What is Digg?Sponsored by Double Your Dating
Get Her To Pick YOU Up view!
doubleyourdating.com - An easy way to get a woman to start a conversation with you - no fancy lines required...
139 Comments
- Calann, on 11/19/2007, -6/+109Why is it that Conservatives favor increased homeland security more than Liberals? I believe this is because terrorism is more effective on them. To a large degree, security and freedom are mutually exclusive. The more security you have, the less freedom you have and vice-versa.
Apparently Conservatives were so traumatized by the 9/11 attack that they are willing to sacrifice some freedoms in order to be more secure. Liberals apparently already feel secure enough and are not willing to give up more freedom.
My personal view is that the threat of terrorism has been overstated. Putting the 9/11 attack into context, about 3,000 people were killed by that attack. This is truly horrendous, but according to the Department of Transportation, over 43,000 Americans died in auto accidents last year. That is like more than 14 WTC type attacks on our roads every year. Yet most people are not terrified to go out on the highways.
The goal of terrorist is obviously to terrorize people. In this respect they have been far more successful frightening Conservatives than they have been at scaring Liberals. - dgh1973, on 11/19/2007, -0/+44"Apparently Conservatives were so traumatized by the 9/11 attack that they are willing to sacrifice some freedoms in order to be more secure. Liberals apparently already feel secure enough and are not willing to give up more freedom."
"Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither" -- Benjamin Franklin (paraphrased and less eloquent, but that was the distilled version).
That quote holds true today just as it did some 250 years ago. - myotive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+25Homework Assignment (since I am at work and believe that the research would take up too much time...i.e. laziness)
How many people under the Bush Administration have resigned? How does this compare to other Administrations? - john570, on 11/19/2007, -0/+25Ya know when the whole story comes out on this administration its going to make a really good movie. Hopefully the country will still be around.
- inhaler, on 11/19/2007, -3/+27Just ask the question: who are the people who are "really" scared of terrorism? Those who run businesses in large targetable cities, those who frequently fly, those who are protected by high price attorneys and escape the rule of law. Wealthy people.
Your frequent flier miles won't protect you from a hijacked airline, nor will your high price attorney finagle you out of terrorist attack. Even your children, who you've relocated to private schools to escape the violence of the "proletariat classes" in public education, won't be safe. Terrorism actually scares these people because they have so much to lose, and every contorted and established means of protection that they've built up while exploiting the common folk fails against a man who is willing to die for a message. They can't placate these people with consumer goods or shiny advertising, nor can they contort the law into their favor in gaining an upper hand on them. Terrorism is something they can't control and are very afraid of, and they're willing to throw money and clout around to ensure THEIR safety before our freedoms. - pilgrim3970, on 11/19/2007, -1/+21"Why is it that Conservatives favor increased homeland security more than Liberals? "
Whatever...
I am a conservative and from the beginning felt that the DHS was little more than a waste of money and resources. Further, I am not willing to have my freedoms abridged so that I can have some false sense of security. Finally, I don't buy into the idea that "them terrorists are out to destroy the American way cuz they hate our freedom" - they are angry because our government has a tendnecy to meddle where it shouldn't be. - PhonicUK, on 11/19/2007, -3/+23In next weeks news: Fran Townsend, Former Homeland Security Advisor to President Bush, was found dead in her home at approximately 11:15 this morning. The cause of death is still unknown at this time but there is great speculation that she may have comitted suicide shortly after having resigned her post as Homeland Security Advisor. The theory goes that after realizing that the loss of talent has resulted in Bush losing a foothold in his final few months in office, she concluded that the terrorists have won because it is common knowledge that undermining Bush politically is what the terrorists want. Upon this realization she decided that since her resignation helped the terrorists she must herself be a terrorist and took her own life.
- baalzebub, on 11/19/2007, -2/+22did she grow a conscience and start feeling guilty?
- faskill, on 11/19/2007, -1/+21Major People? Like Rove, Rumsfield, Snow, Gonzalez? Or just random people that gave up?
- bjs3171, on 11/19/2007, -0/+17man, it must be getting cold in that big white house.
- Jorin, on 11/19/2007, -0/+16I can see why so many top officials would want to distance themselvs from the Bush administration. Some, like Rumsfeld have taken the money and ran.
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+16Unintentional irony is the funniest kind of irony.
- fugeelama, on 11/19/2007, -0/+16Another one bites the dust...
- ggrav, on 11/19/2007, -0/+15This is a great quote, defending why Bush used the term "Islamic Fascists": "What the president was trying to capture was this idea of using violence to achieve ideological ends - and that's wrong," Townsend said at a news conference. "Regardless of what label you pin on it, it is this form of radical extremism that really wants to deny people freedom and impose a totalitarian vision of society on everyone, that we object to."
- inhaler, on 11/19/2007, -0/+15I'm waiting to hear Bill O'Reily call Ben Franklin a liberal, or disavow the Magna Carta as anything but more liberal propaganda.
- syroncoda, on 11/19/2007, -0/+12woah *****'s getting bad and the cowards are bailing out as quickly as possible! they don't want to be lynched when it comes tumbling down.
- dp1140a, on 11/19/2007, -5/+17Yeah like maybe he asked her to take it in the ass like he has been doing to the rest of the world for the past 7 years.
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+12rats off a sinking ship...is there any loyal Bushie anymore? and not indicted?
- delafere, on 11/19/2007, -2/+12Erm, the fact that amn3 did bring up Clinton when readthis clearly did not?
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+10You are an old-school conservative. From when it actually had meaning.
- chrisatwork, on 11/19/2007, -8/+17B-b-but Clinton!
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -2/+116 years into a job and someone resigns... dosn't that kinda tell you something?
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -1/+10Townsend has told colleagues she is looking for opportunities in the private sector. It's time to cash in some chips and get that high paying job in Dubai.
- Damian91, on 11/19/2007, -0/+9They're all starting to drop like flies...
- incendiarylvr, on 11/19/2007, -1/+9Security and Freedom ARE NOT mutually exclusive. They have very little to do with one other.
What happened on September 11th, and every other would be attack is the direct result of American irresponsibility. It has/ had nothing to do with faulty intelligence (there was plenty of warning before 9/11). Further, its a corporate take on foreign policy that endangers our safety, not some dudes hiding in mountains thousands of miles away.
The only terrorist I fear is sitting in the white house.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain UNALIENABLE Rights. . ."
I don't see a fear mongering clause in the Constitution, do you? - leetleo, on 11/19/2007, -5/+13Honestly, I think that the vast majority of Americans, conservative or otherwise, feel pretty safe and secure in general. I don't think much of anyone actively worries about another terrorist attack.
The issue really has more to do with partisanship than anything else. Both parties are so brainwashed with hate for one another that they'll pretty much stand by anything passed down by their partisan leadership via the media. - myotive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+7Ah, good point. I should have been more specific.
Originally, I did mean the major people. But now that you mention the random stragglers, I'm curious how many people, in general, have left their position at the White House during the Bush's time in office (again, compared to any previous administration). - faskill, on 11/19/2007, -0/+7You had her? Was it good for her?
- supdigga, on 11/19/2007, -0/+7And more US tax money goes into Iraq's boder security than it does America's.
- pgoetz, on 11/19/2007, -6/+12Of course the real irony is that it seems clear from the evidence that someone in the current administration had some level of involvement in what happened on 911. I was skeptical of 911 Truthers until I went to a lecture given by architect Richard Gage last weekend (http://www.ae911truth.org/). It is more or less impossible (probability 1 in a trillion?) that the official version of what happened on 911 is true, and the icing on the cake is that they destroyed all the evidence as quickly as possible. Watch Gage's video and see if you yourself are not convinced by this compelling (and largely air tight) argument.
- jstevewhite, on 11/19/2007, -1/+7I think what the grandparent meant was "Why does the established self-described "Conservative Leadership" beat their chest about Security so much more than the established, self-described "Liberal Leadership", who are then dragged along on the security bandwagon with half-hearted "Me Too" offerings designed to persuade a susceptible portion of the American Populace who still believe that the government can protect us from random acts of violence by "Islamo-fascist terrorist" to vote for them.
- williamdyer, on 11/19/2007, -1/+6Bogeying hole #2, it's not just for Condi anymore.
- ChaosMotor, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5Not to mention Tom Ridge, Ari Fleischer, Mike Brown, I know I'm forgetting a few more.
- myotive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5What about Secretary of State Colin Powell, Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman, Education Secretary Rod Paige and Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham back in 2004?
- mexretroshore, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5She was probably put into some sort of crooked bind where she would be the fall gal. More so than usual.
- FarEastKilla, on 11/19/2007, -1/+6GOOD! smarter folks finally started to smell BULLSH*T with this "KGB" agency, last time I checked KGB could also wiretap it's own citizens under "national security" and jail them without due process.
People who welling to give up FREEDOM for "safety" are PUSSIES, PERIOD. I thought the right wings stands for less government, correct me if I am wrong, is adding of a huge NEW FED agency that over sees it's own entired citizens considered less government?
wait, let me watch the self declared "independent" O'Raliy, "they" said he is fair an balanced, TV says so, it must be true! I guess some people just blindly follow whatever the idiot tubes tells them. a commiunism/brainwashing nation's dream (I know because I was born in one) - Nocturnalis, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5Karl Rove, press secretary Tony Snow, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and senior presidential adviser Dan Bartlett
- gthrank, on 11/19/2007, -4/+9Isnt it strange how the cons weren't afraid when the 2nd largest terrorist attack on US soil happened in Oklahoma City. Probably because it was perpetrated by one of their own. I think this current terrorism freak-out is just a cover up for the cons' xenophobia and racist isolationism.
- squeezer, on 11/19/2007, -2/+6Although you obviously know this, the Magna Carta doesn't apply to the US anyway - it was an English document signed in 1215, before America was even a glimmer in the UK's eye. Bill O'Reilly, whom I'm guessing we both like about the same, would be far more likely to call the Constitution liberal propaganda. Given his past newscasts, it wouldn't surprise me.
- blackmage439, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4And they continue to drop like flies.
Powell. Rumsfeld. Snow. Gonzalas. And now Townsend. Although Powell is the only one out of this group who isn't a complete douchebag, I'm glad to see the rest of these folks finally pulling the Iron Curtain away from their eyes. - 89992, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4She disagreed with Dick C. on something and then she had to "resign"???? What a coincidence!
- ChaosMotor, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4I'm continually amazed by the misuse of fascism. I've never HEARD of a true-by-the-definition Islamic fascist unless you're talking about perhaps Saudi Arabia's oil business and Wahabbism. Most Islamic terrorists are Islamic TOTALITARIANS, not fascists which would mean that they support corporate control of government.
- ApokalypseNow, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4The original stated purpose of the DHS was to be an agency through which intelligence sharing can occur between the major intelligence-gathering and law-enforcement agencies in the US, as post-9/11 examination revealed that we had all the evidence to stop the attack before it started, but it was all scattered between different groups. If it had stuck with this specific purpose, then it'd be fine. Instead, it has grown into a power-hungry, lumbering behemoth, waving a flag and committing criminal actions on the President's orders.
- dannylewis, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4A less shocking headline would read, "Bush Homeland Security Adviser Commits Suicide."
- buckrogers1965, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4Nobody wanted to be head of the CIA for many months. I think that was the longest that post has been open since the creation of the organization.
- gthrank, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4Wait, wait, don't tell me - was it "to spend some time with her family"? Riiiiight!
- Observant1, on 11/20/2007, -0/+3they destroyed 3 buildings with controlled demolitions, rushed the evidence away, stripping away our rights and are trying to label US terrorists.. 2+2=4. friggin nazi's !
- shadowspawn, on 11/19/2007, -0/+3The big wheel turns. The same spokes rear their visage again.
- Shiftgood, on 11/19/2007, -0/+3Its because they were raised not to think for themselvs. Its called christianity. 1 fat white guy telling lies so much that you start to believe it doesnt differ from the other fat white guy on tv doing the same thing.
Plus, FOX news makes you feel good. Because you have this lowly pathetic life out in the middle of america. You're poor and fat and instead of hating yourself, why dont you turn on Fox news to direct your hate at someone else? then they pat you on the back for agreeing with their agenda, and you go to bed feeling not as worthless.
/true story - GeneralFault, on 11/19/2007, -1/+4Reminds me of the time that you dugg me down for explaining why the war in Iraq was going to be a bad thing. You said it had something to do with me being an idiot...
-
Show 51 - 100 of 139 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is