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- alapoet, on 06/17/2008, -11/+122Wish they would nail both Bush and Cheney on this one... But the worse thing they've done is lying about the WMDs in Iraq, thus leading the nation into a pre-emptive war under totally false pretenses.
- obliviousfool, on 06/18/2008, -6/+63Can't we get a subpoena (or two, or ten) for Bush and Cheney?
- ferrell, on 06/18/2008, -3/+53Bush: "Uh, yeah. We don't have those anymore. They must have been thrown out. Oh well."
Just watch. This is EXACTLY what will happen, and congress won't do ***** about it. - inactive, on 06/18/2008, -5/+37I disagree. The worst thing is the torture and murder of innocent civilians.
Although I am favor of any prosecution that will put these men into the general population of a federal pen for the rest of their sick and twisted lives. - swrostmore, on 06/18/2008, -3/+32That never happened. And how can you call Wilson "incompetent" when he was right about Saddam not having WMDs before anyone else?
- allowners, on 06/17/2008, -6/+35There's a propaganda echo in the room.
- bullhead2007, on 06/18/2008, -4/+32I'm just curious what it takes to get a Republican impeached.
Clinton lied about getting a blowjob at a hearing that should never have happened.
Bush commits war crimes, violates the constitution, pre-emtively strikes based on fals information and lies, kills the economy, playes cronyism with the worst group of thugs ever in the executive branch, turns the justice department into his own legal team, etc. - RabidAngel, on 06/18/2008, -5/+32Great thought but - as we saw with the "missing" emails - everyone from the Justice Department to Congress and the Senate is apparently incapable of holding BushCo accountable. The American people could force accountability but they won't.
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -4/+29When have facts ever slowed the right wing lie machine?
- Phearce, on 06/18/2008, -0/+23As Commander in Chief, Bush is ultimately responsible for the actions of all of the armed forces. Therefore, all the secret prisons, illegal detainments and torture fall on his hands.
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -4/+27A lot of things happened while you were in a coma for the past 8 years.
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -5/+27@ImperialRomeYou have the most fitting username in all of diggdom!
Our republic was fashiond after the Roman Republic which collapsed after 450 years and became the hated Empire - just what you are condoning today! Wild! - jimfeet, on 06/18/2008, -1/+21Unfortunately, the justice department is under the executive branch. Bush has surrounded himself with people who place loyalty to the president above all else including the constitution and the good of nation as a whole. I forecast that Mukasey will publicly state that he will not pursue the subpoena for the same reasons he has used before - that it violates the separation of powers.
- Bagos1, on 06/18/2008, -3/+21Well apparently the Bush/Cheney organism are actually a symbiotic life form. The brain part of the system(most feel this the brain Frankenstein used) is with Cheney and the bodily functions (most would agree an inarticulate one) is in the Bush system. While generally harmless if left in a vacuum, one power is given they become self destructive, much like a yeast colony in fermenting wine.
- Shoebox639, on 06/18/2008, -4/+22Republican arguments:
Plame wasn't covert: yes she was. This is documented. She was working on nuclear counter-proliferation.
Plame helped get Wilson to Niger: so? Does this somehow negate the fact that her COVERT status was revealed? You're undercover as a spy and all the sudden, your name picture and everything show up in the news that you work for the CIA? Think about that for a sec.
I don't care if she had to sleep with people to get her husband assigned to this job, that does not merit the leak of her covert status. - kemp34, on 06/18/2008, -4/+19Why would these two clowns only be willing to be interviewed together in relation to 9/11? What's the deal there?
- chrgrose, on 06/18/2008, -2/+17The scary thought is that Bush/Cheney have something really deep that they are hiding--in which case it is highly unlikely that we will ever see it.
No doubt they both would plow through a field of babies with a steam roller to get rid of that kind of information. - relic180, on 06/18/2008, -0/+14Then maybe we should demand the heads of the members of congress, as co-conspirators.
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -4/+18I know why all these right wing hacks keep circulating the false premise that Armitage leaked her name.
because every documentary on the Iraq war has one official that talks about what went on in the oval office.
Armaitage, and that pisses them off more than anything. - Terr01, on 06/18/2008, -1/+14I think you're repeating a lie when you say: "The only person".
Armitage was just one leak.
There's also the Cooper/Rove/Libby leak, among others. - m0tbaillie, on 06/18/2008, -6/+19You're a ***** idiot. That is all..
- WiretapStudios, on 06/18/2008, -3/+15And I quote:
'Official legal documents published in the course of the CIA leak grand jury investigation, United States v. Libby, and Congressional investigations fully establish her classified employment as a covert officer for the CIA at the time that Novak's column was published in July 2003.' - chrgrose, on 06/18/2008, -0/+12ramen.
- Ljay90, on 06/18/2008, -1/+13It's a step in the right direction.
- relic180, on 06/18/2008, -0/+12Does that imply that it's useless to even try?
- Terr01, on 06/18/2008, -1/+13There are several other legitimate grounds for impeachment, most of which have a far stronger legal case and solid evidence behind them, notably Constitutional violations and breaking federal felony-level laws.
Unfortunately, a lot of people seem to get this tunnel-vision over the war. - hermes369, on 06/18/2008, -1/+12Impeach.
- sultanica, on 06/18/2008, -4/+14Too little too late? is there anything that can be done to punish this criminal gang running the country?
- inactive, on 06/18/2008, -3/+12I'm sorry, those aren't available. They've been misplaced.
- Rikkochet, on 06/18/2008, -0/+8Oh, they'll get re-elected.
Democracy is like communism: a beautiful idea, but in practice it's really quite tragic. - m1nds1llus1on, on 06/18/2008, -1/+9You sir, are a moron. Conventional weapons (guns and standard bombs/munitions) are not considered WMDs. The only WMDs he had were various gasses which THE U.S. GAVE HIM. He had no weapons programs, he had no hidden WMDs. If he did they would have been found by now. Iraq fell so fast there was no way he had time to move them out.
- Shoebox639, on 06/18/2008, -3/+11First of all learn to use some commas and break up your sentences.
Secondly, you used the word outed, which the anti-Plame people have not used. See, outing a spy is defined as TREASON. Go look it up in the US Code under treason. Revealing classified information to anyone is treason. Her status as a covert agent for the CIA was classified and therefore, it is treasonous to disclose that information to anyone.
And there we have the true spirit of the Republican party. When they can't beat you with hard facts, they discredit you but outing your family. - Terr01, on 06/18/2008, -1/+9You're being obtuse. We're talking about Saddam having WMDs specifically in the 1999-2003 range.
Note that Reagan/Bush administration greased the way for shipping him chem/bio components even AFTER the halabjah village gassing. So it pisses me off when Republicans whine about "OMG HE GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE OMG" without any comprehension of their previous complicity. - inactive, on 06/18/2008, -1/+9Manadel al-Jamadi for one:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0217-09.ht ...
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/11/14/051114 ...
Abed Hamed Mowhoush for another:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/25/iraq/mai ... - onyxcoltrane, on 06/18/2008, -1/+8Perhaps the biggest revelation from Scott McClellan's bombshell book about his time at the White House is that President Bush directly authorized the leak of Valerie Plame's identity:
- an0nymous, on 06/18/2008, -0/+7Your courtesy does you credit. I apologize for my snarky tone.
- relic180, on 06/18/2008, -0/+7I prefer dismemberment by wild dogs myself.
- an0nymous, on 06/18/2008, -3/+10Oh my, yes please! Honesty.
Are you familiar with Case: 1:05-cr-00394-RBW Document351-2 issued by the CIA which uncategorically proves Plame's covert status? Here's a scan.
http://www.salon.com/news/primary_sources/2007/05/ ...
So having established beyond all question that she was a covert employee it only remains that we decide whom is responsible.
Armitage is certainly an excellent candidate. However McClellan (judged by Bush for many years to be quite reasonable in his understanding of the Bush agenda) has asserted that others were in fact involved in a conspiracy to disclose her identity to achieve political objectives.
You can read about it here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21903753/
So: Investigations all round under oath followed by hangings.
Don't you agree?
By the way the testimony being sought is already in existance. Surely you support greater transparency in this (evidently) confusing matter? - Shoebox639, on 06/18/2008, -1/+7Actually, I think you Republicans have that one. Name calling and changing the subject. Like you just did.
- sultanica, on 06/18/2008, -0/+6How? They passed a law making themselves immune to that.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b91_1190419119 - Terr01, on 06/18/2008, -1/+7"These Subpoenas are worthless because no law was broken"
Even if your glib declaration was true, that doesn't logically follow.
So right back at you: If no law was broken, then they have nothing to hide, right?
(No, the government doesn't have privacy rights. Sorry.) - relic180, on 06/18/2008, -2/+8Ah, I bet you relish that too don't you. So smug in your superiority that you laugh when called names.. because you know they're so very, very wrong. And you're so very, very right.
But how about this. How about people do something about the oil situation AND work to reveal the extent to which our president and his administration 'o fun have acted out of their own greed and indifference toward the will of the people. This is, by the way, in no way, shape or form a which hunt. Which hunt implies a mindless fervor, making accusations out of an inability to empathize or understand something outside of one's own world model. Bush and Co have mountains of evidence, years of public demonstrations, and throngs of abanonded tax payers and dead soldiers to illustrate exactly who and what they are. And belive me when I say that we wholly understand them. They're, is self-interested, un-American opportunists with no remorse for what they've done, which is to thrash the infrastructure and reputation of this country on their way to big bucks.
Enter the American people and charges of war crimes. Something that can bring them the proper remorse they've so rightly earned.
Oh, and while we're at it, we can do some other things to! Wow, what a concept; giving a ***** about more than one thing at a time. I feel dizzy. - omenmedia, on 06/19/2008, -0/+6First rule of management: everything is your fault.
- treehugger87, on 06/18/2008, -1/+7@keymanjim2
You're right, the impeachment was not for the blowjob. It was for lying under oath about getting the blowjob. We NEED to get Bush UNDER OATH. The only way a President can be held accountable for his statements is to be questioned under oath. - Shoebox639, on 06/18/2008, -1/+7Of course it will amount to something. It will amount to the fact that this thing called the "constitution" still works and we still use it.
- Dibou, on 06/18/2008, -3/+8Actually the main argument now is NOTHING was found in the first investigation why are they wasting millions of dollars AGAIN?!
- look4alec, on 06/18/2008, -0/+5centrifuges and labs that are "suitable" for chemical and biological weapons =/= WMDs... and the missiles... who the ***** cares we probably gave them the missiles. Missile is targeted destruction...
- Shoebox639, on 06/18/2008, -4/+9Lol, ya. Nothing was found cuz Libby destroyed everything.
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