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- psuchad, on 10/20/2007, -2/+229This is a year old. He talks about if Dems take over congress in November. They already did. Almost a year ago.
- SeethisPass, on 10/10/2007, -10/+127Besides the threat of another anthrax attack, I wonder what power bush has gotten for himself to be able to over-rule the world and get clean away with it.
There must be something to this skull and bones devil and death worship crap. or maybe it's the other death and devil worshiping his crowd does at Bohemian Grove.
I'm stymied at how even that would work this well . - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+107Digg is like a time machine. It's awesome!
- u2u2u2, on 10/10/2007, -8/+104Good God ! How much longer before a Revolution?
- InetRoadkill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+78The bill did pass and I'm amazed that it took a year before anyone noticed it. This was all over the news last year that he was pushing for immunity. People really do need to pay more attention to their own government's shenanigans. If they announced the bill on american idol, I guess more people would have known about it.
I'm still hoping the democrats attach a rider to the next Iraq funding bill that revokes the immunity. I want to see Dumbya squirm for an excuse to veto it. - ruyen, on 10/10/2007, -1/+40Indeed. So I'm assuming the bill passed before then.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+42The Bush staff are frantically scared. They committed several acts of treason against the citizens of the United States, and their protective days are numbered. Bush grants himself and staff immunity, and passes fascist laws, but they forget one thing--that Americans have resolve--resolve to fight any threat--from outside or within. The courts will not uphold fascism and we the people will stand and fight for our liberties.
- SocialPoison, on 10/10/2007, -2/+38Because there's a massive number of people who find those to be admiral qualities? I blame Nascar fans.
- Bdog2g2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+30because America's a 3 year old with ADD....
meaning: We forget everything, b/c a new season of Lost, American Idol, etc is coming. - sirjimbob, on 10/10/2007, -4/+33So Bush has had his "get out of jail free" card for a year now. Great. :weep:
- ToadLeg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28This is an admission of guilt! There is no need for "immunity" if no crime has been committed!
- eggo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28If only that were true....
- Fixthemedia, on 10/10/2007, -7/+33I need a Bush punching bag.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -7/+33join Ron Paul revolution to restore our liberties(Constitution)
IMPEACH(arrest Cheney first) - Shigglyboo, on 10/10/2007, -25/+51dude..... this is a video.... there's a section for videos.....
- jpongin, on 10/10/2007, -7/+31Bush is an idiot. He can't speak well, and he can't lead well. How on earth did he become our president?
- drmangrum, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25I would take this as an admission of guilt, ambitious federal attorneys should be all over this like stink on *****.
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2007, -0/+24The real story behind this (old) news is that CIA interrogators actually went on "strike" and refused to carry out interrogations until they were granted retroactive immunity for what they had been doing up to then, via this legislation.
- sloppychris, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24Definitely from a year ago.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/28/cafferty- ... - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23"As my last official act as your President, I hereby pardon myself for any and all crimes I am accused of committing while I was your President. God bless America. Amen."
- notque, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Noam Chomsky on War Crimes
In 2002, White House counsel Alberto Gonzales passed on to Bush a memorandum on torture by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC). As noted by constitutional scholar Sanford Levinson: "According to the OLC, ‘acts must be of an extreme nature to rise to the level of torture… Physical pain amounting to torture must be equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death.'" Levinson goes on to say that in the view of Jay Bybee, then head of the OLC, "The infliction of anything less intense than such extreme pain would not, technically speaking, be torture at all. It would merely be inhuman and degrading treatment, a subject of little apparent concern to the Bush administration's lawyers."
Gonzales further advised President Bush to effectively rescind the Geneva Conventions, which, despite being "the supreme law of the land" and the foundation of contemporary international law, contained provisions Gonzales determined to be "quaint" and "obsolete." Rescinding the conventions, he informed Bush, "substantially reduces the threat of domestic criminal prosecution under the War Crimes Act." Passed in 1996, the act carries severe penalties for "grave breaches" of the conventions: the death penalty, "if death results to the victim" of the breach. Gonzales was later appointed to be attorney general and would probably have been a Supreme Court nominee if Bush's constituency did not regard him as "too liberal." - DeadWords, on 10/19/2007, -1/+22Sorry, but when you say that Americans have resolve -- "resolve to fight any threat from outside or within" -- I have to call *****. If such resolve truly existed, things would not be as they are now. There would be no occupation of Iraq. There would be no Bush administration for two stolen terms. The American people are as no better than any other people on the planet, but perhaps much worse.
I had thought that Americans have so many guns for just such a reason ... to protect themselves from their own government? It isn't working.
If Bush and his administration are seeking to protect themselves against prosecution for war crimes, it is because THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED WAR CRIMES. They are criminals, all of them. They are exactly why you all have so many guns, aren't they? Why are you people not taking back your government? It is a government of the people, for the people, by the people..? If that is so, then you are ALL war criminals, for with your silence and lack of action, you have given the government permission to continue their crimes. - T4z3R, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23Would you, could you, expect any less?
- Frnnkdlxx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20At least that's the hope....
- terrordome, on 10/10/2007, -3/+22I'm 99.9% sure you don't even know what Socialism is or what it stands for. Either that, or you're part of the bourgeoisie.
- Thevilone, on 10/10/2007, -4/+23You know he isn't smart enough to do it himself some one has to be helping him.
- kingrooster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18"Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary." -Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)
- chyya, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19lmao. us americans got owned
- forgiste, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16February 31, 2013, around 13:00 AM
- thescimitar, on 10/10/2007, -6/+20Even if a pardon was warranted (isn't that sort of like pleading the fifth?), how in the world is it reasonable to pardon yourself? I guess the spirit of the Magna Carta has outlived its usefulness.
- appetite, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Little did he know that the Dems would be giant vaginas, rendering the 'immunity' irrelevant.
- Kratos76, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18It is a video, but I would say it's better suited for the political category, dude.
- zulfy26, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18That is NOT cool.
- bshock, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I try to look at it as a tacit admission that Dubya and Dick and all the gang are indeed war criminals.
- asspants, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14if he had to pardon himself, that means he knows he did something wrong.
how do we stop this? - 2reflective, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Indeed. A lot of heads are going to roll. Actions like these just go to show how worried the administration are.
- frazw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Obligatory "Obligatory" comment
- terrordome, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Here is the simplest definition of socialism, just in case;
"Mastery over production by the producers is the essence of socialism"
-- Noam Chomsky (The Soviet Union Versus Socialism)
Sounds like pure evil, doesn't it? - Albionshores, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12repent?
- Pilot85, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11It did.
- neko, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13And for my third wish, I'd like another three wishes.
- gwolf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11How do you get a pardon before you have been charged with the crime. When Bush is out of the way we will see what his immunity is worth.
Maybe they can hide out in Argentina. - relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -5/+15I hope George Bush burns in hell when he dies.
- joshua5, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Yes the video is old and yes the bill passed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_ ...
The other relevant provision of the MCA retroactively afforded a defense to government employees accused of committing war crimes. In 2005, a provision of the Detainee Treatment Act (section 1004(a)) had created a new defense. Accusations of misconduct in the "detention and interrogation of aliens" would not subject a defendant to criminal liability under certain conditions, one of which was that the President had authorized the acts. This defense was available in criminal prosecutions for conduct that occurred after the effective date of the Detainee Treatment Act (December 30, 2005). Section 8(b) of the Military Commissions Act extended this defense to prosecutions for conduct that occurred during the period September 11, 2001 to December 30, 2005. This provision has been criticized by the Center for Constitutional Rights: "The MCA retroactively immunizes some U.S. officials who have engaged in illegal actions which have been authorized by the Executive." - oink2u, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9yes, it has happened. It took me FOREVER to find the actual text (listed below). It's hidden away on page 82 of S.3930 of the 109th Congress. Passed the Senate September 28, 2006.
SEC. 5. TREATY OBLIGATIONS NOT ESTABLISHING
GROUNDS FOR CERTAIN CLAIMS.
(a) IN GENERAL.—No person may invoke the Geneva
Conventions or any protocols thereto in any habeas corpus
or other civil action or proceeding to which the United
States, or a current or former officer, employee, member
of the Armed Forces, or other agent of the United States
is a party as a source of rights in any court of the United
States or its States or territories.
and then later on...
(b) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendment made by
subsection (a) shall take effect on the date of the enact-
ment of this Act, and shall apply to all cases, without ex-
ception, pending on or after the date of the enactment of
this Act which relate to any aspect of the detention, trans-
fer, treatment, trial, or conditions of detention of an alien
detained by the United States since September 11, 2001. - Shatzi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11I agree!
- empirefalling, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12Over the past months, the US Government watched press has been giving some attention to the most glaring of war crimes committed by the U.S. military in Iraq.
The ones that have been uncovered are awful enough. First, there was the torture and killing of prisoners at Abu Ghraib. Then, in November 2005, U.S. marines massacred 24 civilians—mostly women and children—in Haditha.
Now the world knows in disgust about the terrible March 2006 rape and murder of Abeer Qassim al-Janabi, a 14-year-old Iraqi girl. U.S. soldiers murdered her and then killed her mother, father and five-year-old sister. These atrocities have provoked an outcry and disgust across the World Body. They have contributed to the growing disgust felt by a majority of U.S. working people for the war and its consequences.
These incidents are always reported by the big business press as “isolated incidents.” The public was assured that guilty soldiers will be punished.
A look at history points to a completely different reality. Massacres, killings, torture and humiliation at the hands of the occupying US imperialist army is the norm. Perpetrators of the most heinous crimes almost always walk free.
Few of these reported war crimes saw the light of day during the Vietnam War. Like today in Iraq, the ones that did were considered aberrations.
In Iraq today, as in Vietnam, the imperialists have a military rationale for killing civilians. Far from an aberration, it is a tactic that flows from a strategic logic. The “enemy” that the Pentagon is facing is not a regular army. It is a popular Freedom Insurgency with deep roots and support from the people not only in Iraq and Afghanistan but throughout the World Body
For the Pentagon generals, if the civilian population is sympathetic to the resistance fighters, it is necessary to terrorize the civilians as punishment for providing aid or shelter to a guerrilla army. The U.S. military imbues soldiers with racism against the occupied civilian population to facilitate this goal.
The recent reports on US war crimes in Iraqi coupled with the disclosure of more US atrocities against Iraqi and Afghanistan civilians in the recent past are opportunities for anti-imperialist forces to reflect on history and bring the realities of U.S. occupation to broader layers of the World Working class. Let us use these opportunities to build real solidarity with the Iraqi people, who—like the Vietnamese before them—are fighting heroically to rid their country of US imperialist occupation and domination. Will you allow next Iran to suffer the fate of Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam and Korea? With the decline of US military, economic and social order…the danger is very, very real. Mortally Wounded Beasts of prey can still kill.
Let us not wait for the reports and investigations 40 years from now to expose the criminal nature of this U.S. imperialist war and occupation. Help bring the US to justice for it’s murder of over 1,200,000 innocent men women and children. - oderdigg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I'm sure Bush is more of a douche than Al Gore. Just guessing of course...
- Pilot85, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10The MCA Passed a year ago. Bush got his immunity. It won't help him if the next president is at all an upright citizen. If it is someone looking to expand on the breaches in our system of checks and balances we allowed Bush and Co. to create, and push this country ever closer to a closed, fascist society, then God help us.
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