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- whiskeymb, on 10/12/2007, -12/+79well, I'm sure when Bush said "I saw the first plane crash on TV" he probably referred to the coverage of the plane crash. So I'm a little hesitant to support him on that point.
however, nobody can deny that there was a lot of inaction on the part of the president, especially after he heard a second plane hit the WTCs. Any reasonable person would be running and screaming for answers, instead of sitting there listening to children read a book.
So I guess it really depends on where you stand about this government. Are they smart enough to mastermind this entire plan with a fairly good cover, or were they just too incompetent to see it coming and to do anything about it.
neither answer makes me feel very good. - whiskeymb, on 10/12/2007, -9/+59@DaveV
Well let's see... if I was president, then as soon as they told me the second plane hit I'd realize "ok, this isn't just a bad pilot" and I would excuse myself from reading with little kiddies and go take care of the country. I wouldn't just sit there for another 10 minutes...
But I'm not Bush.... - dustedbunny, on 10/12/2007, -14/+49Acting very strangely as...opposed to any other day of the week?
- pixelguru, on 10/12/2007, -13/+46You don't know how much I hope you are right, and that my government had no involvement in 9/11, but looking at the facts with an open mind certainly does cast a lot of doubt, and this same government has resisted investigation tooth and nail at every turn. Why?
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36http://www.duggmirror.com
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6645678004850801305&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en - PYREX, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34conspiracy or not, one thing the vid does prove is he lies about how he heard about the attacks.
are people really supposed to believe that 2 hours after the FAA knew about multi-hijacks the president didnt know & that he only found out when CNN was running footage of the 1st plane hitting?
honestly. im not saying it's a conspiracy, but it's obviously some BS in there for some reason or another.
personally, i dont think they orchestrated the attacks; i do think they lie a lot about the time lines and capability chain though. - dazinith, on 10/12/2007, -10/+38no, i expect the secret service to evacuate him - did you even watch the clip?
the secret service was aware of multiple hijackings BEFORE bush was taken to the school. the 1st hit happened BEFORE bush was taken to the school.
so you know you have multiple hijackings, you know a plane hit tower 1, then a plane hits tower 2, you think 'hey we are under a serious attack, what should we do?' - oh just leave the president in a publicly disclosed location where he was already scheduled to do a press conference that day.
how was he not at risk? why was cheney 'picked up and whisked away' immediately and bush not? and why didn't the 9/11 commission bother asking? and why the hell would bush go to a school room when the SS knew of multiple hijackings at least 20 minutes before he arrived at the school, much less not evacuate him from what should have been a perceived threat.
watch the damn video. - authenticpoppy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+35@whiskeymb - *So I guess it really depends on where you stand about this government. Are they smart enough to mastermind this entire plan with a fairly good cover, or were they just too incompetent to see it coming and to do anything about it.*
Or a combo - Too incompetent to see it coming despite all of the evidence in front of them, but smart enough to use the entire thing as a cover for all of the other things they had planned - Which kinda makes ya sick. - VicHislop, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29True.
Although it is strange that with the limited information being whispered into his ear, for all Mr. Bush knew, New York could have been the subject of any variety of conventional or unconventional weapons or even the starting point of a national attack. All of that is speculative of course, but why did Bush sit there dumbfounded when he could have easily excused himself immediately?
He is the commander-in-chief, so who was making those decisions concerning national security why he continued to read the story to the children? Looking back, it just seems to be another instance of Bush proving he isn't made of the sterner stuff necessary to lead and further evidence that he is merely the talking head who is President in name only. - tcpik, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Whatever happened to finding Bin Laden? Did we forget about him?
Oh yeah that's right Bush has oil ties with the Bin Laden's. They are his friends.
I guess we really can't kill him since he owns a percentage of our country... - iiftmlis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22DaveV still can't think of any action that would be more appropriate than listing to a room full of school children reading a book upon hearing "America is under attack".
Can't think of one?
Let me guess - you're a Bush supporter. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+32@atdigg - Last time I checked Bush was still a politician...so it would still be political news riiiiiight?!?
- dazinith, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19noone who has ever questioned 9/11 has suggested bush was a mastermind.
he was left out of the loop while cheney was running the 6+ ongoing wargames that morning.. you know, the wargames that the 9/11 commission didn't investigate either? - shazam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19@DaveV
The appropriate answer (to "What should the President do after being informed of the 9.11 attacks") is ASK LOTS OF QUESTIONS.
You get the hell out of there, you ask your agents to call up everyone on the phone and you get on TOP of that *****. You don't sit around. And the fact that Andy Card left immediately without so much as checking to see if Bush might stand up, or ask a question, or display any kind of reactive curiosity, let alone switch into a proactive problem-solving mode, is super suspect.
If you've just found out that an attack has begun on American soil, you do ANYTHING except SIT THERE. Unless, of course, you didn't "just find out".
(DaveV, you're like the kid in the back of the class who incessantly asks "Why?" not out of curiosity, but because you know it annoys the room. Quit already with the retard rhetoric.) - iiftmlis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20I think every American that could jumped up and ran to find out more information when they heard of the second plane strike. Everyone I know did that, even though there was not a damn thing we could do about it.
The one person who could do something about it, our excuse for a president, didn't seem to think it had anything to do with him. - dmjarrington, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19This perception is leading to the undoing of our country. Everytime I hear comments like this a part of me dies inside.
- dmjarrington, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Yeah... I wonder if they were referring to the 1/4 that still think the official story isn't *****.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/poll_only_16_percent_believe_gov_on_911.htm - dazinith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16that was the 2nd plane that hit, not the first, that he was being notified of. furthermore the secret service was made aware of MULTIPLE hijackings more than 20 minutes before he arrived, and finally its not his job to do what he feels is correct, it is the secret service's job to protect the president in times of emergency. if upwards of 10 hijackings were being reported and 2 had crashed into the WTC, then wouldn't that be an emergency worthy of evacuating the sitting president from a publicly disclosed location? whose to say that he wasn't a target that morning?
- dustedbunny, on 10/12/2007, -14/+29Honestly though. I'd act strange too if I was the president of the united states who's reading a children's book to 3rd graders get a whisper in my ear saying.. "America is under attack."
Not only would I act strange, I'd probably ***** my pants.
That's probably why I'd make a bad president. hmm... - dazinith, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16DaveV,
Not showing me 'reply' under your comment, so here is your response to 'Prove this statement.':
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday
At approximately 8:48 a.m. on the morning of September 11, 2001, the first pictures of the burning World Trade Center were broadcast on live television. The news anchors, reporters, and viewers had little idea what had happened in lower Manhattan, but there were some people who did know. By that time, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon, the White House, the Secret Service, and Canada’s Strategic Command all knew that three commercial airplanes had been hijacked.
all of the information on coopeativeresearch.org is fully sourced, and it is a priceless research tool for 9/11, i hope you'll read some of it. - Gold9472, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Here are a few articles I wrote about this very topic...
Why Didn't The Secret Service Protect The President On 9/11?
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10017
Why Didn't The President Receive "Air Cover" On 9/11?
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12926
Here is something I recommend EVERYONE read. Written by Paul Thompson, and Allan Wood...
An Interesting Day: President Bush's Movements and Actions on 9/11
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday - BruceDeuce, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18 If the attacks were a surprise, why didn't the secret service assume the possibility that Osama could have hired 20 more Arabs to attack the Presidents previously announced visit to the school? Incompetence? Foreknowledge? Nobody on Digg knows. If we did want to find out there would have to be another investigation.
Assuming that the attacks were a suprise why hasn't anyone been demoted or held accountable for the mistakes made on that morning. Even if you don't believe the conspiracy theories, don't you think someone should be held accountable for inaction or incompetence? Even a low level scapegoat at NORAD or the FAA?
People who don't believe the conspiracy theory should also call for a new investigation, yet I never see any of them doing that. If we could have some questions answered, and it turns out the government story is correct, then the truth-movement will have egg on there face and you could call them kooks, idiots, retards, crazies etc till the end of time. Answering the unanswered is in everyones best interest.
Personally attacking people who ask these questions doesn't bring anything to the debate. When someone posts a comment addressing a legitimate point, when you respond with "your are a ***** douche" only makes you look stupid.
The burden of proof isn't on the truth movement it is on the government. If only one thing turns out to be a lie then there was a cover-up. So what if the buildings fell by themselves, does it change the motive? Whats the difference if the Pentagon was hit with a plane or a magical fairy missile, the question remains "who benefited"? - dggeek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16@DaveV
Uh, excuse yourself without giving an explanation. You're the f'ing president!
Besides, people will know when they find out WE WERE UNDER ATTACK that you weren't just brushing them off. - Signalis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18@Snoopy
I would think an attack on New York is a LOT more serious than a blowjob. How many lives were at stake on the Lewinski deal? - dmjarrington, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21it's time to grow up and realize that you have been brainwashed.
- carlosglz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14• It took over 40 years for people to figure out that Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen.
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html
• It took over 35 years for people to realize and figure out that the JFK assasination was a conspiracy and the official story was a lie.
http://www.stayfreemagazine.org/4/jfk.htm
• It took over 30 years for people to figure out that our reason to enter into the Vietnam war was a planned and a blatant lie.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261
• With the power, reach and free nature of the internet, the 9/11 lie is blowing up in their face within 5 years of the event.
You can poke fun at people that don't always believe what they are told to believe, not everyone is a good sheep, but if recent history is any indicator, the government is more than willing to lie to the masses to be able to get and do what they want.
Like eShinn said in the post above, it is all about what kind of person you are, red pill or blue pill. For some people ignorance is bliss, for others only the truth is acceptable. - archlich, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I think a matter of national security would supersede being rude in front of children.
- jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Compassionate Conservative, Negotiator, Axis of Evil, War on Terror, Stay the Course
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Here's a link to just the video, and not the blog. It is still up:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6645678004850801305&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en - jobu00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@wbtittle
You are so disingenuous as to laugh. Just try to tell us that if Clinton was president at the time and did everything that the Bush administration did during the minutes and years after 9/11 that you wouldn't be flinging ape ***** everywhere? If this wan't Bush, there WOULD have been an impeachment.
People like you who cover up for Bush, who can accept his lies and his deceit, who support his tearing down of hundreds of year-old freedoms, who cheer his failed wars of agression, will go down in history as collaborators of evil.
Why people this this administration is not evil? Marketing. Fox News. Paid Pundants. Lack of education. Simple minds. No analytical skills. - digimat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13This just proves that this guys just like Reagan... he can't act.
Its obvious that he lied in front of everyone about seeing the plane on the TV before meeting the schoool children. And if hes not lieing then what kind of president walks into a classroom after he sees a plane fly into a building? Even if the guy is a stupid as he sounds there are people working for him that would take the neccessary precautions if something like this should happen.
All you blind idiots who follow this gov't need to ask yourself a question... after all these facts in front of your little noses do you really like believing lies or is it hard to sleep at night knowing that you voted for murderers? - digimat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15"That video insults my intelligence."
you give yourself too much credit. - jobu00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12"Engineering realities"? More like "Engineering Firsts". The three towers that fell that day are the first ones in history to do so for the reasons given. Sure planes hitting towers hasnt happened much, but remember that T7 fell due to a tiny fire inside and there have been plenty of fires in history and no collapses.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12wbtit:
>President Bush did exactly the thing he should have as the head of the country. NOTHING. He finished the story and left the room to find out what was going on.
Actually he hung around for another half an hour, did a meet and greet with the teachers and the administrator of the school. It's on tape.
Oh yes, and the exact quote was "Sir, America is under attack." - jobu00, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17@ohqr
Nice to see that you love your government so much. There is no way there could do something so awful, right?
Run a google on "Pentagon Files" which was a US government sanctioned plot to kill americans to prestage a war with cuba. Or look up Kissinger's involvement on the other 9/11 where the US assasinated a Chilaen president. Or or or... there are lots of history here.
Does your brain actually hear the white house explainations and think 'yep, sounds good to me'? Where, anywhere, in that video did it sound less than reasonable?
Of course, to accept that 911 was inside job means your little glass world of "USA the beautiful" will have to come crashing down. It seems that the vast majority of americans are not courageous or quite frankly, not motivated enough, to make that call. Better to just listen to Bush and "go shopping". - DeadWisdom, on 10/12/2007, -10/+21@jonnydobad
Jonny, keep thinking. That's the only way you're going to get over your stupid. - milarepa, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I am shocked by this information. shocked.
- dmjarrington, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15@jatlasb
A popular misconception is that our government ***** everything up on accident... Have you ever stopped to consider that they actually want people to die?...
America is being destroyed by design by a small, dominate group of men. - eShinn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Heh, you guys think this is just about a couple of towers? Take the red pill or the blue pill.
- jobu00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11@dmjarrington
If only Americans had the education or reflection to realize this. Anyone notice that this scam is only working in the US? Spain - voted the scammers out. UK - going to vote the scammers out. - Shadar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"Is that what was whispered to him? "
Yes, that is exactly what was whispered to him. His chief of staff has talked about it and said that those were his exact words: America is under attack.
And after hearing these words, the president, the commander in chief sat there for 7 more minutes.
Either A) He's a moron/horrible president. B) He knew about it already. C) He knows others make all the important decisions in his administration anyways. D) His chief of staff lied about what he told him
Or I suppose a few of those could be possible... heck, all of the above could possibly be true. - dmjarrington, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17terrorism is a myth. state sponsored terrorism has existed for thousands of years. you have been brainwashed.
WAKE UP GOD DAMMIT. - tominabox1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"His job by the way is to do what he feels is correct, not what you peons tell him is correct."
Actually as an elected official he is supposed to do what the people want him to do. THAT is his job, not do do whatever the hell he feels like. - Eleo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"whose to say that he wasn't a target that morning?"
Unless of course he knew he wasn't a target that morning.
My theory has never been that the government personally demolished or even asked for the attacks. But I can't shake the feeling that they let them occur by blatant inaction. - ZeroG52, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@signalis
Millions if she swallowed..... - mancat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The joke's over.
- eShinn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12For HappyScrappy.
No, bad acting by a president doesn't make a conspiracy. Having trucks removing gold deposits from under the trade towers prior to their falling does. Having structures like these two fall within a few hours of fire when lesser structures withstood higher temperatures for much longer does. Having one of the engineers of the company that built the towers stating that its impossible that they could have fallen in a report and then being fired the day after his statement does. Having the buildings come down so nicely rather than coming down side ways (notice small explosions 30 feet below the crumbling top) does. Having bomb sniffing dogs removed from duty the day(s) prior from the security team does. Having the owner of the complex take out a record high insurance package with special focus on terrorist attacks does. Having the airforce run a plane hijack drill on the day and days prior and on that day having Cheney in charge (the only time a non-military personel in American history ever) does. Having a president who's father was president and grand-father funded Hilter does. Having every american president ever ever elected of having blood relations to English royalty does.
You tell me. Do you really think this is about two stinking towers built in the mid 20th century? - mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Straw man. He could have calmly and politely excused himself and then gone out to be available to order airliners to be shot down if necessary. In hindsight it didn't matter much what he did at that time, but what if it had been worse?
The Bushes have a history of being slow to act. I remember an interview with his father in 1989 when everyone in the world knew the Iron Curtain was falling, Bush Sr. said "I think we need to take a wait and see attitude". Bush Jr. was also slow reacting to Katrina.
The worst thing about Bush's paralysis on 9/11 is that he made the country appear to be running on autopilot, or worse, like a ship without a rudder. I'm not confident that he will be able to do what is necessary if there is yet another disaster during his term in office. - dmjarrington, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8just a tip:
the comic book thing isn't clever. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Yes, and the governement had nothing to do with the Iran Contra Scandal either.
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