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- DaDrake, on 07/14/2008, -12/+70While I doubt this will have any significant effect (certainly not in the near future) I can't logically think of any reason not to do it. If the USA doesn't drill, China will be (and has with their partnerships with South American countries). I believe the USA can drill will less of an environmental impact, not to mention... voters will be able to have a say on what types of techniques they use (we have no say on what China does).
- DeskFlyer, on 07/14/2008, -10/+63But Perino said Bush no longer wants to wait. She pinned blame on the leaders of the Democratic Congress for inaction. ”They haven’t even held a single hearing,” Perino said. ”So we are going to move forward, and hopefully that will spur action by the Congress.”
Hahaha very funny. Our Congress is about as active as a sloth swimming in molasses. - DeskFlyer, on 07/14/2008, -3/+30That's what she said.
- vexingmodstwo, on 07/14/2008, -5/+31Level-headedness and logic are frowned upon here, man. Cut it out.
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -14/+39Why would you rather has a total economic collapse or drill our oil till we can build our renewable energy infrastructure we can not stop using oil over night.
- zippybean, on 07/14/2008, -26/+51Drill here drill now!
- MadKennyP, on 07/14/2008, -29/+50Lower gas prices in 1 . . . 2 . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,399,385,976,398,385,298 seconds.
- beezneez, on 07/14/2008, -54/+73A step in the right direction. Now will Congress become a part of the solution, or remain a part of the problem?
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -43/+60This was absolutely the right choice..GWB got this one right
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -6/+22Do you really think oil will go away as a resource anytime in the near future? 5, 10, 15, 20 years? I think you underestimate the amount of fossil fuel vehicles across the globe and the amount of production needed to make replacement vehicles, with alternative fuel sources that can travel farther then 200 miles. Not to mention, do you really think that all the people across the globe will be able to buy a new vehicle that doesn't use gas?
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -20/+35ITS NOT GOING TO EFFECT THE PRICE!!!
- superkendall, on 07/14/2008, -9/+24So you'd selfishly rather get it from other countries where pollution controls are less rigorous than here.
Way to destroy the environment you claim to cherish, sir. - EtherGnat, on 07/14/2008, -2/+15@philipl411
What makes you think there is a solution that will bring about any significant and long lasting reduction in prices? We can remove all limits on drilling and it might help some for a few decades (drilling in ANWR would increase world oil supplies by 0.3% for 30 years for example) but at the end of it we're in even worse shape than when we started.
We need to build up our Nuclear capabilities, and continue to develop renewable energy as well but I doubt either will lead to a significant reduction in energy prices. Conservation is another key--if we can reduce usage by a trivial amount it will have a greater impact than domestic drilling. - inactive, on 07/14/2008, -91/+103It is about time.
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -20/+32This great news would you rather has a total economic collapse or drill our oil till we can build our renewable energy infrastructure we can not stop using oil over night.
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -6/+18There are far too many vehicles in the world to make oil/gas a needed resource for a long time. There is no magical wand to make a vehicle, using alternative fuel sources, that is affordable and can travel long distances. There is also no magical wand to produce millions of vehicles across the globe to replace gas burners. Even if there was, are you going to force people to buy the new vehicle even if they can't afford it? Not to mention plenty of products are reliant on oil as well, such as diapers. The plain fact is we need oil, the world needs oil and we either rely on other countries to supply us for the decades to come, or we try to be more self sufficient.
- Brownds, on 07/14/2008, -3/+14look at the track record...
- zyklon, on 07/14/2008, -3/+14Apparently you don't understand how monopolies work. Stop being an idiot.
- ohplease, on 07/14/2008, -9/+20
It's the oil companies themselves to blaim for the price of oil. So your plan is to reward their manipulation of the market by giving them the greatest prize they could ever imagine, lifting the US Offshore Drilling ban?
There was no oil shortage. No gas stations ran out of gas. The price of oil is being manipulated and high prices at the pump is one of the best ways to get support for lifting the ban.
Don't fall for it. - ender7074, on 07/14/2008, -23/+33Good, then you pay for my gas if its such a nonissue to you. Also, since it will take a few years (nowhere near 10) why not start now. People like you are the reason we are in this situation to begin with.
- VicHislop, on 07/14/2008, -3/+13I cannot believe I had to wade through all of this muck to find the first post that actually spoke to the reality of the oil market. This will have no effect whatsoever on oil prices. This is purely a political move to bolster the morale of this country without really doing anything of substance at all. (Or, if you prefer, as McCain himself admitted, this is all largely for a "psychological" benefit.) It's such a shame so many are so short-sighted.
- Taiyoryu, on 07/14/2008, -2/+12I would prefer decreasing our dependence on oil altogether. People should have more choices for their energy needs. Gasoline has its uses, but it need not be the only fuel for all vehicles.
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -10/+20You guys actually think this is going to lower prices at the pump?
Damn, no wonder you vote Republican.... - fluoro, on 07/14/2008, -3/+12This will not make oil cheaper. We have plenty of oil, it's just expensive because of speculations of war with Iran. Not only do we have plenty of oil still, we also have plenty of places that more oil can be drilled in the US right now. The oil companies just aren't using it. But they still want to get at the places that are currently banned even though they don't need to. If they're given access to all this land now, they're still not going to drill it for a long time and we're not going to see lowered gas prices.
A conspiracy theorist might say that Bush's administration isn't really as interested in a war with Iran as they pretend, that they're doing all this just to deliberately spike the prices of oil and get the oil industry richer. And with the oil prices spiked they can claim there is a shortage of oil and deliver all this protected land to the oil companies right now, then cease with all the warmongering talk against Iran and let it appear that gas prices lowered because we gave the oil companies access to all this land that they didn't really need anyway.
High oil prices are actually good news for long-term renewable energy development. Back in the 70s there was a big oil embargo and gas prices skyrocketed, and everyone was interested in fuel economy and such. But as soon as the gas prices lowered then nobody gave a ***** about fuel economy or wind power anymore. If oil prices were to go significantly down next week, we would no longer be seeing interest in fuel efficient cars or in solar power or other renewable energy sources. People would go back to buying ***** of SUVs and stuff. - n1eb, on 07/14/2008, -0/+9Don't run with scissors.
- blogosphear, on 07/14/2008, -2/+11Hey so this means speculators can speculate that the price will fall down and we will have cheaper gas again. This doesn't even have to happen in order for those prices to drop as long as the speculators do exactly what they've always done and speculate.
SPECULATE AWAY DUDES! - inactive, on 07/14/2008, -10/+18I was on the beach in Seal Beach, California one day reading a book. Hundreds of people in the water and laying on the beach all around me. I wear glasses and clear oil kept fouling my glasses....so I asked the lifeguard on duty where the oil was coming from and if it was safe. "Is there an oil leak somewhere," and he said the water has been tested very frequently and the "oil" was from LA sewage and the military base on the coast. He told me it was all very safe, nothing to be alarmed about....NO oil leaks. I packed up and left.
I think the coast is already toast. They are not treating the HUMAN EXCREMENT and any fool in the water is going to get it on themselves....don't kid yourself.
I say drill now, learn how to treat the human waste better and then when the oil is gone take care of the coasts....we have less than fifty years of oil left. Drill now. - MorganMghee, on 07/14/2008, -3/+11That's right, when even the ones who know oil say it's a bad idea it's pretty much a bad deal.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/052008Master ... - dekuscrub, on 07/14/2008, -12/+20When gas was 70 cents a gallon this ban probably made more sense.
But now the time has come. Even if it helps a little (i.e. not decreasing, but not increasing prices either) then it's worth it. - doctechnical, on 07/14/2008, -12/+20But if another nation drills off our shores does it there's no risk to our fragile coast lines? What spooky new oil drilling technology do they have that we don't?
As far as the time it takes gas prices to drop - spot oil increase overnight on bad news from the Mid-East. You expect me to believe that news of our drilling would take 10 years to change prices? Please. - SeraphX, on 07/14/2008, -2/+10*Affect
- SkippyDoorknob, on 07/14/2008, -1/+9You've said this like 5 times already
- zephc, on 07/14/2008, -1/+8Bush, McCain and the oil execs are all sucking each other jagons
- angryfirelord, on 07/14/2008, -10/+17While I will say Bush caused some new problems, it isn't wise to blame him for everything. A lot of these economic problems result from the government's "Socialist for the Rich" programs that just end up deflating the crap out of the dollar. Remove the Federal Reserve, the World Bank, any other type of central planning, restore some type of a gold standard and then you'll see the markets stabilize. Drilling may bring down the price of oil a little bit, but it certainly won't stabilize it by any means. It all depends on the value of the dollar.
- ender7074, on 07/14/2008, -16/+23So we should wait longer to start? Genius idea....
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -3/+10ChicoMarxist, we need the oil so that we have time to build the infrastructure that we need out of electricity. It will take twenty years at least to build an infrastructure to support electric cars and trucks.
Just how do you propose to fix the diesel truck transportation problem you Marxist! - floorman56, on 07/14/2008, -8/+15Obama breaths a sigh of relief Now he can say "Bush did it" and Congress . He will just vote "present" again
- xexx, on 07/14/2008, -0/+7I don't disagree, but I'd like Bush far more if he actually did more for renewable energy than the occasional lip service a couple times a year.
- alloystudios, on 07/14/2008, -2/+9Increasing our oil supply will NOT drive down the price of gas any time soon, if ever. We have a refinery CAPACITY problem in this country that doesn't look to get solved anytime soon. Think of it like sucking 100 gallons of water through a straw. If you increase the capacity to 150 gallons you still can't suck any more through the straw so what difference does it make? The oil companies say they cannot afford to build refineries that meet current EPA standards in this country...which of course is silly. The oil we do produce here we sell to China, so why would producing more change that paradigm?
Also, strategically, we want to be the last ones with oil on the planet. Not only is it more expensive to drill in this country because of workers pay, but because of the fact that we have to drill thru rock instead of sand. The EPA is not a bunch of regulatory notjobs, they are trying to do what's in the best interest of the environment. We should have made this transition off of oil back in the 70s when we had this problem, but we didn't so we're paying for it now. Jeopardizing the environment to save a few dollars is selfish and short-sighted. Drive less, ride a bike, support alternative sources of fuel, and suck it up. - SpartanErik, on 07/14/2008, -4/+11Pelosi just stated that the offshore drilling providing 10 years worth of oil is a "hoax"
He's not the brightest in the bunch, but I have to give credit to Bush for at least trying to help.. it's obvious Congress isn't. - mrswirl, on 07/14/2008, -4/+11@QuadZeroRoute
Too bad that this claim is patently false and has been thoroughly discredited. So sorry.
Would you like to try for door #2?
"GOP claim about Chinese oil drilling off Cuba is untrue"
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/40776.html - paraforce, on 07/14/2008, -2/+8Lifting the ban won't help us get any further out of this "energy crisis." Because of this, any environmental damage, even if it is minor, won't be worth it.
- STARTSOMETHING, on 07/14/2008, -7/+13
philipl411
"So what is your solution to lower prices?"
Alternative fuel! The electric car is a start. - ender7074, on 07/14/2008, -15/+21Level of ignorance? How so? Because he has a belief thats not yours. Someone that doesnt buy into the ***** fear mongering of the left and their lies. Nice try but the only ignorant one here is you.
- fluoro, on 07/14/2008, -7/+13The issue isn't even really about environmental impact yet. The thing is, there's no reason to unban the offshore drilling because the oil companies aren't even drilling on all the land that they ALREADY have access to. They're actually using a fraction of what they currently have, but they're taking advantage of the current energy crisis to try to snatch up protected land that they don't even need.
Lifting this ban will NOT make our gas prices cheaper. - Jareth86, on 07/14/2008, -1/+7Is it just me, or is this place leaning further and further to the right?
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -2/+8If you were a company and you could sell 10 barrels of oil at $1000/barrel or you could sell 1000 barrels of oil at $20/barrel, which would you choose?
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -0/+6@fluoro: "And that speculation is being driven largely by all the war propaganda against Iran."
...or the crap going on in Venezuela with threatened worker strikes, or violence in Nigeria, or ...the ***** goes on forever. - briansearles, on 07/14/2008, -10/+16Gas prices weren't $4 back then, so the comparison is rather moot. Not that it matters to Digg (or thinkprogress).
- inactive, on 07/14/2008, -6/+12Even if this happens i doubt we will see a DROP in gas prices. God, that would be so nice.
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