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- goes211, on 03/26/2009, -8/+95This guy is brilliant! I spend a lot of time in the UK and he is far to sensible for the European masses to accept.
- 1elbuggo, on 03/26/2009, -10/+88Ron Paul, John Galt and Daniel Hannan - dream team?
- libertygal76, on 03/26/2009, -8/+83There's a foreigner I'd like to keep!
- naderventura, on 03/26/2009, -9/+79dugg for freedom!!
- sheeplescareme, on 03/26/2009, -7/+76if you liked that vid, check this one out - he grills brown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XWeRWY2Uw4 - uHaveASmallDigg, on 03/26/2009, -8/+55A lot of buzz about this guy. Great speech to Gordon Brown ^^^
- Lawofnations, on 03/26/2009, -11/+52"The primary cause of the American Revolution was control of the monetary system of the colonies." - Benjamin Franklin
Franklin, a notorious Mason and member of the British Accreditation Registry (BAR), went to France and borrowed silver from the Bank of England on behalf of the United States before hostilities ended with England. This made the U.S. a debtor nation. Under the Laws of War a debtor nation is not the victor. As Cornwallis surrendered his sword to Mason George Washington he stated "You may have won the battle, but England still won the war." On the Treaty of Paris the title of King George was "Treasurer of the United States". The American BAR headquarters in Chicago is owned by the Queen of England. Obama is a member of the BAR, CFR and of course the Bilderburgers. The City of London, District of Columbia, and the Vatican are all working for the same goal on behalf of their masters at the IMF and World Bank: to keep the Americans in debtor status/enslavement. The national debt is currently over 58 trillion.
Ever notice it's always the Brits and the Yanks who meddle in the affairs of the resource-rich nations? - robehren, on 03/26/2009, -5/+43Its a shame when the countries already on the road we want to take are saying "don't do it" and our leaders push onward as if they haven't heard a thing.
- Plower, on 03/27/2009, -13/+44We can only hope for a world that would have Ron Paul in 2012...
- kolobcreek, on 03/27/2009, -6/+36Finally someone to compare extreme spending to fascism.
- lilamae, on 03/27/2009, -9/+37Obama's new mantra for America: Never lose an opportunity to fail.
- nofreedom4theUS, on 03/26/2009, -6/+32LMAO...lookout guys! This nolib guy is HILARIOUS! I see him making lame, uneducated comments all over digg.
If you want a good laugh, go to
http://www.neaveru.com/digg/index.html
type in "nolibertarians", grab some popcorn and get ready for some laughs. Check the amount of negative he gets and read his messages. F'n HYSTERICAL! - BrapAllgood, on 03/26/2009, -2/+24"Who is John Galt?"
- jsffive, on 03/27/2009, -3/+22The gentleman made a very good point about one thing, any kind of "bank reform" would, in fact, end up being written by the bankers themselves, and they definitely have a direct conflict of interest.
As much as the Keith Olbermann's of this world bloviate about "busting the trusts", the truth is, the last time such a thing was attempted, the result was the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, written in 1910... BY the very people that the "reform" was meant to curtail. - deema1, on 03/27/2009, -6/+24This guy Daniel Hannan is equally as fantastic as Ron Paul.
- naderventura, on 03/27/2009, -9/+26dugg for freedom!!
- Amadeus2490, on 03/27/2009, -4/+20I actually enjoy listening to what Danial Hannan has to say, because he speaks in a very slow and controlled matter without sounding completely boring. It was frustrating to listen to that reporter stammer and yell over top of him; It seemed like he had absolutely no idea what he was talking about.
- RonPauls, on 03/27/2009, -2/+15despite the fact that Ron Paul basically predicted this (along with the entire Austrian school of economics) and knows the cure?
- Frnnkdlxx, on 03/27/2009, -8/+20Love Ron Paul, Read the whole Atlas Shrugged book, no small feat, and to be honest, I hated it. Completely insane and sorta the opposite of what we know to be true. Only thing I liked was Francisco D'Anconia's eviscerating pro liberty/monetary freedom/fiscal outlook diatribe that went on for about 10 pages. I ate that up. The whole John Galt thing was a bit too fanciful to me. Sort of a cop out. Us Alex Jones types aren't running to leave you idiots to your own deaths. We're here for the long term. Because we still love Humanity.
And yeah, NoLibertarians is a joke, a part of the Bury Brigade and has multiple accounts or is a part of Digg's anti-truth crusade. I don't like to delve into things I can't prove, so i'll just assume he has multiple accounts and diggs up and buries at his pleasure. - inactive, on 03/27/2009, -7/+19This site, containing much false information, has already been thoroughly refuted:
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libertarian/response ... - inactive, on 03/27/2009, -10/+22Economics is not science, nor can it be because it depends on the decisions of people.
Austrian economoics have proven to be able to predict future economic trends reliably where Keynesian economics fails utterly at prediction. If you cannot predict the future using today's data, then your economic system is useless.
All of our "social sciences" are useless because they have to fudge data and methods all the time. They are not true sciences, they do not and cannot use verifiable, quantitative data, although they pretend to.
A thourough reading of history (no pretense of science) will inform you much more about political reality than will a doctorate in political science.
Learning five or six languages well will teach you more about language than linguistics every can
Common sense and historic observation will teach you MUCH more about economic realitiies than a bunch of ***** complexequations that impart nothing of value.
Go back to the drawing board amigo - inactive, on 03/27/2009, -13/+24Hannan....u were a nobody last week. now you have hero status. welcome to the good fight.
ron paul 2012 - joshmoney, on 03/27/2009, -4/+15"I hate seeing so many people trap themselves in the horrible economic fallacies of Ron Paul."
You mean the horrible fallacy of stating that a government should not waste billionss of dollars with money that isn't theirs? OR, were you referring to his doctrine of personal responsibility that you shouldn't spend money on something you can't afford? Come to think of it, its those two things that are precisely the reason we have an economic crisis to begin with. I don't care what school of economics you're from, if any entity spends more money than it makes then someone has to end up paying for it in the end. Guess who gets to pay for it? - icantdenythis, on 03/27/2009, -2/+11Maybe this sounds stupid, but what is a PEM? I google'd it and found myself unable to find an answer.
- cambob76, on 03/27/2009, -1/+10http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_the_Europea ...
- RonPauls, on 03/27/2009, -3/+11I am going to respond to your criticisms:
1. dept of education - totally unnecessary. First of all, it's unconstitutional flat out - read the thing. It's also immoral because it has to be funded by confiscation. Thirdly, education is best left as a private endeavor - kids got a better education when there weren't public schools (check historical literacy rates or see graphs of money spent of kids vs. test scores over last 40 years). Fourth, even if public schools exist, a massive bureacracy is incredibly innefficient and wasteful and leaves little control for the people closest to students. Fifth, government control of education makes sure that kids get taught history that is essential pro-government, extremely liberal, and glorifies leaders who fought wars, expanded government, etc.
http://mises.org/story/2150 for more.
2. abortion - RP would leave it to the states - it doesn't matter what he actually thinks. States would likely decide differently, and people could live where they want. This is the constitutional position.
3. IRS - we didn't have an IRS until 1913 when the federal reserve and income tax were created. The US grew much faster between 1700-1913 than afterwards. Eliminating income tax would cut necessitate a reduction in spending to year 2000 levels - even back then, government was an albatross.
4. Ron Paul supporters - when you truly understand liberty, you have an obligation to spread freedom. Hence, there is much enthusiasm among the liberty crowd. In 1770s they fought a war for freedom - fervently posting on the internet is truly the least we can do now.
But my biggest criticism is this: how can you justify confiscating the property (money) of another person to pay for whatever you want? If the governments rights come from the people (we the people...), then how does government have confiscatory rights (and other rights....) that the people do not have?
You seem to be an open mind/free independent spirit. Try listening to Free Talk Live (freetalklive.com, free podcasts at the site) for a couple days. - Cdizzl3, on 03/27/2009, -2/+10This guy is a pro.
- isfan, on 03/27/2009, -3/+11wtf is a PEM,
isn't it MEP= Member of European Parliament - jgubbe, on 03/27/2009, -2/+10Ron Paul 2012.
- cmcagle, on 03/27/2009, -4/+11Caferrell is absolutely right. The social sciences (political science, economics, sociology) are most emphatically NOT science in the sense that physics, chemistry or biology are sciences. The social sciences are based upon deliberate human action, which does not work according to simple, predictable models in the way that hard sciences do.
As for how our economy operated before we had the Fed; yes there were booms and busts, but notice that it wasn't until after the creation of the Fed that we had the Great Depression. Weimar Germany (or modern Zimbabwe) could not have had hyperinflation without central banking and modern, "scientific" economic models. Our modern "scientific" models (Keynesianism specifically) showed that you could not simultaneously have both high inflation and high unemployment, and yet the 1970s gave us stagflation. Our modern "scientific" models (specifically monetarism) were what Greenspan relied upon when he kept interest rates below 2% for so long in the late 1990s. This caused a bubble first in technology, and then in housing. We see where that got us.
Social scientists need to get over the inferiority complex they seem to have with their hard-science cousins and realize that positivism might be appropriate for the study of inert matter, but it does not apply to deliberative action. - inactive, on 03/27/2009, -10/+17Let's see if I understand this. There's a British politician who actually thinks logically????
- Vigrant, on 03/27/2009, -2/+9Hannity IMO
- SirVizor, on 03/27/2009, -3/+9If Ron Paul was just an internet meme, then why would someone like Daniel Hannan mention Ron Paul's name in an interview with Fox?
- cslawren, on 03/27/2009, -1/+7I was going to say, its supposed to be MEP.
- Barackalypse, on 03/27/2009, -2/+8He's not an isolationist, he's a non-interventionist, that means he wishes to trade with everyone and avoid entangling alliances and gallivanting around the globe inserting our military places where it doesn't belong. As far as getting rid of Government agencies, when those agencies are useless, its not only practical, its downright sensible.
You mention the Department of Education, did you know they didn't even exist until 1979? Are our children better educated today than they were before 1979? The tests results certainly don't think so. The IRS didn't exist until 1862 and yet by the time the United States was one of the most prosperous nations on Earth. SImply put, most of what the Government does isn't needed. - eaglesrp2012, on 03/27/2009, -2/+8he actually said in other interviews that if the listeners can take away one thing from him it would be to reject universal healthcare...he said this is one of the reasons the UK is in worse shape going into this then the US
- foontala, on 03/27/2009, -0/+6C'mon, you know what the difference between a policy of "peace and commerce with all nations" (which is NOT isolationist) and a policy that sends more troops to the Middle East to blow up bridges that we pay to build and blow up again, don't you? Don't you know the difference between isolation and peace with trade?
I'll also point out to you that "dumbification" is relative to what you believe. Furthermore, states, communities, and families should control education, not some federal bureaucrat who falsely thinks that they have more moral and educational sense and fortitude than every other American.
I didn't digg you down because you used tired arguments that have been refuted over and over, or because I'm some sort of Internet memebot. Rather, I dugg you down because you reduced your pathetic attempt at an argument to a ridiculous homily which arrogantly generalized millions of people. - MooseOfReason, on 03/27/2009, -3/+8TheTaoOfBill, What keynesian predicted the housing bubble and the looming credit crisis?
I want proof. If keynesians know what effects certain actions will have on the economy, they should have had no difficulty in predicting in great detail the current crisis.
Austrian economists knew it was coming. Check out this article from August, 2003:
http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=45 ...
Give me something like that. A video. An article. Something proving keynesians know what the hell they're talking about. - BotchaMcCoola, on 03/27/2009, -2/+7Better lay off the meth and catch up with the mobile home payments.
- cmcagle, on 03/27/2009, -2/+7Bill,
"We know Keynesian is perfect for major recessions like today."
No, we don't. The basic Keynesian formula [Y = C+I+G+N(x)] calls for increased government spending (G) whenever consumer spending (C) or business investments (I) fall below their "normal" level. We tried this during the Great Depression, and it was a dismal failure. The economy didn't fully recover until after WWII, when the gov't decreased spending. Not incidentally, Keynesians predicted that the decrease in G would lead to massive recession in 1945-1946. In fact, those were the best years since 1929. Keynesians were wrong then, and they're wrong now.
"we know Austrian economics is a joke"
Yes, such a joke that the Austrian school is the only school of economic thought to actually foresee our current economic crisis. You can't just rely on ipse dixit here. If you want to convince anyone that the Austrian school is a joke, you're going to need to actually make an argument.
My point still remains about the business cycle prior to the Fed. I never claimed that there were no recessions pre-1913 (In fact, I specifically said there were booms and busts). However, the magnitude of the booms and busts of the 19th century wasn't even comparable to the Fed-generated business cycle of the 20th century. Without a central bank keeping interest rates artificially low (or high), economic malinvestment tends to be regional, comparatively mild and quickly resolved. To get nation-wide, steep and prolonged booms and busts takes a central bank sending the wrong signals to an entire economy. - inactive, on 03/27/2009, -10/+14Let's see if I understand this. There's a British politician who actually thinks logically????
- inactive, on 03/27/2009, -2/+6NoLibertarians, I am not a Ron Paul support in any way, but he is far more qualified than the Idiot in Chief we have in office right now.
- MooseOfReason, on 03/27/2009, -4/+8People should only go into debt if they know they can pay back the money. The government can't pay the money back, because it's broke, and the only way they can pay for things is if the Federal Reserve increases the money supply, which lowers the value of the currency.
You're being misleading when you say "mainstream economists". Keynesian economists.
History has proven? Alright, cite a specific recession that proves that statement. - royalecraig, on 05/02/2009, -0/+4If you are wondering why Ron Paul is not President of the US, here is Why :-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iW5kOB1pmg
Here is Who REALLY Rules the West.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&eur ... - MooseOfReason, on 03/27/2009, -6/+10*hardly.
And Tao, I doubt you even supported Paul. You're just saying that so more people might consider reading the rest of your comment.
PS - hurling insults at the beginning of your comment - or anywhere else - isn't a good marketing strategy. - inactive, on 03/27/2009, -1/+4oh Moose...your corrections are well received :)
Thank you for keepin me on the straight and narrow. - uHaveASmallDigg, on 03/27/2009, -1/+4Here's a link to just Hannan's part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqzMziGop-w
Digg it if you dig:
http://digg.com/world_news/MEP_Bend_over_Gordon_Br ... - inactive, on 03/27/2009, -4/+7Polymer Electrolyte Membrane (PEM)
- MooseOfReason, on 03/27/2009, -2/+5mrshickadance9, First, please read this article from August, 2003, about the looming housing bubble:
http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=45 ...
Second, wouldn't someone who has also warned that our Federal government's economic ineptitude would someday lead to disaster, have credibility on how to fix it once the ***** hit the fan? - zeropoint51, on 03/27/2009, -3/+6Well it is just a guess, but he is probably a lot smarter and more successful than you. So his opinion is in some way more valuable than yours.
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