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- SeethisPass, on 11/14/2007, -85/+444Old news to those of us with the golden tin foil hats that have allowed us to see and hear the truth for all of these 6 years.
What do you wear that keeps you under the control of the conspiracy?
The answer is , A remote control. - TwwIX, on 11/14/2007, -14/+209lol Who cares at this point.
We have enough credible reasons to hang every one of them yet we Americans can't even ***** impeach them. - spyd3rweb, on 11/15/2007, -13/+189Bin Laden was on CIA payroll back when he was fighting the soviets.
- Dysarthria, on 11/14/2007, -59/+165This is all *****.
I have a friend on the NYC police department, he reads minds. He was in Saudi Arabia chasing the Nightmare man with the halp an Indian scientist and an indestructible cheerleader. He found Bin Laden with the help of a 9-year old girl who "imagined" him at this hospital. They almost took Bin Laden out; but the company found them. They sent a bald Hatian man to erase their minds, but he ended up joining his cause. Unfortunately, before they could act, the whole lot of them was inadvertently transported forward in time to 2007 by an diminutive Japanese man with an incorrect but fervent understanding of the space-time continuum. Finally, they planted the story in a French newspaper. Why? To alert the man in the horn-rimmed glasses they had returned, of course!
Why can't Americans see the truth? - Grumps, on 11/14/2007, -44/+139CIA was meeting Bin Laden to finalize their plan for treason.
- DiggMasterJ, on 11/14/2007, -64/+135Riddle me this:
What glows yellow and flows like a river, is ignored by hundreds of millions, implies the unthinkable, and can't be explained by debunkers?
I know the vast majority of people couldn't care less, and would never consider getting off their couch to do work they don't get paid for. But until you can understand what I am talking about, just keep your mouth shut on the subject. The Truthers aren't all stupid, the people who refuse to look at the mountain of evidence and analise it for themselves simply because Faux news says the "crazy conspiracy has been debunked" are the ones who are stupid. - doctorfungi, on 11/14/2007, -64/+128Bernard Koval, the director of the hospital, also denied the terrorist had been a patient there, saying "Osama bin Ladin has never been here. He's never been a patient and he's never been treated here. We have no idea of his medical condition. This is too small a hospital for someone to be snuck through the backdoor."
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/kidney.htm
http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin_met_the_cia ... - f4nt0m4s, on 11/14/2007, -11/+70"Think for yourself, question authority."
- DocHoliday22, on 11/14/2007, -19/+78I don't know what to believe any more...
- kraant, on 11/14/2007, -20/+72Well of course he'd deny it.
- sentime, on 11/14/2007, -5/+55believe we're being screwed, and they don't even kiss us
- Richandler, on 11/14/2007, -22/+72People never listen to me but the CIA is behind a lot of things that we don't know about. Think of it right now. They created Al-Queda, the trafficed drugs to the US from South America in the 80, they have tried to throw over world leaders all the time and are trying to do Iran as we speak, the fabricated the Iraqi WMD evidence, and they are probably trafficing the Afghani opium into this country.
The CIA is really who's incharge, not Bush not Cheney, helle they probably both truley believe in their idiot causes. It's the CIA who's is doing all this *****. - sentime, on 11/14/2007, -12/+57The Bin Laden family told me it wasn't true. The same they flew out of the USA when every other flight was grounded. lol
- d3lta, on 11/14/2007, -8/+51While most of text is inaccurate nonsense, something really does stick out to me. Anybody else notice how the article (written on Nov 1st 2001) mentions French Intelligence are keen to "restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere." Thats the only piece of news that really sticks out to me. If I remember right, the entire focus was on Afghanistan, Osama and the Taliban, and not Saddam Hussein, unless he tried to take advantage of the situation (which he didn't, did he?).
The fact that other international intelligence agencies were worried that the US wanted to attack Iraq that early strengthens the theory that the war in Iraq was a mandate for the Bush government even prior to September 11. - Vash265, on 11/14/2007, -4/+42"What does America put in the water that makes our people so damn gullible?"
Fluoride. - spyd3rweb, on 11/14/2007, -3/+41Yes he was, Bin Laden was a member of the MAK which received funding from Pakistani ISI and the CIA.
- batshitcrazy, on 11/15/2007, -20/+56Robert Bowman, Paul Craig Roberts, Ray McGovern, Andreas von Bulow, Project Northwoods
- qpn6ph9q, on 11/14/2007, -3/+36"The conspiracy theory is a lie" is a conspiracy theory
- bitcloud, on 11/14/2007, -3/+30thats a sweet BLOG you've provided there...
I have another blog which contradicts that blog... damn this is confusing! - d3lta, on 11/15/2007, -4/+31Anybody else notice how the article (written on Nov 1st 2001) mentions French Intelligence are keen to "restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere." Thats the only piece of news that really sticks out to me. If I remember right, the entire focus was on Afghanistan, Osama and the Taliban, and not Saddam Hussein, unless he tried to take advantage of the situation (which he didn't, did he?).
The fact that other international intelligence agencies were worried that the US wanted to attack Iraq that early strengthens the theory that the war in Iraq was a mandate for the Bush government even prior to September 11. - yohnstoppable, on 11/14/2007, -8/+35My urine stream?
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -6/+32Thermate?
- TruthforAll, on 11/14/2007, -9/+35link?
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/14/2007, -7/+33Wow, Bin Laden denies he is working with the CIA and making Al Qaeda into a bunch of chumps who --- instead of fighting for an Islamic state, are actually supporting the US and Saudi Arabia in their control over their people. Gee, yeah, what a silly thought -- why would he lie about punking people who would blow themselves up for their cause.
And of course, a CIA funded hospital, which is probably used to patch up covert ops, mercenaries and such -- they don't have any secrecy policies.
What does America put in the water that makes our people so damn gullible?
I'm going to start wearing a tin-foil-hat, and perhaps, by making it a fashion statement, get through to people -- nothing besides mall shopping seems to sink in. - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -6/+32The cake is a lie.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/15/2007, -8/+33I'm 42. Do you think I enjoy thinking about a Fascist takeover of this government?
If the government has nothing to hide -- why does it hide everything?
Why do people like yourself, in your wildest imaginations, think that all the internal spying is to keep you safe? They started it only a few months after Bush took office -- well before 9.11 and it did not keep you safe.
Read a bit about Hoover who went after the Communists while running the FBI. They collected all sorts of information on Actors, News Reporters, and Politicians and they blackmailed them, so that people would support their War on the Red Menace. People let McCarthy have his way, because people who went against McCarthy got ruined. Why do you think we made internal spying illegal in the first place? You can't do it and keep a Democracy, that's why. - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -10/+35snopes is not unbiased in this matter. See this metafilter thread:
http://www.metafilter.com/28100/Debunking-The-Debu ...
"Snopes is trying to change the record to something less embarrassing." - Burritoboy, on 11/14/2007, -2/+27Just read the article, there is a date at the top. November 1 2001. It's an old article not a rehashed one. Actually your condemnation of the Guardian is interesting. What do you suggest reading? Something form News international?
Considering that the only way to break several Iraq related stories in the US was via the New Yorker, a theater review magazine and therefore somewhat under the radar says to much about reach of the so called free press these days. Be glad the Guardian is still there, they may not be right all the time but at least they print critical copy.
Nice one.
BB - spyd3rweb, on 11/14/2007, -13/+37Paid debunkers just give up now.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/14/2007, -1/+25In WW I -- Germany did nothing to America. They were not the monster they became during WW II. Without the US involvement, England would have been theirs. I'm going to have to research that, since I think we've all taken too much boiler-plate history for granted.
There have only been two "sensible" wars the US has engaged in; the war for independence (against royalists), and WW II (against death-cult fascists). The rest, to quote General Smedley Butler; "War is a racket." - brainScan, on 11/14/2007, -5/+28I agree that people should analyze evidence... because "analise" is something that you do in porn movies.
- kd1s, on 11/14/2007, -5/+27Let us recall the Russian invasion of Afganistan. Who was one of the primary mujahadeen? Osama Bin Laden. And who supported said mujahadeen? The CIA.
- boxybrzown, on 11/14/2007, -0/+22Not my fault. My remote doesn't have an impeach button.
- DJetson, on 11/14/2007, -6/+27The alternative to denial being what? "***** yeah we helped that dude! He was all, 'I wanna blow ***** up, but my kidney hurts!'. So then I was all,'Damn Scro! We'll fix it!' and we did. Because the way I see it, we are a small hospital, we gotta make a name for ourselves somehow, we'll be sort of like Samual Mudd, because history looks so favorably on him."
- jmguitard, on 11/14/2007, -4/+25in your ass, of course :~)
- n8glenn, on 11/14/2007, -2/+23Because he said something stupid. Whether or not the "truthers" are right about 9/11, they are not ALL anything, they're people and they're all different, and most of them are "truthers" because they are quite rightly questioning and suspicious about everything they see, you people who insult them simply for disagreeing with you are the ones who don't think for yourselves, and honestly, calling people names does nothing to advance your argument, whether you are ultimately correct or not.
- kageki, on 11/14/2007, -2/+22Well if you are so keen about being conclusive consider that Osama actually denied any role in 9/11:
http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
or rather the extensive history of letting Osama off the hook and the Bin Ladens extensive ties to the Bush family where Bush 41 was also the director of the CIA:
http://emperors-clothes.com/news/probestop-i.htm
The US turned down the extradition offer of Osama by Sudan. - DucoNihilum, on 11/14/2007, -17/+37Golden tin....
PARADOX! - morph988, on 11/14/2007, -3/+22Mr Anderson, welcome back...........we've been expecting you......
- Supernova36, on 11/14/2007, -1/+19"the local CIA agent". Sounds quaint.
- scoobydoo84, on 11/14/2007, -4/+22Herkimer56,
This admin is nothing but inaccurate nonsense that was proved to be liars years ago but you still support them!! - Cyberen, on 11/14/2007, -11/+29the CIA has eyes all over the world. Why is this implausible?
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -1/+19The Guardian is a well respected newspaper that makes most sources in the US pale by comparison. It is not, by any means, the be-all and end-all of accuracy, it has an old reputation for sloppy editing for example, but comparing it to the National Enquirer is just hyperbole designed to impugn the source. The Guardian has more respect as a newspaper than most of the rags published in the US combined.
- kaelyiesta, on 11/14/2007, -0/+17Your comment is one of the most insightful here. So many other comments insist that they know the truth by linking to sites which do nothing to prove a god damn thing, then expect people to nod and go about their lives, convinced. Of course the hospital would deny treating Bin Laden. That gets you nowhere. Of course Bin Laden would lie if he were still collaborating with the CIA. So, that also gets you nowhere. The only evidence we have is looking at the motives of the players, their past behavior and the sparse amount of information that is definitive.
All I do know that I don't trust much of our government, and if any of this were proven true, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. - bitcloud, on 11/14/2007, -0/+16It's implausible that it's not the case...
The CIA has a long history of funding terror groups for political gain... maybe this time it backfired on them... then again, maybe it didn't. - exoendo, on 11/14/2007, -4/+20except declare war on us.
- KennMac, on 11/14/2007, -0/+16They're* clearly smarter than you.
- twomeyw23334, on 11/14/2007, -16/+32If Bush is such an evil James Bond style mastermind, why didn't he plant WMDs in Iraq before the last election to gain more public support. If he came up with such an elaborate and intelligent plan with Osama, you know... "you can blow up our towers and kill some Americans so I can come after you and you can spend the last years of your life in hiding" why not come up with the seemingly easy plan of planting WMDs?
Plus, where are the ninjas in all of this? Every consipiracy needs to have ninjas involved somewhere. - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -1/+16Thermates byproduct is iron. There is a video that shows molten metal poring from the towers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_jiCyMkrRM
Aluminum doesnt glow hot orange red when it gets hot. Oh we could make iron hats for us truthers. - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -5/+20Sorry, I'm not a troofer, but that story as to how WTC7 fell just doesn't cut it. No building of that structure has *ever* fallen in the manner of WTC7 under those circumstances, even after days of fire. And WTC7 fell into its own footprint identically to the twin towers. The damage it received was not enough to cause an identical collapse to the towers. The official 9/11 report does not address this. Why?
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