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- vhammon, on 10/18/2007, -3/+68I checked this site, it says, "Actual totals for Iraqi deaths are higher than the numbers recorded on this site." The military also admits that it has changed some of its criteria for counting (for example, it matters whether you are shot from the front or back whether you are counted in their totals).
Lara Logan is an extremely courageous journalist who has put her life on the line to do her best getting accurate information to the American public–in a war in which journalists have experienced extremely high casualties.
When you use words like "complete *****" and "lying douche bag" you are revealing more about your level of cognitive and emotional development than about the topic. - ruyen, on 10/18/2007, -15/+48Are you over there? She is, and you're the douchebag who needs to stfu.
Regardless there's no political progress being made, their gvmt says there won't be, their PM said we could leave whenever, and most Iraqi's said they want us gone, so even if our deaths were down to zero, there's no reason to be there. Why are our forces still there (except oil ofc)? - vhammon, on 10/18/2007, -4/+35Here's another look..."The real Iraq we knew"-Twelve Former Army Captains, writing for The Washington Post, say: "Today marks five years since the authorization of military force in Iraq, setting Operation Iraqi Freedom in motion." Five years on, "Iraq is in shambles."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - TheLastProphet, on 10/26/2007, -5/+33Wow, unbelievable work. I googled Lara Logan, awesome stuff.
- nblsavage, on 10/18/2007, -4/+29reported both vv0vv and II0II for having multiple accounts.
- nblsavage, on 10/18/2007, -1/+22and if I can be superficial for a moment...she's quite the beauty.
- tucsonsun13, on 10/18/2007, -5/+25Everyone knows things are going bad over there. Everyone.
- TexMurphy, on 10/18/2007, -7/+26Army Captains are right in there essay. The Iraq war has failed and is a nightmare with no end in sight. Only right wing nuts think we should stay. Our U.S. Terror Chief says Iraq war makes us less safe. Then our incompetant president Bush makes him resign.
Way to ***** up Iraq Republicans. - inactive, on 10/18/2007, -8/+25The fact remains that the USA is illegally occupying Iraq and needs to withdraw it's army before any progress can be made. Withdraw instantly and indict the war criminals that ordered the troops to invade. Then Iraq may start to normalize.
By the way, millions of us knew that invading Iraq was wrong, illegal, immoral and doomed before the invasion took place. We were on the streets of every major city a month before the illegal invasion. We were right. It's time to end this crime. - tehpwnrate, on 10/18/2007, -1/+13Why don't you argue against his figures instead of stooping to his level, and then not even backing up what you say?
- unclefire, on 10/18/2007, -1/+12I just love how when anybody says the war is not going well, they're automatically an anti-war, liberal, cut-and-run, loser, [insert your own negative label here]. Could it possibly be that what they saw was a mess?
By **most** objective measures, we have not made **much** progress there. Sure some violence is down, but for how long has that been and where? Most people don't have electricity or running water. Oil production is in the toilet. Unemployment is huge there (what like 30%?). We are arming militias to fight Al Qaeda, people are not safe in the streets, there's no political solutions- the Iraqi gov. is inept and dysfunctional. The police and army are ineffectual and dominated by the militias and sectarian groups. Soldiers quit all the time. Corruption is everywhere and they're sucking up all our tax dollars sent over there.
Are the war supporters so blind that they can't see things have not gone well in Iraq? And things are not getting that much better- there's no end in sight here folks. Almost weekly we hear of military folks coming back from the war saying that things are screwed up and we should pull out. And no, not from the "phony soliders", real soldeirs who have been there and believe in the mission. And not just grunts- it's officers and generals in some cases.
I had myself held the opinion that we couldn't pull out too quickly. I think we've hit a steady state of crap and more crap. - DiscoLando, on 10/18/2007, -0/+10Why stop at Republicans? The entire government is to blame for this. Don't think that Democrats are less deserving of your wrath.
- RearNakedChoke, on 10/18/2007, -1/+10I googled Lara Logan too....for, uh, her...work.
- nblsavage, on 10/18/2007, -0/+9yeah..the idea of the government suppressing the media is ludicrous...just like the government getting almost all the telecoms to co-operate with them to eavesdrop on U.S. citizens. The media is owned by huge companies who like having the government owe them favors.
- Godlike, on 10/18/2007, -2/+10Those numbers are taken from the same sources that are fudging them to begin with...
- Whackly, on 10/18/2007, -6/+14vv0vv, you're a lying douche bag... and i'm glad to show that i'm developed enough to say so.
- nblsavage, on 10/18/2007, -3/+11I hate to be a naysayer but we only have your word for that.
I can claim to be Dick Cheney's nephew and say that he likes to wear dresses. (altho that may be true...I can't prove it) - Scruffydan, on 10/18/2007, -0/+8here are more lying douchebags:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/washington/12cnd ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - inactive, on 10/18/2007, -2/+10Excellent job of completely missing the point.
- jazzybest, on 10/18/2007, -4/+12How can you even debate this ? Where are WOMD? was't that the reason for entering illegally in iraq? This is an illegal occupation.
Look at the overall stats. Documented civilian deaths of CIVILIANS- 75,000-80,000.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Who the hell cares about the last two months. Oh while I am writting another dead.
today:
Tuesday 16 October: 37 dead
Baghdad: car bomb kills 5, Al-Naser square; roadside bomb kills 1, Arasat; gunmen fire at police checkpoint, kill 3 policemen, Maysaloon square; gunmen open fire at group of cleaners, kill 1; 4 bodies.
Mosul: suicide bomber blows up truck at police station, kills 7; policeman is shot dead; 2 bodies thrown out of a car.
Falluja: gunmen shoot dead member of 'Awakening Council', his son and his nephew.
Baquba: roadside bomb kills father and 2 sons; 2 bodies.
Kirkuk: 2 bodies.
Abbasi: body found, beheaded and loaded with explosives.
and today on CNN - SPECIAL
Britney Spears sex video search by head reporters. - stepnw1f, on 10/19/2007, -3/+11CBS's Logan has, how about you?
- inactive, on 10/18/2007, -2/+9respect to you ms logan
- maanwi, on 10/18/2007, -1/+8War on terror is ludicrous, on its face; you can't wage war against an abstraction.There will be no "winning", only a fiasco left for the next administration to clean up.
- nblsavage, on 10/18/2007, -2/+9those who say the opposite have their own agenda to support. She's a reporter doing what reporters are supposed to do.
- Neiliosullivan, on 10/18/2007, -1/+8Can I swear on here?
- ZenMojo, on 10/18/2007, -0/+7Do you even watch any channel besides Fox? Iraq has been in the news constantly! First there's the bombings, the civilian killings, Turkey shelling Kurdistan, which was previously peaceful.
- Brand909, on 10/18/2007, -0/+6I was a soldier at the beginning of the war... since served my contract, discharged and am against the occupation. When you put it in the sense of an "Illegal" war, and most Americans at the time were for the invasion. How would you put it to soldiers like me? that were all criminals?
I am earnestly asking a question that concerns me and some of my close friends still in the military. I'm not trying to sway your thought on the subject or anything. I'm just trying to get people to think about the statements they make and clarify them a little more. I have looked up the charter you stated and see that it is not just someone blowing steam.
Digg me up or down I don't care. I'm just trying to get an outside thought on these types of statements. But can u say the war is illegal or the command of war was illegal? The war was carried out by troops like me and countless others just doing what we were trained to do and what we ignorantly thought was the will of American citizens. Then again it was commanded by civilian officials that we can clearly see now do not take any heed from the populous of our country.
As I stated I am not trying to sway your thinking or shut you up, but people calling the war Illegal, and just leaving it at that just gives me a sinking feeling about what I've been apart of. - wahrheitigkeit, on 10/18/2007, -1/+7US fails at minimum two things: war and journalism. We need more honest journalists like Lara Logan!
- paulbyrnes, on 10/18/2007, -6/+12I'd hit it
- inactive, on 10/18/2007, -4/+10Bring our troops home and send Bush to Iraq with some sparklers.
- ZenMojo, on 10/18/2007, -2/+8Our mistakes? Your mistakes. I was against the war from the start.
- ccagney, on 10/20/2007, -7/+13Ron Paul is the candidate who would bring the troops home ASAP. Obama ain't got ***** on that.
- sutro33, on 10/18/2007, -2/+8While working on diplomacy is a good idea, the idea that thousands of years animosity is going to be solved by getting all sides to sit down at a table is absurd.
In other news, I accidentally marked your comment as being offensive. My bad. - GeneralFault, on 10/18/2007, -1/+7No, they are twice as deserving these days. I say that because the dems promised to stop this crap. At least you know where you stand with the warloving republicans. The dems are doing nothing but bringing disillusion to their constituents.
- AdamGeld, on 10/18/2007, -1/+7Then spread your knowledge, vv0vv. Why keep these "FACTS" from us?
- d686, on 10/18/2007, -0/+6she has been on the money about iraq since she started... one of the few actual hard nosed REAL reporters out there also happens to be a hottie, yet still most people are ignorant as hell about *****... ahwell.
- Timetheos, on 10/18/2007, -2/+8It's obvious you have no idea what a neoliberal is.
- marspidey, on 10/18/2007, -1/+7First, pulling out would mean we are no longer nation building something we should never do through force. Second, people are dying because we are there. Read the 9/11 commission, being in the Middle East is one of the reasons we were attacked. We have overstayed our unwelcome visit.
Also how does staying help them? The problems have gotten worse not better since our invasion. It is more compassionate to leave now than to stay and continue this bloodshed. - nblsavage, on 10/18/2007, -3/+8have you?
- AdamGeld, on 10/18/2007, -3/+8Then educate all of us. Can you do that? I didn't think so.
- marspidey, on 10/18/2007, -2/+7How can anyone say they have a valid point when they haven't been in Iraq at all, let alone been there recently? Also just because you heard it from an "officer of some sort" doesn't really show much, they could've been sent to low volatile locations or they could be afraid to speak up. Just about everyone knows that all is not well in Iraq and there is definitely a reason why an overwhelming number of Iraqis want us out now.
- nblsavage, on 10/18/2007, -6/+11Hm...digg must be broken. All I see is WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
- inactive, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5where can we find these supressed pictures?
- hierophantus, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5I said it below and I'll say it here:
Where do you get 74%? There were 84 US fatalities in August, 65 in September, and 23 in October. I don't know if your calendar is like mine, but mine shows that October is only half over. Accepting the assumption that the numbers are no more than two days old, that projects to 46 deaths for October. That's a 45% dip in two months.
By comparison (and from the same site's numbers), in November 2004, there were 137 US fatalities and in December 2004 there were 72--a 47% drop in only one month! Did the surge do that too? - madm0nk, on 10/18/2007, -2/+7Well I've talked to several people who've actually fought in Iraq, many of which were officers of some sort; and since nobody in my family has military background, except me (I was also in Iraq), I think I have validity in echoing the complete opposite of your post said right from this source ..... me. The war in Iraq is *****, there were no terrorists in Iraq until we got there. The 'terrorists'; made of of wacky islamic fundamentalists hated Saddam. Bin Laden (remember that guy), declared war on the U.S. when we staged our troops in Saudi to invade Iraq the first time because he wanted to fight against Saddam with his newly trained (by the CIA) and seasoned little army. Whoever you talked to was obviously a bunch of brainwashed idiots which the military has plenty of. Have fun living a lie.
- nblsavage, on 10/18/2007, -3/+8ah yes..more insight from l0s3r
- stepnw1f, on 10/18/2007, -4/+8Of course it is, and it's gonna get worse.... Mr. Douchebag and his sociopathic party sycophants are gonna keep spouting the opposite about this war, because they want to dump this mess on the Democratic Party. Of course the GOP is doing this with the aid of the DLC (Democratic Leadership) and other cowardly corporate whores compromising principles I hold much higher than any party loyalty. Party loyalty means ***** when your country is being raped by the wealthy. It's as if the Democrats don't mind watching their country get gang-banged repeatably. Impeach the ***** and send them to the ***** Hague for war crimes. Want to heal tensions in the Mideast? Through Bush and Cheney to the wolves, bring in surrounding countries to the table and NEGOTIATE like ***** adults! Then we should round up the right wing and send them to Gitmo for a long vacation.
- ZenMojo, on 10/18/2007, -4/+8To quote McCain, "The surge is working, and that's a fact."
***** Cons... - sockpuppets, on 10/18/2007, -2/+6Giggity.
- hierophantus, on 10/18/2007, -0/+4Where do you get 74%? There were 84 US fatalities in August, 65 in September, and 23 in October. I don't know if your calendar is like mine, but mine shows that October is only half over. Accepting the assumption that the numbers are no more than two days old, that projects to 46 deaths for October. That's a 45% dip in two months.
By comparison (and from the same site's numbers), in November 2004, there were 137 US fatalities and in December 2004 there were 72--a 47% drop in only one month! Did the surge do that too? -
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