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- brentinkc, on 11/22/2007, -5/+62I am so sick of this *****
- inactive, on 11/22/2007, -5/+56Surprise!
Oh wait, no it's not. - gregdbowen, on 11/22/2007, -3/+44If the Democrats cave on this - they might as well run home crying to wash their panties.
The neocons are stating that if they don't get their money, it will be the Dems that make the troops suffer. The gaul! Did you see the CNN special with the seriously wonded vets? That must be our fault too.
Please Pelosi - find some balls. - Terr01, on 11/22/2007, -3/+33"Bush wouldn't know the conservative values that sustained the Republican Party"
And there's the flaw in your argument. If those values were *actually sustained* in the party, why the hell was the Congressional republicans practically in bed with Bush for the last six years?!
No, those values were not sustained! Maybe they can be restored, but Bush's policies and those of "Republicans" and the politically significant "Conservatives" are certainly in sync! - ddcrandall, on 11/22/2007, -3/+32the problem with the democratic party is that they absolutely suck at rhetoric and shaping a debate. putting their foot down and saying that a timetable must precede additional war funds was a triumph for the party at a time when they sorely needed it. if they back down to this pressure, i will have lost all respect for them. they are in a position to turn the tide of a war that has seemed firmly under president bush's thumb for the past four years.
republicans are amazingly adept at turning issues in their favor, even when they are clearly in the wrong. the democrats need to come out with a united front and tell president bush and the american people that all they want is a date: a commitment to redeploy the troops. the democrats are not the ones taking away these soldiers' jobs. it is the obstinance of the bush administration. and it is absolutely disgusting that republicans - who trumpet their support of the troops - would fire these soldiers rather than agree to a withdrawal date for their counterparts overseas.
president bush needs to realize that the republicans are no longer in control of congress, and he no longer has a rubber stamp to do what he wants. - mithrasinvictus, on 11/22/2007, -1/+29Whatever the republican party once was is hardly relevant to todays situation.
- Leomarth, on 11/22/2007, -3/+28It's a sad comment on our politics when the Democrats and Republicans both use children and families as political pawns. It's a sad comment on our society that 96% of voters endorse those two parties and encourage them to continue.
- depro9, on 11/22/2007, -5/+26Who would ever think that this admin would sink so low as to use fear to get what they want?
- avengingturnip, on 11/22/2007, -2/+19And this is what happens when you take impeachment off the table...
- Terr01, on 11/22/2007, -4/+21It's more of the same bait-and-switch. If you had a bill that gave unlimited funding for ammo, equipment, training, armor, etc. but would end the occupation, Bush would veto it. That's because it's not "support the troops" but "support the foreign policy that I've staked my political legacy on". The former is just a manipulative soundbyte.
Sort of like "Prevent them from getting WMDs!" and "Leak information about CIA resources involved in monitoring Iran's nuclear program for political gain". - benroy, on 11/22/2007, -4/+19"The Al-Qaeda terrorists have kidnapped Santa Claus. They have demanded a $2.3 billion ransom. We better pay up."
- pgoetz, on 11/22/2007, -2/+17Bush would not be in power without those "conservative values" voters support.
- laughmore, on 11/22/2007, -11/+23"You Can't Handle the Truth!" - See The Bush Administration Commit Treason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6KbUpGNBts
What was in the 8/6/01 Presidential Daily Briefing on that day? Well, I'm sure everyone Google'd "PDB August 6 2001" but in case you didn't, here's the summary "followed the example of the World Trade Center bomber"..."Bin Ladin wanted to hijack a US aircraft"... Those are direct quotes, NO Paraphrasing! All GUILTY of TREASON, Cheney, Rice, Tenant, Bush.!
What was in the PDB report you ask? just read it for yourself. Never take my word, or anyone elses without double, triple checking it, IMHO.
PDB, August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing HERE
Transcript here: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6. ...
PDF here: http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pd ...
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Long from now, when your old... aw, nevermind... the good stuff.."They may take our lives, but they .. can never .. take .. OUR FREEDOM"!!!!!! Braveheart.
Gracchus: Who will help me carry [the TRUTH]?
Proximo: So [reader], we shall go to [spread the TRUTH] together and have bloody(peaceful) adventures. And the great whore will suckle us until we are fat and happy and can suckle no more. And then, when enough men(lies) have died, perhaps you will have your FREEDOM.
Lucilla: Is [the TRUTH] worth one good man's life? We believed it once. Make us believe it again. He was a soldier of [the TRUTH]. Honor [the TRUTH].
Maximus: The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end [to the Bush Administration - Ron Paul 08].
Maximus: [TRUTH] and honor.
Gladiator - inactive, on 11/22/2007, -3/+13IDIOT CONBABLE TALKINGPOINTS TRANSLATED
"LIBS ARE TRAITORS" = Liberals tell the truth about Bush.
"LIBS HATE AMERICA" = Liberals don't lie for Bush.
"LIBS LOVE TERRORISTS" = Liberals won't lie about Iraq. - roodammy44, on 11/22/2007, -1/+11Sounds like starship troopers "Enlist today and become a citizen!"
You do realise it sounds a bit facist to do your suggestion.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being an active part of society but aren't there better ways than militarising the population?
It sounds pretty much like everything the people who wrote the constitution wanted to avoid - inactive, on 11/22/2007, -2/+12Where have you been? PLENTY of people have been "standing" up to these *****. Their names are Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, etc.
Unfortunately the corporations own the media and the last thing they want are true patriots in power. Its what we call a "media blackout". - inactive, on 11/22/2007, -2/+12No offense but I'm really getting tired of hearing about same old crap on digg about how America is going down the toilet and how ***** hopeless Bushtard is. I agree that Americans have some real issues and that bush acts like a spoiled brat, because he is (handed everything on a plate by his parents, look at his history and upbringing). But come on America grow some balls. All it would take is someone to stand up to him and say NO.
- toasty168, on 11/22/2007, -2/+12criminals have no limits to the lows they will go to achieve their ends. this administration has shown over and over again it will do whatever it wants to achieve whatever it wants. the reason they've been getting away with it is because most people can't believe the american presidency could be run in such a fashion, that their must be a logical, patriotic reason this president does what he does. the fact of the matter is that it's very simple. the president is a coporate, fascist, puppet who thinks god is telling him what to do. he's a deranged, power-drunk, megalomaniac. power corrupts and absolute power corrupts idiots with no discipline and strength of character absolutely. look at his history. he's a spoiled brat that never had any hardships in his life. bush and his buddies are a bunch of pansies. they don't have the wisdom, knowledge, and experience to lead this country. they're just a bunch of corporate whores.
- cazbar, on 11/22/2007, -1/+11Personally I'd say let Bush rot on this one. If Bush lays off 150,000 people, that one is entirely on Bush for not knowing how to manage a budget on what he was given from the start. Not to mention that his approval rating would drop into the single digits. Even his most loyal would find themselves hating him.
I seriously doubt he would follow through on this threat. - VIrus9, on 11/22/2007, -19/+28Before some jackass makes a comment about how sustaining the "war" in Iraq is a part of some republican or conservative agenda, let me remind everyone that neocons like Bush wouldn't know the conservative values that sustained the Republican Party for the better part of the last century if they bit them on the ass.
- DangerCollie, on 11/22/2007, -1/+10They're not soldiers, they're either gov civilian or contractors. A good portion of them are also retired military and get retirement besides a paycheck for their day job. They're not going to starve. And most of them voted for Bush anyway. Being a contractor is a hand-to-mouth existence. Contracts come and go, companies turn over...if you're living paycheck to paycheck as a contractor then you're not too bright and I don't feel sorry for you.
Bush threatened to leave our troops in Iraq with no funding so why would he hesitate to use civilian employees as pawns. He is the most low class human being to ever hold that office. The real fear is that George Bush actually does represent what America is today. - McGrunty, on 11/22/2007, -5/+14Enough hearing things like this and doing nothing. Enough of telling people the reality of this country and where it's headed while nothing happens. It's time, before the US goes the way of the Holy Roman Empire, we must march to the white house, and make some ***** happen. ~goes off and smokes another bowl.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/22/2007, -2/+10True - but you need that one person to stand up, and as you can clearly see and have seen, the philosophy of fear has fallen on America. The average person is either just a lazy tripe that doesn't deserve freedom - OR - has been so beaten down with fear and fear mongering that they are too afraid to be the first one to stand up - and so no one stands up.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/22/2007, -0/+8Thats what I was thinking..isn't this a good thing? If they lost their jobs over seas - wouldn't they just come back home? Isn't that what people said they wanted?
- xtragedy, on 11/22/2007, -1/+9You've come to a sad realization... Accept or deny?
- Gir53457, on 11/22/2007, -4/+12The difference between a Democrat and a Republican debating is that Dems like to talk through the issue, and expand the out come by asking questions to each other. A Republican already had his points and any discussions of the subject is unnecessary because they already know what they want.
- inactive, on 11/22/2007, -2/+10GOOD, fire all the army then, world will be a better place and more tax dollars spent on healthcare.
- williamdyer, on 11/22/2007, -1/+9Peace is more important. Congress should not back down.
- Leomarth, on 11/22/2007, -0/+8He'd use a signing statement to skate the intent.
- SavageBlackCat, on 11/22/2007, -1/+9And Pelosi gets on her knees again for Bush.
- Karmashock, on 11/22/2007, -1/+9Congress, democrat and republican has been stuffing the budget with pork for...ever. As much as they complain about the cost of the war most of them have seen to it that their state gets some money for it even though it might be more expensive or lower quality.
Military equipment that fails, hardware that no one needs, bases that have been redundant since WW2 yet remain operational... you name it. All bought and paid for so that one congressman or senator can say he brought jobs to his state.
Say what you will about bush, this is a clever threat. - Gir53457, on 11/22/2007, -1/+8Thats why I consider myself only a conservative and not a Republican.
- Brazoliange, on 11/22/2007, -2/+9I fully and totally agree with you.
- Gir53457, on 11/22/2007, -3/+10I'd rather be a fireman. At least when I die some one would be grateful for what I did.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/22/2007, -0/+7That has been my fear for a few years now.
- satx, on 11/22/2007, -3/+10You all talk about this like it's a bad thing. Of course, if any funding cuts have to be made they should be military-side but I don't see it as a problem cutting thousands of government employee positions that help to support our military-industrial empire.
- tidu, on 11/22/2007, -0/+7I'd rather die for my country's survival, not its expansion and dominance.
- weebit, on 11/22/2007, -4/+10Bush and Company had already told the public that he enough funds to last through March if he got no more funds approved. So why would he lay off peeps? He is such a lier.
- laughmore, on 11/22/2007, -2/+8The motivation behind my post above this one: http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by ...
- noremorse1, on 11/22/2007, -2/+8Let's hope so. I am slated to go do two weeks of training where it will be REALLY REALLY cold! If this keep's us out of the field, woo hoo!!
In all honesty, I do not care about that. I just hope that the Democrats actually see success with their current posturing. - natdowner, on 11/22/2007, -0/+5Ok, I'm from Canada so I don't know fully how it works down there, but can't you impeach Bush's ass or something?? like seriously, Clinton let some girl give him a BJ and America wouldn't stop til 'justice' was served for him... Yet Bush has wasted billions of dollars and thousands of lives for a war that NO ONE EVEN HAS A REASON FOR.... and he's still in office? I know its probably not the easiest thing to get a president out of office, but all I hear and read nowadays is how no one wants this war anymore and ever knows Bush is lying just to get what he wants.. but yet nothing ever seems to be done....
- Memitim, on 11/22/2007, -0/+5Exactly. Less people on the government payroll sounds pretty damned good to me.
- DblTap, on 11/22/2007, -0/+5Tell him to send a bill to Haliburton, They have made enough money from this war by gorging off the neck of America.
- maelstromwar, on 11/22/2007, -3/+7It's going to have to wait. Wouldn't want to disrupt congress's Thanksgiving vacation.
- nihilite, on 11/22/2007, -0/+4I dugg you both up - I am not for some of the politics of LeeSoong's post, but it is hard to deny the fact that our "volunteer army" is circling the drain. It does not seem like too much to ask to have able-bodied citizens trained to DEFEND the country. Let's turn the national guard into a *national guard*, instead of an invasion force, and i think we solve the problem right there.
I would enlist tomorrow to defend this country, but i would move to canada before being a regime changing tool for Bush. - Homerr, on 11/22/2007, -0/+4Commander in Chief needs to be laid off to help with this crisis.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/22/2007, -1/+5basically, because you and 300 million of your fellow Americans are allowing him.
- zanzzz, on 11/22/2007, -1/+5Well said, but enough about about his strong points.
- zanzzz, on 11/22/2007, -1/+5Bush is holding the troops hostage and everyone else so that he can run out the clock and not be the president to "lose" Iraq. In his mind it is important to fight on rather than heed the will of the people and will of Congress. History will not be kind to this disgraceful man. Clearly he has done more damage and undermined the security of the United States to a greater extent than the terror groups he uses as the excuse for his misguided actions.
- Hoodwink, on 11/22/2007, -4/+8This President is the biggest Piece of Sh*t that I have ever seen. WOW.....I hope to God we can get someone like Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich in office.
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