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Bush, Grandson of Nazi, Compares Obama to Nazi Appeasement

guardian.co.uk — George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany. Prescott Bush arranged loans for Hitler and owned stock in companies that profited from slave labor.

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  • inactive, on 05/16/2008, -20/+95http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/docum ...

    How bout this article, which outlines Bush's conspiracy to stage a coup against FDR and instead use the methods of Nazi Germany to get us out of the depression?
  • andrewtna, on 05/16/2008, -49/+108Thank you for posting this, it's time people hear about this. However, the MSM would much rather spend the day talking about Jeremiah Wright and Michelle Obama.
  • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -23/+80It's funny LoneNut85. I can remember, quite vividly, when Ron Paul was mistakenly photographed with that stormfront crazy (he had no idea who he was) that was more than enough for you to conclude that Ron Paul was a white supremacist racist.

    Here we have the Bush's close family and business ties to the nazis and you declare "nothing to see here, folks!"

    Oh, by the way, Bush was photographed with a nazi and knew full well who he was!
    http://oneworldnews.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/md ...

    I guess the moral of the story is that those whom live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

    That, and, if Bush doesn't want to be compared to Nazis, perhaps he shouldn't; start preemptive wars of aggression, destroy civil liberties in an attempt to centralize power under himself, make racist statements against members of a particular religion in an attempt to scapegoat them, and build secret prison camps where prisoners are tortured.
  • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -18/+64NO! Prescott was originally in business with Thyssen, a Nazi Industrialist, but then later moved on to banking with the Harrimans in NYC. The Brown Brothers' Harriman bank arranged loans for Hitler. They provided capital to his war machine. They collected interest on these loans! They also helped Nazis fleeing Nuremberg hide their assets and move to South America!!

    Prescott had assets seized DURING WW2 under the "Trading with the Enemy Act," and even still, he went right back to it!!

    RTFA, do some research, and don't give me that *****!
  • doctorfungi, on 05/16/2008, -75/+117You've blown this WAY out of proportion.

    Prescott Bush wasn't a Nazi at all. Hate Geroge Bush all you want, but let's not start lying about things. Prescott owned 1 share in a company that was owned by a man who was briefly a financial banker for the Nazis. That same man was later arrested by the very Nazi's he used to be supportive of for denouncing the party.

    By that logic, anyone who owns a Volkswagen is a Nazi. Prescott may have had indirect dealings with Nazis, but the man himself wasn't a Nazi. That's just obscene and irrational.

    Look, I'm not sticking up for what Bush said about Obama. Let's just stick to rational facts though, please?
  • NeoCortex, on 05/16/2008, -29/+69Isn't calling Bush the grandson of a Nazi just as bad as Bush calling Obama a Nazi appeaser? Do we really need to resort to this?
  • bearsandbulls, on 05/16/2008, -32/+63It'snot fair to somehow blame grandchildren for the actions of
    theirgrandfathers. Why not just peg GW Bush with the wrongdoings he's
    donepersonally, there is plenty.

    Savings and Loan scandal
    http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_fam ...
  • Infidelcastr0, on 05/16/2008, -33/+63People know that Bush is a true patriot, that true patriotism is determined by lapel pins and how xenophobic you are, not whether your family fortune (and many of your policies) came from the Nazis.
  • bitfreak, on 05/16/2008, -29/+58If you haven't read this article, it's great...go read it and email it to the usual press outlets. I hope it sees the light of day in the US MSM. I always wondered where the Bush family got their start in wealth building and political power. Looks like the "screw the world to make a buck" gene is strong in the Bush family, not to mention being totally ok with killing people to make a few bucks.

    There is some detail at www.wikipedia.org on this as well.
  • insomniacal, on 05/16/2008, -27/+50Since when does being a criminal's grandson make you a criminal? Buried for guilt by association. There's plenty of ammunition to use against Bush without committing logical errors.
  • bitfreak, on 05/16/2008, -8/+31What is sickening about your comment is how absolutely true it is. My Mother in Law (a devout, almost militant Catholic - I mention this because somehow it always comes up in her church groups) actually thinks Obama is Muslim, and GWB is the greatest president ever. All of this negative media about GWB is propaganda....and so on. It's so bad that my wife and I cannot talk to her about anything, it's really caused a rift in our family.
  • schif, on 05/16/2008, -31/+52but mr. ranger sir ted does not act like a nazi and bush is the biggest nazi that citizens of this republic have ever had to endure as president.
  • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -2/+20It's one thing to have a relative thats ignorant enough to support nazi socialism. It's another thing entirely to have a war profiteering grandfather pass those values down to his affluent, powerful, and politically connected grandchildren who then go on to accuse others of being Nazi appeasers.
  • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -10/+28You're right! You should never compare people to Nazis unless they have secret prison camps where people are tortured, engage in preemptive wars of aggression, and destroy civil liberties in an attempt to consolidate centralized power underneath themselves!
  • SuperVepr308, on 05/16/2008, -19/+34If you took a Bayer aspirin today or drive a VW, you have supported someone that might be related to someone that was a Nazi. Grow up folks.
  • BryanG412, on 05/16/2008, -25/+38The entire Bush family has a legacy of political corruption...how did this man become our President?
  • inactive, on 05/16/2008, -4/+16Well, LR85, if you can find a rightard who can debate like an adult point them to digg, because the rest of you just blather.
    It's pathetic for you to whine about appeasers when you cheer for the Warmonger in Chief.
    Gee, what's more like Hitler?
    Talking out problems, or starting wars?
    LOL
    You fail and fail and fail. If I were you I'd at least have the integrity to choke on it.
    HA! That's funny. As though the right wing extremists will ever stop lying.
    Is the problem that Prescott is a PROVEN traitor and Nazi supporter, while all you losers can do is make baseless claims?
    C'mon dumbass, you are really far too old to keep pulling this crap.
    It must be rough living on the low end of that IQ bell curve.
  • GRANDPAMUNSTER, on 06/11/2009, -5/+16That's our MSM, deciding what's newsworthy for us. Hey CNN/ MSNBC/ FOX, we don't need to hear about celebrities anymore. Your supposed to be NEWS channels not entertainment channels.
  • bjornski, on 05/16/2008, -2/+13How did he become President? You answered that yourself.

    His family's legacy of political corruption.
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 05/16/2008, -22/+332004 called, they want their article back.
  • inactive, on 05/16/2008, -7/+18Well, lets just say that its funny to see Bush compare Obama to Nazi "appeasers", when his own blood was an actual Nazi "enabler."
  • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -10/+21FTA: "You can't blame Bush for what his grandfather did any more than you can blame Jack Kennedy for what his father did - bought Nazi stocks - but what is important is the cover-up, how it could have gone on so successfully for half a century, and does that have implications for us today?" he said.

    "This was the mechanism by which Hitler was funded to come to power, this was the mechanism by which the Third Reich's defence industry was re-armed, this was the mechanism by which Nazi profits were repatriated back to the American owners, this was the mechanism by which investigations into the financial laundering of the Third Reich were blunted," said Loftus, who is vice-chairman of the Holocaust Museum in St Petersburg.

    "The Union Banking Corporation was a holding company for the Nazis, for Fritz Thyssen," said Loftus. "At various times, the Bush family has tried to spin it, saying they were owned by a Dutch bank and it wasn't until the Nazis took over Holland that they realised that now the Nazis controlled the apparent company and that is why the Bush supporters claim when the war was over they got their money back. Both the American treasury investigations and the intelligence investigations in Europe completely bely that, it's absolute *****. They always knew who the ultimate beneficiaries were."

    "There is no one left alive who could be prosecuted but they did get away with it," said Loftus. "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for [the directors of the bank] Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averill Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany."

    What is also at issue is how much money Bush made from his involvement. His supporters suggest that he had one token share. Loftus disputes this, citing sources in "the banking and intelligence communities" and suggesting that the Bush family, through George Herbert Walker and Prescott, got $1.5m out of the involvement.
  • Dignan666, on 05/16/2008, -1/+10Yes. I was making a jab at the fact that this article is 4 years old.
  • tlenker, on 05/16/2008, -23/+32He was referring to Carter, not Obama.

    Oh, and he was correct with what he said. The reaction from the liberals tells me he was right.

    I don't care where his grandparents are from.
  • inactive, on 05/16/2008, -8/+17Oh Mr. Prescott. He was part of an actual conspiracy to overthrow the US government. Look it up
  • kayvman78, on 05/16/2008, -7/+16No, the moral of this story is you "adults" need to stop thinking you know what you are doing. The "kids" are the only ones here that seem to have any sense in their heads..
  • anubis2night, on 05/16/2008, -4/+13Your logic is all wrong.If you opened a hardware store with a serial killer knowing he was a serial killer and knew that opening the store would allow him access to continue killing (as is the case with prescott bush) then yes you would be as culpable for the crimes as the serial killer. It's called colluding with the enemy. It's also called treason. Treason: Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies. A betrayal of trust or confidence;

    It seems that the apples don't fall far from the tree. Oh and Defuser, do you really need to call someone a douchebag? If so why not try that in a face to face with someone on the street. I doubt you would as it would result in your ass getting kicked. Why not try using the same decorum that you would with people face to face. It's o.k. to disagree with someone but to resort to name calling just cheapens the point your trying to make, even if it's not represented by any stated facts as a defense.
  • rolf, on 05/16/2008, -3/+11Sigh, this whole article is based on inherited/inherent guilt -- which the Nazi's used heavily as one of their tactics to demonize jews and others so I find it laughably sad that others are trying the same thing. Human nature never changes. (Although, thinking about it, original sin is the entire basis of some religions.)

    Also, I don't know much about Prescott Bush, but in his wiki entry, all I find is that he held 1 (ONE) share of a company that was trading with the nazis several days after Pearl Harbor:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush#Busines ...

    I don't like Bush and think little of his Presidency. But this "Nazi this, Nazi that" does not help with the argument. I have not read his comments about appeasement and Obama, but I would not be surprised -- he essentially labeled all people against the war as such throughout his presidency.
  • paperclipsNsoup, on 05/16/2008, -5/+13Voting Faud
  • GhostyBoy, on 05/16/2008, -1/+9Okay so granddaddy Bush wasn't exactly a nazi, but HE WAS AN APPEASER!
  • MacEnvy, on 05/16/2008, -3/+11If Ted Kennedy ever becomes president and then accuses others of acting like Nazi appeasers, then I'll gladly digg you up. But in the meantime your argument is called a "strawman".
  • inactive, on 05/16/2008, -18/+26Someone get some guts and stop digging this garbage up. Comon' Bury Bridgade. Do your job!!! Keep the Elite 100 in line. http://www.chrisfinke.com/digg/topusers
  • wrxpert, on 05/16/2008, -1/+8You Fail at being a Defuser.
  • 55mph, on 05/16/2008, -2/+9Neo con diggers reported this article as being inaccurate?

    *****!!

    This article is entirely accurate! Read it and weep.

    Denial is not a river in Egypt dikheads.
  • GoodDamon, on 05/16/2008, -1/+8Ummm.... If you supplied weapons used by that serial killer in his murders, knowing full-well about his derangements, would that make you an accomplice?

    Yes.
  • quarkie, on 05/16/2008, -13/+20Calling Prescot Bush a Nazi is sensationalist and Bush never actually mentions Obama by name. I thought it was pretty clear that he was talking about Carter.
    Inaccurate to the nth degree.
  • inactive, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7google Bush Crowley sometime and see who else might be in his bloodline
  • Yoweigh, on 05/16/2008, -3/+9Did no one notice that this article is FOUR YEARS old??? He was reelected after this came out! If anything was going to come of this, it would have happened a long time ago.
  • blakecr, on 05/16/2008, -3/+9He actually did use the term Nazi. "As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland..." The real problem here is that he was pushing the same political "bull *****" in a speech commemorating the 60th year of an Israeli state. That is deplorable. Did you see some of the reaction shots of the people in the room? They all woke up from a nap and put on their sour faces.
  • kingmanic, on 05/16/2008, -4/+10More accurately he was a Nazi sympathizer who also did a little banking for them and profiteered off of them. He also like their ideology and wanted to over throw FDR to implement it in the US.
  • jeffg1, on 05/16/2008, -0/+6Zeitgeist the Movie and Loose Change. Everyone should watch.
  • casuallyevil, on 05/16/2008, -10/+16"Bush, Grandson of Nazi"? That's a pretty inappropriate smear-job, don't you think?

    ...And he never mentioned Obama. It's a position many politicians hold, and he was very clearly attacking the position of appeasement rather than the individuals who hold that position. That's what intellectual debate is about, you know, attacking ideas, not the people that hold them. Just because it's George Bush doesn't mean you can apply a double-standard and get *ad hominem* about it.
  • inactive, on 05/16/2008, -0/+6and it got a huge laugh out of me...thanks
  • mrsteveman1, on 05/16/2008, -1/+7If the bush family ties to the Nazis aren't relevant, then neither is comparing current presidential candidates to nazi sympathizers, because the nazis are no long relevant to current political situations.

    The bush family however is very involved in other questionable groups, such as the saudi royal family, to the point that US government documents mysteriously have the phrase "saudi arabia" redacted from them, to avoid any possible suggestion that the saudis may have done anything wrong.
  • Dignan666, on 05/16/2008, -19/+25If this article is correct, Bush is going to have a very difficult time getting elected for a second term.

    "The most tantalising part of the story remains shrouded in mystery: the connection, if any, between Prescott Bush, Thyssen, Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC) and Auschwitz."

    There's the key part right there. Two words, 'if any'.

    Prescott Bush was a good guy. Fiscal conservative, social moderate, hell he worked with Planned Parenthood and the United Negro College Fund. If you hate the grandson, hate the grandson. But don't bring up BS to attack the whole Bush family.
  • inactive, on 05/16/2008, -8/+14Where does Bush compare Obama to Nazi Appeasement? Where does Bush say Obama anywhere? Whats wrong with pointing out the historical failures of appeasement in general?
  • Harboggles, on 05/16/2008, -8/+14The very reason bush is president is due to his family roots i think it's perfectly relevant and not a cheap shot. Further, it exposes the hypocrisy of his statement.
  • xGORDOx, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5or MSNBC.
    come on, call a spade a spade.
  • mmmmmbiscuits, on 05/16/2008, -1/+6You get an A+ in moral equivalence.
  • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -5/+10So we should throw our computers out the window? You do remember that IBM supported the Nazi regieme? Oh, and you Volkswagon loving people, all Nazis. If you have a Kodak camera or have ever used Kodak products? Nazi! Drive a Ford or GM vehicle? You Nazi pig!

    Camon guys. Lets have just a moment of rational thought here. I don't like Obama but I'm sure as hell not going to run around calling him a Muslum to be insulting. The sins of the father, whatever they are, are not the sins of the children. Period. Besides, there's pleanty of ***** on the left that have ties to awful orginizations. Robert Byrd anyone? And thats not his father, thats him... The Kennedys... The Clintons...
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