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- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -9/+127Can Congress ***** impeach him already? Jesus Christ.
- RogerStrong, on 10/15/2007, -7/+106So to sum up:
- Bush started illegal domestic spying BEFORE 9/11.
- Bush ran up a record deficit, starting the dollar's death-spiral BEFORE 9/11.
- Bush was planning to invade Iraq BEFORE 9/11.
- Dick Cheney, the former CEO of Halliburton, has made millions of dollars off his Hallburton stock, which has increased in value due to Halliburton's no-bid contract involvement in the Iraq war.
Half of me wants to say, "Pretty convenient terrorist attack there!". The other half says, "No, it didn't make a difference. It all would have happenned anyway." - totorototoro, on 10/15/2007, -2/+82Wait, BEFORE 9/11? At least we won't have to hear Rudy Giuliani's opinion on it then :p
- ravage86, on 10/15/2007, -2/+67That doesn't make it ok.
- damien6669, on 10/15/2007, -11/+69I am pretty sure they have been monitoring communications since long before Bush Sr. The Cold War Era brought along quite a bit of spying and secrecy.
- ruyz, on 10/15/2007, -18/+69http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ http://www.warmadeeasythemovie.org/
- SmackMyMac, on 10/15/2007, -6/+51The government doesn't need to tap my calls to find out what Im up to. They can just call me directly, I've got no problem talking.
Hey DHS, just give me a ring at 800-555-BITEMYSHINYMETALASS. I know it's too many characters but dial it anyway. Keep up the good work. - hiphoc, on 10/14/2007, -3/+44Good idea, maybe if he nuked the entire middle east before 9/11 we could have prevented the attacks!!! Good thinking! War is peace, Freedom is slavery.
- wreckosaurus, on 10/15/2007, -4/+45You're back again? Seriously now ***** OFF. This is your fourth account in one week (that I know of), you keep getting banned for being a retarded right wing troll and you keep coming back. How pathetic is your life? You have nothing better to do than spew your garbage all over a website that obviously doesn't want you here? 67 comments in one day, how many hours do you spend a trolling digg? Every comment you make gets buried, everyone hates you, and you get banned every other day. STOP COMING HERE
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vvoo - honestjoe, on 10/15/2007, -3/+37Sorry I ment to dig you up. By the way you should have mentioned the following:
The Patriot Act was written before 9/11. http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/05.21B.jvb.usapa.9 ...
Before 9/11 they could not institute their plans for global domination without a "new Pearl Harbor". http://www.oldamericancentury.org/pnac.htm
The Taliban had agreed to hand over OBL on the condition that some evidence linking him to 9/11 was presented. Then later after the Taliban realized that no evidence was going to be presented and they were about to be invaded, they offered to hand bin Laden over WITHOUT any evidence but were denied and invaded anyway!
That was because the plans to invade Afghanistan were underway BEFORE 9/11! http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/ ...
American government told other governments about Afghan invasion IN JUNE 2001. http://www.indiareacts.com/archivefeatures/nat2.as ...
July 21, 2001: US Official Threatens Possible Military Action Against Taliban by October if Pipeline Is Not Pursued Niaz Naik. [Source: Calcutta Telegraph]
U.S. OK'd plan to topple Taliban a day before 9/11! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4585010/
Top 25 Censored Stories of 2008 from Project Censored lists as #16 "No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11" The FBI, Department of Defense, and CENTCOM responded to a freedom of information request, claiming that no documents could be found that demonstrates the authenticity of the bin Laden confession video. (Their only evidence!) http://digg.com/politics/No_Hard_Evidence_Connecti ...
The government knew that terrorists could use planes as weapons -- and had even run its own drills of planes being used as weapons against the World Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings, using REAL airplanes -- all before 9/11. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?ite ...
The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), the military air defense agency responsible for protecting the U.S. mainland, had run drills for several years of planes being used as weapons against the World Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings, and "numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft". In other words, drills using REAL AIRCRAFT simulating terrorist attacks crashing jets into buildings, including the twin towers, were run.http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18 ...
http://911proof.com/8.html - williamdyer, on 10/15/2007, -0/+26Paul, Gravel, or Kucinich, take your pick.
- damien6669, on 10/14/2007, -3/+28I am NOT going to argue that! Luckily, I live in Canada where we are naive and think our government doesn't invade our privacy.
- kufu91, on 10/15/2007, -4/+25"You know when a company wants to use letters in their phone number, but often they'll use too many letters? "Call 1-800-I-Really-Enjoy-Brand-New-Carpeting." Too many letters, man, must I dial them all? "Hello? Hold on, man, I'm only on 'Enjoy.' How did you know I was calling? You're good, I can see why they hired you!" "
RIP Mitch Hedberg - uptown, on 10/14/2007, -0/+20Any other freedoms granted to us by the Constitution you'd like to just give away to whatever politician happens to be in office at the time?
- ravage86, on 10/14/2007, -0/+18It doesn't mean it's ok.
- CandidateZero, on 10/15/2007, -0/+17Some senators think impeachment = martial law, election suspension, and attacking Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIO-tCPSfHA
- sakuraz, on 10/15/2007, -0/+16"The wiretapping that was happening before 9/11 was bad.
After 9/11, which reduced its damage to america with my superhuman strengths, it is justified.
9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11.
Oh, 9/11" - uptown, on 10/14/2007, -0/+16*****, that country was my exit strategy......
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -2/+17If he keeps up with that attitude, one day he will be saying " who needs free speech anyways, i don't have much to say"
- honestjoe, on 10/15/2007, -1/+16Cheney and Rumsfeld were disciples of Nixon, who did exactly what is being speculated here with 1970's technology. Remember the enemies list? There's credible evidence that Republicans were interested in obtaining evidence on political enemies through wiretaps, but they were stymied in the Clinton years. The transfer of power offered an opportunity. And that opportunity has been realized.
For what other reason would the Bush administration want the ability to wiretap before 9/11? - ZenMojo, on 10/15/2007, -2/+17What would you do with everybody's secrets?
- uptown, on 10/15/2007, -1/+15I'd like to know which presidential candidate will ROLL BACK things like this?
I haven't heard a single one pledge that... - EmileVictor, on 10/14/2007, -2/+16We don't have a president.
But yes, *he's* an ***** too. - amsterdamordeth, on 10/14/2007, -1/+14or legal
- ravage86, on 10/14/2007, -2/+13I'm sorry if I don't dwell on the fact that I can't bring some old guys back to life to prosecute them. I'm sorry if my concern with making it stop somehow offended your in-the-past philosophy.
- nazadus, on 10/14/2007, -0/+11I think/hope the OP was being sarcastic.
- bitORlogic, on 10/15/2007, -1/+12Yup. For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_SHAMROCK
The US government has spied on its citizens for a long time. Anyone who thinks they've stopped now is hopelessly naive. - christor, on 10/14/2007, -3/+13Even if you were correct in your implication that nothing new has happened here - which I do not believe that you are - not holding *this* administration accountable will guarantee that the next President will also do it. If this President has broken the law, then this President must be held to account. I am not sure why you would disagree with that - unless you think Presidents ought to be able to break the law.
- lopla, on 10/15/2007, -0/+9Imagine that, the land of the "brave" scared of a few terrorists. Take away my civil liberties! protect me! i'm so scared! oh goddddddddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- yubpro, on 10/15/2007, -3/+12What exactly does the Bush administration do with wiretapping? I hear about all that they've been doing, but not about what they hope to gain from it...
Enlighten me, please... - calbff, on 10/14/2007, -1/+10Snippet from another lvvl post:
"Ann Coulter ROCKS!!! AND.......she's dead on! That's what really pisses off the liberals....they KNOW she's right! "
Please, just ***** off. - honestjoe, on 10/14/2007, -1/+10Yeah, buried along with the constitution and our bill of rights.
- sunshinex, on 10/15/2007, -0/+8Torrent: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3787985/Zeitgeist.(200 ...
- mishaco, on 10/15/2007, -0/+8is impeachment on the table NOW ?!
- joot2112, on 10/15/2007, -2/+10Except it used to be done with court oversight. That's where this administration did it differently. They started listening with no warrants and no probable cause.
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -2/+10I criticize FOX News for their content, not titles....
- honestjoe, on 10/14/2007, -0/+7Wake up and smell the fascism!
Unfortunately it seems that the Dems are being blackmailed or are complicit - which is why "Impeachment is off the table". Hell, they admitted to spying on THEIR OWN PEOPLE... remember the "training missions" listening in on Colin Powell - (coinky-dink that he told the UN we had good reasons for invading Iraq - adding an air of legitimacy that was lacking in any reality)
The GOP likes to say they are "the party of ideas", well apparently their favorite and best ideas are coercion and blackmail.... you can bet they have been digging into the Democratic party leadership at all levels and with their past history of "restraint" in how they (the GOP)does things you can bet your last dollar that, that is a factor in the present lack of back bone in the Democratic party' resistance to the administration. Some of these A**HOLES were up to their necks in Watergate when they were cronies for Nixon but now the Bush Administration is "Worse than Watergate".
Their actions constitutes a grave threat to the United States and that they have crossed over that charcoal gray line hidden in the gray areas of the periphery of politics and become a domestic enemy of the nation and her people. These acts are IMO a declaration of "war" upon the democratic party and the democratic process that our nation is built upon! - WilliamDavis, on 10/15/2007, -0/+7I don't just want it rolled back. I want it exposed in full, and the offenders prosecuted. (anyone who had anything to do with it... politicians, business leaders, low level techs installing *****... ANYONE.)
- Tarl, on 10/14/2007, -2/+9Yet, Bush Jr. does his part to ramp it up a few notches.
- cfuse, on 10/15/2007, -1/+8Echelon - no self respecting criminal/terrorist/whatever uses phones in the clear to communicate - ever. Why would you even need to do so when cryptographically secure (and trivial to implement) alternatives exist?
- enki25, on 10/15/2007, -0/+6It was "public knowledge" to you and the other Freepers that Clinton was a devil worshipping Muslim spy, built by Martian scientists to infiltrate the American government and repress liberty. To the educated public, what you are attempting to criticize is Clinton's use of the FISA courts, which under Bush have been allowed to be bypassed completely.
- honestjoe, on 10/15/2007, -0/+6US officials later told CNN that “in recent years they've been able to monitor some of bin Laden's telephone communications with his [step]mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded." Indeed, before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother.http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?ite ...
So while they were not paying attention to Bin Laden, not listening to Clarke, not following up on CIA and FBI leads, somehow they had the insight to want to tap all phone lines because of terrorism and threatened TELCO CEO's to go along ... or else. While they waited for their "Pearl Harbor". - mexretroshore, on 10/15/2007, -0/+6And it was really successful in thwarting the 9/11 attacks, too!
- spucky, on 10/14/2007, -0/+6Don't forget:
vvo
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vvhy
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o0xxx0o where xxx was a number that went through about 30 different numbers - all of them banned for being a disgusting ass.
And many more that I have forgotten. This person changes age and sex with every account. Even if the current account has not said anything so disgustingly racist that it got banned, it is still the same pile of ***** that has said those things in the past and still thinks that way. - macwac, on 10/15/2007, -0/+5this comes as a surprise to you guys? hmm..
(history lesson.. world war II US gov was listening in on all phone conversations of any japanese-american and german-american with ties to japan or europe respectively... during cold war hollywood directors and actresses were phone bugged and put to trial for being communists.. this is certainly not the first time this has happened and probably not the last, until america chooses a leader who gives full privacy rights of individuals, but thats probably not going to happen when you got RIAA fighting to get your personal data from your IP provider =P) - enki25, on 10/14/2007, -0/+5Nope, YOU are wrong. Just because some surveillance was conducted under previous admins doesn't make it equal to what is currently being done. There's obviously a difference between spying with a court order and spying with no oversight, wouldn't you agree?
- honestjoe, on 10/14/2007, -1/+6Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama sought information from NSA intercepts on a Clinton-era CIA nominee back in the late 90s. This was in George Tenet's book; “National Security Agency officials told us that [Republican Senator Richard] Shelby staffers had been asking whether there was derogatory information in their communications intercepts on [Clinton CIA-nominee Anthony] Lake.”http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2007/10/10/senat ...
US officials later told CNN that “in recent years they've been able to monitor some of bin Laden's telephone communications with his [step]mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded." Indeed, before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother.http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?ite ...
So while they were not paying attention to Bin Laden, not listening to Clarke, not following up on CIA and FBI leads, somehow they had the insight to want to tap all phone lines because of terrorism and threatened TELCO CEO's to go along ... or else. While they waited for their "Pearl Harbor".
Also there's credible evidence that Republicans were interested in obtaining evidence on political enemies through wiretaps, but they were stymied in the Clinton years. The transfer of power offered an opportunity. And that opportunity has been realized. Today, news comes that a law firm in Vermont which has been representing detainees at Guantanamo has had their phones bugged. http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... - inactive, on 10/15/2007, -0/+5Last time I checked, CAN was worth more than USD.
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