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- novenator, on 05/10/2009, -22/+192Is there any doubt of this? After the catastrophic failures of the Bush administration and the Republicans, Americans will not easily or quickly forgive or forget who is responsible.
- EnviroChem, on 05/22/2009, -14/+150Combining a really strong and popular two term Obama Presidency with Bush's eight year disaster could leave the Republicans in the wilderness for decades. That is if the Republican party survives at all.
From a purely witnessing history perspective, it would be really interesting to get to witness the death of one party and the rising of another party to feel the void. This hasn't happened in generations. - seltaeb4, on 05/10/2009, -12/+143Hell, the memory of Bush will haunt the WORLD for generations...
- scottknick, on 05/10/2009, -9/+110I used to think the Bush legacy would hold the GOP back too. But watching the party doggedly self-destruct over the last five months, it seems possible that voters will continue to hate them for fresher reasons.
- michaelpinto, on 05/10/2009, -7/+91You know they said the same thing about Nixon, also I think the problems with the GOP go much deeper than Bush. For example holding out against gay marriage is going to make them look like Dixiecrats in a few years — there's also the deeper problem if you don't believe in big government then you have no place running one. But sooner or later the Republicans will go back to folks like Ike and Ford — moderates who rescued the party after the Hoover and Nixon administrations.
- DewOfTheMountn, on 05/10/2009, -8/+78So what if bush killed 1 million iraqis,spent 1/4 of his presidency in vacation,was on vacation during katrina and let them drown for days,then gave a blank check to blackwater to shoot people in new orleans instead of giving money to fema,then congratulated the man responsible for leading fema?So what if he is responsible for the patriot act,no child left behind and abstinence education?So what if he lied to the american people thousands of times to get into iraq so he can empty our treasury into blackwater and haliburtion and kill 1 million iraqis?So what if he set up constitution free zones 100 miles from the border?So what if he gave $30 billion to israel and followed orders from their politicians?So what if he caused most of the world to hate america?HE DID IT TO MAKE US SAFER AND YOU UNGRATEFUL LIBERALS SHOULD BE SHOT FOR BEING UNPATRIOTIC TURNCOATS.
/s - novenator, on 05/10/2009, -13/+78Coming from the man who commonly bashes FDR.
Seriously dude, unless you're some 80 year old Digg using anomaly, you just proved your own hypocrisy. - alpharaptor, on 05/10/2009, -10/+71and cheney will be the monster under the bed til the end of the world.
- normlsparky, on 05/10/2009, -4/+59Like Watergate?
- novenator, on 05/10/2009, -5/+56You a betting man?
- TigerStar337, on 05/10/2009, -7/+50"In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." --H.L. Mencken
Republicans take pride in being ignorant. When ignorance is bliss, Republicans win elections. The USA needs better schools and it is important to teach student how to make good decisions and critical thinking. This is not a liberal or conservative thing. - kalosnycta, on 05/10/2009, -2/+45I think the deeper story here has to do with American demographic changes and the history of our race relations. For a long time the Republicans had a slash-and-burn towards nonwhite voters. They were either indifferent to, or actively hostile towards, the concerns of everyone outside their base. For a long time it worked, and white voters were able to single-handedly sustain them. Nonwhite voters could vote against them all the wanted, and it didn't hurt the Republicans at the polls.
Now, though, that's changed. We've reached a tipping point: nonwhite voters have managed to become an important voting bloc. As their share of the population rises, their power will too - and for a long time to come, their proportion of the population is expected to increase. They came out in droves to elect Obama, probably the first time their influence was really deeply felt, because that was the first time they could rally enough voting-age adults to have a significant impact. They did, it worked, and now they're here to stay.
That's why the Republicans can't easily dig themselves out of this one: nonwhite voters have a real visceral hatred of Republicans, making them basically as anti-Republican as they come. Republicans can't win anymore by carrying the same people they won for the past 100 years. So this time, it's different: unlike past setbacks, this one is based on a permanent change in the electorate that simply cannot be rolled back. Republicans might be able to pull out an anti-Democrat victory or two, but in order to be electable in the long run, they'll have to change into something they hate (in the fundie base, that is), a moderate, centrist, and resolutely unprejudiced party. - inactive, on 05/10/2009, -8/+49Amen.
The Republican party jumped the shark, and it will not recover until the Republican Washington nobility is replaced by younger men and women who do not see guns and war as the answer to everything and anything. - clvngodess, on 05/10/2009, -3/+44Iran-Contra.
- JoeMondo, on 05/10/2009, -5/+46Phoenic thinks the President pissed off the majority of the US by not making a spectacle of the national prayer day?
Dude, you have a really ***** up notion of what most people's priorities are. - seltaeb4, on 05/10/2009, -4/+40Hey, PhoenixTx,
You didn't answer novenator's question.
Again, you a betting man?
I want to get in on this too... - rhabdomancer, on 05/10/2009, -5/+41You think Sarah Palin has a chance? LMAO!!!
- cplusplus, on 05/10/2009, -2/+37I'll never understand how Bush was re-elected.
- booksnmore4you, on 05/10/2009, -7/+40@LoneRanger85
Mygawd, you are so freakin' shallow. Your posts consist of nothing more than stereotypes of "libruls" picked up from demagogic partisan polarizers. - AgeofMastery, on 05/10/2009, -7/+38http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lon ...
- Spacejack, on 05/10/2009, -1/+31bahahhahaa No really it's bad when people "generation bash" but it's okay when -I- do it because when -I- do it it's true! No really, I'm not completely disingenous... WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING!!!! I SAID IT'S TRUE WHEN I DO IT!!! THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!!
- TheSwashbuckler, on 05/10/2009, -6/+35You must be as dumb as a bush then...
- NiftyG, on 05/10/2009, -2/+29Nixon only ruined his own reputation, Bush ruined the entire party's.
Remember, the GOP leadership was who got Nixon to resign. If our current GOP had done the same thing with Bush, they'd have a lot more power today. - AmazingSteve, on 05/10/2009, -6/+32Nobody but Karl Rove was talking about a Republican dynasty. The rest of us were laughing at him.
- defwheezer, on 05/10/2009, -2/+27Democrats will become the new Republicans in a 2012/16 run against the... "Greens"?
- TheSwashbuckler, on 05/10/2009, -2/+27Republicans have a lot to do with the problem. They don't want bipartisanship. They're acting as though they still control Washington.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 05/10/2009, -4/+27We can only hope so...
- Mnementh2230, on 05/10/2009, -1/+23I'm in the tax bracket that will be taxed more under Obama, and I'm happy to do it. I'm willing to support our country by giving more to it, because I am able to without undue strain.
- C0ntraRadical, on 05/10/2009, -7/+28Sounds like generational hating to me.
- brikj, on 05/10/2009, -0/+21KLBP - I'm with you on the the new party thing. What I think is most likely to happen the that the Republicans split into two parties. One secular and one religious. The secular branch being more moderate over all, mid-right on economics and mid-left on social issues, could very easily draw the support of conservative Democrats. Heck they might even get me. The religious branch would I think devolve into a party advocating a theocracy. While that seems very reasonable to those advocates, I think that the majority of people wouldn't go for it.
Third parties don't have much of a track record in the US but a splitting of the Republicans might make it possible specially if some Dems join the middle.
That does lead to some interesting questions about how various votes might turn out. What would happen if nobody got 271 electoral votes for president? Would the House decide? What if they split their votes 3 ways?
That would make for some interesting times! - JoeMondo, on 05/10/2009, -7/+28Then recognize you are in a distinct minority.
- frygar, on 05/10/2009, -3/+24Why do you hate America, LoneRanger? If you don't like it here, move.
- NiftyG, on 05/10/2009, -0/+20Those roles flipped when Lyndon Johnson passed civil rights in the 1960's and the Democrats finished the job the Republicans started 100 years prior. That was one reason why the Democrats lost the south. It was also why Wallace quit being a Democrat and ran with the American Independent Party in 1968.
1968 was also the year Nixon took the GOP away from their roots when he invented the southern strategy to win the votes of southern whites. This directly lead to the GOP's current strength in the south - which has become their last bastion. - inactive, on 05/10/2009, -9/+29Why do you think the GOP is pandering to fundies and right wing loons?
- JoeMondo, on 05/10/2009, -2/+22Well, you're flat out stupid then.
Look at who voted for Obama. It included a large suburban swathe of voters. - oboshoe, on 05/10/2009, -2/+22Last time I remember the Democrats being so confident was 1993.
Nothing is permanent kid. - THETEH, on 05/10/2009, -4/+23I'm a liberal and I don't "hate" Nixon. Some of his foreign policy was actually very sensible. I disagree with some former republican presidents, such as Reagan, Bush the first, and ESPECIALLY G. W. Bush. Don't accuse others of "hate" when you routinely stereotype liberals as "stalinists" when, in fact, most American democrats are center-right compared to the real socialists of Europe. Not to mention your extremely hateful views on Islam that you and I debated a while ago.
- Groovydoo, on 05/10/2009, -0/+19When I read the snippet I thought, too hyperbolic, Republicans are toast for just one generation or 30-years. Then I read the article and it is definitely clear, the Republicans will potentially be crippled for as much as 90-years if the Democrats don't pull a "George Bush" on us.
- C0ntraRadical, on 05/10/2009, -7/+26And I'm sure you have no opinion on Carter right?
- Rahaz, on 05/10/2009, -6/+25Considering the republican party is still making love to books that are filled with Reagan's quotes they obviously have a long memory.
- Mnementh2230, on 05/10/2009, -0/+18The republican party of the civil war era is not the same as it is now. Democrats and Republicans have changed sides on a lot of issues since then, IIRC.
- seltaeb4, on 05/10/2009, -5/+23I sure bet Silver wishes he could block LoneRanger85...
If the LR isn't careful, he'll get two permanent horseshoe imprints on his chest.
Again... - JoeMondo, on 05/10/2009, -0/+18The Repubs will certainly come back, eventually. But they'll be changed in order to be successful.
And that will mean cutting loose their social fascism, and getting back to fiscal responsibility.
They have a long way to go. - mazaj423, on 05/10/2009, -2/+19Your right nothing good comes from hateful hearts. Like the 4000 + dead in a war in Iraq so business associates of Bush & Cheney could make billions is that what you mean. Or do you mean how by committing torture The Bush Administration help Al Qaeda increase recruiting and put more U.S. Soldiers in danger.That's what you meant by people with hateful hearts right.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 05/10/2009, -0/+17Historically, no President loses election during a time of war. This is why Rove made sure that A) there was at least one war going on, and B) their campaign made the war its #1 issue.
The fact that the war was unjustified, pre-emptive, illegal, and unpopular--started by the very men who wanted to stay in power for their own ends--didn't matter to the electorate as a whole.
In times of fear, the neanderthals among us instinctively rally around "Daddy" for safety and comfort. It's primal. Rove knows that. It's why fear is so useful to politicians (power = control) and now the media (hype = viewers = ad dollars).
It's really that simple...and sad. - TigerStar337, on 05/10/2009, -7/+23Republicans are all about jingoism. Things have changed. The world has changed. Soon, China will be the world power and the USA will go the way of the British empire. There will be no one to bully around. China has already said that they will not be the USA's credit card anymore. In the past 2 quarters, they have not bought much US Treasuries. Americans are doomed.
- frygar, on 05/10/2009, -0/+16I'm still in my 20's and I don't mind paying taxes. Those roads won't pave themselves.
- JoeMondo, on 05/10/2009, -2/+18Funny.... why did he have full Repub support?
- aijazbaig1, on 05/10/2009, -9/+25It isn't just bush or cheney or clinton...America's political elite has been playing with other countries' lives since the past six decades. As an example consider Iraq.
If u want a quick glimpse into Washington's dirty games in this country should read and digg this:
"A tyrant 40 years in the making" from the NYT
http://digg.com/political_opinion/A_Tyrant_40_Year ...
FTA:
"The United States also sent arms to the new regime, weapons later used against the same Kurdish insurgents the United States had backed against Kassem and then abandoned. Soon, Western corporations like Mobil, Bechtel and British Petroleum were doing business with Baghdad -- for American firms, their first major involvement in Iraq."
Also FTA:
"As its instrument the C.I.A. had chosen the authoritarian and anti-Communist Baath Party, in 1963 still a relatively small political faction influential in the Iraqi Army. According to the former Baathist leader Hani Fkaiki, among party members colluding with the C.I.A. in 1962 and 1963 was Saddam Hussein, then a 25-year-old who had fled to Cairo after taking part in a failed assassination of
Kassem in 1958. According to Western scholars, as well as Iraqi refugees and a British human rights organization, the 1963 coup was accompanied by a bloodbath. Using lists of suspected Communists and other leftists provided by the C.I.A., the Baathists systematically murdered untold numbers of Iraq's educated elite -- killings in which Saddam Hussein himself is said to have participated. No one knows the exact toll, but accounts agree that the victims included hundreds of doctors, teachers, technicians, lawyers and other professionals as well as military and political figures".
And people wonder why is there no love lost for the US in these nations... - xenuxenuts, on 05/10/2009, -1/+16They do, until the democrats can pick up another seat. The republicans know that fixing health care will erode much of the work they did to transfer wealth to the top 1%. Once everyone has health care, workers will become more mobile. Mobile workers will demand higher wages, rather than just surviving on easy credit instead of actual wage increases to maintain their lifestyle.
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