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- inactive, on 09/23/2009, -7/+46I think the whole sex scandal thing is a red herring. I don't give a ***** who they are ***** as long as they aren't ***** the American people.
- one504, on 09/23/2009, -2/+23Scandal or not, Edwards never really set America on fire.
- scottpigeon, on 09/23/2009, -6/+25The politicians that want to legislate morals deserve more flack for being a hypocrite in addition to the affair.
- novenator, on 09/23/2009, -12/+26Funny how every time a Republican gets caught with his pants down, they bring up John Edwards, who never claimed the mantle of 'moral highground' or 'family values' in the first place. Not excusing what he did, but saying that those who appease the religious right (John Ensign, Mark Sanford, Larry Craig, etc.) should be held to a higher standard of morals if they try to claim moral superiority in the first place.
- Pxtl, on 09/23/2009, -0/+11Hipocrisy. Spitzer went after money-launderers and the prostitution industry, and was a patron of it himself.
The one that always surprises me is Gingrich... the guy is such a big family-values dude, and yet has been married so many times, including cheating-on-and-divorcing a woman with uterine cancer (very similar to Edwards in that score). - poprocksandsoda, on 09/23/2009, -2/+12Actually I think people on both sides are generally under the belief that what happens in the bedroom should not be brought into the limelight, however CHEATING ON YOUR WIFE WHO HAS CANCER AND IS DYING is generally frowned upon.
- ianzu, on 09/23/2009, -4/+13Because at the end of the day it doesn't ***** matter.
- phogasmic, on 09/23/2009, -7/+14I don't know why Spritzer wasn't forgiven, but I know why Republicans aren't, particularly ones from the far right. It's because Republicans always try to claim the moral high ground so when they are caught its not only infidelity but also hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is much harder to forgive then infidelity
- Phernoree, on 09/23/2009, -5/+11John Edwards, Eliot Spitzer, Bill Clinton, JFK... The severity of their extramarital affairs is less significant than those of Republican sex scandals because all Republicans are religious crazies. Point taken.
John Edwards will be back. Eliot Spitzer is making the rounds on television, Bill Clinton is very active, and JFK is a cultural icon. - gizram84, on 09/23/2009, -4/+10I 100% agree. Committing perjury is a completely different story though.
- Mankrik, on 09/23/2009, -3/+9Double standard? Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there's a huge double standard being applied to the democrats.
Everything Bush did was 'all hunky-dorey' and fine and good, and you should follow the president and support your government through hard times. Then suddenly now that Obama's in office, it's all "protect your rights, don't let him steal your guns, yada yada"
I mean, as a Canadian, I've never really gotten this impression of this alleged 'liberal media' in America; all the noise I hear is from the right, and boy are they loud. - Pxtl, on 09/23/2009, -0/+6Yep. Edwards' political career is over.
So, what about Newt Gingrich? - itstodd, on 09/23/2009, -5/+10if you are going to be in public office and have an affair, and your not smart enough to figure out how to keep it private, you should be kicked out for being an idiot...
- parisii, on 09/23/2009, -0/+5yet another brain dead Republican.
what are Republican values? kills babies in illegal wars so that you can have cheap gas? Is that your morality? Seriously... burn children alive with phosphorus bombs so you can have a big car?
you scum bag.
- Swivelstick, on 09/23/2009, -0/+5Well lets be honest it is a lot better when it is bad and dirty.
- pilgrim3970, on 09/23/2009, -0/+5 or Rudy Giulliani for that matter.
- phoenixgtr, on 09/23/2009, -0/+4Yeah. Those Argentinian chicks are hot
- jbwages, on 09/23/2009, -3/+7The issue isn't about their personal lives, it's the act of lying under oath. I couldn't care if they religiously ***** camels. I also agree that personal investigations on these acts shouldn't exist or at least not be in the public eye. But, if you're under oath, don't lie. As a servant of the people, under their laws, these politicians should answer honestly.
- FAT_PIGGY, on 09/23/2009, -0/+4LOL
- appleseed1234, on 09/23/2009, -1/+5It's the ones with the real power who come out of these alive, media/corporate ties, damage control, you know it's those ones who truly aren't working for the people. Without that, even the ones who put their head down and aren't against these interests are typically damned.
- parisii, on 09/23/2009, -0/+3are you always this freaking stupid or do you just play this stupid on dig?
Larry Craig has a moral core, I suppose, for being anti-gay and trolling for blow jobs in the men's bathroom at the airport? Sanford has a moral core that includes lying to his staff because he's infatuated and takes off for Argentina for some Spanish on the fly?
Rush Limbaugh has a moral core b/c he ranted against drug abusers until he himself was caught abusing hillbilly heroin and then he think at least one drug abuser should be forgiven - and THEN gets caught with an illegal viagra prescription after returning to the U.S. from a known child sex vacation destination?
Bob Barr licks whipped cream off the nipple of a stripper while railing against Clinton. Hyde's affairs were all part of his life while he chided Clinton on his affair. Dan Burton had a second wife and child, basically, while lecturing the rest of us on family values...
that republican moral core smells the like rotting flesh of hypocrisy... and you, apparently, are so stupid you refuse to see this. - pilgrim3970, on 09/23/2009, -0/+3there really is no difference regardless of the motivation. Either way, there is an attempt to legislatively enforce a certain ethic or morality.
- NoTiG, on 09/24/2009, -0/+3I can't wait for an atheist bachelor to become president who has sex and playboy parties on the white house lawn.
that might be pushing it.........
you know all of the presidents though are just power hungry bastards who probably had lots and lots of sex. they just hid it . That is if they weren't impotent. - whoatemytuna, on 09/23/2009, -0/+3You're wrong Pilgrim, laws aren't (or shouldn't be) a reflection of morality. Ideally a law is a reflection of its benefit to society as a whole. An ideal law is one that benefits the most number of people the most amount of the time and has no basis in any moral code. I don't think anyone is morally opposed to speeding, they are opposed to it because of the danger it presents. The problem with laws is when they are solely based on personal morality of as relatively small group of people and have no basis in a rational benefit to society as a whole. There is no better example of this than law that encroach on personal rights that have no significant impact on society as a whole. While there have been successful attempts to legislate morals in the past, (such as anti-abortion laws) those laws are generally very controversial and also generally the easiest to defeat when a problem arises.
- jbwages, on 09/23/2009, -2/+5"They shouldn't have to answer questions about their personal lives under oath."
Well, that would depend on the nature of the case, now wouldn't it? - Beylan, on 09/23/2009, -2/+5Clinton was caught lying under oath while being questioned during a sexual harassment lawsuit. In that circumstance there is every right for him to be questioned about his 'personal activities'.
- rocknog, on 09/23/2009, -0/+3Well, I think the real issue with things like gay marriage is that people are trying to force their religious beliefs on others. That's what I find appalling. The people out there fighting against gay marriage openly admit that their motivations are religious in nature, and yet for some reason, no one has a problem with that.
- phogasmic, on 09/23/2009, -0/+3Oh, so thats why Spitzer wasn't forgiven then. Like I said I think hypocrisy is less forgivable then infidelity.
- Sinn3r, on 09/23/2009, -0/+3If Hilary was my wife, I'd ***** around too.
- mine4321, on 09/23/2009, -1/+4This is the Internet... you're basically arguing with yourself.
- Pxtl, on 09/23/2009, -0/+2I tend to think there are lines that get crossed, though. Prostitutes are crossing the line. Wife-with-cancer is crossing the line (why Gingrich was forgiven is beyond me). Hypocrisy is crossing the line (which is why gay republicans are so notable). Underage is crossing the line.
But yeah, otherwise I think the public can deal with it. The people who hated Bill for Monica weren't going to vote for a Democrat anyways. - PoisonousDrool, on 09/23/2009, -1/+3Quoting from Mickey Kaus's August 13 blog:
3) Please do not forget that in his August, 2008 Nightline 'confession,'--"I take full responsibility"--Edwards didn't just deny paternity but said paternity was "not possible" because the affair with Hunter was over when the baby must have been conceived. To do otherwise would have interfered with his carefully crafted modified limited story about the affair--that it involved "a short period in 2006" and ended before Elizabeth's cancer recurred and before he went galavanting around the country advertising his fidelity and good character. If Edwards is in fact the father this entire fallback edifice of BS crumbles. ... It's worth reading the transcript of the ABC interview--practically every sentence out of Edwards' mouth is a lie. He doesn't know who the baby was in the Enquirer's photos, suggests the photos were doctored, doesn't know whether Andrew Young, the aide who took the fall, is the father, says Rielle Hunter's hiring as a videographer had nothing to do with the affair, etc.. And he does it all sanctimoniously. - pilgrim3970, on 09/23/2009, -2/+4EXACTLY.
IMHO, if you can't be faithful to your spouse whom you entered into a covenant with when you said your vows, then how can you really be trusted to keep your promise to those who voted you into office. Because when you get down to it, whn you are talking politicians, there is, in many cases, misappropriation of funds which means they haven't just betrayed their spouse but the taxpayers.
No, your personal life does have a direct bearing on your public one which is why people need to be voting the person, not the party, or the campaign rhetoric. - fleischkopf, on 09/23/2009, -2/+4I don't know what's more offensive, the fact that John Edwards cheated on his wife while she had cancer, the fact that he claimed he only did it while she was in remission as if that somehow makes it less *****, or the fact that he told his mistress he would get Dave Matthews Band for their wedding.
- govtdoesnotwork, on 09/25/2009, -0/+2Both major parties' ACTUAL religion is worship of big government, regardless of rhetoric to the contrary that fools most rubes during campaign season...
- inactive, on 09/23/2009, -1/+3Democrat politicians don't run on family values or religion? ***** Jon Edwards was on the campaign trail, trotting out his cancer ridden wife as a political ploy to show what a great family man he is while he was bagging some staffer on the side.
- govtdoesnotwork, on 09/25/2009, -0/+2The ones in airport bathroom stalls seem to have very little interest in vagina...
- mine4321, on 09/23/2009, -2/+4Now post where one Republican came out and admitted he was gay. Good for Jim McGreevey for finally being honest with himself and the people who elected him. That takes real courage.
- rocknog, on 09/23/2009, -0/+2I think you have to consider the individual circumstances. I mean, in Mark Sanford's case, not only did he cheat, but he was caught because he disappeared. Then there was the whole business of him defending the affair afterward. If he hadn't basically abandoned his post, and if he hadn't been so damn weird about the whole thing after he was caught, I think people would've forgotten about it.
- Beylan, on 09/23/2009, -1/+3If his wife is ok with him screwing someone else, I don't care. Using taxpayer funds to fly to Argentina for his weekend love fests should get him hanged though.
- scrivener212, on 09/26/2009, -0/+2Because they aren't bald-faced hypocrites talking family values and ordering the casting-out of other public figures who have strayed while using their power and money and office to do as they please behind the veil of sanctity. Do I have to explain EVERYTHING?
- SirCharge, on 09/24/2009, -0/+2"Culture watchers have said Edwards could redeem himself if he follows the accepted script"
Go back into time and don't cheat on your cancer suffering wife. - WarJack, on 09/25/2009, -0/+2The reason why they get away with it is simply the fact that after a while people may not forget about it but they don't care anymore unless it was something extremely criminal.
- hornfinger, on 09/23/2009, -4/+6Why do they get away with it? Because it has absolutely nothing to do with governing. They can screw who they like, the corruption is far more damaging
- diggdowner, on 09/23/2009, -0/+2Psychic talk show host?
- 17999, on 09/23/2009, -0/+2Better yet, who cares?
Roosevelt, Ike, Kennedy... the list goes on of good leaders with bits on the side. - Lomstradamus, on 09/23/2009, -3/+4I rest my balls...
on your chin. - parisii, on 09/27/2009, -0/+1so, you're just an idiot, pal? because your comment is stupid. Larry Craig, Mark Sanford...what's the name of the republican who was soliciting underage pages while being so against the gay agenda (maybe b/c it would cut into his pedophile time?) Rush Limbaugh, junkie who rails against junkies who aren't him? Henry Hyde, Dan Burton, Bob Barr, all ***** around on their spouses while railing against Clinton?
you are a major dumbass. - pintomp3, on 09/23/2009, -4/+5Until blowjobs from consenting adults become illegal, he should not have had to answer those questions under oath.
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