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- inactive, on 02/23/2008, -6/+167Why is George Bush relevant in this discussion? He doesn't get to decide what Congress passes. He can sign or veto. Period. His choice.
- anselm83, on 02/23/2008, -3/+151Hard to believe this man can even muster a 19% approval rating.
- tpawloski, on 02/23/2008, -2/+108Dictator Bush sounds a little worried.
- thechr0nic, on 02/23/2008, -2/+91Call me crazy, but I would think it would be a good thing if they would be 'increasingly reluctant to help U.S. intelligence agencies' The law is the law, and when you break it, you should be punished.
FTA:
Bush has contended that companies would become increasingly reluctant to help U.S. intelligence agencies without immunity - littlebylittle, on 02/23/2008, -1/+86Why this guy hasn't been impeached is one of the biggest mysteries of my lifetime, if not the single biggest.
- xoxuxox, on 02/23/2008, -2/+77I love how the "terrorists" are too stupid to communicate via FedEx and overnight delivery. Or via World of Warcraft. And criminals are never paranoid about who might be snooping. Security is a red herring. The telecommunication industry broke the law, specifically the Fourth Amendment, on the say so the the United States government. The people have a right to take these issues to court to find out exactly what happened. Or the terrorist win.
- Terr01, on 02/23/2008, -2/+76What the hell does that have to do with giving amnesty to the telephone companies?
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -1/+68He would rather protect the telecommunications companies from legal action than protect American lives. That is a fact.
- inactive, on 02/23/2008, -3/+57Mr bush is all for the rule of law! As long as he is above the law!
- Gabberwok, on 02/23/2008, -2/+54I'm fine with no compromise - as long as it results in no bill.
- inactive, on 02/23/2008, -3/+55Because it's something obviously WRONG that Bush, in his infinite retardation, believes is RIGHT.
See, President ***** beleives he can spy on anyone, anywhere, and they have no right to protest, and don't even have a right to know about it.
Classical Tyranny. - zplot, on 02/23/2008, -3/+44For the love of G-d, or Science, or whatever else one believes in, Bush has to just stop. Everyone has a right to a fair trial. It should not be up to Bush to permit imprisonment without trial for enemies in Guantanamo, and then protect his buddies from responsibility for illegal activity. The judicial branch of our government was created for a reason.
- solfood, on 02/23/2008, -2/+43"Think about what we’ve been hearing from the White House in this debate. The President has said that American lives will be sacrificed if Congress does not change FISA. But he has also said that he will veto any FISA bill that does not grant retroactive immunity. No immunity, no new FISA bill. So if we take the President at his word, he is willing to let Americans die to protect the phone companies. The President’s insistence on immunity as a precondition for any FISA reform is yet another example of his disrespect for honest dialogue and for the rule of law.
It’s painfully clear what the President’s request for retroactive immunity is really about. It’s a self-serving attempt to avoid legal and political accountability and keep the American public in the dark about this whole shameful episode. Like the CIA’s destruction of videotapes showing potentially criminal conduct, it’s a desperate attempt to erase the past. "
- Sen.Edward Kennedy - morcheeba, on 02/23/2008, -1/+41If the phone companies get sued, then his administration's involvement in the illegal wiretaps will come under scrutiny. He's doing this to save himself.
- nsanidy, on 02/23/2008, -2/+40With a Dick and a Bush in power we all get *****.
I hope to see that greasy little ***** leave the oval office for the jail cell he has earned. Him and all his little buddies in the administration need to be held accountable for all the laws they have broken. Since day one he has been driving this country and it's ideals into the ground.
That's treason, Mr. Bush. - neognostic, on 02/23/2008, -3/+37Technically it is High Priest Bush, since we are now governed by a Theocracy.
- Waiting2awake, on 02/23/2008, -3/+37 You sir are not a good German - you are a great German.
I can only hope to see what the real Americans do to people like you when they find out who they are really at war with. - Napoleone, on 02/23/2008, -6/+39"Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens’ lives. Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons." - Ron Paul
- terrachronos, on 02/23/2008, -2/+34Wow, that sounds like a full admission of guilt in violating our rights and law, should be good evidence to use in the coming lawsuits
- inactive, on 02/23/2008, -2/+33Apparently laws don't apply to him, he can listen to your calls, read your email, whats next, randomly searching peoples homes?
- piouspeter, on 02/23/2008, -2/+31Why don't we have any international respect? Because of this *****!
Bush should have come in first in this years edition of "top ten tyrants threatening America". - kaelyiesta, on 02/23/2008, -2/+31Security for americans? Are you really so scared? It seems odd coming from someone using insults like "weak-kneed gurly-boys". Allow me to clue you into a very obvious fact: Fighting against unconstitutional laws that give us the illusion of security by taking away our rights is probably one of the more courageous things a politician can be doing right now. With so many people like yourself insisting the government control us, the brave men and women in government who stand up against that tyranny are the only ones who do not fit your insult.
You sir are actually describing yourself, and the politicians who would gladly use your fear to benefit themselves and their buddies. - ganjadude4391, on 02/23/2008, -1/+29sooo... because the telephone companiy BROKE THE LAW.... but they were doing so for bush that makes it ok..
I got ya, makes total sense!
/sarcasm
If i did what the phone companies did everyone would have my head on a ***** platter - xhazerdusx, on 02/23/2008, -2/+30***** George Bush!
IMPEACH! - inactive, on 02/23/2008, -3/+29Yeah, it's great when a psychotic scumbag breaks the law and violates the Constituion because he has no regard for the law or America.
Yeah, that's just super.
The fact that ***** like you are so clueless you think this is good is pathetic.
You right wing extremist ***** are so unethical it makes me sick to my stomach.
To so willingly shill for evil is disgusting.
Too bad you were raised so badly. Poor parenting produces children that lack the moral and ethical upbringing that produces good people.
You total lack of ethics or morals is revolting.
Why don't you crawl back to LGF and you and the other floaters can laugh about all the laws Bush has broken.
You rightards and your desperate need to worship Bush is sad. The fact that you can't tell right from wrong makes me pity those people who are unfortunate enough to be entangled in your life. - silicongat, on 02/23/2008, -1/+27In the old days we killed traitors.. now we elect them.
- djadamjay, on 02/23/2008, -1/+25as Olbermann said... then Bush is, by his very own definition, aiding terrorists.
- inactive, on 02/23/2008, -1/+25Dictators rarely compromise.
- mikelieman, on 02/23/2008, -0/+23I wonder how come the CRIMINAL ACTS committed already haven't been prosecuted by the Loyal Busies as the DOJ.
Oh, yeah, right.... Loyal Bushies at the DOJ are obstructing Justice. - ussoldier, on 02/23/2008, -3/+26Thank god, we can't give the terrorists one inch. If anybody can make private phone calls anywhere using any phone, think of what kind of communications terrorists could get away with, right inside the country. Planning explosives to go off, remotely detonating IEDs using cell phones, ordering chemical supplies over the phone. Hell, even using the phone to campaign for dollars. Or even ordering assisnation strikes, or commision the building of nerve gases and weapons of mass destruction, or recruiting thugs to kill people. Oh, wait, no that last sentence is in reference to the CIA. Sorry. I sometimes get terrorists and the CIA confused.
- theNazz, on 02/23/2008, -2/+24There should be 'no compromise' on Telecom immunity... there should be arrests, trials, and convictions for the people involved with illegal spying on American citizens.
- birdly, on 02/23/2008, -2/+23No compromise? Good! No ***** immunity!
- Terr01, on 02/23/2008, -4/+24He's relevant because unfortunately the Republican party is still strongly invested in rallying behind him.
- Renian, on 02/23/2008, -2/+21Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. --Benjamin Franklin
- mburk, on 02/23/2008, -0/+19Exactly, if he won't sign a bill without immunity, then pass no bill. Just start prosecuting the telcos.
- Waiting2awake, on 02/23/2008, -3/+21Hard to figure there are 19% that haven't noticed yet.
- ...---..., on 02/23/2008, -1/+18"Bush has contended that companies would become increasingly reluctant to help U.S. intelligence agencies without immunity"
And so they SHOULD BE RELUCTANT!!! It's ILLEGAL!!! What's so wrong with having to get a court order for wiretaps - they are almost NEVER refused! Unless of course, the spying is happening to political opponents, or those who might oppose Bush's views... Nah - Bushco would never do that... - piouspeter, on 02/23/2008, -0/+17Also, because he veto craze comes down to the governments decision to legally strip the very nature of our rights. What is our defense against personal injustice? the legal system. He is stripping that of us. He is telling us that the ideals which this government is based on is what we need to forfeit in order to save the government. I don't want to live in a perverted system, whether its safe from terrorists or not.
- piouspeter, on 02/23/2008, -2/+18I forgot that America is based on the personal liberties of everyone here, rather than just those that agree with our government. thanks for reminding me.
They may deserve to die in your, my, and most people's eyes, but if we kill them then that would pervert the system we're trying to uphold, wouldn't it? I don't really ***** understand those that want to stop the jihadists from destroying our democracy by means of destroying it ourselves. Shut the hell up. - formergthing, on 02/23/2008, -0/+15"But but, If we didn't say it was okay for companies to help us break the law, then they won't help us break the law in the future!"
- hiimcliff, on 02/23/2008, -1/+15what the ***** is so hard about getting a warrant? its not like the judge will say no if they have good reason to spy. i totally oppose that *****.
- Arcueid01, on 02/23/2008, -1/+15This man is a complete facist
- inactive, on 02/23/2008, -1/+14Just refuse to give him the freaking bill then!!!
He'll be gone on 1-20-09! - inactive, on 02/23/2008, -1/+14Hey! Who has more right to be above the law - you peasants, or the phone company? Darned right! Certainly not you. Now get back where you belong, or we'll use those holding pens we're building in Alaska for terrorists and political prisoners. Er, protesters. Oh hell, same thing really.
- inactive, on 02/23/2008, -3/+15LoneRanger, Stalin died. He has a tomb in Russia. Go thee and worship, Commie.
- DrunkChimp, on 02/23/2008, -2/+14This moron is the worst president in US history - one day you 20 percenters will realize this. ***** GWB and his ass monkey supporters
- Stochio, on 02/23/2008, -3/+14I've found over the years that about 20% of the population is completely idiotic. For example, I'll read a poll that will say "60% of people say A is better than B. Another 60% think B is better than A." Ergo, at least 20% think both and are complete morons. Not saying that Bush's 20% is necessarily that 20% -- it could be a different 20%. Just saying that 20% of the population is *completely* idiotic and is a general and "helpful" rule of thumb.
- Shaman760, on 02/23/2008, -0/+11Just look who they are drooling over to replace him. McCain? LuLz.....
Silly Republicans. - eavesdrop, on 02/23/2008, -1/+12Does this violate phone contracts? Can't a customer cancel the contract without being charged the "early termination" fee? Hit them where it hurts, their bank accounts.
- Qumahlin, on 02/23/2008, -0/+11You clearly haven't studied many religions. The poster didn't write GOD because his religion does not condone it. I won't spoil for you which religion this applies too, it should take you about 2 seconds of googling.
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