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- Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+73Nobody is _saying_ Clinton had a spotless record. Nobody is saying Gore had a spotless record. Clinton isn't in office right now, so why would we spend time bitching about him? That's a waste of time, don't you think?
Now, here's a man who is our _current_ President, who has consistently abused his powers to diminish the civil rights of our people, and you defend him making ad hominem attacks on the people who question his integrity. Obviously anyone who says, "It's Bush's fault I am out of gas" is of questionable ethic, so why bother listening to them?
A democrat may improve our standing with the world, maybe a republican will. I don't bloody care who they are, but if they're a good candidate, you're damn right I'll vote for them, regardless of which party they are in. Now, what you're trying to do is spread FUD, essentially. As I recall, FUD stands for "Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt." Microsoft is well known for spreading FUD about Open Source. You are trying to spread FUD about Democrats.
Here's the thing though, and I'm going to set you straight: Neither Democrats nor Republicans are the panacea. STOP THE PARTISAN *****. Seriously. Libertarians, Republicans, Green party, Democrats, everyone, just... sit down and look at the way the world is treating us. Look at the way our government is treating its people. Why are you guys spending all your time bitching at eachother, when the real problem is the political atmosphere that has perverted your true beliefs and caused you to spend more time getting angry at the other party than trying to solve problems. Government is about helping the people, it's a social contract (see: Locke,) and people on _both sides_ are spreading the same ***** all around.
It's time for some change: Stop being a partisan puppet. Learn to think for yourself and stop with the ad hominem attacks. When everyone starts thinking for themselves and reading between the lines, the sound bites, and the talking points, we'll all be better off. Simple truth: People like Bush don't deserve to be in office. That's not partisan, that's the truth. There are Democrats and Republicans I don't like, so stop playing the partisan bias card online. Nobody ***** cares anyways. - Dweller99, on 10/12/2007, -7/+67So you basically agree that Bush has been horrible for this country but your defense is "But Clinton did it too!"
is that about right? - joel2600, on 10/12/2007, -3/+58i thought bushed passed all the laws he needed to in order to justify his actions? guess he missed some.
- Alex2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45I love these political stories:
Dems: The Republicans broke the law!
Repubs: Clinton shagged an intern! - Aidenag, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39*Update* Theve also now posted the report mentioned. here is the link to all 26 pages:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/conyers-report/?resultpage=1&
Enjoy :)
- pjack91, on 10/12/2007, -3/+40Impeachment!?!
- UGM2099, on 10/12/2007, -4/+39"sigh. screw the USA there is no true americans here no more."
Would a true American not care that the executive branch isn't upholding the constitution? I believe that could be the most American thing there is, even more than exhibiting so-called American values. - daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37It would be nice if both sides in congress cared about the laws when their own side broke them.
The D's don't care if it is a D breaking the law, only if it's a R
The R's don't care if it is a R breaking the law, only if it's a D
Sad. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+36Hey, you can try and mod me down all you want, whoever's doing it.
That doesn't change the fact that he's still a lying pill-popper who's show is tuned into by millions of idiots every morning. :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38You mean that blubbering prescription drug addict that passes for a radio pundit?
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38Please feel free to post a list of the specific laws and statues you believe Clinton is guilty of breaking.
- muddo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+37I will not be happy until Bush and co. are indicted on charges of treason.
- Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29Some of his actions can't be legally justified by anything short of an amendment to the Constitution.
- drowningfish, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25"sigh. screw the USA there is no true americans here no more."
The Neo-Nationalism brewing in this Country is really starting to scare me. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25He lied to Congress and the UN about the "imminent threat" in Iraq. That is enough to impeach him.
But that's just the beginning. What about the no-bid contracts in Iraq? The corruption within Homeland Security? What about the Anthrax Letters? About the torture being committed by US troops and private military contractors like CACI and Titan Corp?
The spying he has been doing and the regulations he's broken are the LEAST of the crimes he's committed. What about the billions that have been stolen from US taxpayers? These mass-murdering corporate crooks must face justice! - jayarbee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Why on earth is there a warning posted stating that the content of the article may not be accurate? Of course it's accurate; it's reporting the fact of the action by the members of Congress making the accusations of Bush's law breaking. As to whether or not their charges are accurate, that is irrelevant as it pertains to the validity of the article. I mean, sure, it should be obvious to anyone who's awake that Bush has repeatedly broken laws, but that's not the point. The point is that these congresspersons did prepare a report stating their belief that the president *may* have broken more than two dozen laws. So what's with the accuracy warning?
- xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24My god!! What's the problem with you? It was stated by the opposition and you know that's their job. The fact that they are doing it *is* news!
Also real news isn't biased if it is factual and open for debate. They aren't saying "here is what you think" but "here are the facts, make up your own damn mind". - RaistlinMajere, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21You've described one of the serious drawbacks behind a two-party system. Each party is very concerned over its image, thus will downplay negative press and the like.
That being said, I believe that these allegations are true. - ZigZags, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Bush's Skull n Bones buddies will pull strings and he will get out of all charges unscathed... he'll be back at the ranch in no time. Well at least we have 2 more years of funny Bush clips to look forward to on The Daily Show.
- DrJoe916, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Your logic is as sloppy as your spelling and your grammar. The question is not what Clinton or Gore did, but what W is (and isn't) doing. If you want to be heard, speak to the issue. If you want people to respect your judgment, write clearly and support your accusations with evidence. (Slurs and rhetorical questions do NOT constitute evidence.) As presented, your position merits little respect, and that's what all the negative diggs reflect.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20That doesn't make these claims any less valid.
- MiloMindrbindr, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22amen to that.
- Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16That is exactly the mentality and thought that most people put into politics. This is what televised sports has done to this country.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17@jayarbee
It's because of these 'red state' neocon asswipes who still for some reason believe that Bush can do no wrong, and anyone who says anything bad about him is a liar, a traitor and supports the terrorists. There seem to be quite a few of them on digg. - Niffer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18That's a fallacy if I ever heard one. "They are only reporting Republican scandal! Why aren't they reporting the Democrat scandals that no one else is reporting!"
There isn't much to report on the other side. Kennedy drove drunk, McKinney (I think?) punched a guy. Whoop-de-*****, Bush has undermined every idea that this country was founded on. If you think that's not as important as Kennedy and McKinney they go watch some more Entertainment Tonight, we'll stick to the evening news. - Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15@UMG2099
No branch of the government is upholding the constitution. It isn't limited to the executive branch. - MiloMindrbindr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16@Shinta:
No kidding, this is only the stuff they let us know! Imagine what would happen if we were privy to their secretive practices. - eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Pwease?
- icebrk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Treason? How about betraying your country for Oil interest (foreign and domestic) in the process costing many thousands of lives (American and Foreign)
Bribery? See reasoning for above, (I really hope he doesn't believe that god wanted him to do this, I I'll take a corrupted leader any day over a fanatical one)
Misdemeanor? Talking with his mouth full at diplomatic dinner. Giving an uninvited back-rub to Chancellor Merckel at a G8 summit. Talking about pigs instead of a major crisis he's partly responsible for. 5 years of doing his best to take advantage of a inexplicably tragic attack to pass laws and perform atrocities around the world and all around act against American interests (government serves the people, not the other way around, remember?)
Him and his cabinet outright lying about WMDs, Leaks, Surveillance programs, Katrina, and what I'm sure are 100s of other things they haven't gotten busted on yet.
Spying on the citizens of the country before and after lying about it repeatedly, passing a series of laws, and creating a culture of fear with the goal of creating a police state and bolstering the Military Industrial Complex.
Impeaching him will be nice as it'll show to the world that Americans are starting to get the picture on what their government is doing to the world (and themselves) and maybe leave a mark in the books that administrations operated in the secrecy, lack of accountability, and corporate/fanatic sponsored policy should be avoided.
Personally, I think the message wont be strong enough til he gets outright thrown out of office or is forced to resign. The democrats can pull the 1st one off alone and the 2nd would require the republicans to start being republicans again. Not holding my breath on either happening. - deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18Come on, don't you know Bill Clinton shot Vince Foster? It's a fact. Rush said so.
- decide, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"You people don't know what a corrupt US goverment is."
If it isn't what we're living in right now, and what we've possibly been living in for decades, then what exactly _is_ a corrupt US government? What's sad is this feels like just the beginning of what we may be seeing soon in Washington... - frostedflakes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@Shinta
That is because there are too many violations to list. - danakin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11All this partisan arguing leads to one logical solution:
Jedi Party in '08! - UGM2099, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14"Come on, don't you know Bill Clinton shot Vince Foster? It's a fact. Rush said so."
He also had some kids run over by a train. I saw it on VHS. - pwhalen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Kerry was one of his Skull and Bones buddies
- Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Yeah, that's the way politics should work in the US. You conservatives impeached our guy so we're going to do it to you.
I think the majority of the US would be so much more politically active and informed if we switched from reading, understanding, and voting to a game involving a ball of some kind, some clever beer ads, half-naked girls dancing around, and a timer on the wall.
People could start typing "FTW" after all their political comments too. Yeah, that would be great. Wait a second... - CanPanther, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Are Americans finally waking up to what the rest of the world has known for years? Funny how it's taken the loss of THEIR OWN FREEDOM to finally demonstrate just what a group of power-hungry, war-mongering meglomaniacs Bush and the Republicians really are. It's sad really. But as long as it was happening elsewhere and not to them, then I guess it was ok for most Americans. Welcome to OUR world, *****!
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9[quote]Whether or not Bush is guilty of anything, this ***** sure is getting old.[/quote]
And I'm sure as a Republican you wish it would go away.
Your Fox News talking points don't work here on us. Do you think we give a *****?
Watch what happens in November. That is, if Diebold doesn't rig the election in key states again. - berfmurret, on 10/12/2007, -12/+20barack obama for pres '08!!!
actually he has already said he isnt interested. but he would make one hell of a left candidate. - icebrk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Although knowing the dems have finally found some balls to stand up to the Bush administration (maybe they've they finally pulled their heads out of the sand) and that they're doing something about it is great I'd mod it up twice for making me realize something that should've been obvious. If the dems take the house it's actually possible 12-18 months from now the white house will be Bush free. Vote Democrat! Impeach Bush!
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8[quote]now after this, does anyone believe in the 9/11 conspiracies anymore?[/quote]
I don't believe Bush was behind 9/11. I think negligence and arrogance is responsible for that. But I do believe that someone within the US government IS responsible for the Anthrax letters.
Probably not Bush himself, but someone with ties to the pharmaceutical companies.
You know, they made a fortune off selling Anthrax vaccines after the attacks. And "coincidentally," it helped justify the Iraq war and the passing of the Patriot Act.
If you disagree, tell me, who sent the Anthrax Letters? - Ghiren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yes please, but don't take it any further than that. Remember who's next in line if we kick Bush out of office.
- jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Marked inaccurate because....???????
- Shinta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Whig Party.
- MiloMindrbindr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7and one more thing. If you know anyone or have been in the military, youre given orders that make absolutely no sense to you because goals are broken up into Departments who know nothing about what anyone else is doing. Makes it very hard to connect dots.
- cyborg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8now after this, does anyone believe in the 9/11 conspiracies anymore?......bush and his cabinent shouldn't just be taken down for treason, but for the same charges as saddam was brought down for.
- icebrk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I don't think they deserve to be executed, I don't believe in executions. What would be some great ironic justice would be getting Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, and all the other neo cons / religious fanatics behind this strapped up in some US Army Standard Issue and dropped off in the middle of some Iraqi village along with a bunch of UAVs mounted with high quality & zoom cameras.
I'm no fan of reality TV but this out on Blu-Ray would be the first good reason I could imagine for buying a PS3. - corevette, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Triple Pwease, and a democrat on top
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11For Bush, it's "violating statutes". For us, it's breaking the law. It's good to be the king!
- amirjpl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7impeach his ***** ass
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