other issues, shows the world and people that can see that something is wrong with this country. One big issue why people don't want to see the problems or are deliberatly ignorant of what going on is that many not all but a large percentage have one foot in the real world and one in the religious rapture is coming world. They are ignoring the real world because they believe the second coming is on its way soon so as long as they "think" they are pious and keeping there faith, they and there ilk will be raptured into heaven and the ones causing the pain or "animals" will be punished. Since they are so scared of organizing and doing there jobs or civic duty, they are praying for god to do the work so they won't have to.
This may sound cruel, but I know alot of individuals that are like this and they seem to have this belief that if you don't believe or do what my religious group or sect believe, then you are a nobody and shouldn't be listened or acknowledge as a person or relevant.- theutopian, on 12/13/2007, -4/+27These people also believe in absolute forgiveness. So they can have their 'failings' and ***** up and sin but they'll all be forgiven in the end anyway. That's how devout Christians rape. That's how devout Christians steal. $5 says all these rapists are Bible thumping Christians. They can all rationalize it in the end as long as they repent cause they'll be forgiven by Jesus and God. It's a sick way of operating in a society that has to have rules. Just go to any Church on a Sunday, how many fat people do you see? How many people in that audience have stolen, cheated on their wives, molested their kids. More than you think. But it will all be okay because you'll be forgiven. That's why we need a savior they say. It's a ***** up way to run a society if you ask me.
- dcmjzero, on 12/13/2007, -22/+7did a christian rape you or something? jeez. you don't have to be christian to be hypocritical. anyone can be a bad person regardless of their religion.
- MWeather, on 12/13/2007, -3/+17"anyone can be a bad person regardless of their religion."
QFT. It's easy to forget, though, because Christians are just so good at it.
- netant, on 12/13/2007, -1/+12ianal,b
1) You cannot send a criminal act to an arbitration panel, even if the victim signs the document. Either the lawyer is being misquoted, or is an utter moron. On the other hand, if the victim is trying to pursue a civil action, she is probably out of luck.
2) In order to pursue a criminal proceeding, it must be done by a gov't court with jurisdiction. No gov't prosecutor, no trial.
3) Its unlikely the prosecutor could win such a case. Particularly, since the rape kit was given back to Halliburton. What could be done is charge Halliburton with abetting a felony, or conspiracy to a felony.
4) The organization most likely able to pursue this case is the Federal gov't. Good luck getting George W Bush's administration into gear. Has anyone seen this story on national TV (other than CNN)?- ozydingo, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3The lawyer is talking about the federal lawsuit that the woman is filing, not about the criminal charges that may or may not be brought against the perpetrators.
- popothebright, on 12/13/2007, -5/+4http://www.teaparty07.com/
- mrg5150, on 12/13/2007, -6/+4Yes, when Democrats take over the White House, all will be well. Right?
- sleze, on 12/13/2007, -0/+14Someone publish the names of the rapists and the execs who covered it up. Photos, addresses, etc. Seems to be working with Lori Drew, the lady who manipulated Megan Meier's suicide.
- Travis29, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Excellent comment, I couldnt agree more. I dated a so called devout Christian for 8 months. This girl waited until she was married to have sex at 20 after a year of being married husband starts abusing her. So she gets divorced 4 years later. Sleeps with 10 guys and 3 girls in 2 years throw in some 3somes and a dash of group sex. She also thought abortion was no big deal. She was on 2 antidepressants and Ritalin. Oh yeah it was a big deal that I wasnt a Christian and didnt go to church like she did....WHAT??? Yeah she really didnt care about anything except jesus. I want absolutely nothing to do with religion whatsoever!!!
- theutopian, on 12/13/2007, -4/+27These people also believe in absolute forgiveness. So they can have their 'failings' and ***** up and sin but they'll all be forgiven in the end anyway. That's how devout Christians rape. That's how devout Christians steal. $5 says all these rapists are Bible thumping Christians. They can all rationalize it in the end as long as they repent cause they'll be forgiven by Jesus and God. It's a sick way of operating in a society that has to have rules. Just go to any Church on a Sunday, how many fat people do you see? How many people in that audience have stolen, cheated on their wives, molested their kids. More than you think. But it will all be okay because you'll be forgiven. That's why we need a savior they say. It's a ***** up way to run a society if you ask me.
- Rotzooi, on 12/13/2007, -77/+5Liberal nonsense.
Vote Republican!- InfamousAtheist, on 12/13/2007, -4/+19Wow, that was a well-reasoned, flawless argument.
You convinced me!
/sarcasm
Troll
/not sarcasm - Herostratus, on 12/13/2007, -22/+5YEAH VOTE RON PAUL!
- moin1097, on 12/13/2007, -7/+3QUIT YELLING AT ME.
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Both of you STOP it! I'll send you both to your rooms without dinner..... um I mean without Digg.
- headt0thebunker, on 12/13/2007, -4/+13Yeah....because they have been doing such a GREAT job so far.....what a dumbass....
- unicronband, on 12/13/2007, -0/+25Yeah, cuz rape is just an invention of the liberal media, huh?
- gak001, on 12/13/2007, -0/+8Don't you mean "librul media"?
- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -10/+2well, there was that UK study that concluded about 60% of rape accusations are false.
- amoirae, on 12/13/2007, -0/+9Which study was that exactly?
- brufleth, on 12/13/2007, -0/+9Are you implying we shouldn't investigate rape charges because some alleged study claims 60% are false? That's some kind of amazing stupidity.
- iRoy, on 12/13/2007, -1/+5Type of ***** one can only find on the internets.
- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -4/+1I'm just saying we shouldn't just ASSUME the guys are guilty. There's a 60% chance that she made it up.
- DeadRepubs, on 12/13/2007, -3/+1The Uk is totalitarian *****,***** 'em
- DeadRepubs, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3In an Insane republicans mind its ok to put women/blacks/other races in thier place,They beat thier wives right?
- Delphium226, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4you are one sarcastic mofo
- jellygraph, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1Blocked again... you are probably one of those Gitmo govt propagandists
- InfamousAtheist, on 12/13/2007, -4/+19Wow, that was a well-reasoned, flawless argument.
- 01l0, on 12/13/2007, -35/+16What happens in Iraq stays in Iraq
- theutopian, on 12/13/2007, -10/+7So wrong yet so funny.
- nebion, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2The sad thing is, this is sometimes true.
It should never be.
- Herostratus, on 12/13/2007, -3/+38Arbitration agreements are always in favor of the corporation. They are serious ***** kangaroo courts
- nebion, on 12/13/2007, -1/+7This is the nature of arbitration agreements...and I dislike them, but the problem in this case isn't so much those agreements as the agreements that somehow manage to nullify criminal law.
She should have standing either under Iraqi law or US law to have the criminal prosecuters handle her case. Even if she were lying (which I consider unlikely in this case), she should get her day in court. There are a lot of things about this case and how it is being handled that don't seem right, and that seriously need clarification or fixing. - roystgnr, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Arbitration contracts are always ludicrous. If you're sure you can win, take the corporation to a real court. If they've committed a crime against you, they don't get to hold you to a contract afterward. I thought our justice system had established that fact, at least since the first big prosecutions of organized crime families.
- mattmy, on 12/13/2007, -2/+2"serious ***** kangaroo courts"
k...
also do you think a company would want you to sign an arbitration agreement thats not in there favor??
- nebion, on 12/13/2007, -1/+7This is the nature of arbitration agreements...and I dislike them, but the problem in this case isn't so much those agreements as the agreements that somehow manage to nullify criminal law.
- evilunleashed, on 12/13/2007, -1/+59The spirit of the contract this woman signed is being exploited to allow criminals to roam free, impresses in their minds that they cannot be held accountable for their crimes, and will inspire them to continue their criminal behavior. That a contract between a company and an employee can over-ride criminal law is evidence that our government has become useless and has no intention of protecting or serving its citizens that don’t pay them directly. This should be in criminal court immediately, monetary compensation is insulting to this victim in particular, and all sexual assault victims generally. To imply that any amount of money can make up for this violation is disgusting. I have now officially lost all faith in the so-called leadership of this country and the people who sit complacently waiting for their turn to be exploited by them. I would contend that if this stands, our nation is no better than Iran, China, and Somalia in protecting the basic human rights of its populace. Every day that the people of this country do not rebel against the government is another day moving towards being the evil that the rest of the world should fear. The Iraqi people are right for wanting us out of their business and country. Who are we to tell them anything about right and wrong, about basic human rights, or about how a government should treat its citizens?
- tsotha, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Actually, assuming the rape actually occurred, the contract she signed has nothing to do with whether or not they go free. The contract is related to civil proceedings, not criminal.
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Exactly. In the US, it's the government that prosecutes. But I'm not sure how it works in Iraq.
- tsotha, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Actually, assuming the rape actually occurred, the contract she signed has nothing to do with whether or not they go free. The contract is related to civil proceedings, not criminal.
- headt0thebunker, on 12/13/2007, -2/+41Regardless of what her contract says.....There is nothing that would stop the federal government from stepping in and firing Haliburton for being freakin troll company that extorts and abuses its employees.....Unless of course if Bush and Cheyne think thats a good thing.
- Haecceity, on 12/13/2007, -3/+18Cheney = Haliburton
- moin1097, on 12/13/2007, -22/+3Michael moore = Haliburton
- amoirae, on 12/13/2007, -1/+10moin1097 = demented crack whore
- moin1097, on 12/13/2007, -22/+3Michael moore = Haliburton
- Haecceity, on 12/13/2007, -3/+18Cheney = Haliburton
- RealHyperX, on 12/13/2007, -31/+10I spent time in the USMC - first gulf war. I can tell you this, I had way too many friends who were accused by women of rape. These women were looking for attention. I do not believe this story until I see proof.
- mrjit, on 12/13/2007, -1/+15Well, in the previous article it was said the doctors found anal and vaginal stress indicative of some type of sexual assault. Unless she enjoys that sort of thing.
- noahhoward, on 12/13/2007, -15/+3Yeah, I mean who ever has rough sex, it must have been rape.
- mrjit, on 12/13/2007, -0/+6Like I said, unless she enjoys that sort of thing. I'll reiterate it again if you miss it this time, too.
- card51short, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3yeah she was probably just having rough anal and vaginal sex out in Iraq...that's why the girls go out there right?
Why will these people apologize for anything that goes against the establishment?
- noahhoward, on 12/13/2007, -15/+3Yeah, I mean who ever has rough sex, it must have been rape.
- ironhide, on 12/13/2007, -5/+14I'm doubting your story...simply because I don't think you have any friends.
- RealHyperX, on 12/13/2007, -5/+3I said I 'had' - not have -- DUH!
- aurorion, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4I don't think you EVER had any friends. So, I'm doubting your story too.
- RealHyperX, on 12/13/2007, -3/+2Liberals usually 'don't think' - so this is something I am used to.
- RealHyperX, on 12/13/2007, -5/+3I said I 'had' - not have -- DUH!
- bbqsalad, on 12/13/2007, -1/+9Not only in the military do women do that. My friend's father was locked up for the last 8 years because a woman said he raped her. 8 years later she admitted she lied and they released him. He was given 1.5million dollars in a lawsuit because of that and the woman was put in prison.
- nebion, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5Does that justify turning the justice system on its head?
In this case, she isn't even permitted to present proof. There's something wrong with that, even if she is lying. - GhostyBoy, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3Rape is very difficult to talk about. It is not a way that people seek to get attention. It is scary, embarasing, traumatic. People are ashamed and most rape victims never come forward. In this situation the international pressure would be nothing short of overwhelming.
And Haliburton has 0 credibility because of it's history of BS and criminal activity. Quite frankly, I say odds are it happened. - spasticjedi, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1People lie about being mugged, as well. People lie about their kids being abducted (Susan Smith?). People lie about all sorts of crimes, so why do we always assume straight away that only rape claims are fabricated?
- mrjit, on 12/13/2007, -1/+15Well, in the previous article it was said the doctors found anal and vaginal stress indicative of some type of sexual assault. Unless she enjoys that sort of thing.
- tman84, on 12/13/2007, -27/+15reason number 1,532,467 to vote for Ron Paul. We'd be out of Iraq along with Halliburton, Blackwater, and every other corrupt organization running wild if Ron Paul was president. None of this beaurocratic BS.
- Ihatehillary, on 12/13/2007, -7/+7***** you Rupaul
- popothebright, on 12/13/2007, -13/+3http://www.teaparty07.com/
- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -5/+6You keep thinking that kid. It's not true, but it helps the rest of us see who the real morons are.
- gemmakicn, on 12/13/2007, -6/+2And with him we'd be back to situations where we women would have no rights what so ever....
- card51short, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1why do you assume that?
- slantyeyed, on 12/13/2007, -2/+3i thought Dennis Kucinich was the Digg candidate?
- GhostyBoy, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4As a Ron Paul supporter I have to say that you are hurting the campaign. You don't use a tragedy like this to promote your candidate. Please find constructive ways to help us. These comments hurt us and make us look foolish.
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1This is clear. Just look at all the Ron Paul spam being dugg down. I guess the strategy is "no publicity is bad publicity".
- ogaj999, on 12/13/2007, -6/+2Hmmm the way things are going with legalese in everything, everyone will have their own personal lawyer, like doctors... along with lawyer insurance. That's just bs she can't do anything in civil court because she of that... I was under the impression that stuff like that hardly holds up in face of large cases like this, shame. I'm pretty sure almost every employment contract, rental contract, and any other contract or agreement has the same arbitration agreement to it. At least I know I've seen it in many of the contracts I've had to sign.
- Ninnux, on 12/13/2007, -25/+4Why on earth do women like that wear so much friggin' eye liner?
- nblsavage, on 12/13/2007, -1/+11like what?
- dcmjzero, on 12/13/2007, -6/+4if the only thing you took away from that story was something about her make-up, then you must be flaming gay.
- RedHairedMan, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3To hide black eyes from being beaten and raped by Haliburton employees, maybe?
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Are you saying Haliburton employees have an uncontrollable fetish for women that wear eye liner?
- jeuhrn, on 12/13/2007, -1/+43Can you actually sign away your constitutional rights in the US? That sounds fishy, in most other ordered countries, any contractual agreement cannot overrule a law. I have only firsthand experience with the laws of Norway, but any such contract clause would be void here.
- theutopian, on 12/13/2007, -3/+12When you join the military you lose the protections of the Constitution. You become beholden unto their own military law. It's sick that you have to give up the very freedom your supposed to be defending and spreading across the globe.
- gemmakicn, on 12/13/2007, -0/+13She didn't join the military she was a contractor.
- theutopian, on 12/13/2007, -1/+9I know, but I was responding to the guy's questions about if anyone can sign away their constitutional rights. The answer is yes.
- gemmakicn, on 12/13/2007, -0/+13She didn't join the military she was a contractor.
- itux1985, on 12/13/2007, -4/+4Yes you can. We are in the process of burning our constitution. But I don't think you have coked out cowboys in Norway, I could be wrong tho.
/sarcasm - gilgamesh23, on 12/13/2007, -1/+5Its a double loophole, while in the States you would still have federal and civil protection but they are in Iraq and signed away on a contract.
- bundwallah, on 12/13/2007, -2/+10Contract Law 101.
You cannot have a contract based on illegal activity. You can't sign your rights away etc. - one2gamble, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4short answer no, long answer, sort of.
As bund said, you cant have a contract based on illegal activity but you can sign away civil action rights under certain circumstances. Since this case is going to civil court it will be interesting to see what happens. Due to the illegal nature of the act it is likely this will stay in court because she did not contract herself out to be gang raped and imprisoned.- nebion, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1Exactly...it seems to be the biggest problem here is the jurisdiction - she's definitely protected by federal law, but federal law doesn't necessarily include rape, and since the incident didn't occur in any federal jurisdiction, the only relief may be in Iraqi courts...
What I hope will happen is that Iraqi courts are deemed valid (which is a good thing for their self-determination) and the appropriate people sancationed.
- nebion, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1Exactly...it seems to be the biggest problem here is the jurisdiction - she's definitely protected by federal law, but federal law doesn't necessarily include rape, and since the incident didn't occur in any federal jurisdiction, the only relief may be in Iraqi courts...
- kalosaurusrex, on 12/13/2007, -1/+1Bills of Rights
Amendment 14
Civil rights
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Per this, she can NOT have her rights taken away!
- theutopian, on 12/13/2007, -3/+12When you join the military you lose the protections of the Constitution. You become beholden unto their own military law. It's sick that you have to give up the very freedom your supposed to be defending and spreading across the globe.
- PsilocybinCube, on 12/13/2007, -3/+23I wonder if these rapists are prosecuted(in front of a jury, not an arbitrator), do you think Bush will pardon them before leaving office?
Or, do you think *****-face cheney will address this issue publicly since he is Mr. Halliburton?
This is a really sad story...I hate the military industrial complex. If these guys are proven guilty, but not made to go to court, we're gonna see some vigilanty justice.- popothebright, on 12/13/2007, -10/+2http://www.teaparty07.com/
- aurorion, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Nixon pardoned the My Lai butchers, didn't he?
- BrandonAbell, on 12/13/2007, -1/+29Anybody found the names of the "alleged" perps yet? The trick here is to make them so afraid for their own safety that they beg to be put under criminal law and in prison. At the very least they need to be made unhireable and forced to live out in the docks away from from anybody else.
- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -9/+4Yeah! Mob justice without a trial! Do you plant to lynch them while you're at it?
- sinrtb, on 12/13/2007, -0/+13Well considering there is not going to be a trial...
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1If I accused your mom of raping me, should we maker her "so afraid for her safety" too? Accusations are not proof of guilt in the US..... yet.
- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -9/+4Yeah! Mob justice without a trial! Do you plant to lynch them while you're at it?
- kurtwinter, on 12/13/2007, -5/+17I think we need to exercise a little street justice for these *****. What jury would convict someone who put a scumbag gang rapist in the hospital with a broken jaw anyway?
- noahhoward, on 12/13/2007, -7/+8Innocent until proven guilty is alive and well I see.
- allfatherblack, on 12/13/2007, -1/+11Im not sure that it can be argued that she wasnt raped at this point, so someones (most likely) guilty. Kurt is generalizing that whoever did the raping should be punished with "street justice", which appears to me to insinuate that they wouldve already been "proven guilty."
Burying your comment for knee-jerk reaction.- noahhoward, on 12/13/2007, -9/+1I'm not buying that, as cornswalled points out you could catch a militant muslim with the pin half pulled out of the grenade and people act like it is a crime against humanity to a.) arrest him, or b.) shoot his ass before he finishes. Even if these guys were caught in the act, hypocrisy is still hypocrisy.
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Okay your elegant argument convinced me. Let's go straight to the sentencing phase. Heck, let's just clear all the US court dockets. Anyone accused of a crime is now officially guilty. Go directly to jail and do not pass Go.
- allfatherblack, on 12/21/2007, -0/+1Your sarcasm aside, I did not mean to insinuate that I want to "kick ass and forego taking names because I might realize Im kicking the ass of the wrong person". Im just saying that if you PROVE without a doubt someone raped someone else, please, by all means, street justify that ass. When you murder someone, you kill them. Their dead. Their problems are over. When you RAPE someone, youre TORTURING THEM FOR LIFE, and I hope that any and every confirmed VIOLENT rapist, regardless of how sorry they might be, is (fill in whatever you think the worst thing that can happen to a living creature is).
- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -9/+1Didn't you know the Liberal Justice equation?
Muslim accused of terrorism = Saint deserving a trial and eventual release.
American Soldier accused of ANYTHING = Demon deserving death
See how simple it is when you drink the Moonbat kool-aid?
- allfatherblack, on 12/13/2007, -1/+11Im not sure that it can be argued that she wasnt raped at this point, so someones (most likely) guilty. Kurt is generalizing that whoever did the raping should be punished with "street justice", which appears to me to insinuate that they wouldve already been "proven guilty."
- noahhoward, on 12/13/2007, -7/+8Innocent until proven guilty is alive and well I see.
- otheruser, on 12/13/2007, -0/+68Absolutely ***** disgusting.
This woman was raped, severely disfigured and traumatized beyond belief. Army doctors confirmed she was raped, and the State Department acknowledges that they had to rescue her from a shipping container.
This is sickening.- Infowarmachine, on 12/13/2007, -1/+20they gave the rape evidence to KBR (part of halliburton) which promptly destroyed the evidence ofcourse..
- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -20/+1Riiiight.
- vade79, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Did you even watch the video? Said it as clear as day...Oh, they "lost" it. Nevermind, i trust Halliburton!
- cornswalled, on 12/13/2007, -20/+1Riiiight.
- diggingaround, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4Give us some names... we can take care of the rest...
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1The "Army doctors confirmed she was raped?" Wow, they must have some Roswell technology because it isn't possible to confirm that a rape occurred by looking at physical evidence. Unless of course, the "Army Doctor" witnessed it.
And before you lose your mind, I'm not saying she wasn't raped. I'm saying that I don't know and unless you were there with the "Army Doctor" witness, you don't either.
- Infowarmachine, on 12/13/2007, -1/+20they gave the rape evidence to KBR (part of halliburton) which promptly destroyed the evidence ofcourse..
- MerryMortician, on 12/13/2007, -1/+38hey.. no problem. that means the contract should also cover her when she finds each one of them and chops off their balls right?
- PsilocybinCube, on 12/13/2007, -0/+7nice observation!!!
- R3yDigg, on 12/13/2007, -17/+9Allegations do not equal guilt, it's ridiculous to equate "alleged may go free" to some great miscarriage of justice. The burden of proof is on the accuser, after all who here would consider going to jail because of allegations justice? If you are going to attack a company you disagree with at least use information with some substance.
- nblsavage, on 12/13/2007, -3/+7hey..if they have nothing to hide why don't the accused come forward...what's the problem? Isn't that what all the 'cons say about all the ***** they give the administration a free pass on?
- evilunleashed, on 12/13/2007, -0/+9There is no doubt that if there was no rape there should be no charges. But if there is a rape then a civil arbitration is not the way it should be handled, and monetary compensation is insufficient justice. And an employment contract should not be twisted to allow criminals to walk free. The spirit of the contract is to allow the corporation to resolve disputes without going to court, and I have no problem with that if it were an issue of something like her paycheck was shorted or her she was fired because or her religion, things of that nature. To twist that to allow criminals to walk free is deplorable. You can bet your ass that Halliburton would press criminal charges if she had embezzled $350k out of their pockets.
- orangester, on 12/13/2007, -4/+23Wake the ***** up people! Not only do I believe rapists should be skinned alive, but the fact that they are getting away with it? Money buys anything in this world I guess.
How ***** sick.
If they get off scott free or with a rediculously low punishment, violence is justified. - Alphateam, on 12/13/2007, -22/+18She is hot though.
- moin1097, on 12/13/2007, -32/+8I'd hit it. If she wasn't charging for it like she probably did in Iraq.
- ironhide, on 12/13/2007, -2/+10That was uncalled for.
- Alphateam, on 12/13/2007, -16/+3I'm sure she made good money. Have you see pics of those Iraqi women...I wouldn't do 99.9999999% of them for free. You know they have a HUGE bush. Like Buckwheat in a leg lock. That chic looks like she shaves and washes.
- rot13ubercrypto, on 12/13/2007, -0/+9Wow...I was tempted to post something involving you being a loathsome little toad....but I will anyway, you loathsome little toad.
- amoirae, on 12/13/2007, -0/+11Let's hope moin1097 gets gangraped by Halliburton thugs.
I know what I'm asking Santa for...- aurorion, on 12/13/2007, -0/+6He might enjoy it though.
- alphasixtyone, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1***** disgusting
- ironhide, on 12/13/2007, -2/+10That was uncalled for.
- dorkino, on 12/13/2007, -11/+5No, she's really not that great looking
- moin1097, on 12/13/2007, -32/+8I'd hit it. If she wasn't charging for it like she probably did in Iraq.
- regggdigg, on 12/13/2007, -2/+30Isn't Halliburton gang raping the whole country?
- shagwAg3n, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1touche mr salesman, touche.
- AceOfficeSpace, on 12/13/2007, -0/+7What a wretched, horrible case.
- borisyelker, on 12/13/2007, -0/+0Somewhere in America, Lady Liberty (aka Jessica Lynch) is crying.
- cec4242, on 12/13/2007, -13/+7Buried. Inaccurate
Employment Arbitration Agreements only bind the employee in civil causes of action against their employer.
Meaning she can't sue Haliburton.
The District attorney or whomever has jurisdiction can do what ever the hell he/she feels is justified.
If there is evidence her allegations are true there will be charges filed.
There fore they will not "go free"- moin1097, on 12/13/2007, -22/+2Don't ruin the hate bush-cheney-haliburton-America vibe the liberals have going.
- mattmy, on 12/13/2007, -1/+4yeah because only liberally minded people don't support gang rape
- Infowarmachine, on 12/13/2007, -1/+14you might want to hold burrying it as inaccurate till you find out that they arent even IN custody
they arent even being investigated
and nothing is being done at all to bring them to justice
not only are they 'going free' they are staying free... they havent even been arrested - dt07, on 12/13/2007, -2/+7Haven't you noticed Cheney does what he wants......
- moin1097, on 12/13/2007, -22/+2Don't ruin the hate bush-cheney-haliburton-America vibe the liberals have going.
- effedup, on 12/13/2007, -7/+8I find..as a general rule..any story that has spelling or grammatical errors, isn't to be taken seriously. Even worse, when sentences miss words such as "in a" (shipping container), credibility is thrown right out the window.
- allfatherblack, on 12/13/2007, -2/+5Well everyone has stupid foibles :D
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Evry respectible auther has spel chek and grammer chek.
- robberry, on 12/13/2007, -1/+12"I find..as a general rule..any story that has spelling or grammatical errors, isn't to be taken seriously."
Ellipses have three periods, not two, and there should be a space after the final period. Furthermore, you should be using commas here, not ellipses. In addition, the clause "as a general rule" should be at the start of the sentence, not between "I find" and "any story". Finally, the last comma in the sentence (between "errors" and "isn't") shouldn't be there.- AustinMandi, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3Dugg. Hard. But please don't correct my grammar!
- robberry, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2Don't worry. I don't normally make it my mission to play grammar nazi on the web. But if somebody is going to dismiss an important story simply because the story's submitter made a few grammatical errors, then that person's own grammar had better be impeccable. And not only was effedup's grammar *not* impeccable, it doesn't look like he was even trying.
- AustinMandi, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3Dugg. Hard. But please don't correct my grammar!
- lhbaker, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1You're right. The typos make the story false. People who can't type are total liars. Take my wife. Please.
- allfatherblack, on 12/13/2007, -2/+5Well everyone has stupid foibles :D
- rmxz, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5This could be an interesting test to see if the new Iraqi government is a valid functioning government or more of a puppet of Haliburton.
Surely what's alleged is illegal in Iraq, no?
Perhaps she could file charges with the Iraqi government.
If they have a legal system that can hold a fair trial f0r this case, that'd be a pretty impressive milestone for the government there. If it can't, it doesn't look like much of a government.- PopcornDave, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3Although given that some of Sharia law says that an unmarried woman can't be with men she isn't related to ( and yes that's a paraphrasing of the law ) and given their attitudes towards rape victims in the Middle Eastern countries, I'm not sure I'd necessarily want the case tried in Iraq
- shagwAg3n, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1not to mention they probably don't have jurisdiction over the employees of halliburton. just as the blackwater employees couldn't be held after that massacre.
- rmxz, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1Which would indeed make this a good test case.
Surely any country that doesn't have jurisdiction of rapes that happen in that country doesn't have a very valid government, does it?
- rmxz, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1Which would indeed make this a good test case.
- shagwAg3n, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1not to mention they probably don't have jurisdiction over the employees of halliburton. just as the blackwater employees couldn't be held after that massacre.
- PopcornDave, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3Although given that some of Sharia law says that an unmarried woman can't be with men she isn't related to ( and yes that's a paraphrasing of the law ) and given their attitudes towards rape victims in the Middle Eastern countries, I'm not sure I'd necessarily want the case tried in Iraq
- glowend, on 12/13/2007, -1/+7There's no way that this alleged contract term could be enforced. Otherwise, she could simply kill her rapists and then they'd have to arbitrate that as well. No, you cannot use a contract to get away with rape.
- allfatherblack, on 12/13/2007, -3/+15Wow if you really want to think of the costs of the war and how ***** terrible and lawless and corrupt our current Administration is, then consider that Bush's actions are one of the factors that DIRECTLY resulted in this poor lady getting gang raped. No pass for all the other piece of ***** sell-out presidents who have given corporations immoral passes for... ohh... a little over 200 hundred years now.
And on a note only slightly related to this article;
How the ***** hell can you still support Bush? There can be no argument at this moment in time that, at least until we've forgotten about him, Bush will be considered the worst and most corrupt president in American history. And not only by the Americans over which he governed, but by the ENTIRE ***** WORLD. Bush has accumulated ALMOST as much bad press as ***** Hitler and he hasnt even done anything he could be punished for without... ah damn it, I was the one who inevitably brought up Hitler in a debate... damn it!
Whatever, considering what all has happened during his terms, theres no doubt that it will be hard to NOT say "Bush" when youre listing off horrible political influences.
Its too late to impeach. Assassinate.
(and no, I will not assassinate the president. I will only dream...)- dasheel, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2You really shouldn't disparage Hitler by comparing him to Bush.
- Tangeuray, on 12/14/2007, -0/+2Yea at least Hitler's People loved him....He was Christian....
- dasheel, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2You really shouldn't disparage Hitler by comparing him to Bush.
- elister, on 12/13/2007, -0/+6The paper she signed is not a get out of court free card for Haliburton. This is a federal crime, this will go to court. If this was something petty like theft or property damage, yeah I can see it being arbitrated, but this was a more serious crime. I mean would you arbitrate if an employee murdered another employee? HELL NO!
Regardless if shes telling the truth or not, this should go to trial. News channels traditional have brainless idiots on camera. - macdude22, on 12/13/2007, -4/+23Only in America can rape be called a civil matter. Thanks to the Republicans my tax dollars foot the bill for her rape too, FANTASTIC.
- lyzz, on 12/13/2007, -2/+5People who blame one party are only making the issue worse. Your tax dollars also paid for Clinton's "sexy time" cigars and numerous other things that you don't approve of. All corruption in government is wrong. The officials should be judged not as a party, but on their own merits.
By attacking a party, you mask bigger issues that plague the US government. - yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Do you realize there is more than one use of the word "civil" or are you just trying to be clever?
- lyzz, on 12/13/2007, -2/+5People who blame one party are only making the issue worse. Your tax dollars also paid for Clinton's "sexy time" cigars and numerous other things that you don't approve of. All corruption in government is wrong. The officials should be judged not as a party, but on their own merits.
- rot13ubercrypto, on 12/13/2007, -0/+9Whoa whoa whoa
"I think after all the press that we've seen, that is going to come, but this is a civil action, an action that she is bringing and typically when you bring a civil action, you can bring it according to The constitution or according to your rights you can bring it in a court of law. She signed that right away with her employment contract and people do it all the time."
Arbitration is for civil suits. Whether she manages to deservedly milk the loathsome little toads for all they're worth or not in a civil court, the JD can and should still prosecute. You do not go to jail for losing a civil suit (look at the OJ case.) You can (and in this case should) go to jail for raping someone. - SPL3000, on 12/13/2007, -1/+11The legal analyst is plain wrong, a private contract cannot go against the constitution, it does not matter if she signed it, you just cannot agree to go against the law. She can file a civil lawsuit AND a penal case. Any honest lawyer will corroborate this.
- slantyeyed, on 12/13/2007, -6/+2I think she can file as many penile cases as there were penii.
- bcbrin20, on 12/13/2007, -5/+5in my opinion..if you're guilt can be proven without a shadow of a doubt (several eye witnesses, video tape, insurmountable evidence, etc), then we should bring back the gallows for them....what we can hang hussein on youtube but these ***** get off scott free? dont get me wrong..girls can lie...but still
- CygonX, on 12/13/2007, -15/+1Okay, it’s sad and all that she got raped and the people that did it may not suffer any legal consequences. But the bigger question may be, why would anyone willfully engage in intercourse with that ugly of a woman, much less with her as an unwilling participant. I mean maybe if you just got out of prison on a 20 year bit and had recently consumed a large quantity of alcohol…would she be an excusable screw, otherwise Halliburton has bound to have the means to import pornography, which any man with good vision surely would prefer.
- Blacky, on 12/13/2007, -7/+1I'm not kidding, I clicked the article, saw the pic, went back to digg comments on article, ctrl-f, type-in ugly, found your comment, and dugg it!
- PopcornDave, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4You have just single handedly brought up the most compelling defense for her alleged assailants. "No your honor we didn't rape her. Look how ugly she is!"
Have much luck with the opposite sex lately? - apetrie, on 12/13/2007, -1/+3You sir, are a waste of air. I pray you are incapable of reproducing you slimey, disgusting, worthless bastard.
- mattmy, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1she does look half retarded in that pic her others are better though
- Tangeuray, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Have you seen the rednecks at Halliburton? Texas/Oaklahoma's finest :((((
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Wait for it........
- synthpop, on 12/13/2007, -1/+6they're raping them over there so that they don't get raped over here
- slantyeyed, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2what was her job over there?
- lhbaker, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Rapee
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Disgusting! .... Clever?!?!? yes.... but still disgusting!
- lhbaker, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1Rapee
- daxsymbiont, on 12/13/2007, -3/+2"it's a war".
- gregdbowen, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2what in the hell does that mean?
- lhbaker, on 12/14/2007, -0/+2Then it's a war crime.
- BuckQJohnson, on 12/15/2007, -0/+1Thats right daxsymbiont it is a war, but they aren't in the military because if they where the would fall under the UCMJ (uniform code of military justice). And since they are civilians, they are either in the jurisdiction of the country that brought them into Iraq (US) or they are under the jurisdiction of Iraq. But that won't happen because of Paul Bremers immunity clause for contractors in Iraq. But I don't know if it would still work for contractor on contractor assault, but since it happened in Iraq I guess they have some immunity.
And as you saying that it's war, war has rules and should. Because if it doesn't, we would be living in a world of Tooth and Claw. Rules help to protect the loser from outright extermination. If there isn't any rules, then the winner could kill off all of the men, kill all of the male children and take the women and younger women in any way they see fit for there pleasure. And if they give them any lip, they could just get rid of them. The problem with alot of patriotic torture when must kill them all individuals is that they think that the US will never lose a major war or get invaded and occupied (1812, spanish american war, long time ago but people forget). And if the enemy has the same cavalier attitude about atrocities like you do "it's a war", then one day you might see your neighbors wife being thrown down to the ground and abused and her daughter will be right beside her being abused and raped also.
Because total war without rules or checks and balances make the victor Hubristic in there attitudes and diets, and they could get away with doing anything to the vanquished because they can.
- ncc74656m, on 12/13/2007, -1/+5So, if I get a job with Halliburton, kill say Bush or Cheney when they visit Iraq, am I too immune from prosecution?
What if I decide to plant bombs at Halliburton facilities there and kill hundreds of their employees?
A crime is a crime. Something as heinous as rape should NEVER be excused or dismissed.- Tweekster, on 12/13/2007, -2/+1unless its a clown. then its just plain funny
- slonrgjon, on 12/13/2007, -8/+3she's pretty hot
- Tweekster, on 12/13/2007, -3/+2I'd hit it
- drmangrum, on 12/13/2007, -0/+4Simple solution. Guns are widely available, so are explosives. Kill the rapists and then demand that the company "arbitrate."
- jonbruc, on 12/13/2007, -0/+3I don't think the binding arbitration clause releases them from criminal law. If you had a terminal disease, and signed a contract that allowed your friend to kill you, that doesn't release them from the law that says its illegal to kill a person.
- PsilocybinCube, on 12/13/2007, -0/+6we need to figure out the names of those who did this...and get pictures of them too
- TrogdorSmash24, on 12/13/2007, -7/+2That girl looks like she has a dick tranny?
- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1You have knowledge that only the rapist could have! TrogdorSmash24 is the rapist GET HIM!
- ClaudiuUSA, on 12/13/2007, -6/+3Why does my Firefox tab say "CNN legal anal" . . . ?
Eew.- yojiffyskippy, on 12/14/2007, -0/+1That all depends on what state you're from.
- stinkythegrump, on 12/13/2007, -0/+5Who's the Mongoloid who wrote this?? Article has some serious errors...
- petebert, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1who are the rapists? most KBR employees I came across were not Americans.
- liquisoft, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1That's horrible. There is a reason rapists are usually separated from the rest of the inmates in prison: the prisoners (murderers, etc) don't take kindly to rapists and oftentimes beat them bloody or kill them.
- mrzack, on 12/13/2007, -0/+2She needs to be like Jodie Foster in that movie "the Brave One" and take the revenge into her own hands...AR15?...
- shagwAg3n, on 12/13/2007, -0/+0she can borrow mine
- cuoops, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1They got the camp name wrong. There's no Camp Hogan. It happened at Camp Hope (Diwaniyeh). http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/ ...
- oyflaaaayvin, on 12/13/2007, -1/+5"Because of an employment contract signed by Halliburton employees requiring that all disputes be settled out of court, a legal analyst for CNN says employees alleged of gang raping a former employee may go free."
So basically she has the right to murder everyone that raped her. They wouldn't be able to do anything about it in court... I would toss a nade into the haliburton cafeteria if I were her, then get the hell out of there. This pisses me off so much. *fume*- Quaterni0n, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1Yeah WTF. This isn't an emplyee/employer dispute, it's a ***** felony.
- DangerCollie, on 12/13/2007, -0/+7You can't arbitrate away liability for criminal acts or unlawful imprisonment. Everything I learned in contract classes indicated that criminal conduct voids a contract. INAL but I'll be really surprised if they can waive liability for something like this. Unless Haliburton is trying to argue rape isn't a crime in Iraq or that they can't be held liable for crimes committed by employees in another country.
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